The Power of Not Quitting w/ Ryan Sullivan

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.919 Now here's something we hope you really like. You're listening to creating daily, 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.359 there's something wrong with you. You know that, because you and I are 3 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:12.279 like a mullet is the is the business. So he's the front part of 4 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:15.800 the haircut and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're hilarious. 5 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:22.079 Speaks to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. All right, 6 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:25.920 what's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. My 7 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:30.320 name is Billy Thorpe. I'm your host and all the time rushing around doing 8 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:33.320 all kinds of crazy stuff right before the show. But welcome to the PODCAST. 9 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:35.880 We've never been here before, then thanks for coming. If you've been 10 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.399 here, thanks for coming back. I don't know why you're back, but 11 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.520 you're here. So we're gonna have a lot of fun and once again this 12 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:45.880 show is all about bringing on other creators to talk about the Creator Journey. 13 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.679 So today I'm going to be joined here in a few minutes by my friend, 14 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:52.560 Ryan Sullivan, my new friend. We literally just met moments ago. 15 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:58.159 He is a podcaster, podcast producer and was on the verge of quitting and 16 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.960 then made a little turn around. So I want to talk about that perseverance 17 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.319 as a content creator, because there's a lot of stuff we're doing and and 18 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.120 I think it's good to get a perspective from somebody who, like him, 19 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.599 like myself, who've wanted to quit price several times, maybe even several times 20 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:12.920 this week, but we haven't. So we want to share some of their 21 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:18.359 strategies of how we overcome, you know, all those things that make you 22 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.319 want to quit. But before we do, as you know, we got 23 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:26.359 some highlights, creator highlights. New Cooking necessary and new assembly required. It's 24 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.239 got to be fun, all right, it's going to be Funky, and 25 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:36.519 I want to just shout out my friends over maving coffeecom. 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He is award winning music photographer. 35 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.400 I mean literally, this guy's like the definition of Creator. He's a 36 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:24.240 photographer, live streamer, podcaster, Youtuber, I mean he is doing everything 37 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:29.879 and he's had one heck of a year. Last year a storm came through 38 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.039 up in New Jersey. Why? I mean completely wiped him out, flooded 39 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:38.680 his house, flooded his recording studio, podcast studio, all the camera gear, 40 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:40.960 all that kind of stuff. And I sit there, I watched it, 41 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:45.400 you know, one phone calls from him and just keep me in the 42 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:50.400 loop. And then also just kind of saw it go down on instagram and 43 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.400 and just watched him his whole house, basically ruined, his studio, all 44 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.520 this stuff. But yet he re you know, got back on his feet 45 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:00.199 again start rebuilding it and literally did it with a smile on his face. 46 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:05.479 I couldn't believe it. He's easily one of the nicest guys I've ever met 47 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:09.439 and just persevered and talk about a creator not wanting to quit. Many of 48 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.000 us would have thrown into the towel, but he made it through there. 49 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:15.120 So one to give him a shout out. So be sure once you gotta 50 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:19.800 go to the slide. If you're watching many Cobbo, the many Cobbo on 51 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.199 Instagram, go follow him. You can go check out all the stuff he's 52 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:25.719 doing. He's doing a lot of stuff. Super Multihy Creator, so we 53 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:31.400 appreciate him always being a blessing to the community. So it's always awesome. 54 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:36.319 All right. Now let's get into a little bit of podcasting news. That's 55 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:40.520 news to me creating daily. All Right, I get my podcast news from 56 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:44.000 Pod News. I think you pod news. If you guys don't follow them, 57 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.199 be sure to do that and follow their podcast. But they announced yesterday 58 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:52.560 that a company called PR X, which is one of the world's leading podcast 59 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.680 publishing companies, announced that they're going to the partner with google to do this 60 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:02.199 Google podcast creator program so it's basically like a podcast accelerator for audio producers all 61 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.800 around the world and Applications Open on March twenty nine. So if you want 62 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:09.439 to be a part of that and they close on April twenty four, and 63 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.599 some of the things that are included, or twenty weeks of intensive training, 64 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:16.160 which is pretty crazy. Throughout the training program teams will be guided through Pitch 65 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:20.600 Prep, you know, pitch decks, production, marketing, monetization, audio, 66 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.439 all those fun things, and that the end of the program they're going 67 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.480 to have like a I don't know what you call it, like a showcase, 68 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:30.120 I guess, a showcase of the work they're going to get up up 69 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.959 to Twentyzero funding for production costs, as well Travel Rey embursements, oneone coaching, 70 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:39.079 all the kind of stuff, and then also access to like a network 71 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:44.079 of other content creators and podcasters and that kind of thing. So pretty cool. 72 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.319 If you're going to go sign up for that. I would just say 73 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.639 go readefine details. I know a lot of friends of mine have went to 74 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:55.120 competition style things and didn't sign the contract because of what was in the contracts. 75 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.079 Make sure you just double check that and protect yourself as a creator. 76 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:02.240 And I conspiracy theorist, but there's big companies doing these things for a reason. 77 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.800 Maybe they're trying to get your ideas. All right, put on your 78 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:09.199 Ti'm going to put my tin hat back in the box now and invite my 79 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:14.439 friend Ryan Sullivan on the show and let's get into this podcast. Man, 80 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.120 what's going on, Ryan? How are you? Man? Hey, I'm 81 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.000 good, man, doing well. How are you? Man? I'm doing 82 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:26.000 good. I am better. decided to be here brother podcast. Yeah, 83 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:29.720 man, I'm doing good. I'm better now that that we're here, that 84 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.040 we're recording, and I think you and I both talked about it before the 85 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.800 show. Maybe both of US struggle with a little bit Internet problems. So 86 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:43.040 hopefully this thing will stay together. He got to keep the faith, man. 87 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.839 That's really you know, there's a few, there's a lot of things 88 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.399 you can't control, and I talked about that a lot when I, you 89 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.079 know, in my coaching programs with people and helping them start podcasts, you 90 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:54.519 know, and it's like what can we control, you know. So that's 91 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.759 one of those things. It is what it is. I Lost I lost 92 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.199 my audio the other day after my power went out while I was recording a 93 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.759 live podcast. So you know, I've everything has happened. That could happen 94 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:08.120 right, so probably to you too. Yeah, to yeah, if it's 95 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:11.279 going to happen, especially if it involves the Internet, that's always like. 96 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:15.199 That's like my cryptonied or whatever. So well, man, appreciate you coming 97 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.079 on here in a definitely want to talk about persevering through the creative process and 98 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.040 being a podcaster. But before we jump into it, man, you do 99 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:26.079 have a company called podcast principles. Are you guys are helping launch people, 100 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.759 you know, but podcast. So tell me a little bit about that before 101 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:32.000 we jump into how you got there. Yeah, sure, yeah, so 102 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:36.160 I'm the founder of podcast principles. We help people launched podcast, primarily without 103 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:41.720 wasting time. That is the my number one goal, because I spent four 104 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:45.439 years, you know, developing my podcast, stopping starting again. We'll go 105 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.720 into the story of that. But really what we do is create a systematize 106 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:54.240 process to launch your podcast, and I think a lot of you know really 107 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.759 the main question we get is like how do I do it? Should I 108 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.199 do it? As my idea good enough for people going to listen to it, 109 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.560 etc. So we just developed a system to do that over the course 110 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.639 of five calls in the beginning, and then we also do production for people's 111 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:11.120 podcast as well if that's something that they need. But all in all it's 112 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:16.439 a it's a onestop shop podcast launch system for personal brands we've worked with companies 113 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:19.680 and businesses before, but it's mostly, you know, so launentrepreneurs, solo 114 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:23.800 creators that want to have a system of ties and kind of coherent way to 115 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.839 start their podcast without any of the BS of searching thousands of hours on Google 116 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.680 and and Youtube. Man, I love it anytime you can cut the learning 117 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.480 curve down for somebody like that's value in itself, so that the fact that 118 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.920 you guys are not only going to do that help them get started, get 119 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.959 all their ideas together, put it out there, but then manage it form 120 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:44.399 as well or have that option. It's pretty cool. So, man, 121 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:46.199 you share a little bit of your story with me, and part of that 122 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:53.279 story is that you were a mechanic who went podcast. Right. Hopefully I 123 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.040 didn't lose you here, but so tell me. How how the world did 124 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:01.480 you go from mechanic to to podcaster to podcast producer? Yeah, well, 125 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.120 I'll start. You know where it started. So in my senior year of 126 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:11.360 high school I decided to quit sports and so I could work and I've realized 127 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.160 like the value and learning a skill. Luckily I realized that early on and 128 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:18.720 my dad had like had side jobs all throughout. You know, my childhood. 129 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.480 I was always helping him and he was basically all just working, you 130 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.560 know, all the time, and and whether it was his day job or 131 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.240 on the side. So I feel like I kind of picked up that hustle 132 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.759 and I wasn't a super competitive person. Almost just like the Camaraderie of sports, 133 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:37.000 but I didn't really it's not I wasn't terrible at them, but I 134 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.679 didn't like really excel at them to the point where I really like loved it. 135 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:41.679 So I think I just got to the point where I was just fed 136 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.879 up with coaches telling me what to do and I figured I'm just going to 137 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.679 go work and get a job. So I always liked cars. I ended 138 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.279 up going to a what was called Polytech, like a votex school, so 139 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.879 half of my day and in high school was that and then the other half 140 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.039 was just regular school. And at the same time I found I brought my 141 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.200 car to a shop and I walked in and they were like Hey, do 142 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.679 you want a job? Like I'm leaving like this kid that I had played 143 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:09.000 basketball with like twelve years earlier and a dude I knew nothing about. Like 144 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.600 I loved cars, like I had a passion for cars. My whole life, 145 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:13.720 but I knew nothing about fixing them. So I ended up just taking 146 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.960 that job and I ended up being a mechanic full time and part time to 147 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.960 at two different shops over the next like three and a half, four years 148 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.679 while I was in college. So that was kind of the start of the 149 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.440 mechanic thing. I mean, I could keep going into the how I got 150 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.480 into podcasting as well, but that was the mechanic portion. Yeah, man, 151 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:33.960 no, dude, no, I want to. I want to get 152 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:37.559 into that because I know you. You left that mechanic job, you're into 153 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.559 podcasting. So, yeah, lead me into how did you will get you 154 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.879 interested in podcasting? Why did you even get into the industry, like as 155 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:48.279 a podcaster? Did you go podcaster first or podcast producer? So I was 156 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.559 a podcaster first, and so what I'm actually also rapper, and that's what 157 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.759 this other logo is there too. been releasing music for like five years now. 158 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:01.240 And and so I had been in the audio world and like the music 159 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.080 world, and I always just thought a podcast was a cool idea. I 160 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.759 was a massive Joe Rogan fan from like two thousand and fourteen on. Just 161 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.840 love the medium, love the style of longform conversation and just figured hey, 162 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:13.399 might as well start. A few of my friends were like hey, man, 163 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.919 like we'd listened to it. So if I had a few people to 164 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:18.399 listen to it, that was enough for me to get started. I bought 165 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.320 this Webcam, I bought a USB microphone and I just got started. I 166 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.559 did two episodes by myself and what I would do is I had instant instagram 167 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:31.519 series every Monday called Monday thoughts, and I would say a minute to describe 168 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.480 a certain concept, whether it was decisionmaking or self improvement or whatever it was, 169 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.960 and so I really use the podcast to just expand on those concepts and 170 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.200 the first couple episodes got like hundreds of yews. I thought they were going 171 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.919 to get tens of us. So at that point I said, all right, 172 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.240 this is something I might as well keep going. I met somebody who 173 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.279 made six figures on the stock market when they were twenty one years old. 174 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.120 Immediately that day I turned it into an interview show and I bought another microphone 175 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:58.240 and now I've been interviewing people since two thousand and eighteen. So you know, 176 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.639 I changed the name, I rebranded it in the first in the first 177 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.879 year as well. So yeah, man, it was kind of that's kind 178 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:07.879 of how I got into podcasting. I just randomly started and then I had 179 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.159 been producing my own music on the side because I couldn't afford to buy music 180 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:18.200 to use for my wraps. So producing music led me to mixing audio and 181 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.960 I had a really yeah, yeah, so that's kind of how I got 182 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.440 into audio. So I had two great mentors. Add One mentor from music. 183 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.720 His name's beach links. He's work with Ditty, he's work with Action 184 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.639 Bronson. He had a really pretty prominent rap group here in the Phili area. 185 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:33.840 So DMD in one day he allowed me to come in the studio pay 186 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.399 for studio time and he was like my music mentor. Then I got hooked 187 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.759 up with a music studio later on and that was my audio engineering mentor. 188 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.960 So I in turned there for free creating content. I said Hey, man, 189 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.200 let me shoot videos on your on my phone, I'll edit them and 190 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.080 then you just let me sit there and ask you questions. So I had 191 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.519 those two mentors, one for music and one for audio engineering, and then 192 00:11:54.559 --> 00:12:00.639 I took that audio and engineering knowledge and I basically just started applying for for 193 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.360 podcast jobs and it's kind of funny how I got my first, you know, 194 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.159 podcast audio editing job, after after interning that studio. Man, but 195 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.720 I was just I was living off of savings and I had I remember I 196 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:13.519 had six hundred bucks, I think, in my back account was like the 197 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.320 was like when I got, when I got my first freelance job. It 198 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.679 took me three months to make eighty dollars. It's awesome, man. So 199 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.840 it's okay. So this dive into that because my wife and I were my 200 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.120 wife really she's a graphic designer. So same thing. So it's been in 201 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:33.360 freelance space for really, really long time, kind of fighting uphill battle against 202 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.559 idiot graphic designers who don't do it they say they're going to do. But 203 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.919 let's talk about that for a second because it might be people listening who were 204 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.360 like, Oh, I'm a podcaster, but I want to produce. I 205 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.240 love that part of you, know, editing and sitting back and help, 206 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:48.600 you know, helping people do this. Where did you go? Did you 207 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.960 go like to like fiver or like where did you go to find that first 208 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.279 job? I had somebody on my podcast named Tory grant and you can look 209 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:00.360 him up now. You're actually a really good skateboarder and he I had him 210 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.240 on my podcast. He was recommended by a friend of a friend and you 211 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.679 know, he came on the podcast and he talked about using up work to 212 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.559 yeah, basically quit his job. Right. So I'm like Hell Yeah, 213 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.960 Dude, I'm gonna try this, like, let's try it, let's see 214 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.639 what happens. Right. So I got on UPWORK. Like I said, 215 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.879 three months go by. Man, on my third month, somebody paid me 216 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.240 eighty dollars, wasn't even editing, to do a voiceover for a drone video 217 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:30.120 of a covered bridge in California, and that video is still up. That 218 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.519 was my first free lance job ever. You could not make this shit up, 219 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.879 man. That's perfect. Man. I love that story, Dude, 220 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.120 I love that story. So I guess it. But probably for you at 221 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.120 that moment as like an entrepreneur, as a creator, you're by like, 222 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:46.399 dude, this is awesome, man. I'm like, that's what I'm just 223 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:50.240 saying. Like some people, and and I could get into it, but 224 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.080 my first to podcast on paper like failed, like the first two podcasts that 225 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:56.799 I did for like companies like Ye, after that little eighty dollar job, 226 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.960 they, like on paper failed and like think about a dude, three months 227 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.960 in I make eighty bucks. Like my my dad's like, are you going 228 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.240 to go work at the shop again, like what's going on? Like he 229 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.399 didn't know what I was doing. But every day I was just copy and 230 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.639 pasting up work messages and just hitting people up and, you know, it 231 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.000 just and this was before I was on Linkedin and like built an audience on 232 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.440 there too, and I just didn't I had no idea what to do. 233 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.039 Dude. I just took with this guy said. He sent me his scripts. 234 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:24.840 I edited the scripts with my name and I'm and I just kept sending 235 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:30.600 out messages. But my first podcast is probably that one. Is Pretty interesting 236 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.039 because I was on upwork. I had no credits left on upwork man and 237 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:35.840 I'm like, you know, I'm not buying more credits. This sucks. 238 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:41.080 And I found a company who needed a podcast producer. So what I did 239 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.080 was, luckily the company, they had the name of the company on the 240 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.039 AD, which is a pretty that's a lot of companies don't do that right 241 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.399 because they don't want to get spam. They don't want get spam with people 242 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.320 on UPWORK. So but for some reason they had the name of the company. 243 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:54.320 Right. So I'm like all right, dope, so let me. 244 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.320 I went to the company website and it said book a discovery call. So 245 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.240 that discovery call is for like companies who want marketing, because this was a 246 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.320 marketing company. So I just typed in my youtube channel. I'm like I 247 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.000 have two hundred thousand views. I'm making like I don't know, I might 248 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.000 have probably made everything else up, but I just acted like I was a 249 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.240 business. I get on the call with the guy and he was like yeah, 250 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:16.600 man, like I don't know why I'm talking to you, but like 251 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.720 I like the hustle, so why don't you come in to the city interview? 252 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.600 And then from there I ended up doing a whole podcast for them and 253 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.600 producing. I literally ended up like editing audio, video, show notes, 254 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.960 booking guests, Seo, writing blog post. Yeah, man. So then 255 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:35.320 that's turned into a part time and then at one point of full time roll 256 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.639 just because I ended up calling that CEO and getting on zoom. That was 257 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.639 the first time I use zoom. So Do I love that? Man. 258 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.039 I love that Hustle. I love using that little hack of like yeah, 259 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.559 I'll do discovery call. Now let's talk about something. No, Hey, 260 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:52.159 man, this is actually what I want to talk to you about. I'm 261 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.600 actually not a business. I'm actually twenty one years old and have no idea 262 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.240 what I'm doing. But like, hear me out, you know, did 263 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.039 you get me nervous now? I like, wait, is he all my 264 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.720 show? Why is see? How my show? What's he doing? is 265 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:04.399 He really who he says he is? What's happening? Yeah, man, 266 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.559 I'm trying to do you need some editing. I actually have some pointers for 267 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.759 you on here to pitch me. I okay, that's awesome. Well, 268 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.960 maybe. So you said those first two failed. So was that was the 269 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.000 first one. So how did it? How did the quote unquote fail? 270 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:22.919 Like what was a failure on paper, I guess. Yeah, I mean 271 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.080 it was not a failure to me at all, like I learned so much 272 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.320 by working for this company, but it was a failure on paper in the 273 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:33.240 way that like, like they gave me the idea for the PODCAST, right. 274 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.399 So they were like, we're going to have people on the podcast who 275 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.159 invest in companies that we want to work with. We're going to have the 276 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.440 VC's on the podcast. Then we're going to go to the VC's and ask 277 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.039 them for an introduction to these companies that we want to work with. That 278 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.919 wasn't my strategy, right. So that was their strategy. So I came 279 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.159 in and just fulfilled basically the production, that editing, the messaging and the 280 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.279 interviewing. I was the host to and so, you know, in that 281 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:02.159 was a success. Like I full I did what I was supposed to do. 282 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:07.160 But what happened was they put me on sales because they realize like obviously 283 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:08.920 I could like talk to people and like explain things or whatever. So they 284 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.319 ended up put me on sales and the podcasters went in the backburn all right, 285 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.599 yeah, so, yeah, man, and then they the end of 286 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.000 the day they're like where's the podcast? I'm like, Dude, I'm doing, 287 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:19.759 like I'm maxed out, twelve hours a day, like trying to do 288 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:23.680 discovery calls and you're not even selling. Like I'm doing these discovery calls, 289 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.400 getting them in the door and you're not even closing. And then you're like 290 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:30.880 where's the podcast? You know that, you know you were supposed to lead, 291 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.799 you know. So, yeah, that was I would never trade it 292 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.880 for anything, but at the end of the day the podcast didn't continue. 293 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:40.079 They took me off of it. I mean the company went bankrupt. They'd 294 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:42.759 never even knowed anybody like it was terrible. It was a kind of a 295 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:45.640 hope they're doing better now, but yeah, that was bad. That was 296 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.400 overall, like a bat, like a I guess I negative experience, like 297 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.359 I said, on paper, sure, but for me I just learned everything 298 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.519 I possibly could and then just got the hell out of there. You know, 299 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.240 yeah, that's crazy, man. Well, it's good for you to 300 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:00.400 learn, you know, and I did that to man. I would work 301 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.599 for nonprofit for like almost a decade and learn like a ton of stuff. 302 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.480 I mean some stuff I wanted to learn, some stuff I didn't, but 303 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:11.440 I just learned a bond of stuff about media and I've always been curious about 304 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.160 it. But you know, that is that is good that you look at 305 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.440 then said, okay, I'm going to learn someone, because I think a 306 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:19.960 lot of times, man, we're creators, were career minded people. We 307 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:23.519 get into something and it doesn't work out and then we're just like we take 308 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:27.039 all the bad stuff with us and we don't remember all the good things that 309 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.519 came out that experience. You know, like Oh, I learned how to 310 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.559 edit, I learned how to produce and write show notes and begin timeline and 311 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.559 time frames and you know all this kind of stuff. So so, man, 312 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.079 that's good. For Good on you, and I think that's what some 313 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:44.359 creators listen to the show can take away as like maybe you do start a 314 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.279 show with your by yourself or with someone else, and maybe it does, 315 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.160 quote unquote, fail, but I don't really think you fail. I think 316 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:55.240 you just learn some man, take me into the second show and tell me 317 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:59.880 a little bit about it. Yeah, so I get out of here right. 318 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.960 I know I'm added this. You know this corporate marketing podcast that I 319 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:07.240 built that went on the back burner and everything, and they owed me two 320 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.880 hundred dollars and I just, you know, got out there. A year 321 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:12.240 later they ended up sending it to me. So I just thought that was 322 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:15.960 hilarious. But Anyway, so I'm back on my own right, and this 323 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.759 is March two thousand and twenty. So I said to myself, okay, 324 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:25.240 I'm gonna do this, I'm going to go full freelance again and see what 325 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.000 I can do. And so somebody called me out of the blue one day. 326 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.160 Had No idea how they got my number and we still don't know to 327 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.880 this day, and they were like hey, you're the podcast guy, come 328 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:36.960 on, we got this project for you. So, you know, long 329 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:40.799 story short, the hosts was a mentalist. He had been on Jackass to 330 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:44.759 Ellen show, like he was kind of like a minor celebrity to so to 331 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.960 say. And all of his guests that were lined up were all celebrities to 332 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.279 like most of them were like a or like blest c list celebrities, you 333 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:57.200 know, Gary Busey, Tony Lo Bianco, Vernon Davis, WHO's an NFL 334 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:02.039 player, Nick Diaz from the UFC. I mean like it was stacked. 335 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.480 Do this podcast was sacked. Wow. And Yeah, yeah, so by 336 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:10.240 any me any measures like that, you would buy anybody's opinion. This thing, 337 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:11.839 once again, on paper, should have been the most one of those 338 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:17.359 successful podcast right. So we get to like release day, we released the 339 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:22.440 show and they're like once again, or you concerned with the numbers? I'm 340 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:25.960 like, Dude, I'm the Audio Guy, I don't do numbers. Like, 341 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.559 where's your marketing budget? You know, and this was a hundred million 342 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:33.680 dollar company paying for this. Oh my God, and and but the thing 343 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:34.960 is, dude, they did door to door sales, so they had no 344 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:40.440 idea. They never did marketing they were door to door to door sales company, 345 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.400 you know, top line, a hundred million dollars a year, like 346 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:47.480 they don't know marketing, they've never had all are all their content was internal. 347 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.759 It was like internal, you know, showcases and stuff for their employees. 348 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:53.440 That was like just to pump them up and want more people to do 349 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:57.240 doortodoor sales. So they took that same mindset to a podcast, where it's 350 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.319 all about the market, it's all about the listeners, it's all about creating 351 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.960 a community, and they had no idea. So that just proved to me 352 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.480 as well that like, okay, so you can be a company with no 353 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:11.880 money that's going bankrupt and and and not know how to do this, or 354 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.359 you can be a company with all the money in the world and not know 355 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:19.559 how to do this. So I got out of those two podcasts right and 356 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:23.319 I realize that this something needs to change. I neither need to change who 357 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.240 I'm working with or change how I'm working with them, you know. So 358 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:33.440 that's kind of that experience was extremely valuable to me. So was was that 359 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:36.400 the moment that you're kind of like, man, I might just God be 360 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.480 a mechanic, or or or did you have that moment or we like no, 361 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.440 I'm going to push through, or were you like you know what? 362 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.279 Because really, if I were you, I would probably be like man, 363 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.960 I've worked for two major companies here, one that I didn't know it was 364 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.200 going to go bankrupt, one has millions of dollars and I can't get either 365 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.920 all of these projects to work. Like I'm going to go back and do 366 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:57.720 what I know best and work on cars. Did you have those thoughts at 367 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:02.880 all? It's like that going to your mind, I pride. Yeah, 368 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.079 there's actually a moment when that first company asked me to come back, I 369 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:10.279 guess after they went bankrupt and then started up again, and it was like 370 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.480 three hundred dollars a week. Dude, and right roommate. I remember asking 371 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:17.359 him at the time and he was like yeah, just take it, man, 372 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:18.720 like you. All you have to do is like ten hours a week. 373 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.720 And my roommate who said that works for me now. So it's just, 374 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.400 you know, crazy and he just, you know, like he's we're 375 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.359 definitely a beginning. We're starting out. You know, there's not out like 376 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.240 we had some multimillion dollar company now, but anyway, he's like a massive 377 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:36.799 part of what I'm doing now and he was just looking at for my best 378 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.799 interest, right. But yeah, I mean my mindset was, you know, 379 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:42.240 I'd live in my car for this shit, you know. So, 380 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:47.359 like, I don't I just know, like I actually was a mechanic after 381 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:51.240 that part time. You know, I did that to pay the bills on 382 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.279 and off for, you know, three to five years. Went Back to 383 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.559 the shop that I started at. So yeah, I actually had a part 384 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.839 time gigs like in and out. But I'm also a wedding DJ, so 385 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:03.480 I always I had that on the side as well. So I always had 386 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.640 ways to get by and squeeze by. I don't spend money on things, 387 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.720 I only reinvest it in the business, so I can scrape by really easily. 388 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.960 So I just figured, Shit, dude, if I got to like, 389 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:15.920 you know, go sell cars or like go do uber something, I 390 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.000 probably would if I had to, but I figure I could sell beats or 391 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.920 I could hustle or something like that. So I was never going to go 392 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.599 back to anything full time. No, no way. That's what I always 393 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:27.880 tell people that, like Oh, you had a body to do this thing 394 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:32.920 forever, like because I had a teacher printing business for nearly ten years before 395 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:36.920 the pandemic. In the pandemic was like you're done, and I didn't really 396 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:37.880 you know, as it's a place where I was like man, I really 397 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:42.279 want to do this business forever. And then, similar to you, man, 398 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.720 I was in podcast seem like as a hobby. Was Make I don't 399 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.000 think I was making money at that point with it, but I was just 400 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.680 in it as a hobby, as a as a host and having a lot 401 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.039 of fun. And then, you know, somebody said Hey, can you 402 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.599 help me and I'm like sure, I can help and then my teacher business 403 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.119 went away during the pandemic and I'm like, Oh, I can help a 404 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.240 lot of people. So I started helping them and then I learned what I 405 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.319 was good at, and what I was good at was teach people on to 406 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.440 monetize. So I kind of, you know, pivoted just to that. 407 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.480 But I'm with you, man. I will work. I told some by 408 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.519 the other day. I'm like, Dude, I will work twenty hours, 409 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.279 seven days a week. So I don't want to work forty four anybody else, 410 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.720 because I just want the freedom to do what I want to do, 411 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.599 when I want to do it, how I want to do it, and 412 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.519 being a creator, and this kind of the thing too, man. I 413 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.920 Like I want people to understand guys like you and I, like we're still 414 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.640 hustling and if we have to, we will go do a part time job 415 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:38.440 or we will do whatever it takes to make ends meet. And it's not 416 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.160 just hey, it all goes pretty and and all that stuff. And there 417 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.359 are times where I wake up and I go, oh, man, I 418 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.000 could just go work for the and I've had job offers there, like once 419 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.200 you come to all our medium like I could do that. I can make 420 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:53.640 fifty, sixty Geez insurance, like my kid would be happy and my wife 421 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.880 would be super happy. And know, was like, I could just do 422 00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.400 that, but I know I'm going to rot in that office chair and I'm 423 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:03.279 going to die doing something for somebody else. So you share that same like 424 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.440 feeling when you think about it? Oh Man, yeah, and like, 425 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.480 Dude, there's months I'm in the negatives, you know, like this business 426 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.599 isn't, this isn't there's no glory to this, you know, and right, 427 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.920 and being a boss is, like I told you. I'm like it's 428 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.880 probably like you just don't do it. Like I don't want to discourage people, 429 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.920 but what I'm saying is like, if you value any of the stuff 430 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:29.279 that you're normal, like nine to five existence gives you, then just stick 431 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:33.000 with that. Like, if you're not willing to reverse everything, then then 432 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.240 don't do it, because every single thing is going to get flipped on its 433 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.240 head. Your family relationship, your front relationship with your friends, you know, 434 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.400 like your relationship with your co workers, your relationship with your clients, 435 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:49.200 your relationship with with life itself, your time management, your fitness, your 436 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.720 health, your food, like everything is going to change. You know so, 437 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.279 and it's all influx in some days are on top of the world, 438 00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:57.759 in the next day you want to go back to that nine hundred twenty five 439 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:00.319 right. So, dude, I live that. I fucking I'm sorry, 440 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.599 I don't know if I'm laughing. person. You're five, man, you're 441 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:04.599 fine, no problem. Now, I'm with you, you know. And 442 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:08.079 it is that and I always see those little entrepreneur graphs where it's like, 443 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.440 you know, you do a deal, you're like go but the mountain, 444 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.640 then the next day you're down and it is that kind of emotional roller coaster. 445 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.440 Then I think that being a creator on top of it, like we're 446 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:23.000 kind of built emotionally driven anyway. So then it's even more you know I 447 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.200 am anyway. So it's then it's even more of an impact of like drama 448 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.000 in my mind of like Hey, can I actually do this or whatever. 449 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.519 So we got a couple people saying hello in the chat here. We got 450 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:37.599 Chrisvagalio, well said, and then monty weaver, always supporting the show. 451 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.839 So appreciate you guys. You gets people ever here on clubhouse with us as 452 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.720 well, and we are going to open this up for a Qa here in 453 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.759 a little bit. So, man, then you kind of got into it 454 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:48.559 and you're like, all right, I'm going to work on my own. 455 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.799 I'm not going to go work for anymore companies, I'm going to go after 456 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.960 this, this podcast production. What was the system that you used to bring 457 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.599 on, because I know you've helped over like maybe almost three dozen clients now 458 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.039 launch their message to the world. So what was the attractant to you versus 459 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:11.519 anyone else? Oh, full relationships. It was just people that I knew 460 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.799 and so on. That first company that I work for, that first podcast, 461 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.799 that where the company went bankrupt. They had me on Linkedin and they 462 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.839 told me that you got to go on Linkedin. We got to use it 463 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.920 to make sales, and thank God that they had me go on Linkedin because 464 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:30.359 once I left I had about five hundred connections on Linkedin and all I did 465 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.000 was start going. I went on Linkedin and I start messaging people. Hey, 466 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.119 I help people. I'm at trying to start to help people make podcast 467 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.240 if you're interested in podcasting, I'll help you for free, and that's I 468 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.119 did that probably with twenty or thirty people, and from there people started asking 469 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.599 me to edit their shows or to consult for them. I didn't charge for 470 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:56.359 consulting until two and a half years in, and so now it's just it's 471 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.480 or you know, back then it was just that networking and now I've just 472 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.960 created a system to for that networking to scale. And obviously I still talk 473 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.240 to every single person. I have people that that you know, sometimes send 474 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.960 out messages or automated emails and stuff, but like, I've relationships with hundreds 475 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.559 of people from my networking on there. So instagram, I was doing my 476 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.359 own thing on there in terms of my music and my personal podcast, so 477 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.920 I could go into that. I still make content there and that's where a 478 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.599 lot of my audience lives. But, dude, I was on Linkedin. 479 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:32.640 I've probably done linked in. First, I did it probably six hours a 480 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.200 day for six months and now I've done it two hours a day at least 481 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.000 for probably two years. So that's where I developed all those clients. Hell 482 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.599 Yeah, so what are you doing on Linkedin for two hours a day? 483 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.359 What does that look like? Oh, I could fill it with eight hours, 484 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.000 dude, if I wanted to. But so this is what I do 485 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.400 in the morning. I go on. The first thing I do, my 486 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.759 first work for the day is checking my slack and just checking in, you 487 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.079 know, making sure what the clients are saying with the team saying, and 488 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.799 then I start on Linkedin. I make a post every day. It's rare 489 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.519 that I prepare the post. I usually write every morning. I just write 490 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.839 the post right down. People tell you to prepare, you know, like 491 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.400 you're going to do with video clips or something. I just do it my 492 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.160 way. So I make my post, I post it and then I have 493 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.759 a system for engaging with people. So I engage on certain people's post, 494 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:21.759 certain influencers post, and I have a comment marketing strategy. So, say 495 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.720 Gary V's post, for example. You probably familiar with Gary v every day. 496 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.799 You can go to any of his previous five to ten linkedin posts and 497 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.960 I either myself from my partner have a top comment on that post because we 498 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.720 know what to do. That top comment brings us hundreds or thousands of people 499 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.720 to my profile. So that's just a portion of the system that we created 500 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.359 that I actually use somebody else's content system. His name is Justin. Well, 501 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.720 she has a linkedin course. That's pretty solid. I basically took an 502 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.799 amalgamation of what he did and then what we're doing. I learned the Gary 503 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.359 v comment marketing thing from this girl named Holataja. She runs young and profiting 504 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.319 of really very successful podcast. So it's been it's been years of trying to 505 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.240 figure this out, but that's kind of a glimpse into my system. That's 506 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.839 awesome. And is this the same system that you teach other podcasters when they 507 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.440 come on and work with you? Is that a part of the program? 508 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:14.799 You know, we do. Most of the kind of promotion that we do 509 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.279 is to get my number one goal for a lot of these podcasters coming in 510 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:23.079 is get as much of your current audience to become your podcast audience. Right. 511 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.240 So most of them are already creating on Linkedin, but some of them 512 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.039 do what we do on Linkedin on facebook or maybe on these other platforms. 513 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:37.079 So I don't do a linkedin deep dive with clients unless they like asked for 514 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:38.839 it. So I'm and I'll usually guide them to one of these courses, 515 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.720 but we cover kind of fundamentals of promotion and then hey, if they want 516 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.359 to go deep on Linkedin, we can definitely go there. But I do 517 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.119 separate linkedin consulting just from people who ask. I don't like advertise it, 518 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.599 but I've done that a few times now. All right, cool, yeah, 519 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:53.880 man, I's I just like, you know what, because I just 520 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.000 started doing content on Linkedin, which is this live show right now. I 521 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.319 like maybe started yesterday because I forgot, because I like to go live, 522 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:03.079 and then they're like, oh, yeah, you can go live in like 523 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.640 five years from now, and so then they finally let me have access and 524 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.079 I forgot all about it. So anyway, yeah, and you know the 525 00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.960 thing with that is that's different. Started to jump in there, but I 526 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.920 get people to know this. This is probably the number one thing you should 527 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.759 know is that you can post on facebook. Doesn't really care how many people's 528 00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:25.519 post you comment on. So, meaning if I post something that people on 529 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:30.039 facebook like, it will get seen like if it's good. On linkedin it 530 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.279 much harder to do that. And on Linkedin it's more of a trade. 531 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.759 It's more of you put the time in, you engage with people, you 532 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.920 comment and then you get rewarded for that. So I just want to set 533 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.680 that tone for people, like if you're not going to put the work in 534 00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.079 on Linkedin, just you know, just know that you're not going to get 535 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.480 the results, and at least Im from my experience. So I'll say this 536 00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.960 might this will be my last linkedin question and maybe I'll go offline with you 537 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.920 about my curiosity. So you're saying if I go on Linkedin and I'm getting 538 00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:02.400 on here and I go to knee or Kendrick or David or Joseph or Greg's 539 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.119 Linkedin that's listening over here on clubhouse and I engage with them, than Linkedin, 540 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.039 a Linkedin's algorithm says, oh, hey, you're a part of the 541 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.440 community, so now I'm going to bump your your content, or is it 542 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.599 just bumping your what does that? I mean? What? I don't yeah, 543 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.839 can you dive into that a little bit, because that's like a pretty 544 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:27.799 easy thing to do to get rewarded in I guess whatever. Okay, anyway, 545 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.440 you got my question. I'm I'm gonna let you know. It's complicated. 546 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.240 No, you're good, it's complete. It's annoying. So I kind 547 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.519 of I'll start with this. If you if somebody comments on your post right, 548 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:45.400 people who are connected with them will see your post because it'll say billy 549 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:52.279 commented on Ryan's post. So now your post gets in front of all of 550 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.319 the people who commented. Audience. Wow. So that how post gets seen, 551 00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.720 right. So, and it this happens on facebook a little bit too, 552 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.680 but it's not the same algorithm. I don't know how the Algorithm works 553 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.279 on Linkedin time of day that you post, the amount of words, not 554 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.240 using links, putting links in the comments instead, like Emoji's. No, 555 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.759 like, I'm telling you this. It goes really deep, but I can 556 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:22.400 guarantee you that you will see guaranteed growth and reach if you spend ninety five 557 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.519 percent of your time engaging with other people and five percent of your time posting. 558 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.759 All right, man, that's good. That's good tip right there. 559 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.759 Ninety five percent of your time engaging, five percent of just posting with your 560 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.640 own content. And I know a guy, Kevin Schmidlin, I believe it 561 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.359 is how I says last name. He's in the Philly area. Had had 562 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:45.119 a big podcast called feeling. WHO. Yes, he's he helps people launch 563 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.880 podcast right, I think so. But he has this daily targeted engagement thing 564 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.839 that he's talking about on Instagram or whatever. And and so, yeah, 565 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.400 actually got to interview them, editing and put out with him. But yeah, 566 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.039 man, he's you know, crushes it with that stuff too. So 567 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.720 really interesting about about Linkedin, and that is the thing, like don't quit. 568 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.119 Don't quit on linked an either. Keep going. And this is the 569 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.039 whole thing, is like don't quit the don't quit show because it's going to 570 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.840 pay off for you in the law run. If I would have quit six 571 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.079 months and dude, I wouldn't. And I have five thousand connections on there. 572 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:21.800 It's not I'm not an influencer like these. There's people that have a 573 00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.960 million, right. But people come to me now and are like hey, 574 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.639 man, you're like you know, you have this audience on Linkedin. I'm 575 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.639 like, I don't even look at it like that, like I still just 576 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:31.360 see my off as the guy with like a few thousand connections, you know. 577 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.360 Yeah, but then people start. It gives you authority like I have, 578 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.400 you know, authors, celebrities, people who have been on you know, 579 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.440 you name it, television show on network television reaching out to me, 580 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:46.880 Hey, I want to start my podcast, because they don't even know me, 581 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.639 you know, just by my presence on there. So yeah, man, 582 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.679 it's the dividends payoff, but you got to do that work. Yeah, 583 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:58.119 man, well, good on you for not quitting. And I think 584 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.440 you know, people listen to this or watching it, it's like this is 585 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.039 the game of being a content creator, if you want to be a content 586 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:06.920 creator for a living. Now, if you just want to do fun or 587 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.840 whatever. But I think when you're in the position that you're and I are 588 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:13.320 in, where we're going, hey, we're sending out to do this for 589 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.519 a living, you know, like to make money to do all those things, 590 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.760 I think it's really important to have that game plan. But be willing 591 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.480 to pivot, be willing to go eat dirt for, you know, a 592 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.639 little while to get your feet in the ground. Be Willing to not drink 593 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:32.159 the eight dollar cup of coffee and drink the Nasty Folders Cup or whatever you 594 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.920 maybe that's right here, my guy that folders. Baby, get that photo. 595 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.000 I'm over here drinking maven coffee. I don't need to where minds that. 596 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.920 Hey, shout out to Mavin coffee on the sponsor right there. That's 597 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.280 we got good. Yeah, I mean they're awesome to they're from Columbia. 598 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.199 I mean, dude, I was not a coffee drinker. I was actually 599 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.400 anti coffee. They're like, let us make you a lot toe see what 600 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.800 you think about it. I took three sips and I'm like this is dope. 601 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.519 So I haven't turned back since then. That was a couple of years 602 00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.559 ago. Man. Is there any other tips as far as like things that 603 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.039 you do? Do you wake up in the morning? Go don't quit, 604 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:07.800 man, don't quit. Don't quick. I mean what was the thing that 605 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.079 you know you do as an entrepreneur to keep yourself motivated? or You like 606 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.039 tracking wins or metrics, or how do you why do you get, you 607 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.000 know, inspire yourself as as an entrepreneur, as a content career? I 608 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:23.199 just watch Dave and Gogat, David Goggins videos over and over again on instagram. 609 00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.239 I don't know if you know who I'm referring to, but yeah, 610 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.760 man, now, man, I have a I have a routine that I 611 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.039 stick to and really, I think this is the this is kind of how 612 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.440 I look at it. I've spent the last like five years really focusing on 613 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:44.679 selfdevelopment and routines and trying to be the best people say, be the best 614 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.239 version of themselves. Like, I'm not talking really for other people, I'm 615 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.679 talking like how can I just stay discipline, stay motivated, stay on track, 616 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:58.000 stay selfaware and really improve on these on these higher level skills? So 617 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.679 I started meditating like four years ago. It's something I do every day, 618 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.880 five days a week, four days a week. Like I look at all 619 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:09.679 of these habits as plut as kind of additions, right, so every day 620 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.400 I can sit down and work and I'm at a hundred percent, right, 621 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.000 like I don't want to have a habit that that try that gets me from 622 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.559 eighty to a hundred percent, because that would mean that I would have to 623 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.920 do it, so I would then be relying on that thing. So all 624 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.719 of my habits help me, like they give me an edge, right, 625 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.199 they give me they help me in some way, but I don't like to 626 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.800 get completely tied to them, like to the fact to the point that like 627 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.760 I need to do them all the time or no matter what, or else 628 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.400 I'll feel different or act different. so meditation has been key with me, 629 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.559 just walking, and then just to could the consistent exercise. I've been just 630 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.159 like lifting weights and working out for since I was like fifteen, mant. 631 00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:53.400 So I've been staying on that and and really just developing those consistent habits that 632 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.280 work for me. I've done everything. I've done early morning workouts, I've 633 00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.159 done late workouts, I've done cold showers, I've done journaling, I've done, 634 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.679 you know everything. I have this notebook I used to write down like 635 00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.880 how I felt about my day and track that. I don't do that anymore. 636 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.559 Like I've probably ninety nine percent of the things I've tried I don't do, 637 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.000 but I've just stuck with the ones that that work for me. So, 638 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.719 you know, it's always tough, but but the number one thing that 639 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.719 I'm focused on lately, especially managing a team, is just managing emotions and 640 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.840 just being able to respond to something instead of react to it, and so 641 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.519 that's been like a lot of my focus lately because, you know, managing 642 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.960 a team and a company's hard man you man know, you know, a 643 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.440 couple takeaways from what you said. One is like doing the elementary things consistently. 644 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.000 I think is what make to win at the end of the day. 645 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.400 Someone told me that a long time ago. They told me told me two 646 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.639 things you said. One, it's quality over quantity, and then, too, 647 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.000 it's which I kind of still believe that to a certain extent. I 648 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.280 mean believe there's Times unique quality quantity just to kind of get ramped up and 649 00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.519 get your systems in place. But once you kind of hit that to like 650 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:02.840 okay, now let's work on, you know, quality over quantity. And 651 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.599 then the other thing is like, even in your daily routines, you're like, 652 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:08.960 man, I've tried some stuff, a lot of stuff I've tried. 653 00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:14.119 I'm not, you know, kept and I think there's like seasons for everything 654 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.719 as creators and if you put yourself in this box and really as people and 655 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.679 entrepreneurs in general, if I said, Hey, what I did five years 656 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.800 ago I still have to do today, I would probably be real up crap 657 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.119 creek without a paddle because I would still be holding onto something that just not 658 00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.079 working. Now it's just not working. So I love it that you're talking 659 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:36.880 about the pivot and going okay, Cooliman. I do this for six months 660 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.199 or three months or thirty days to get this habit in the place or whatever, 661 00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.199 but then I may not ever do it again. And so yeah, 662 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.119 man, I love that you brought that up because I think it's I think 663 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:51.280 sometimes it's creators. We get married to projects, we get married to systems, 664 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.239 we get married to, you know, like the way we did it 665 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.480 or way someone else does it and tells us how to do it. So 666 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.800 yeah, man, high five for bringing that in. And then also, 667 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.159 real quick of Phil. He'll over here in club house says Hey, who's 668 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:08.639 your guest? Standard was Ryan Sullivan with podcast principles. So you can go 669 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.239 check them out and I tagged a link over here on clubhouse as well. 670 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.480 You can go to that link in all the information is there and then once 671 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.599 I publish the episode to the arts as feed, all that stuff will live 672 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.760 there as well. So Ryan, real quick, man, before we dip 673 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.679 out. And by the way, if anybody has any questions, feel free 674 00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:27.800 to drop him in the chat. If you're on club house, raise your 675 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.960 hand. If you're on bullhorn, call in chat questions boxes there and we 676 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.159 can answer those for you. But before we dip out. Is there anything 677 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.400 else that we haven't talked about that motivate you not to quit? You want 678 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.400 to share it, inspire this audience of creators with yeah, I'll say. 679 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:51.199 Just know why you're doing it. And this sounds so simple, and this 680 00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.480 is probably something you've talked about before, but when you are up late making 681 00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.920 that video clip for your podcast, when you're doing that edit that you know 682 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.840 your computer died and now you got to edit it all over again, you 683 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:09.360 know when you're in those moments that everything seems to just really suck. You 684 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:15.400 have to think, you have to understand the bigger picture of what you're doing, 685 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.719 and everything that's worth doing is worth of doing the right way the first 686 00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:23.920 time, if that's possible. So I just think that if you don't have 687 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:30.679 most people will stop, I think because they're not. It's not they can't, 688 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:31.800 they have nothing to go to to be like, Oh, yeah, 689 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.599 that's why I do it, like I wrote it down, you know, 690 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.400 like now I got to do it because I always do it, because this 691 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:44.800 is why. So I think just making that evident for yourself is is is 692 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.480 important, man, and I think that it sounds a little fluffy, but 693 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.679 I really think that that's a big reason why people stop is because a lot 694 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:58.079 of people just do and they don't know why they do. So that's good, 695 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.920 man. Nope, know the why and why you do stuff, man, 696 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.559 man, love that. I don't think you can get better advice than 697 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.400 that. Like, know your why and it's going to motivate you and drive 698 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.239 you right. It's like people ask me, like, dude, I just 699 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.199 sort a daily show about creators. I'm like because I want to build a 700 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:17.199 Badass community of creators who inspire each other and encourage each other help each other. 701 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.360 Like I want to win and I want to surround myself with people who 702 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.440 want to win, and if I got to create a daily show to keep 703 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:30.440 the conversation going and keep people lit about creating and motivation and inspiration all that, 704 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.000 then that's what I'm going to do. And that's why every night, 705 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.360 when my kid goes to bed and my wife goes to bed, guess what 706 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.679 I'm doing? I'm putting together a show for tomorrow. And so you know, 707 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.079 it's that's the reason why and that's the whole motivation is, like I 708 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.159 want to build this awesome community of creators that you know when I'm down and 709 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.480 out. They're going to pick me up and vice versa. So it's it's 710 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.880 pretty dope. So yeah, this is the beginning stages of that and in 711 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.239 this project. So, man, Ryan, I really appreciate you coming in. 712 00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:00.079 I'm going to jump over some chats real quick. Make sure no one 713 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.639 needs anything. Phil Hill says Hello Ryan. So feels a good dude when 714 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.320 he's up. Oh, appreciate you tuning in, man. Yeah, man, 715 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.840 he's a live streamer on over on Amazon. So we got live streamers, 716 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.400 we got podcasters, we got authors and teachers, all kinds of people 717 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.360 in this community, man. So we really like it. But do really 718 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.719 appreciate you coming in. I'm going to check a couple other spots here before 719 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.760 I let you go. Just make sure we don't have any questions. Well, 720 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:29.159 thank you so much for having me, man, this is good time. 721 00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:31.840 I really appreciate your content, your podcast. I'm going to dive into 722 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.239 that Amazon episode two, because I saw that and I didn't I wasn't able 723 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.480 to listen to it yet. So that's that's interesting to me. And that 724 00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:43.000 contest that you mentioned too, I'm a look into it. I'll look into 725 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.360 the fine print though. What a great tip because I've signed up for for 726 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.920 rap showcases and stuff like that and then they like, you know, own 727 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.480 half your life for like half your life or something like that. So you 728 00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.880 never know, man, but billy, thank you so much, man. 729 00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:59.599 You're doing some great work here and especially for the podcast community, and the 730 00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.760 good thing about this is that everybody's on the same page in this community, 731 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.280 man, just supporting each other. So I appreciate you being being a part 732 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.800 of that and having me on. Yeah, man, you as well. 733 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.320 We'll stay connected. We'll have you back on and talk about some other fun 734 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.199 stuff as well. So I really appreciate your Ryan. And all right, 735 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.239 guys, that is that's a rap for today's episode of creating for daily. 736 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.239 They're creating daily, not creating for daily, creating daily. Once again, 737 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.320 you can check it out creating daily dot live. So if you're if you 738 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.119 need any show links from today, go to that and go to the live 739 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.920 show tab. If you want to be a guest on the show, I'm 740 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:32.599 doing these five days a week, Monday through Friday, at too bem eastern 741 00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.079 time, as long as the world and all the stars aligned, and let 742 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.760 me do that. If you want to be a guest, if your content 743 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:44.880 creator or your Creator and some facet that's probably more around podcasting and live streaming, 744 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.320 you know, content creation, social media, things like that. If 745 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.440 you want to come on and you get a store to share or you get 746 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.719 some tips of tricks and you want to build an episode together, would love 747 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:58.400 to do that. Reach out to me. Go to creating daily dot live 748 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.519 and just go to contact and you can shoot me a message there and we'll 749 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:06.079 get the conversation started and join us. Tomorrow. I'm going to we're not 750 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.039 going to have a guest on, but I'm going to have a guest co 751 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.760 hosted meadows. Some of you of here on clubhouse know him, maybe some 752 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:14.119 of you on my live stream. He's been on with me before. But 753 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:15.360 we're going to recap the week. We're going to have a lot of funs. 754 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:20.719 Can Be Fryationanigan's, so it's long as I get to verbally abuse him 755 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.199 a few times I'll be happy. But bring your takeaways from the week, 756 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:28.800 if you've been listening to to all the episodes, bring some takeaways. I'd 757 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.199 love to hear it. Would love to get some feedback on our first official 758 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:37.159 week of creating daily, creating five shows in one week, which is pretty 759 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.440 fun. If you have any questions about my experience on that, so free 760 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.119 to ask me as well and get in touch. And what a shout out 761 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.760 to my friend knee. I believe knee has been on every single episode in 762 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:51.039 the audience, supporting in the back channel Chat. So really appreciate that, 763 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.360 man. That's what community is all about. I know not not that everyone 764 00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.960 can do that, but really appreciate need doing that. So until tomorrow. 765 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.800 I'll see you tomorrow to PM Eastern time. Go here the record button, 766 00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.880 go create something great, go inspire somebody and just remember your message matters. 767 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.239 So don't quit because somebody else needs you. You heard it today. Ryan 768 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.760 has literally helped over three dozen people launch a podcast and get their message out 769 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.719 to the world. However, he could have quit and just went to the 770 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:17.400 other way in, those people would still be struggling trying to get their content 771 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.199 out. So don't give up on yourself, don't give up on others, 772 00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.360 because people need to hear you. All Right, talk to you soon. 773 00:46:29.800 --> I