March 24, 2022

The Power of Not Quitting w/ Ryan Sullivan

The Power of Not Quitting w/ Ryan Sullivan

We've all been there on the edge, ready to throw in the towel, but don't quit, someone else needs you. Here is the story of one creator who decided to press through and now has helped dozens of others get their messages to the world.

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Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.919 Now here's something we hope you really like. You're listening to creating daily, 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.359 there's something wrong with you. You know that, because you and I are 3 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:12.279 like a mullet is the is the business. So he's the front part of 4 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:15.800 the haircut and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're hilarious. 5 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:22.079 Speaks to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. All right, 6 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:25.920 what's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. My 7 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:30.320 name is Billy Thorpe. I'm your host and all the time rushing around doing 8 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:33.320 all kinds of crazy stuff right before the show. But welcome to the PODCAST. 9 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:35.880 We've never been here before, then thanks for coming. If you've been 10 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.399 here, thanks for coming back. I don't know why you're back, but 11 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.520 you're here. So we're gonna have a lot of fun and once again this 12 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:45.880 show is all about bringing on other creators to talk about the Creator Journey. 13 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.679 So today I'm going to be joined here in a few minutes by my friend, 14 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:52.560 Ryan Sullivan, my new friend. We literally just met moments ago. 15 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:58.159 He is a podcaster, podcast producer and was on the verge of quitting and 16 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.960 then made a little turn around. So I want to talk about that perseverance 17 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.319 as a content creator, because there's a lot of stuff we're doing and and 18 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.120 I think it's good to get a perspective from somebody who, like him, 19 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.599 like myself, who've wanted to quit price several times, maybe even several times 20 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:12.920 this week, but we haven't. So we want to share some of their 21 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:18.359 strategies of how we overcome, you know, all those things that make you 22 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:21.319 want to quit. But before we do, as you know, we got 23 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:26.359 some highlights, creator highlights. New Cooking necessary and new assembly required. It's 24 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.239 got to be fun, all right, it's going to be Funky, and 25 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:36.519 I want to just shout out my friends over maving coffeecom. This is the 26 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:40.200 best coffee in the world. Literally, it's award winning microlots. They're hand 27 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:45.640 pick by the Maven team and include step by step brewing instructions to ensure you 28 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.079 have an exceptionable, exceptionable, Exceptional Cup of coffee. So if you're a 29 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.680 coffee fan, want you, however, Maven coffeecom and check those guys out. 30 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:59.439 I have this imported to Puerto Rico every single month because it's amazing and 31 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.760 no offense to my Puerto Rican friends, but your coffee just doesn't really that 32 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:06.359 great. Anyway. CLEMMY COFFEES is awesome to go to check that out. 33 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:09.759 And then our creator highlight today is my friend Manny Cobo. Now, some 34 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:15.319 of you've made seen him on the voice. He is award winning music photographer. 35 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.400 I mean literally, this guy's like the definition of Creator. He's a 36 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:24.240 photographer, live streamer, podcaster, Youtuber, I mean he is doing everything 37 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:29.879 and he's had one heck of a year. Last year a storm came through 38 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.039 up in New Jersey. Why? I mean completely wiped him out, flooded 39 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:38.680 his house, flooded his recording studio, podcast studio, all the camera gear, 40 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:40.960 all that kind of stuff. And I sit there, I watched it, 41 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:45.400 you know, one phone calls from him and just keep me in the 42 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:50.400 loop. And then also just kind of saw it go down on instagram and 43 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.400 and just watched him his whole house, basically ruined, his studio, all 44 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.520 this stuff. But yet he re you know, got back on his feet 45 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:00.199 again start rebuilding it and literally did it with a smile on his face. 46 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:05.479 I couldn't believe it. He's easily one of the nicest guys I've ever met 47 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:09.439 and just persevered and talk about a creator not wanting to quit. Many of 48 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.000 us would have thrown into the towel, but he made it through there. 49 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:15.120 So one to give him a shout out. So be sure once you gotta 50 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:19.800 go to the slide. If you're watching many Cobbo, the many Cobbo on 51 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.199 Instagram, go follow him. You can go check out all the stuff he's 52 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:25.719 doing. He's doing a lot of stuff. Super Multihy Creator, so we 53 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:31.400 appreciate him always being a blessing to the community. So it's always awesome. 54 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:36.319 All right. Now let's get into a little bit of podcasting news. That's 55 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:40.520 news to me creating daily. All Right, I get my podcast news from 56 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:44.000 Pod News. I think you pod news. If you guys don't follow them, 57 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.199 be sure to do that and follow their podcast. But they announced yesterday 58 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:52.560 that a company called PR X, which is one of the world's leading podcast 59 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.680 publishing companies, announced that they're going to the partner with google to do this 60 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:02.199 Google podcast creator program so it's basically like a podcast accelerator for audio producers all 61 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.800 around the world and Applications Open on March twenty nine. So if you want 62 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:09.439 to be a part of that and they close on April twenty four, and 63 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.599 some of the things that are included, or twenty weeks of intensive training, 64 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:16.160 which is pretty crazy. Throughout the training program teams will be guided through Pitch 65 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:20.600 Prep, you know, pitch decks, production, marketing, monetization, audio, 66 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.439 all those fun things, and that the end of the program they're going 67 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.480 to have like a I don't know what you call it, like a showcase, 68 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:30.120 I guess, a showcase of the work they're going to get up up 69 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.959 to Twentyzero funding for production costs, as well Travel Rey embursements, oneone coaching, 70 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:39.079 all the kind of stuff, and then also access to like a network 71 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:44.079 of other content creators and podcasters and that kind of thing. So pretty cool. 72 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.319 If you're going to go sign up for that. I would just say 73 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.639 go readefine details. I know a lot of friends of mine have went to 74 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:55.120 competition style things and didn't sign the contract because of what was in the contracts. 75 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.079 Make sure you just double check that and protect yourself as a creator. 76 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:02.240 And I conspiracy theorist, but there's big companies doing these things for a reason. 77 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.800 Maybe they're trying to get your ideas. All right, put on your 78 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:09.199 Ti'm going to put my tin hat back in the box now and invite my 79 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:14.439 friend Ryan Sullivan on the show and let's get into this podcast. Man, 80 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.120 what's going on, Ryan? How are you? Man? Hey, I'm 81 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.000 good, man, doing well. How are you? Man? I'm doing 82 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:26.000 good. I am better. decided to be here brother podcast. Yeah, 83 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:29.720 man, I'm doing good. I'm better now that that we're here, that 84 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.040 we're recording, and I think you and I both talked about it before the 85 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.800 show. Maybe both of US struggle with a little bit Internet problems. So 86 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:43.040 hopefully this thing will stay together. He got to keep the faith, man. 87 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.839 That's really you know, there's a few, there's a lot of things 88 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.399 you can't control, and I talked about that a lot when I, you 89 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.079 know, in my coaching programs with people and helping them start podcasts, you 90 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:54.519 know, and it's like what can we control, you know. So that's 91 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.759 one of those things. It is what it is. I Lost I lost 92 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.199 my audio the other day after my power went out while I was recording a 93 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.759 live podcast. So you know, I've everything has happened. That could happen 94 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:08.120 right, so probably to you too. Yeah, to yeah, if it's 95 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:11.279 going to happen, especially if it involves the Internet, that's always like. 96 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:15.199 That's like my cryptonied or whatever. So well, man, appreciate you coming 97 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.079 on here in a definitely want to talk about persevering through the creative process and 98 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.040 being a podcaster. But before we jump into it, man, you do 99 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:26.079 have a company called podcast principles. Are you guys are helping launch people, 100 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.759 you know, but podcast. So tell me a little bit about that before 101 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:32.000 we jump into how you got there. Yeah, sure, yeah, so 102 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:36.160 I'm the founder of podcast principles. We help people launched podcast, primarily without 103 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:41.720 wasting time. That is the my number one goal, because I spent four 104 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:45.439 years, you know, developing my podcast, stopping starting again. We'll go 105 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.720 into the story of that. But really what we do is create a systematize 106 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:54.240 process to launch your podcast, and I think a lot of you know really 107 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.759 the main question we get is like how do I do it? Should I 108 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.199 do it? As my idea good enough for people going to listen to it, 109 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.560 etc. So we just developed a system to do that over the course 110 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.639 of five calls in the beginning, and then we also do production for people's 111 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:11.120 podcast as well if that's something that they need. But all in all it's 112 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:16.439 a it's a onestop shop podcast launch system for personal brands we've worked with companies 113 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:19.680 and businesses before, but it's mostly, you know, so launentrepreneurs, solo 114 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:23.800 creators that want to have a system of ties and kind of coherent way to 115 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.839 start their podcast without any of the BS of searching thousands of hours on Google 116 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.680 and and Youtube. Man, I love it anytime you can cut the learning 117 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.480 curve down for somebody like that's value in itself, so that the fact that 118 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.920 you guys are not only going to do that help them get started, get 119 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.959 all their ideas together, put it out there, but then manage it form 120 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:44.399 as well or have that option. It's pretty cool. So, man, 121 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:46.199 you share a little bit of your story with me, and part of that 122 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:53.279 story is that you were a mechanic who went podcast. Right. Hopefully I 123 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.040 didn't lose you here, but so tell me. How how the world did 124 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:01.480 you go from mechanic to to podcaster to podcast producer? Yeah, well, 125 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.120 I'll start. You know where it started. So in my senior year of 126 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:11.360 high school I decided to quit sports and so I could work and I've realized 127 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.160 like the value and learning a skill. Luckily I realized that early on and 128 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:18.720 my dad had like had side jobs all throughout. You know, my childhood. 129 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.480 I was always helping him and he was basically all just working, you 130 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.560 know, all the time, and and whether it was his day job or 131 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.240 on the side. So I feel like I kind of picked up that hustle 132 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.759 and I wasn't a super competitive person. Almost just like the Camaraderie of sports, 133 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:37.000 but I didn't really it's not I wasn't terrible at them, but I 134 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.679 didn't like really excel at them to the point where I really like loved it. 135 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:41.679 So I think I just got to the point where I was just fed 136 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.879 up with coaches telling me what to do and I figured I'm just going to 137 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.679 go work and get a job. So I always liked cars. I ended 138 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.279 up going to a what was called Polytech, like a votex school, so 139 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.879 half of my day and in high school was that and then the other half 140 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.039 was just regular school. And at the same time I found I brought my 141 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.200 car to a shop and I walked in and they were like Hey, do 142 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.679 you want a job? Like I'm leaving like this kid that I had played 143 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:09.000 basketball with like twelve years earlier and a dude I knew nothing about. Like 144 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.600 I loved cars, like I had a passion for cars. My whole life, 145 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:13.720 but I knew nothing about fixing them. So I ended up just taking 146 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.960 that job and I ended up being a mechanic full time and part time to 147 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.960 at two different shops over the next like three and a half, four years 148 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.679 while I was in college. So that was kind of the start of the 149 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.440 mechanic thing. I mean, I could keep going into the how I got 150 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.480 into podcasting as well, but that was the mechanic portion. Yeah, man, 151 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:33.960 no, dude, no, I want to. I want to get 152 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:37.559 into that because I know you. You left that mechanic job, you're into 153 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.559 podcasting. So, yeah, lead me into how did you will get you 154 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.879 interested in podcasting? Why did you even get into the industry, like as 155 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:48.279 a podcaster? Did you go podcaster first or podcast producer? So I was 156 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.559 a podcaster first, and so what I'm actually also rapper, and that's what 157 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.759 this other logo is there too. been releasing music for like five years now. 158 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:01.240 And and so I had been in the audio world and like the music 159 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.080 world, and I always just thought a podcast was a cool idea. I 160 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.759 was a massive Joe Rogan fan from like two thousand and fourteen on. Just 161 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.840 love the medium, love the style of longform conversation and just figured hey, 162 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:13.399 might as well start. A few of my friends were like hey, man, 163 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.919 like we'd listened to it. So if I had a few people to 164 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:18.399 listen to it, that was enough for me to get started. I bought 165 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.320 this Webcam, I bought a USB microphone and I just got started. I 166 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.559 did two episodes by myself and what I would do is I had instant instagram 167 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:31.519 series every Monday called Monday thoughts, and I would say a minute to describe 168 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.480 a certain concept, whether it was decisionmaking or self improvement or whatever it was, 169 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.960 and so I really use the podcast to just expand on those concepts and 170 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.200 the first couple episodes got like hundreds of yews. I thought they were going 171 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.919 to get tens of us. So at that point I said, all right, 172 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.240 this is something I might as well keep going. I met somebody who 173 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.279 made six figures on the stock market when they were twenty one years old. 174 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.120 Immediately that day I turned it into an interview show and I bought another microphone 175 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:58.240 and now I've been interviewing people since two thousand and eighteen. So you know, 176 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.639 I changed the name, I rebranded it in the first in the first 177 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.879 year as well. So yeah, man, it was kind of that's kind 178 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:07.879 of how I got into podcasting. I just randomly started and then I had 179 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.159 been producing my own music on the side because I couldn't afford to buy music 180 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:18.200 to use for my wraps. So producing music led me to mixing audio and 181 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.960 I had a really yeah, yeah, so that's kind of how I got 182 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.440 into audio. So I had two great mentors. Add One mentor from music. 183 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.720 His name's beach links. He's work with Ditty, he's work with Action 184 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.639 Bronson. He had a really pretty prominent rap group here in the Phili area. 185 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:33.840 So DMD in one day he allowed me to come in the studio pay 186 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.399 for studio time and he was like my music mentor. Then I got hooked 187 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.759 up with a music studio later on and that was my audio engineering mentor. 188 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.960 So I in turned there for free creating content. I said Hey, man, 189 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.200 let me shoot videos on your on my phone, I'll edit them and 190 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.080 then you just let me sit there and ask you questions. So I had 191 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.519 those two mentors, one for music and one for audio engineering, and then 192 00:11:54.559 --> 00:12:00.639 I took that audio and engineering knowledge and I basically just started applying for for 193 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.360 podcast jobs and it's kind of funny how I got my first, you know, 194 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.159 podcast audio editing job, after after interning that studio. Man, but 195 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.720 I was just I was living off of savings and I had I remember I 196 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:13.519 had six hundred bucks, I think, in my back account was like the 197 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.320 was like when I got, when I got my first freelance job. It 198 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.679 took me three months to make eighty dollars. It's awesome, man. So 199 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.840 it's okay. So this dive into that because my wife and I were my 200 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.120 wife really she's a graphic designer. So same thing. So it's been in 201 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:33.360 freelance space for really, really long time, kind of fighting uphill battle against 202 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.559 idiot graphic designers who don't do it they say they're going to do. But 203 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.919 let's talk about that for a second because it might be people listening who were 204 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.360 like, Oh, I'm a podcaster, but I want to produce. I 205 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.240 love that part of you, know, editing and sitting back and help, 206 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:48.600 you know, helping people do this. Where did you go? Did you 207 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.960 go like to like fiver or like where did you go to find that first 208 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.279 job? I had somebody on my podcast named Tory grant and you can look 209 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:00.360 him up now. You're actually a really good skateboarder and he I had him 210 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.240 on my podcast. He was recommended by a friend of a friend and you 211 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.679 know, he came on the podcast and he talked about using up work to 212 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.559 yeah, basically quit his job. Right. So I'm like Hell Yeah, 213 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.960 Dude, I'm gonna try this, like, let's try it, let's see 214 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.639 what happens. Right. So I got on UPWORK. Like I said, 215 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.879 three months go by. Man, on my third month, somebody paid me 216 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.240 eighty dollars, wasn't even editing, to do a voiceover for a drone video 217 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:30.120 of a covered bridge in California, and that video is still up. That 218 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.519 was my first free lance job ever. You could not make this shit up, 219 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.879 man. That's perfect. Man. I love that story, Dude, 220 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.120 I love that story. So I guess it. But probably for you at 221 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.120 that moment as like an entrepreneur, as a creator, you're by like, 222 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:46.399 dude, this is awesome, man. I'm like, that's what I'm just 223 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:50.240 saying. Like some people, and and I could get into it, but 224 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.080 my first to podcast on paper like failed, like the first two podcasts that 225 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:56.799 I did for like companies like Ye, after that little eighty dollar job, 226 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.960 they, like on paper failed and like think about a dude, three months 227 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.960 in I make eighty bucks. Like my my dad's like, are you going 228 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.240 to go work at the shop again, like what's going on? Like he 229 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.399 didn't know what I was doing. But every day I was just copy and 230 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.639 pasting up work messages and just hitting people up and, you know, it 231 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.000 just and this was before I was on Linkedin and like built an audience on 232 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.440 there too, and I just didn't I had no idea what to do. 233 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.039 Dude. I just took with this guy said. He sent me his scripts. 234 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:24.840 I edited the scripts with my name and I'm and I just kept sending 235 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:30.600 out messages. But my first podcast is probably that one. Is Pretty interesting 236 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.039 because I was on upwork. I had no credits left on upwork man and 237 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:35.840 I'm like, you know, I'm not buying more credits. This sucks. 238 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:41.080 And I found a company who needed a podcast producer. So what I did 239 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.080 was, luckily the company, they had the name of the company on the 240 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.039 AD, which is a pretty that's a lot of companies don't do that right 241 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.399 because they don't want to get spam. They don't want get spam with people 242 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.320 on UPWORK. So but for some reason they had the name of the company. 243 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:54.320 Right. So I'm like all right, dope, so let me. 244 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.320 I went to the company website and it said book a discovery call. So 245 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.240 that discovery call is for like companies who want marketing, because this was a 246 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.320 marketing company. So I just typed in my youtube channel. I'm like I 247 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.000 have two hundred thousand views. I'm making like I don't know, I might 248 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.000 have probably made everything else up, but I just acted like I was a 249 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.240 business. I get on the call with the guy and he was like yeah, 250 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:16.600 man, like I don't know why I'm talking to you, but like 251 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.720 I like the hustle, so why don't you come in to the city interview? 252 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.600 And then from there I ended up doing a whole podcast for them and 253 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.600 producing. I literally ended up like editing audio, video, show notes, 254 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.960 booking guests, Seo, writing blog post. Yeah, man. So then 255 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:35.320 that's turned into a part time and then at one point of full time roll 256 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.639 just because I ended up calling that CEO and getting on zoom. That was 257 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.639 the first time I use zoom. So Do I love that? Man. 258 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.039 I love that Hustle. I love using that little hack of like yeah, 259 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.559 I'll do discovery call. Now let's talk about something. No, Hey, 260 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:52.159 man, this is actually what I want to talk to you about. I'm 261 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.600 actually not a business. I'm actually twenty one years old and have no idea 262 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.240 what I'm doing. But like, hear me out, you know, did 263 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.039 you get me nervous now? I like, wait, is he all my 264 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.720 show? Why is see? How my show? What's he doing? is 265 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:04.399 He really who he says he is? What's happening? Yeah, man, 266 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.559 I'm trying to do you need some editing. I actually have some pointers for 267 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.759 you on here to pitch me. I okay, that's awesome. Well, 268 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.960 maybe. So you said those first two failed. So was that was the 269 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.000 first one. So how did it? How did the quote unquote fail? 270 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:22.919 Like what was a failure on paper, I guess. Yeah, I mean 271 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.080 it was not a failure to me at all, like I learned so much 272 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.320 by working for this company, but it was a failure on paper in the 273 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:33.240 way that like, like they gave me the idea for the PODCAST, right. 274 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.399 So they were like, we're going to have people on the podcast who 275 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.159 invest in companies that we want to work with. We're going to have the 276 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.440 VC's on the podcast. Then we're going to go to the VC's and ask 277 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.039 them for an introduction to these companies that we want to work with. That 278 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.919 wasn't my strategy, right. So that was their strategy. So I came 279 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.159 in and just fulfilled basically the production, that editing, the messaging and the 280 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.279 interviewing. I was the host to and so, you know, in that 281 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:02.159 was a success. Like I full I did what I was supposed to do. 282 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:07.160 But what happened was they put me on sales because they realize like obviously 283 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:08.920 I could like talk to people and like explain things or whatever. So they 284 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.319 ended up put me on sales and the podcasters went in the backburn all right, 285 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.599 yeah, so, yeah, man, and then they the end of 286 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.000 the day they're like where's the podcast? I'm like, Dude, I'm doing, 287 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:19.759 like I'm maxed out, twelve hours a day, like trying to do 288 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:23.680 discovery calls and you're not even selling. Like I'm doing these discovery calls, 289 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.400 getting them in the door and you're not even closing. And then you're like 290 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:30.880 where's the podcast? You know that, you know you were supposed to lead, 291 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.799 you know. So, yeah, that was I would never trade it 292 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.880 for anything, but at the end of the day the podcast didn't continue. 293 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:40.079 They took me off of it. I mean the company went bankrupt. They'd 294 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:42.759 never even knowed anybody like it was terrible. It was a kind of a 295 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:45.640 hope they're doing better now, but yeah, that was bad. That was 296 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.400 overall, like a bat, like a I guess I negative experience, like 297 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.359 I said, on paper, sure, but for me I just learned everything 298 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.519 I possibly could and then just got the hell out of there. You know, 299 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.240 yeah, that's crazy, man. Well, it's good for you to 300 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:00.400 learn, you know, and I did that to man. I would work 301 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.599 for nonprofit for like almost a decade and learn like a ton of stuff. 302 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.480 I mean some stuff I wanted to learn, some stuff I didn't, but 303 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:11.440 I just learned a bond of stuff about media and I've always been curious about 304 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.160 it. But you know, that is that is good that you look at 305 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.440 then said, okay, I'm going to learn someone, because I think a 306 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:19.960 lot of times, man, we're creators, were career minded people. We 307 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:23.519 get into something and it doesn't work out and then we're just like we take 308 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:27.039 all the bad stuff with us and we don't remember all the good things that 309 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.519 came out that experience. You know, like Oh, I learned how to 310 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.559 edit, I learned how to produce and write show notes and begin timeline and 311 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.559 time frames and you know all this kind of stuff. So so, man, 312 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.079 that's good. For Good on you, and I think that's what some 313 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:44.359 creators listen to the show can take away as like maybe you do start a 314 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.279 show with your by yourself or with someone else, and maybe it does, 315 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.160 quote unquote, fail, but I don't really think you fail. I think 316 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:55.240 you just learn some man, take me into the second show and tell me 317 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:59.880 a little bit about it. Yeah, so I get out of here right. 318 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.960 I know I'm added this. You know this corporate marketing podcast that I 319 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:07.240 built that went on the back burner and everything, and they owed me two 320 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.880 hundred dollars and I just, you know, got out there. A year 321 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:12.240 later they ended up sending it to me. So I just thought that was 322 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:15.960 hilarious. But Anyway, so I'm back on my own right, and this 323 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.759 is March two thousand and twenty. So I said to myself, okay, 324 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:25.240 I'm gonna do this, I'm going to go full freelance again and see what 325 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.000 I can do. And so somebody called me out of the blue one day. 326 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.160 Had No idea how they got my number and we still don't know to 327 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.880 this day, and they were like hey, you're the podcast guy, come 328 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:36.960 on, we got this project for you. So, you know, long 329 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:40.799 story short, the hosts was a mentalist. He had been on Jackass to 330 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:44.759 Ellen show, like he was kind of like a minor celebrity to so to 331 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.960 say. And all of his guests that were lined up were all celebrities to 332 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.279 like most of them were like a or like blest c list celebrities, you 333 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:57.200 know, Gary Busey, Tony Lo Bianco, Vernon Davis, WHO's an NFL 334 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:02.039 player, Nick Diaz from the UFC. I mean like it was stacked. 335 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.480 Do this podcast was sacked. Wow. And Yeah, yeah, so by 336 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:10.240 any me any measures like that, you would buy anybody's opinion. This thing, 337 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:11.839 once again, on paper, should have been the most one of those 338 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:17.359 successful podcast right. So we get to like release day, we released the 339 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:22.440 show and they're like once again, or you concerned with the numbers? I'm 340 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:25.960 like, Dude, I'm the Audio Guy, I don't do numbers. Like, 341 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.559 where's your marketing budget? You know, and this was a hundred million 342 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:33.680 dollar company paying for this. Oh my God, and and but the thing 343 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:34.960 is, dude, they did door to door sales, so they had no 344 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:40.440 idea. They never did marketing they were door to door to door sales company, 345 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.400 you know, top line, a hundred million dollars a year, like 346 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:47.480 they don't know marketing, they've never had all are all their content was internal. 347 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.759 It was like internal, you know, showcases and stuff for their employees. 348 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:53.440 That was like just to pump them up and want more people to do 349 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:57.240 doortodoor sales. So they took that same mindset to a podcast, where it's 350 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.319 all about the market, it's all about the listeners, it's all about creating 351 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.960 a community, and they had no idea. So that just proved to me 352 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.480 as well that like, okay, so you can be a company with no 353 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:11.880 money that's going bankrupt and and and not know how to do this, or 354 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.359 you can be a company with all the money in the world and not know 355 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:19.559 how to do this. So I got out of those two podcasts right and 356 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:23.319 I realize that this something needs to change. I neither need to change who 357 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.240 I'm working with or change how I'm working with them, you know. So 358 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:33.440 that's kind of that experience was extremely valuable to me. So was was that 359 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:36.400 the moment that you're kind of like, man, I might just God be 360 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.480 a mechanic, or or or did you have that moment or we like no, 361 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.440 I'm going to push through, or were you like you know what? 362 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.279 Because really, if I were you, I would probably be like man, 363 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.960 I've worked for two major companies here, one that I didn't know it was 364 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.200 going to go bankrupt, one has millions of dollars and I can't get either 365 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.920 all of these projects to work. Like I'm going to go back and do 366 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:57.720 what I know best and work on cars. Did you have those thoughts at 367 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:02.880 all? It's like that going to your mind, I pride. Yeah, 368 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.079 there's actually a moment when that first company asked me to come back, I 369 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:10.279 guess after they went bankrupt and then started up again, and it was like 370 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.480 three hundred dollars a week. Dude, and right roommate. I remember asking 371 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:17.359 him at the time and he was like yeah, just take it, man, 372 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:18.720 like you. All you have to do is like ten hours a week. 373 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.720 And my roommate who said that works for me now. So it's just, 374 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.400 you know, crazy and he just, you know, like he's we're 375 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.359 definitely a beginning. We're starting out. You know, there's not out like 376 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.240 we had some multimillion dollar company now, but anyway, he's like a massive 377 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:36.799 part of what I'm doing now and he was just looking at for my best 378 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.799 interest, right. But yeah, I mean my mindset was, you know, 379 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:42.240 I'd live in my car for this shit, you know. So, 380 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:47.359 like, I don't I just know, like I actually was a mechanic after 381 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:51.240 that part time. You know, I did that to pay the bills on 382 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.279 and off for, you know, three to five years. Went Back to 383 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.559 the shop that I started at. So yeah, I actually had a part 384 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.839 time gigs like in and out. But I'm also a wedding DJ, so 385 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:03.480 I always I had that on the side as well. So I always had 386 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.640 ways to get by and squeeze by. I don't spend money on things, 387 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.720 I only reinvest it in the business, so I can scrape by really easily. 388 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:12.960 So I just figured, Shit, dude, if I got to like, 389 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:15.920 you know, go sell cars or like go do uber something, I 390 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.000 probably would if I had to, but I figure I could sell beats or 391 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.920 I could hustle or something like that. So I was never going to go 392 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.599 back to anything full time. No, no way. That's what I always 393 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:27.880 tell people that, like Oh, you had a body to do this thing 394 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:32.920 forever, like because I had a teacher printing business for nearly ten years before 395 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:36.920 the pandemic. In the pandemic was like you're done, and I didn't really 396 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:37.880 you know, as it's a place where I was like man, I really 397 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:42.279 want to do this business forever. And then, similar to you, man, 398 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.720 I was in podcast seem like as a hobby. Was Make I don't 399 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.000 think I was making money at that point with it, but I was just 400 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.680 in it as a hobby, as a as a host and having a lot 401 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.039 of fun. And then, you know, somebody said Hey, can you 402 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.599 help me and I'm like sure, I can help and then my teacher business 403 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.119 went away during the pandemic and I'm like, Oh, I can help a 404 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.240 lot of people. So I started helping them and then I learned what I 405 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.319 was good at, and what I was good at was teach people on to 406 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.440 monetize. So I kind of, you know, pivoted just to that. 407 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.480 But I'm with you, man. I will work. I told some by 408 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.519 the other day. I'm like, Dude, I will work twenty hours, 409 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.279 seven days a week. So I don't want to work forty four anybody else, 410 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.720 because I just want the freedom to do what I want to do, 411 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.599 when I want to do it, how I want to do it, and 412 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.519 being a creator, and this kind of the thing too, man. I 413 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.920 Like I want people to understand guys like you and I, like we're still 414 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.640 hustling and if we have to, we will go do a part time job 415 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:38.440 or we will do whatever it takes to make ends meet. And it's not 416 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.160 just hey, it all goes pretty and and all that stuff. And there 417 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.359 are times where I wake up and I go, oh, man, I 418 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.000 could just go work for the and I've had job offers there, like once 419 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.200 you come to all our medium like I could do that. I can make 420 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:53.640 fifty, sixty Geez insurance, like my kid would be happy and my wife 421 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.880 would be super happy. And know, was like, I could just do 422 00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.400 that, but I know I'm going to rot in that office chair and I'm 423 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:03.279 going to die doing something for somebody else. So you share that same like 424 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.440 feeling when you think about it? Oh Man, yeah, and like, 425 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.480 Dude, there's months I'm in the negatives, you know, like this business 426 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.599 isn't, this isn't there's no glory to this, you know, and right, 427 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.920 and being a boss is, like I told you. I'm like it's 428 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.880 probably like you just don't do it. Like I don't want to discourage people, 429 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.920 but what I'm saying is like, if you value any of the stuff 430 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:29.279 that you're normal, like nine to five existence gives you, then just stick 431 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:33.000 with that. Like, if you're not willing to reverse everything, then then 432 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.240 don't do it, because every single thing is going to get flipped on its 433 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.240 head. Your family relationship, your front relationship with your friends, you know, 434 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.400 like your relationship with your co workers, your relationship with your clients, 435 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:49.200 your relationship with with life itself, your time management, your fitness, your 436 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:52.720 health, your food, like everything is going to change. You know so, 437 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.279 and it's all influx in some days are on top of the world, 438 00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:57.759 in the next day you want to go back to that nine hundred twenty five 439 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:00.319 right. So, dude, I live that. I fucking I'm sorry, 440 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.599 I don't know if I'm laughing. person. You're five, man, you're 441 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:04.599 fine, no problem. Now, I'm with you, you know. And 442 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:08.079 it is that and I always see those little entrepreneur graphs where it's like, 443 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.440 you know, you do a deal, you're like go but the mountain, 444 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.640 then the next day you're down and it is that kind of emotional roller coaster. 445 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.440 Then I think that being a creator on top of it, like we're 446 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:23.000 kind of built emotionally driven anyway. So then it's even more you know I 447 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.200 am anyway. So it's then it's even more of an impact of like drama 448 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.000 in my mind of like Hey, can I actually do this or whatever. 449 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.519 So we got a couple people saying hello in the chat here. We got 450 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:37.599 Chrisvagalio, well said, and then monty weaver, always supporting the show. 451 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.839 So appreciate you guys. You gets people ever here on clubhouse with us as 452 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.720 well, and we are going to open this up for a Qa here in 453 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.759 a little bit. So, man, then you kind of got into it 454 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:48.559 and you're like, all right, I'm going to work on my own. 455 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.799 I'm not going to go work for anymore companies, I'm going to go after 456 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.960 this, this podcast production. What was the system that you used to bring 457 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.599 on, because I know you've helped over like maybe almost three dozen clients now 458 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.039 launch their message to the world. So what was the attractant to you versus 459 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:11.519 anyone else? Oh, full relationships. It was just people that I knew 460 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.799 and so on. That first company that I work for, that first podcast, 461 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.799 that where the company went bankrupt. They had me on Linkedin and they 462 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.839 told me that you got to go on Linkedin. We got to use it 463 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.920 to make sales, and thank God that they had me go on Linkedin because 464 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:30.359 once I left I had about five hundred connections on Linkedin and all I did 465 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.000 was start going. I went on Linkedin and I start messaging people. Hey, 466 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.119 I help people. I'm at trying to start to help people make podcast 467 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.240 if you're interested in podcasting, I'll help you for free, and that's I 468 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.119 did that probably with twenty or thirty people, and from there people started asking 469 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.599 me to edit their shows or to consult for them. I didn't charge for 470 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:56.359 consulting until two and a half years in, and so now it's just it's 471 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.480 or you know, back then it was just that networking and now I've just 472 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.960 created a system to for that networking to scale. And obviously I still talk 473 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.240 to every single person. I have people that that you know, sometimes send 474 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.960 out messages or automated emails and stuff, but like, I've relationships with hundreds 475 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.559 of people from my networking on there. So instagram, I was doing my 476 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.359 own thing on there in terms of my music and my personal podcast, so 477 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.920 I could go into that. I still make content there and that's where a 478 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.599 lot of my audience lives. But, dude, I was on Linkedin. 479 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:32.640 I've probably done linked in. First, I did it probably six hours a 480 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.200 day for six months and now I've done it two hours a day at least 481 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.000 for probably two years. So that's where I developed all those clients. Hell 482 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.599 Yeah, so what are you doing on Linkedin for two hours a day? 483 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.359 What does that look like? Oh, I could fill it with eight hours, 484 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.000 dude, if I wanted to. But so this is what I do 485 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.400 in the morning. I go on. The first thing I do, my 486 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.759 first work for the day is checking my slack and just checking in, you 487 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.079 know, making sure what the clients are saying with the team saying, and 488 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.799 then I start on Linkedin. I make a post every day. It's rare 489 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.519 that I prepare the post. I usually write every morning. I just write 490 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.839 the post right down. People tell you to prepare, you know, like 491 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.400 you're going to do with video clips or something. I just do it my 492 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.160 way. So I make my post, I post it and then I have 493 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.759 a system for engaging with people. So I engage on certain people's post, 494 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:21.759 certain influencers post, and I have a comment marketing strategy. So, say 495 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.720 Gary V's post, for example. You probably familiar with Gary v every day. 496 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.799 You can go to any of his previous five to ten linkedin posts and 497 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.960 I either myself from my partner have a top comment on that post because we 498 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.720 know what to do. That top comment brings us hundreds or thousands of people 499 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.720 to my profile. So that's just a portion of the system that we created 500 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.359 that I actually use somebody else's content system. His name is Justin. Well, 501 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.720 she has a linkedin course. That's pretty solid. I basically took an 502 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.799 amalgamation of what he did and then what we're doing. I learned the Gary 503 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.359 v comment marketing thing from this girl named Holataja. She runs young and profiting 504 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.319 of really very successful podcast. So it's been it's been years of trying to 505 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.240 figure this out, but that's kind of a glimpse into my system. That's 506 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.839 awesome. And is this the same system that you teach other podcasters when they 507 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.440 come on and work with you? Is that a part of the program? 508 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:14.799 You know, we do. Most of the kind of promotion that we do 509 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.279 is to get my number one goal for a lot of these podcasters coming in 510 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:23.079 is get as much of your current audience to become your podcast audience. Right. 511 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:27.240 So most of them are already creating on Linkedin, but some of them 512 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.039 do what we do on Linkedin on facebook or maybe on these other platforms. 513 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:37.079 So I don't do a linkedin deep dive with clients unless they like asked for 514 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:38.839 it. So I'm and I'll usually guide them to one of these courses, 515 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.720 but we cover kind of fundamentals of promotion and then hey, if they want 516 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.359 to go deep on Linkedin, we can definitely go there. But I do 517 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.119 separate linkedin consulting just from people who ask. I don't like advertise it, 518 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.599 but I've done that a few times now. All right, cool, yeah, 519 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:53.880 man, I's I just like, you know what, because I just 520 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.000 started doing content on Linkedin, which is this live show right now. I 521 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.319 like maybe started yesterday because I forgot, because I like to go live, 522 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:03.079 and then they're like, oh, yeah, you can go live in like 523 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.640 five years from now, and so then they finally let me have access and 524 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.079 I forgot all about it. So anyway, yeah, and you know the 525 00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.960 thing with that is that's different. Started to jump in there, but I 526 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.920 get people to know this. This is probably the number one thing you should 527 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.759 know is that you can post on facebook. Doesn't really care how many people's 528 00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:25.519 post you comment on. So, meaning if I post something that people on 529 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:30.039 facebook like, it will get seen like if it's good. On linkedin it 530 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.279 much harder to do that. And on Linkedin it's more of a trade. 531 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.759 It's more of you put the time in, you engage with people, you 532 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.920 comment and then you get rewarded for that. So I just want to set 533 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.680 that tone for people, like if you're not going to put the work in 534 00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.079 on Linkedin, just you know, just know that you're not going to get 535 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.480 the results, and at least Im from my experience. So I'll say this 536 00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.960 might this will be my last linkedin question and maybe I'll go offline with you 537 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.920 about my curiosity. So you're saying if I go on Linkedin and I'm getting 538 00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:02.400 on here and I go to knee or Kendrick or David or Joseph or Greg's 539 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.119 Linkedin that's listening over here on clubhouse and I engage with them, than Linkedin, 540 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.039 a Linkedin's algorithm says, oh, hey, you're a part of the 541 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.440 community, so now I'm going to bump your your content, or is it 542 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.599 just bumping your what does that? I mean? What? I don't yeah, 543 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.839 can you dive into that a little bit, because that's like a pretty 544 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:27.799 easy thing to do to get rewarded in I guess whatever. Okay, anyway, 545 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.440 you got my question. I'm I'm gonna let you know. It's complicated. 546 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.240 No, you're good, it's complete. It's annoying. So I kind 547 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.519 of I'll start with this. If you if somebody comments on your post right, 548 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:45.400 people who are connected with them will see your post because it'll say billy 549 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:52.279 commented on Ryan's post. So now your post gets in front of all of 550 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.319 the people who commented. Audience. Wow. So that how post gets seen, 551 00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.720 right. So, and it this happens on facebook a little bit too, 552 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.680 but it's not the same algorithm. I don't know how the Algorithm works 553 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.279 on Linkedin time of day that you post, the amount of words, not 554 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.240 using links, putting links in the comments instead, like Emoji's. No, 555 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.759 like, I'm telling you this. It goes really deep, but I can 556 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:22.400 guarantee you that you will see guaranteed growth and reach if you spend ninety five 557 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.519 percent of your time engaging with other people and five percent of your time posting. 558 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.759 All right, man, that's good. That's good tip right there. 559 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.759 Ninety five percent of your time engaging, five percent of just posting with your 560 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.640 own content. And I know a guy, Kevin Schmidlin, I believe it 561 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.359 is how I says last name. He's in the Philly area. Had had 562 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:45.119 a big podcast called feeling. WHO. Yes, he's he helps people launch 563 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.880 podcast right, I think so. But he has this daily targeted engagement thing 564 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.839 that he's talking about on Instagram or whatever. And and so, yeah, 565 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.400 actually got to interview them, editing and put out with him. But yeah, 566 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.039 man, he's you know, crushes it with that stuff too. So 567 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.720 really interesting about about Linkedin, and that is the thing, like don't quit. 568 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.119 Don't quit on linked an either. Keep going. And this is the 569 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.039 whole thing, is like don't quit the don't quit show because it's going to 570 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.840 pay off for you in the law run. If I would have quit six 571 00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.079 months and dude, I wouldn't. And I have five thousand connections on there. 572 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:21.800 It's not I'm not an influencer like these. There's people that have a 573 00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:23.960 million, right. But people come to me now and are like hey, 574 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.639 man, you're like you know, you have this audience on Linkedin. I'm 575 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.639 like, I don't even look at it like that, like I still just 576 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:31.360 see my off as the guy with like a few thousand connections, you know. 577 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.360 Yeah, but then people start. It gives you authority like I have, 578 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.400 you know, authors, celebrities, people who have been on you know, 579 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.440 you name it, television show on network television reaching out to me, 580 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:46.880 Hey, I want to start my podcast, because they don't even know me, 581 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.639 you know, just by my presence on there. So yeah, man, 582 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.679 it's the dividends payoff, but you got to do that work. Yeah, 583 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:58.119 man, well, good on you for not quitting. And I think 584 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.440 you know, people listen to this or watching it, it's like this is 585 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.039 the game of being a content creator, if you want to be a content 586 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:06.920 creator for a living. Now, if you just want to do fun or 587 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.840 whatever. But I think when you're in the position that you're and I are 588 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:13.320 in, where we're going, hey, we're sending out to do this for 589 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.519 a living, you know, like to make money to do all those things, 590 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.760 I think it's really important to have that game plan. But be willing 591 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.480 to pivot, be willing to go eat dirt for, you know, a 592 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.639 little while to get your feet in the ground. Be Willing to not drink 593 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:32.159 the eight dollar cup of coffee and drink the Nasty Folders Cup or whatever you 594 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.920 maybe that's right here, my guy that folders. Baby, get that photo. 595 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.000 I'm over here drinking maven coffee. I don't need to where minds that. 596 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.920 Hey, shout out to Mavin coffee on the sponsor right there. That's 597 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.280 we got good. Yeah, I mean they're awesome to they're from Columbia. 598 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.199 I mean, dude, I was not a coffee drinker. I was actually 599 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.400 anti coffee. They're like, let us make you a lot toe see what 600 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.800 you think about it. I took three sips and I'm like this is dope. 601 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.519 So I haven't turned back since then. That was a couple of years 602 00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.559 ago. Man. Is there any other tips as far as like things that 603 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.039 you do? Do you wake up in the morning? Go don't quit, 604 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:07.800 man, don't quit. Don't quick. I mean what was the thing that 605 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.079 you know you do as an entrepreneur to keep yourself motivated? or You like 606 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.039 tracking wins or metrics, or how do you why do you get, you 607 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.000 know, inspire yourself as as an entrepreneur, as a content career? I 608 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:23.199 just watch Dave and Gogat, David Goggins videos over and over again on instagram. 609 00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.239 I don't know if you know who I'm referring to, but yeah, 610 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.760 man, now, man, I have a I have a routine that I 611 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.039 stick to and really, I think this is the this is kind of how 612 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.440 I look at it. I've spent the last like five years really focusing on 613 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:44.679 selfdevelopment and routines and trying to be the best people say, be the best 614 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.239 version of themselves. Like, I'm not talking really for other people, I'm 615 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.679 talking like how can I just stay discipline, stay motivated, stay on track, 616 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:58.000 stay selfaware and really improve on these on these higher level skills? So 617 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.679 I started meditating like four years ago. It's something I do every day, 618 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.880 five days a week, four days a week. Like I look at all 619 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:09.679 of these habits as plut as kind of additions, right, so every day 620 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.400 I can sit down and work and I'm at a hundred percent, right, 621 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.000 like I don't want to have a habit that that try that gets me from 622 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.559 eighty to a hundred percent, because that would mean that I would have to 623 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.920 do it, so I would then be relying on that thing. So all 624 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.719 of my habits help me, like they give me an edge, right, 625 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.199 they give me they help me in some way, but I don't like to 626 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.800 get completely tied to them, like to the fact to the point that like 627 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.760 I need to do them all the time or no matter what, or else 628 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.400 I'll feel different or act different. so meditation has been key with me, 629 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.559 just walking, and then just to could the consistent exercise. I've been just 630 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.159 like lifting weights and working out for since I was like fifteen, mant. 631 00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:53.400 So I've been staying on that and and really just developing those consistent habits that 632 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.280 work for me. I've done everything. I've done early morning workouts, I've 633 00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.159 done late workouts, I've done cold showers, I've done journaling, I've done, 634 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.679 you know everything. I have this notebook I used to write down like 635 00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.880 how I felt about my day and track that. I don't do that anymore. 636 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.559 Like I've probably ninety nine percent of the things I've tried I don't do, 637 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.000 but I've just stuck with the ones that that work for me. So, 638 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.719 you know, it's always tough, but but the number one thing that 639 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.719 I'm focused on lately, especially managing a team, is just managing emotions and 640 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.840 just being able to respond to something instead of react to it, and so 641 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.519 that's been like a lot of my focus lately because, you know, managing 642 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.960 a team and a company's hard man you man know, you know, a 643 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.440 couple takeaways from what you said. One is like doing the elementary things consistently. 644 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.000 I think is what make to win at the end of the day. 645 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.400 Someone told me that a long time ago. They told me told me two 646 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.639 things you said. One, it's quality over quantity, and then, too, 647 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.000 it's which I kind of still believe that to a certain extent. I 648 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.280 mean believe there's Times unique quality quantity just to kind of get ramped up and 649 00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.519 get your systems in place. But once you kind of hit that to like 650 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:02.840 okay, now let's work on, you know, quality over quantity. And 651 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.599 then the other thing is like, even in your daily routines, you're like, 652 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:08.960 man, I've tried some stuff, a lot of stuff I've tried. 653 00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:14.119 I'm not, you know, kept and I think there's like seasons for everything 654 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.719 as creators and if you put yourself in this box and really as people and 655 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:21.679 entrepreneurs in general, if I said, Hey, what I did five years 656 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.800 ago I still have to do today, I would probably be real up crap 657 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.119 creek without a paddle because I would still be holding onto something that just not 658 00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.079 working. Now it's just not working. So I love it that you're talking 659 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:36.880 about the pivot and going okay, Cooliman. I do this for six months 660 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.199 or three months or thirty days to get this habit in the place or whatever, 661 00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.199 but then I may not ever do it again. And so yeah, 662 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.119 man, I love that you brought that up because I think it's I think 663 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:51.280 sometimes it's creators. We get married to projects, we get married to systems, 664 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.239 we get married to, you know, like the way we did it 665 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.480 or way someone else does it and tells us how to do it. So 666 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.800 yeah, man, high five for bringing that in. And then also, 667 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.159 real quick of Phil. He'll over here in club house says Hey, who's 668 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:08.639 your guest? Standard was Ryan Sullivan with podcast principles. So you can go 669 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.239 check them out and I tagged a link over here on clubhouse as well. 670 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.480 You can go to that link in all the information is there and then once 671 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:19.599 I publish the episode to the arts as feed, all that stuff will live 672 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.760 there as well. So Ryan, real quick, man, before we dip 673 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.679 out. And by the way, if anybody has any questions, feel free 674 00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:27.800 to drop him in the chat. If you're on club house, raise your 675 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.960 hand. If you're on bullhorn, call in chat questions boxes there and we 676 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.159 can answer those for you. But before we dip out. Is there anything 677 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.400 else that we haven't talked about that motivate you not to quit? You want 678 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.400 to share it, inspire this audience of creators with yeah, I'll say. 679 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:51.199 Just know why you're doing it. And this sounds so simple, and this 680 00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.480 is probably something you've talked about before, but when you are up late making 681 00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.920 that video clip for your podcast, when you're doing that edit that you know 682 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.840 your computer died and now you got to edit it all over again, you 683 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:09.360 know when you're in those moments that everything seems to just really suck. You 684 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:15.400 have to think, you have to understand the bigger picture of what you're doing, 685 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.719 and everything that's worth doing is worth of doing the right way the first 686 00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:23.920 time, if that's possible. So I just think that if you don't have 687 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:30.679 most people will stop, I think because they're not. It's not they can't, 688 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:31.800 they have nothing to go to to be like, Oh, yeah, 689 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.599 that's why I do it, like I wrote it down, you know, 690 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.400 like now I got to do it because I always do it, because this 691 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:44.800 is why. So I think just making that evident for yourself is is is 692 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.480 important, man, and I think that it sounds a little fluffy, but 693 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.679 I really think that that's a big reason why people stop is because a lot 694 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:58.079 of people just do and they don't know why they do. So that's good, 695 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.920 man. Nope, know the why and why you do stuff, man, 696 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.559 man, love that. I don't think you can get better advice than 697 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.400 that. Like, know your why and it's going to motivate you and drive 698 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.239 you right. It's like people ask me, like, dude, I just 699 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.199 sort a daily show about creators. I'm like because I want to build a 700 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:17.199 Badass community of creators who inspire each other and encourage each other help each other. 701 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.360 Like I want to win and I want to surround myself with people who 702 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.440 want to win, and if I got to create a daily show to keep 703 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:30.440 the conversation going and keep people lit about creating and motivation and inspiration all that, 704 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.000 then that's what I'm going to do. And that's why every night, 705 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:35.360 when my kid goes to bed and my wife goes to bed, guess what 706 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.679 I'm doing? I'm putting together a show for tomorrow. And so you know, 707 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.079 it's that's the reason why and that's the whole motivation is, like I 708 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.159 want to build this awesome community of creators that you know when I'm down and 709 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.480 out. They're going to pick me up and vice versa. So it's it's 710 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.880 pretty dope. So yeah, this is the beginning stages of that and in 711 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.239 this project. So, man, Ryan, I really appreciate you coming in. 712 00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:00.079 I'm going to jump over some chats real quick. Make sure no one 713 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.639 needs anything. Phil Hill says Hello Ryan. So feels a good dude when 714 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.320 he's up. Oh, appreciate you tuning in, man. Yeah, man, 715 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.840 he's a live streamer on over on Amazon. So we got live streamers, 716 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.400 we got podcasters, we got authors and teachers, all kinds of people 717 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.360 in this community, man. So we really like it. But do really 718 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.719 appreciate you coming in. I'm going to check a couple other spots here before 719 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.760 I let you go. Just make sure we don't have any questions. Well, 720 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:29.159 thank you so much for having me, man, this is good time. 721 00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:31.840 I really appreciate your content, your podcast. I'm going to dive into 722 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.239 that Amazon episode two, because I saw that and I didn't I wasn't able 723 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.480 to listen to it yet. So that's that's interesting to me. And that 724 00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:43.000 contest that you mentioned too, I'm a look into it. I'll look into 725 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.360 the fine print though. What a great tip because I've signed up for for 726 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.920 rap showcases and stuff like that and then they like, you know, own 727 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.480 half your life for like half your life or something like that. So you 728 00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.880 never know, man, but billy, thank you so much, man. 729 00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:59.599 You're doing some great work here and especially for the podcast community, and the 730 00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.760 good thing about this is that everybody's on the same page in this community, 731 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.280 man, just supporting each other. So I appreciate you being being a part 732 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.800 of that and having me on. Yeah, man, you as well. 733 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.320 We'll stay connected. We'll have you back on and talk about some other fun 734 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.199 stuff as well. So I really appreciate your Ryan. And all right, 735 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.239 guys, that is that's a rap for today's episode of creating for daily. 736 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.239 They're creating daily, not creating for daily, creating daily. Once again, 737 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.320 you can check it out creating daily dot live. So if you're if you 738 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.119 need any show links from today, go to that and go to the live 739 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.920 show tab. If you want to be a guest on the show, I'm 740 00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:32.599 doing these five days a week, Monday through Friday, at too bem eastern 741 00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.079 time, as long as the world and all the stars aligned, and let 742 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:38.760 me do that. If you want to be a guest, if your content 743 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:44.880 creator or your Creator and some facet that's probably more around podcasting and live streaming, 744 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.320 you know, content creation, social media, things like that. If 745 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.440 you want to come on and you get a store to share or you get 746 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.719 some tips of tricks and you want to build an episode together, would love 747 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:58.400 to do that. Reach out to me. Go to creating daily dot live 748 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.519 and just go to contact and you can shoot me a message there and we'll 749 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:06.079 get the conversation started and join us. Tomorrow. I'm going to we're not 750 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.039 going to have a guest on, but I'm going to have a guest co 751 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.760 hosted meadows. Some of you of here on clubhouse know him, maybe some 752 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:14.119 of you on my live stream. He's been on with me before. But 753 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:15.360 we're going to recap the week. We're going to have a lot of funs. 754 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:20.719 Can Be Fryationanigan's, so it's long as I get to verbally abuse him 755 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.199 a few times I'll be happy. But bring your takeaways from the week, 756 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:28.800 if you've been listening to to all the episodes, bring some takeaways. I'd 757 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.199 love to hear it. Would love to get some feedback on our first official 758 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:37.159 week of creating daily, creating five shows in one week, which is pretty 759 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.440 fun. If you have any questions about my experience on that, so free 760 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.119 to ask me as well and get in touch. And what a shout out 761 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.760 to my friend knee. I believe knee has been on every single episode in 762 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:51.039 the audience, supporting in the back channel Chat. So really appreciate that, 763 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.360 man. That's what community is all about. I know not not that everyone 764 00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.960 can do that, but really appreciate need doing that. So until tomorrow. 765 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.800 I'll see you tomorrow to PM Eastern time. Go here the record button, 766 00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.880 go create something great, go inspire somebody and just remember your message matters. 767 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.239 So don't quit because somebody else needs you. You heard it today. Ryan 768 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.760 has literally helped over three dozen people launch a podcast and get their message out 769 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.719 to the world. However, he could have quit and just went to the 770 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:17.400 other way in, those people would still be struggling trying to get their content 771 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.199 out. So don't give up on yourself, don't give up on others, 772 00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.360 because people need to hear you. All Right, talk to you soon. 773 00:46:29.800 --> I