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Now here's something we hope you really
like. You're listening to creating daily,
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there's something wrong with you. You
know that, because you and I are
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like a mullet is the is the
business. So he's the front part of
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the haircut and then I'm the party
in the back. I think they're hilarious.
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Speaks to me. It's like he's
saying what I'm thinking. All right,
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what's up, everybody? Welcome to
another episode of creating daily. My
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name is Billy Thorpe. I'm your
host and all the time rushing around doing
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all kinds of crazy stuff right before
the show. But welcome to the PODCAST.
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We've never been here before, then
thanks for coming. If you've been
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here, thanks for coming back.
I don't know why you're back, but
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you're here. So we're gonna have
a lot of fun and once again this
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show is all about bringing on other
creators to talk about the Creator Journey.
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So today I'm going to be joined
here in a few minutes by my friend,
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Ryan Sullivan, my new friend.
We literally just met moments ago.
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He is a podcaster, podcast producer
and was on the verge of quitting and
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then made a little turn around.
So I want to talk about that perseverance
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as a content creator, because there's
a lot of stuff we're doing and and
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I think it's good to get a
perspective from somebody who, like him,
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like myself, who've wanted to quit
price several times, maybe even several times
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this week, but we haven't.
So we want to share some of their
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strategies of how we overcome, you
know, all those things that make you
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want to quit. But before we
do, as you know, we got
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some highlights, creator highlights. New
Cooking necessary and new assembly required. It's
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got to be fun, all right, it's going to be Funky, and
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And then our creator highlight today is
my friend Manny Cobo. Now, some
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of you've made seen him on the
voice. He is award winning music photographer.
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I mean literally, this guy's like
the definition of Creator. He's a
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photographer, live streamer, podcaster,
Youtuber, I mean he is doing everything
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and he's had one heck of a
year. Last year a storm came through
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up in New Jersey. Why?
I mean completely wiped him out, flooded
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his house, flooded his recording studio, podcast studio, all the camera gear,
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all that kind of stuff. And
I sit there, I watched it,
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you know, one phone calls from
him and just keep me in the
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loop. And then also just kind
of saw it go down on instagram and
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and just watched him his whole house, basically ruined, his studio, all
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this stuff. But yet he re
you know, got back on his feet
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again start rebuilding it and literally did
it with a smile on his face.
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I couldn't believe it. He's easily
one of the nicest guys I've ever met
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and just persevered and talk about a
creator not wanting to quit. Many of
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us would have thrown into the towel, but he made it through there.
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So one to give him a shout
out. So be sure once you gotta
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go to the slide. If you're
watching many Cobbo, the many Cobbo on
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Instagram, go follow him. You
can go check out all the stuff he's
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doing. He's doing a lot of
stuff. Super Multihy Creator, so we
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appreciate him always being a blessing to
the community. So it's always awesome.
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All right. Now let's get into
a little bit of podcasting news. That's
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news to me creating daily. All
Right, I get my podcast news from
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Pod News. I think you pod
news. If you guys don't follow them,
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be sure to do that and follow
their podcast. But they announced yesterday
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that a company called PR X,
which is one of the world's leading podcast
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publishing companies, announced that they're going
to the partner with google to do this
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Google podcast creator program so it's basically
like a podcast accelerator for audio producers all
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around the world and Applications Open on
March twenty nine. So if you want
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to be a part of that and
they close on April twenty four, and
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some of the things that are included, or twenty weeks of intensive training,
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which is pretty crazy. Throughout the
training program teams will be guided through Pitch
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Prep, you know, pitch decks, production, marketing, monetization, audio,
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all those fun things, and that
the end of the program they're going
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to have like a I don't know
what you call it, like a showcase,
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I guess, a showcase of the
work they're going to get up up
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to Twentyzero funding for production costs,
as well Travel Rey embursements, oneone coaching,
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all the kind of stuff, and
then also access to like a network
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of other content creators and podcasters and
that kind of thing. So pretty cool.
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If you're going to go sign up
for that. I would just say
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go readefine details. I know a
lot of friends of mine have went to
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competition style things and didn't sign the
contract because of what was in the contracts.
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Make sure you just double check that
and protect yourself as a creator.
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And I conspiracy theorist, but there's
big companies doing these things for a reason.
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Maybe they're trying to get your ideas. All right, put on your
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Ti'm going to put my tin hat
back in the box now and invite my
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friend Ryan Sullivan on the show and
let's get into this podcast. Man,
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what's going on, Ryan? How
are you? Man? Hey, I'm
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good, man, doing well.
How are you? Man? I'm doing
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good. I am better. decided
to be here brother podcast. Yeah,
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man, I'm doing good. I'm
better now that that we're here, that
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we're recording, and I think you
and I both talked about it before the
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show. Maybe both of US struggle
with a little bit Internet problems. So
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hopefully this thing will stay together.
He got to keep the faith, man.
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That's really you know, there's a
few, there's a lot of things
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you can't control, and I talked
about that a lot when I, you
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know, in my coaching programs with
people and helping them start podcasts, you
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know, and it's like what can
we control, you know. So that's
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one of those things. It is
what it is. I Lost I lost
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my audio the other day after my
power went out while I was recording a
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live podcast. So you know,
I've everything has happened. That could happen
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right, so probably to you too. Yeah, to yeah, if it's
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going to happen, especially if it
involves the Internet, that's always like.
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That's like my cryptonied or whatever.
So well, man, appreciate you coming
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on here in a definitely want to
talk about persevering through the creative process and
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being a podcaster. But before we
jump into it, man, you do
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have a company called podcast principles.
Are you guys are helping launch people,
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you know, but podcast. So
tell me a little bit about that before
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we jump into how you got there. Yeah, sure, yeah, so
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I'm the founder of podcast principles.
We help people launched podcast, primarily without
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wasting time. That is the my
number one goal, because I spent four
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years, you know, developing my
podcast, stopping starting again. We'll go
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into the story of that. But
really what we do is create a systematize
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process to launch your podcast, and
I think a lot of you know really
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the main question we get is like
how do I do it? Should I
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do it? As my idea good
enough for people going to listen to it,
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etc. So we just developed a
system to do that over the course
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of five calls in the beginning,
and then we also do production for people's
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podcast as well if that's something that
they need. But all in all it's
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a it's a onestop shop podcast launch
system for personal brands we've worked with companies
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and businesses before, but it's mostly, you know, so launentrepreneurs, solo
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creators that want to have a system
of ties and kind of coherent way to
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start their podcast without any of the
BS of searching thousands of hours on Google
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and and Youtube. Man, I
love it anytime you can cut the learning
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curve down for somebody like that's value
in itself, so that the fact that
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you guys are not only going to
do that help them get started, get
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all their ideas together, put it
out there, but then manage it form
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as well or have that option.
It's pretty cool. So, man,
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you share a little bit of your
story with me, and part of that
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story is that you were a mechanic
who went podcast. Right. Hopefully I
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didn't lose you here, but so
tell me. How how the world did
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you go from mechanic to to podcaster
to podcast producer? Yeah, well,
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I'll start. You know where it
started. So in my senior year of
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high school I decided to quit sports
and so I could work and I've realized
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like the value and learning a skill. Luckily I realized that early on and
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my dad had like had side jobs
all throughout. You know, my childhood.
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I was always helping him and he
was basically all just working, you
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know, all the time, and
and whether it was his day job or
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on the side. So I feel
like I kind of picked up that hustle
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and I wasn't a super competitive person. Almost just like the Camaraderie of sports,
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but I didn't really it's not I
wasn't terrible at them, but I
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didn't like really excel at them to
the point where I really like loved it.
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So I think I just got to
the point where I was just fed
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up with coaches telling me what to
do and I figured I'm just going to
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go work and get a job.
So I always liked cars. I ended
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up going to a what was called
Polytech, like a votex school, so
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half of my day and in high
school was that and then the other half
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was just regular school. And at
the same time I found I brought my
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car to a shop and I walked
in and they were like Hey, do
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you want a job? Like I'm
leaving like this kid that I had played
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basketball with like twelve years earlier and
a dude I knew nothing about. Like
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I loved cars, like I had
a passion for cars. My whole life,
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but I knew nothing about fixing them. So I ended up just taking
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that job and I ended up being
a mechanic full time and part time to
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at two different shops over the next
like three and a half, four years
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while I was in college. So
that was kind of the start of the
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mechanic thing. I mean, I
could keep going into the how I got
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into podcasting as well, but that
was the mechanic portion. Yeah, man,
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no, dude, no, I
want to. I want to get
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into that because I know you.
You left that mechanic job, you're into
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podcasting. So, yeah, lead
me into how did you will get you
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interested in podcasting? Why did you
even get into the industry, like as
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a podcaster? Did you go podcaster
first or podcast producer? So I was
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a podcaster first, and so what
I'm actually also rapper, and that's what
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this other logo is there too.
been releasing music for like five years now.
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And and so I had been in
the audio world and like the music
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world, and I always just thought
a podcast was a cool idea. I
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was a massive Joe Rogan fan from
like two thousand and fourteen on. Just
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love the medium, love the style
of longform conversation and just figured hey,
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might as well start. A few
of my friends were like hey, man,
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like we'd listened to it. So
if I had a few people to
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listen to it, that was enough
for me to get started. I bought
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this Webcam, I bought a USB
microphone and I just got started. I
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did two episodes by myself and what
I would do is I had instant instagram
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series every Monday called Monday thoughts,
and I would say a minute to describe
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a certain concept, whether it was
decisionmaking or self improvement or whatever it was,
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and so I really use the podcast
to just expand on those concepts and
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the first couple episodes got like hundreds
of yews. I thought they were going
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to get tens of us. So
at that point I said, all right,
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this is something I might as well
keep going. I met somebody who
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made six figures on the stock market
when they were twenty one years old.
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Immediately that day I turned it into
an interview show and I bought another microphone
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and now I've been interviewing people since
two thousand and eighteen. So you know,
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I changed the name, I rebranded
it in the first in the first
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year as well. So yeah,
man, it was kind of that's kind
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of how I got into podcasting.
I just randomly started and then I had
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been producing my own music on the
side because I couldn't afford to buy music
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to use for my wraps. So
producing music led me to mixing audio and
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I had a really yeah, yeah, so that's kind of how I got
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into audio. So I had two
great mentors. Add One mentor from music.
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His name's beach links. He's work
with Ditty, he's work with Action
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Bronson. He had a really pretty
prominent rap group here in the Phili area.
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So DMD in one day he allowed
me to come in the studio pay
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for studio time and he was like
my music mentor. Then I got hooked
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up with a music studio later on
and that was my audio engineering mentor.
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So I in turned there for free
creating content. I said Hey, man,
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let me shoot videos on your on
my phone, I'll edit them and
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then you just let me sit there
and ask you questions. So I had
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those two mentors, one for music
and one for audio engineering, and then
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I took that audio and engineering knowledge
and I basically just started applying for for
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podcast jobs and it's kind of funny
how I got my first, you know,
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podcast audio editing job, after after
interning that studio. Man, but
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I was just I was living off
of savings and I had I remember I
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had six hundred bucks, I think, in my back account was like the
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was like when I got, when
I got my first freelance job. It
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took me three months to make eighty
dollars. It's awesome, man. So
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it's okay. So this dive into
that because my wife and I were my
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wife really she's a graphic designer.
So same thing. So it's been in
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freelance space for really, really long
time, kind of fighting uphill battle against
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idiot graphic designers who don't do it
they say they're going to do. But
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let's talk about that for a second
because it might be people listening who were
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like, Oh, I'm a podcaster, but I want to produce. I
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love that part of you, know, editing and sitting back and help,
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you know, helping people do this. Where did you go? Did you
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go like to like fiver or like
where did you go to find that first
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job? I had somebody on my
podcast named Tory grant and you can look
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him up now. You're actually a
really good skateboarder and he I had him
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on my podcast. He was recommended
by a friend of a friend and you
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know, he came on the podcast
and he talked about using up work to
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yeah, basically quit his job.
Right. So I'm like Hell Yeah,
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Dude, I'm gonna try this,
like, let's try it, let's see
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what happens. Right. So I
got on UPWORK. Like I said,
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three months go by. Man,
on my third month, somebody paid me
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eighty dollars, wasn't even editing,
to do a voiceover for a drone video
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of a covered bridge in California,
and that video is still up. That
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was my first free lance job ever. You could not make this shit up,
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man. That's perfect. Man.
I love that story, Dude,
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I love that story. So I
guess it. But probably for you at
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that moment as like an entrepreneur,
as a creator, you're by like,
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dude, this is awesome, man. I'm like, that's what I'm just
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saying. Like some people, and
and I could get into it, but
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my first to podcast on paper like
failed, like the first two podcasts that
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I did for like companies like Ye, after that little eighty dollar job,
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they, like on paper failed and
like think about a dude, three months
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in I make eighty bucks. Like
my my dad's like, are you going
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to go work at the shop again, like what's going on? Like he
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didn't know what I was doing.
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pasting up work messages and just hitting
people up and, you know, it
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just and this was before I was
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there too, and I just didn't
I had no idea what to do.
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Dude. I just took with this
guy said. He sent me his scripts.
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I edited the scripts with my name
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out messages. But my first podcast
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because I was on upwork. I
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I'm like, you know, I'm
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And I found a company who needed
a podcast producer. So what I did
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was, luckily the company, they
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AD, which is a pretty that's
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because they don't want to get spam. They don't want get spam with people
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on UPWORK. So but for some
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Right. So I'm like all right, dope, so let me.
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I went to the company website and
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that discovery call is for like companies
who want marketing, because this was a
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marketing company. So I just typed
in my youtube channel. I'm like I
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have two hundred thousand views. I'm
making like I don't know, I might
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have probably made everything else up,
but I just acted like I was a
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business. I get on the call
with the guy and he was like yeah,
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man, like I don't know why
I'm talking to you, but like
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I like the hustle, so why
don't you come in to the city interview?
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And then from there I ended up
doing a whole podcast for them and
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producing. I literally ended up like
editing audio, video, show notes,
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booking guests, Seo, writing blog
post. Yeah, man. So then
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that's turned into a part time and
then at one point of full time roll
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just because I ended up calling that
CEO and getting on zoom. That was
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the first time I use zoom.
So Do I love that? Man.
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I love that Hustle. I love
using that little hack of like yeah,
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I'll do discovery call. Now let's
talk about something. No, Hey,
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man, this is actually what I
want to talk to you about. I'm
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actually not a business. I'm actually
twenty one years old and have no idea
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what I'm doing. But like,
hear me out, you know, did
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you get me nervous now? I
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show? Why is see? How
my show? What's he doing? is
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He really who he says he is? What's happening? Yeah, man,
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I'm trying to do you need some
editing. I actually have some pointers for
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you on here to pitch me.
I okay, that's awesome. Well,
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maybe. So you said those first
two failed. So was that was the
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first one. So how did it? How did the quote unquote fail?
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Like what was a failure on paper, I guess. Yeah, I mean
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it was not a failure to me
at all, like I learned so much
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by working for this company, but
it was a failure on paper in the
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way that like, like they gave
me the idea for the PODCAST, right.
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So they were like, we're going
to have people on the podcast who
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invest in companies that we want to
work with. We're going to have the
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VC's on the podcast. Then we're
going to go to the VC's and ask
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them for an introduction to these companies
that we want to work with. That
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wasn't my strategy, right. So
that was their strategy. So I came
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in and just fulfilled basically the production, that editing, the messaging and the
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interviewing. I was the host to
and so, you know, in that
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was a success. Like I full
I did what I was supposed to do.
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on sales because they realize like obviously
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I could like talk to people and
like explain things or whatever. So they
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ended up put me on sales and
the podcasters went in the backburn all right,
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yeah, so, yeah, man, and then they the end of
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the day they're like where's the podcast? I'm like, Dude, I'm doing,
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like I'm maxed out, twelve hours
a day, like trying to do
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discovery calls and you're not even selling. Like I'm doing these discovery calls,
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getting them in the door and you're
not even closing. And then you're like
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where's the podcast? You know that, you know you were supposed to lead,
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you know. So, yeah,
that was I would never trade it
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for anything, but at the end
of the day the podcast didn't continue.
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They took me off of it.
I mean the company went bankrupt. They'd
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never even knowed anybody like it was
terrible. It was a kind of a
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hope they're doing better now, but
yeah, that was bad. That was
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overall, like a bat, like
a I guess I negative experience, like
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I said, on paper, sure, but for me I just learned everything
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I possibly could and then just got
the hell out of there. You know,
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yeah, that's crazy, man.
Well, it's good for you to
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learn, you know, and I
did that to man. I would work
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for nonprofit for like almost a decade
and learn like a ton of stuff.
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I mean some stuff I wanted to
learn, some stuff I didn't, but
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I just learned a bond of stuff
about media and I've always been curious about
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it. But you know, that
is that is good that you look at
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then said, okay, I'm going
to learn someone, because I think a
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lot of times, man, we're
creators, were career minded people. We
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get into something and it doesn't work
out and then we're just like we take
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all the bad stuff with us and
we don't remember all the good things that
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came out that experience. You know, like Oh, I learned how to
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edit, I learned how to produce
and write show notes and begin timeline and
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time frames and you know all this
kind of stuff. So so, man,
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that's good. For Good on you, and I think that's what some
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creators listen to the show can take
away as like maybe you do start a
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show with your by yourself or with
someone else, and maybe it does,
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quote unquote, fail, but I
don't really think you fail. I think
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you just learn some man, take
me into the second show and tell me
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a little bit about it. Yeah, so I get out of here right.
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I know I'm added this. You
know this corporate marketing podcast that I
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built that went on the back burner
and everything, and they owed me two
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hundred dollars and I just, you
know, got out there. A year
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later they ended up sending it to
me. So I just thought that was
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hilarious. But Anyway, so I'm
back on my own right, and this
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is March two thousand and twenty.
So I said to myself, okay,
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I'm gonna do this, I'm going
to go full freelance again and see what
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I can do. And so somebody
called me out of the blue one day.
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Had No idea how they got my
number and we still don't know to
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this day, and they were like
hey, you're the podcast guy, come
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on, we got this project for
you. So, you know, long
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story short, the hosts was a
mentalist. He had been on Jackass to
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Ellen show, like he was kind
of like a minor celebrity to so to
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say. And all of his guests
that were lined up were all celebrities to
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like most of them were like a
or like blest c list celebrities, you
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know, Gary Busey, Tony Lo
Bianco, Vernon Davis, WHO's an NFL
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player, Nick Diaz from the UFC. I mean like it was stacked.
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Do this podcast was sacked. Wow. And Yeah, yeah, so by
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any me any measures like that,
you would buy anybody's opinion. This thing,
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once again, on paper, should
have been the most one of those
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successful podcast right. So we get
to like release day, we released the
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show and they're like once again,
or you concerned with the numbers? I'm
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like, Dude, I'm the Audio
Guy, I don't do numbers. Like,
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where's your marketing budget? You know, and this was a hundred million
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dollar company paying for this. Oh
my God, and and but the thing
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is, dude, they did door
to door sales, so they had no
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idea. They never did marketing they
were door to door to door sales company,
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you know, top line, a
hundred million dollars a year, like
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they don't know marketing, they've never
had all are all their content was internal.
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It was like internal, you know, showcases and stuff for their employees.
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That was like just to pump them
up and want more people to do
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doortodoor sales. So they took that
same mindset to a podcast, where it's
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all about the market, it's all
about the listeners, it's all about creating
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a community, and they had no
idea. So that just proved to me
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as well that like, okay,
so you can be a company with no
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money that's going bankrupt and and and
not know how to do this, or
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you can be a company with all
the money in the world and not know
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how to do this. So I
got out of those two podcasts right and
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I realize that this something needs to
change. I neither need to change who
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I'm working with or change how I'm
working with them, you know. So
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that's kind of that experience was extremely
valuable to me. So was was that
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the moment that you're kind of like, man, I might just God be
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a mechanic, or or or did
you have that moment or we like no,
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I'm going to push through, or
were you like you know what?
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Because really, if I were you, I would probably be like man,
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I've worked for two major companies here, one that I didn't know it was
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going to go bankrupt, one has
millions of dollars and I can't get either
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all of these projects to work.
Like I'm going to go back and do
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what I know best and work on
cars. Did you have those thoughts at
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all? It's like that going to
your mind, I pride. Yeah,
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there's actually a moment when that first
company asked me to come back, I
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guess after they went bankrupt and then
started up again, and it was like
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three hundred dollars a week. Dude, and right roommate. I remember asking
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him at the time and he was
like yeah, just take it, man,
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like you. All you have to
do is like ten hours a week.
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for me now. So it's just,
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you know, crazy and he just, you know, like he's we're
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definitely a beginning. We're starting out. You know, there's not out like
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we had some multimillion dollar company now, but anyway, he's like a massive
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part of what I'm doing now and
he was just looking at for my best
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interest, right. But yeah,
I mean my mindset was, you know,
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I'd live in my car for this
shit, you know. So,
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like, I don't I just know, like I actually was a mechanic after
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that part time. You know,
I did that to pay the bills on
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and off for, you know,
three to five years. Went Back to
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the shop that I started at.
So yeah, I actually had a part
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time gigs like in and out.
But I'm also a wedding DJ, so
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I always I had that on the
side as well. So I always had
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ways to get by and squeeze by. I don't spend money on things,
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I only reinvest it in the business, so I can scrape by really easily.
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So I just figured, Shit,
dude, if I got to like,
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you know, go sell cars or
like go do uber something, I
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probably would if I had to,
but I figure I could sell beats or
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I could hustle or something like that. So I was never going to go
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back to anything full time. No, no way. That's what I always
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tell people that, like Oh,
you had a body to do this thing
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forever, like because I had a
teacher printing business for nearly ten years before
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the pandemic. In the pandemic was
like you're done, and I didn't really
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you know, as it's a place
where I was like man, I really
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want to do this business forever.
And then, similar to you, man,
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I was in podcast seem like as
a hobby. Was Make I don't
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think I was making money at that
point with it, but I was just
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in it as a hobby, as
a as a host and having a lot
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of fun. And then, you
know, somebody said Hey, can you
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help me and I'm like sure,
I can help and then my teacher business
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went away during the pandemic and I'm
like, Oh, I can help a
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lot of people. So I started
helping them and then I learned what I
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was good at, and what I
was good at was teach people on to
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monetize. So I kind of,
you know, pivoted just to that.
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I will work. I told some by
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the other day. I'm like,
Dude, I will work twenty hours,
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seven days a week. So I
don't want to work forty four anybody else,
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because I just want the freedom to
do what I want to do,
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when I want to do it,
how I want to do it, and
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being a creator, and this kind
of the thing too, man. I
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Like I want people to understand guys
like you and I, like we're still
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hustling and if we have to,
we will go do a part time job
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or we will do whatever it takes
to make ends meet. And it's not
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just hey, it all goes pretty
and and all that stuff. And there
417
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are times where I wake up and
I go, oh, man, I
418
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could just go work for the and
I've had job offers there, like once
419
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you come to all our medium like
I could do that. I can make
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fifty, sixty Geez insurance, like
my kid would be happy and my wife
421
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would be super happy. And know, was like, I could just do
422
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that, but I know I'm going
to rot in that office chair and I'm
423
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going to die doing something for somebody
else. So you share that same like
424
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feeling when you think about it?
Oh Man, yeah, and like,
425
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Dude, there's months I'm in the
negatives, you know, like this business
426
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.599
isn't, this isn't there's no glory
to this, you know, and right,
427
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.920
and being a boss is, like
I told you. I'm like it's
428
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probably like you just don't do it. Like I don't want to discourage people,
429
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but what I'm saying is like,
if you value any of the stuff
430
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that you're normal, like nine to
five existence gives you, then just stick
431
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with that. Like, if you're
not willing to reverse everything, then then
432
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don't do it, because every single
thing is going to get flipped on its
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head. Your family relationship, your
front relationship with your friends, you know,
434
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like your relationship with your co workers, your relationship with your clients,
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your relationship with with life itself,
your time management, your fitness, your
436
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health, your food, like everything
is going to change. You know so,
437
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and it's all influx in some days
are on top of the world,
438
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in the next day you want to
go back to that nine hundred twenty five
439
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right. So, dude, I
live that. I fucking I'm sorry,
440
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.599
I don't know if I'm laughing.
person. You're five, man, you're
441
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fine, no problem. Now,
I'm with you, you know. And
442
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:08.079
it is that and I always see
those little entrepreneur graphs where it's like,
443
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you know, you do a deal, you're like go but the mountain,
444
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then the next day you're down and
it is that kind of emotional roller coaster.
445
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Then I think that being a creator
on top of it, like we're
446
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kind of built emotionally driven anyway.
So then it's even more you know I
447
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.200
am anyway. So it's then it's
even more of an impact of like drama
448
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.000
in my mind of like Hey,
can I actually do this or whatever.
449
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.519
So we got a couple people saying
hello in the chat here. We got
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Chrisvagalio, well said, and then
monty weaver, always supporting the show.
451
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So appreciate you guys. You gets
people ever here on clubhouse with us as
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well, and we are going to
open this up for a Qa here in
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a little bit. So, man, then you kind of got into it
454
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and you're like, all right,
I'm going to work on my own.
455
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I'm not going to go work for
anymore companies, I'm going to go after
456
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this, this podcast production. What
was the system that you used to bring
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on, because I know you've helped
over like maybe almost three dozen clients now
458
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launch their message to the world.
So what was the attractant to you versus
459
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anyone else? Oh, full relationships. It was just people that I knew
460
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and so on. That first company
that I work for, that first podcast,
461
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that where the company went bankrupt.
They had me on Linkedin and they
462
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told me that you got to go
on Linkedin. We got to use it
463
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to make sales, and thank God
that they had me go on Linkedin because
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once I left I had about five
hundred connections on Linkedin and all I did
465
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was start going. I went on
Linkedin and I start messaging people. Hey,
466
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I help people. I'm at trying
to start to help people make podcast
467
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if you're interested in podcasting, I'll
help you for free, and that's I
468
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did that probably with twenty or thirty
people, and from there people started asking
469
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me to edit their shows or to
consult for them. I didn't charge for
470
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consulting until two and a half years
in, and so now it's just it's
471
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or you know, back then it
was just that networking and now I've just
472
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created a system to for that networking
to scale. And obviously I still talk
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to every single person. I have
people that that you know, sometimes send
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out messages or automated emails and stuff, but like, I've relationships with hundreds
475
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of people from my networking on there. So instagram, I was doing my
476
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own thing on there in terms of
my music and my personal podcast, so
477
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I could go into that. I
still make content there and that's where a
478
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lot of my audience lives. But, dude, I was on Linkedin.
479
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I've probably done linked in. First, I did it probably six hours a
480
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day for six months and now I've
done it two hours a day at least
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for probably two years. So that's
where I developed all those clients. Hell
482
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Yeah, so what are you doing
on Linkedin for two hours a day?
483
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What does that look like? Oh, I could fill it with eight hours,
484
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dude, if I wanted to.
But so this is what I do
485
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in the morning. I go on. The first thing I do, my
486
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first work for the day is checking
my slack and just checking in, you
487
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.079
know, making sure what the clients
are saying with the team saying, and
488
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then I start on Linkedin. I
make a post every day. It's rare
489
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that I prepare the post. I
usually write every morning. I just write
490
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the post right down. People tell
you to prepare, you know, like
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you're going to do with video clips
or something. I just do it my
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way. So I make my post, I post it and then I have
493
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a system for engaging with people.
So I engage on certain people's post,
494
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certain influencers post, and I have
a comment marketing strategy. So, say
495
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.720
Gary V's post, for example.
You probably familiar with Gary v every day.
496
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.799
You can go to any of his
previous five to ten linkedin posts and
497
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.960
I either myself from my partner have
a top comment on that post because we
498
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.720
know what to do. That top
comment brings us hundreds or thousands of people
499
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.720
to my profile. So that's just
a portion of the system that we created
500
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.359
that I actually use somebody else's content
system. His name is Justin. Well,
501
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.720
she has a linkedin course. That's
pretty solid. I basically took an
502
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.799
amalgamation of what he did and then
what we're doing. I learned the Gary
503
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.359
v comment marketing thing from this girl
named Holataja. She runs young and profiting
504
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.319
of really very successful podcast. So
it's been it's been years of trying to
505
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.240
figure this out, but that's kind
of a glimpse into my system. That's
506
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.839
awesome. And is this the same
system that you teach other podcasters when they
507
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come on and work with you?
Is that a part of the program?
508
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:14.799
You know, we do. Most
of the kind of promotion that we do
509
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is to get my number one goal
for a lot of these podcasters coming in
510
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:23.079
is get as much of your current
audience to become your podcast audience. Right.
511
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.240
So most of them are already creating
on Linkedin, but some of them
512
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do what we do on Linkedin on
facebook or maybe on these other platforms.
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00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:37.079
So I don't do a linkedin deep
dive with clients unless they like asked for
514
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it. So I'm and I'll usually
guide them to one of these courses,
515
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.720
but we cover kind of fundamentals of
promotion and then hey, if they want
516
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to go deep on Linkedin, we
can definitely go there. But I do
517
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separate linkedin consulting just from people who
ask. I don't like advertise it,
518
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.599
but I've done that a few times
now. All right, cool, yeah,
519
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:53.880
man, I's I just like,
you know what, because I just
520
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started doing content on Linkedin, which
is this live show right now. I
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like maybe started yesterday because I forgot, because I like to go live,
522
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:03.079
and then they're like, oh,
yeah, you can go live in like
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five years from now, and so
then they finally let me have access and
524
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.079
I forgot all about it. So
anyway, yeah, and you know the
525
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.960
thing with that is that's different.
Started to jump in there, but I
526
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.920
get people to know this. This
is probably the number one thing you should
527
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.759
know is that you can post on
facebook. Doesn't really care how many people's
528
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:25.519
post you comment on. So,
meaning if I post something that people on
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00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:30.039
facebook like, it will get seen
like if it's good. On linkedin it
530
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.279
much harder to do that. And
on Linkedin it's more of a trade.
531
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.759
It's more of you put the time
in, you engage with people, you
532
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.920
comment and then you get rewarded for
that. So I just want to set
533
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.680
that tone for people, like if
you're not going to put the work in
534
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.079
on Linkedin, just you know,
just know that you're not going to get
535
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.480
the results, and at least Im
from my experience. So I'll say this
536
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.960
might this will be my last linkedin
question and maybe I'll go offline with you
537
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.920
about my curiosity. So you're saying
if I go on Linkedin and I'm getting
538
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:02.400
on here and I go to knee
or Kendrick or David or Joseph or Greg's
539
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.119
Linkedin that's listening over here on clubhouse
and I engage with them, than Linkedin,
540
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.039
a Linkedin's algorithm says, oh,
hey, you're a part of the
541
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.440
community, so now I'm going to
bump your your content, or is it
542
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.599
just bumping your what does that?
I mean? What? I don't yeah,
543
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.839
can you dive into that a little
bit, because that's like a pretty
544
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:27.799
easy thing to do to get rewarded
in I guess whatever. Okay, anyway,
545
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.440
you got my question. I'm I'm
gonna let you know. It's complicated.
546
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.240
No, you're good, it's complete. It's annoying. So I kind
547
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.519
of I'll start with this. If
you if somebody comments on your post right,
548
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:45.400
people who are connected with them will
see your post because it'll say billy
549
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:52.279
commented on Ryan's post. So now
your post gets in front of all of
550
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.319
the people who commented. Audience.
Wow. So that how post gets seen,
551
00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.720
right. So, and it this
happens on facebook a little bit too,
552
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.680
but it's not the same algorithm.
I don't know how the Algorithm works
553
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.279
on Linkedin time of day that you
post, the amount of words, not
554
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.240
using links, putting links in the
comments instead, like Emoji's. No,
555
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.759
like, I'm telling you this.
It goes really deep, but I can
556
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:22.400
guarantee you that you will see guaranteed
growth and reach if you spend ninety five
557
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.519
percent of your time engaging with other
people and five percent of your time posting.
558
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.759
All right, man, that's good. That's good tip right there.
559
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.759
Ninety five percent of your time engaging, five percent of just posting with your
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own content. And I know a
guy, Kevin Schmidlin, I believe it
561
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is how I says last name.
He's in the Philly area. Had had
562
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:45.119
a big podcast called feeling. WHO. Yes, he's he helps people launch
563
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.880
podcast right, I think so.
But he has this daily targeted engagement thing
564
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.839
that he's talking about on Instagram or
whatever. And and so, yeah,
565
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.400
actually got to interview them, editing
and put out with him. But yeah,
566
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.039
man, he's you know, crushes
it with that stuff too. So
567
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.720
really interesting about about Linkedin, and
that is the thing, like don't quit.
568
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.119
Don't quit on linked an either.
Keep going. And this is the
569
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.039
whole thing, is like don't quit
the don't quit show because it's going to
570
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.840
pay off for you in the law
run. If I would have quit six
571
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.079
months and dude, I wouldn't.
And I have five thousand connections on there.
572
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:21.800
It's not I'm not an influencer like
these. There's people that have a
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million, right. But people come
to me now and are like hey,
574
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man, you're like you know,
you have this audience on Linkedin. I'm
575
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.639
like, I don't even look at
it like that, like I still just
576
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:31.360
see my off as the guy with
like a few thousand connections, you know.
577
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.360
Yeah, but then people start.
It gives you authority like I have,
578
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.400
you know, authors, celebrities,
people who have been on you know,
579
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.440
you name it, television show on
network television reaching out to me,
580
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:46.880
Hey, I want to start my
podcast, because they don't even know me,
581
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.639
you know, just by my presence
on there. So yeah, man,
582
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.679
it's the dividends payoff, but you
got to do that work. Yeah,
583
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:58.119
man, well, good on you
for not quitting. And I think
584
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.440
you know, people listen to this
or watching it, it's like this is
585
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.039
the game of being a content creator, if you want to be a content
586
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:06.920
creator for a living. Now,
if you just want to do fun or
587
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.840
whatever. But I think when you're
in the position that you're and I are
588
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:13.320
in, where we're going, hey, we're sending out to do this for
589
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.519
a living, you know, like
to make money to do all those things,
590
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.760
I think it's really important to have
that game plan. But be willing
591
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.480
to pivot, be willing to go
eat dirt for, you know, a
592
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.639
little while to get your feet in
the ground. Be Willing to not drink
593
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:32.159
the eight dollar cup of coffee and
drink the Nasty Folders Cup or whatever you
594
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.920
maybe that's right here, my guy
that folders. Baby, get that photo.
595
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.000
I'm over here drinking maven coffee.
I don't need to where minds that.
596
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.920
Hey, shout out to Mavin coffee
on the sponsor right there. That's
597
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.280
we got good. Yeah, I
mean they're awesome to they're from Columbia.
598
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.199
I mean, dude, I was
not a coffee drinker. I was actually
599
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.400
anti coffee. They're like, let
us make you a lot toe see what
600
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.800
you think about it. I took
three sips and I'm like this is dope.
601
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.519
So I haven't turned back since then. That was a couple of years
602
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.559
ago. Man. Is there any
other tips as far as like things that
603
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.039
you do? Do you wake up
in the morning? Go don't quit,
604
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:07.800
man, don't quit. Don't quick. I mean what was the thing that
605
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.079
you know you do as an entrepreneur
to keep yourself motivated? or You like
606
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.039
tracking wins or metrics, or how
do you why do you get, you
607
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.000
know, inspire yourself as as an
entrepreneur, as a content career? I
608
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:23.199
just watch Dave and Gogat, David
Goggins videos over and over again on instagram.
609
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.239
I don't know if you know who
I'm referring to, but yeah,
610
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.760
man, now, man, I
have a I have a routine that I
611
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.039
stick to and really, I think
this is the this is kind of how
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I look at it. I've spent
the last like five years really focusing on
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selfdevelopment and routines and trying to be
the best people say, be the best
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version of themselves. Like, I'm
not talking really for other people, I'm
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talking like how can I just stay
discipline, stay motivated, stay on track,
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stay selfaware and really improve on these
on these higher level skills? So
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I started meditating like four years ago. It's something I do every day,
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five days a week, four days
a week. Like I look at all
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of these habits as plut as kind
of additions, right, so every day
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I can sit down and work and
I'm at a hundred percent, right,
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like I don't want to have a
habit that that try that gets me from
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eighty to a hundred percent, because
that would mean that I would have to
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do it, so I would then
be relying on that thing. So all
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of my habits help me, like
they give me an edge, right,
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they give me they help me in
some way, but I don't like to
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get completely tied to them, like
to the fact to the point that like
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I need to do them all the
time or no matter what, or else
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I'll feel different or act different.
so meditation has been key with me,
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just walking, and then just to
could the consistent exercise. I've been just
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like lifting weights and working out for
since I was like fifteen, mant.
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So I've been staying on that and
and really just developing those consistent habits that
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work for me. I've done everything. I've done early morning workouts, I've
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done late workouts, I've done cold
showers, I've done journaling, I've done,
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you know everything. I have this
notebook I used to write down like
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how I felt about my day and
track that. I don't do that anymore.
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Like I've probably ninety nine percent of
the things I've tried I don't do,
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but I've just stuck with the ones
that that work for me. So,
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you know, it's always tough,
but but the number one thing that
639
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I'm focused on lately, especially managing
a team, is just managing emotions and
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just being able to respond to something
instead of react to it, and so
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that's been like a lot of my
focus lately because, you know, managing
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a team and a company's hard man
you man know, you know, a
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couple takeaways from what you said.
One is like doing the elementary things consistently.
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I think is what make to win
at the end of the day.
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Someone told me that a long time
ago. They told me told me two
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things you said. One, it's
quality over quantity, and then, too,
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it's which I kind of still believe
that to a certain extent. I
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mean believe there's Times unique quality quantity
just to kind of get ramped up and
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get your systems in place. But
once you kind of hit that to like
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okay, now let's work on,
you know, quality over quantity. And
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then the other thing is like,
even in your daily routines, you're like,
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man, I've tried some stuff,
a lot of stuff I've tried.
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I'm not, you know, kept
and I think there's like seasons for everything
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as creators and if you put yourself
in this box and really as people and
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entrepreneurs in general, if I said, Hey, what I did five years
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ago I still have to do today, I would probably be real up crap
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creek without a paddle because I would
still be holding onto something that just not
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working. Now it's just not working. So I love it that you're talking
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about the pivot and going okay,
Cooliman. I do this for six months
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or three months or thirty days to
get this habit in the place or whatever,
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but then I may not ever do
it again. And so yeah,
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man, I love that you brought
that up because I think it's I think
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sometimes it's creators. We get married
to projects, we get married to systems,
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we get married to, you know, like the way we did it
665
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or way someone else does it and
tells us how to do it. So
666
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yeah, man, high five for
bringing that in. And then also,
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real quick of Phil. He'll over
here in club house says Hey, who's
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00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:08.639
your guest? Standard was Ryan Sullivan
with podcast principles. So you can go
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00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.239
check them out and I tagged a
link over here on clubhouse as well.
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You can go to that link in
all the information is there and then once
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I publish the episode to the arts
as feed, all that stuff will live
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there as well. So Ryan,
real quick, man, before we dip
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out. And by the way,
if anybody has any questions, feel free
674
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to drop him in the chat.
If you're on club house, raise your
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hand. If you're on bullhorn,
call in chat questions boxes there and we
676
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can answer those for you. But
before we dip out. Is there anything
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else that we haven't talked about that
motivate you not to quit? You want
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to share it, inspire this audience
of creators with yeah, I'll say.
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Just know why you're doing it.
And this sounds so simple, and this
680
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is probably something you've talked about before, but when you are up late making
681
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that video clip for your podcast,
when you're doing that edit that you know
682
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your computer died and now you got
to edit it all over again, you
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know when you're in those moments that
everything seems to just really suck. You
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have to think, you have to
understand the bigger picture of what you're doing,
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and everything that's worth doing is worth
of doing the right way the first
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time, if that's possible. So
I just think that if you don't have
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most people will stop, I think
because they're not. It's not they can't,
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they have nothing to go to to
be like, Oh, yeah,
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that's why I do it, like
I wrote it down, you know,
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like now I got to do it
because I always do it, because this
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is why. So I think just
making that evident for yourself is is is
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important, man, and I think
that it sounds a little fluffy, but
693
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I really think that that's a big
reason why people stop is because a lot
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of people just do and they don't
know why they do. So that's good,
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man. Nope, know the why
and why you do stuff, man,
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man, love that. I don't
think you can get better advice than
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that. Like, know your why
and it's going to motivate you and drive
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you right. It's like people ask
me, like, dude, I just
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sort a daily show about creators.
I'm like because I want to build a
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Badass community of creators who inspire each
other and encourage each other help each other.
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Like I want to win and I
want to surround myself with people who
702
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want to win, and if I
got to create a daily show to keep
703
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the conversation going and keep people lit
about creating and motivation and inspiration all that,
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then that's what I'm going to do. And that's why every night,
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when my kid goes to bed and
my wife goes to bed, guess what
706
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I'm doing? I'm putting together a
show for tomorrow. And so you know,
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it's that's the reason why and that's
the whole motivation is, like I
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want to build this awesome community of
creators that you know when I'm down and
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out. They're going to pick me
up and vice versa. So it's it's
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pretty dope. So yeah, this
is the beginning stages of that and in
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this project. So, man,
Ryan, I really appreciate you coming in.
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I'm going to jump over some chats
real quick. Make sure no one
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needs anything. Phil Hill says Hello
Ryan. So feels a good dude when
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he's up. Oh, appreciate you
tuning in, man. Yeah, man,
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he's a live streamer on over on
Amazon. So we got live streamers,
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we got podcasters, we got authors
and teachers, all kinds of people
717
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in this community, man. So
we really like it. But do really
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appreciate you coming in. I'm going
to check a couple other spots here before
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I let you go. Just make
sure we don't have any questions. Well,
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thank you so much for having me, man, this is good time.
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I really appreciate your content, your
podcast. I'm going to dive into
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that Amazon episode two, because I
saw that and I didn't I wasn't able
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to listen to it yet. So
that's that's interesting to me. And that
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contest that you mentioned too, I'm
a look into it. I'll look into
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the fine print though. What a
great tip because I've signed up for for
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rap showcases and stuff like that and
then they like, you know, own
727
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.480
half your life for like half your
life or something like that. So you
728
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.880
never know, man, but billy, thank you so much, man.
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You're doing some great work here and
especially for the podcast community, and the
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good thing about this is that everybody's
on the same page in this community,
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man, just supporting each other.
So I appreciate you being being a part
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of that and having me on.
Yeah, man, you as well.
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We'll stay connected. We'll have you
back on and talk about some other fun
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stuff as well. So I really
appreciate your Ryan. And all right,
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guys, that is that's a rap
for today's episode of creating for daily.
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They're creating daily, not creating for
daily, creating daily. Once again,
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you can check it out creating daily
dot live. So if you're if you
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need any show links from today,
go to that and go to the live
739
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show tab. If you want to
be a guest on the show, I'm
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doing these five days a week,
Monday through Friday, at too bem eastern
741
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time, as long as the world
and all the stars aligned, and let
742
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.760
me do that. If you want
to be a guest, if your content
743
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creator or your Creator and some facet
that's probably more around podcasting and live streaming,
744
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.320
you know, content creation, social
media, things like that. If
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00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.440
you want to come on and you
get a store to share or you get
746
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.719
some tips of tricks and you want
to build an episode together, would love
747
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:58.400
to do that. Reach out to
me. Go to creating daily dot live
748
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.519
and just go to contact and you
can shoot me a message there and we'll
749
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get the conversation started and join us. Tomorrow. I'm going to we're not
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going to have a guest on,
but I'm going to have a guest co
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hosted meadows. Some of you of
here on clubhouse know him, maybe some
752
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:14.119
of you on my live stream.
He's been on with me before. But
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we're going to recap the week.
We're going to have a lot of funs.
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Can Be Fryationanigan's, so it's long
as I get to verbally abuse him
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00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.199
a few times I'll be happy.
But bring your takeaways from the week,
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if you've been listening to to all
the episodes, bring some takeaways. I'd
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00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.199
love to hear it. Would love
to get some feedback on our first official
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week of creating daily, creating five
shows in one week, which is pretty
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00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.440
fun. If you have any questions
about my experience on that, so free
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to ask me as well and get
in touch. And what a shout out
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to my friend knee. I believe
knee has been on every single episode in
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the audience, supporting in the back
channel Chat. So really appreciate that,
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man. That's what community is all
about. I know not not that everyone
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can do that, but really appreciate
need doing that. So until tomorrow.
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I'll see you tomorrow to PM Eastern
time. Go here the record button,
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go create something great, go inspire
somebody and just remember your message matters.
767
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.239
So don't quit because somebody else needs
you. You heard it today. Ryan
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has literally helped over three dozen people
launch a podcast and get their message out
769
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to the world. However, he
could have quit and just went to the
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other way in, those people would
still be struggling trying to get their content
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out. So don't give up on
yourself, don't give up on others,
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because people need to hear you.
All Right, talk to you soon.
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