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What is going on? I don't
know why that cuts off so abruptly,
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but welcome to another episode of creating
daily. I'm your host, Billy Thorpe.
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It is August nine. I can't
even believe it. I cannot believe
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it's August nine, but having a
lot of fun in the studio today,
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just in here creating, creating videos
for Amazon, getting ready for the live
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show, planning podcast off signing sponsors. It's been a crazy busy day,
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so I hope you've had a very
productive day as well. Welcome to the
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live show. I'm standing up.
I know for some of you guys are
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like, why are you telling us
this, but I get a standing desk
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finally and actually forgot about it for
a week and then I'm sitting here I'm
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like, Oh wait, I should
stand up and stand up for this interview
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to see if I have a little
more energy, because I need more energy,
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as you guys all know. But
if you're watching, feel free to
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jump into a chat near you and
say hello. I got a very special
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guest on the show today. Jody
Kranele is gonna be joining me in just
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a moment. She's spent fifteen years
in voice over and we're gonna talk about
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maximizing our voice, using our skill
set for more than just podcasting, more
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than just live streaming, more than
just voiceover. Like we're gonna talk about
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the business of your voice. I
should have named that the title of the
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show, but before I do,
everyone always asked me about this microphone.
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This is a sure M v seven
and his limited edition. So it's a
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white new air and you can go
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I'll clear my throat there and check
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You can pre order now and they will
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be a part of the cool kids
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Dil casters have one. My Buddy
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going to create this this exclusive club
where we all get together and just talking
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to our microphones. And if you're
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you. But also, if you
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one way you can support the show
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So high five for doing that and
getting getting getting a microphone for you.
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Uh. So, anyway, I'm
gonna cut this intro down pretty sure I
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want to get jody in here and
start talking about how she has leveraged her
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voice and how she can inspire us
to leverage our voice. So she has
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a UM phenomenal bio and I'm not
gonna read it to you because I'm not
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really good at reading, but we'll
talk through some of the things that she's
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been doing in her career for the
last fifteen years. But I want you
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to share this episode, like it, save it, share it, subscribe
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to all those fun things, because
she's going to drop a wealth of knowledge.
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I jumped into a lot of clubhouse
rooms where she's talking about the power
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of audio, the power of voice, and she is one of the most
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passionate people in this space about these
subjects. So, without further Ado,
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drum roll, somebody, anybody?
Oh No, it's just me in the
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studio. All Right, here we
go, jody cranel. Welcome to the
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show. How are you? I'm
great. Thanks. How are you doing?
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Doing good. You know, I'm
just didn't here talking to myself,
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looking at a blank wall. It's
really fun, but I'm glad you're I'm
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glad you're on. Now I have
somebody to talk to. I'm glad I'm
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here too. Well. Thank you
so much for for being on the show.
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I'm a huge fan. Like I
said, I follow you around Clubhouse,
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follow you around the Internet and see
that you're doing a lot of cool
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stuff and more than just doing the
work, but you're enabling other people and
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encouraging other people to jump into the
space of using their voice, using your
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creativity, using their talent, all
that kind of stuff. So I know
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you've been doing this for about fifteen
years. I do want to hear the
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backstory of how you got into voiceover
because in my opinion, it's a little
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bit intimidating, but you do such
a great job, so I'm curious how
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you got into it. It can
be a little intimidating, it's true.
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But actually when I first heard of
voice over, it was probably six.
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I volunteered my time to read books
onto tape for the blind at the Canadian
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National Institute for the blind, and
that really was tape. It was real
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to real tape. So it was
quite something to learn the tech as well
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as to do the voicing, and
I liked them both equally as well.
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So that kind of gave me a
hint that voiceover was something I might want
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to do, but it was also
something that I wasn't intimidated by, so
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that was nice to know. It
actually took a little bit of time,
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though, for me to manage to
make it a career, because I was
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a really early adopter of the Internet. So I had a uh, songwriting
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website online called the muses muse from
about until and it was around for a
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long time, long enough to get
pretty big and kind of was my baby
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for a long time. And through
that site I learned S E O and
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Internet marketing and that was what I
was doing before I just I did to
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give voiceovers a try. And really
the reason I did that was because I
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got bored, and lots of things
happened for me when I get bored.
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Spoken like a true creator, Jody
Creator. How Your Business? Well,
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you know what? I was just
bored of everything I was doing. I
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was very successful, my music was
blowing up. I was just bored.
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Yeah, it was less, it
was less about I mean who honestly like
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unless you're, I don't know,
latest flavor musical act of the day,
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it's really hard to make a living
as a musician. So, Um,
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the songwriting end of things, I
like being behind the scenes. I think
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that's kind of where the whole voiceover
thing kind of took hold, because I
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like being behind the scenes. I
don't want to be a film actor or
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a theater actor or anything like that. So being able to do this behind
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the scenes and use my voice,
which I really enjoy doing, that kind
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of really appealed to me. And
songwriting, in the same way, appealed
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to me for that reason as well, because songwriting is kind of the background
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of the musical performance, right you
have a good song, then you have
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a good performance, but you're not
the one who's actually out there on stage
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singing or performing all the time.
So yeah, that it was interesting.
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That's a pretty cool story because,
you know, I spent a lot of
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years behind the scenes as well and
I honestly loved it, like I really
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did have a lot of fun.
I feel like there was pressure, but
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it wasn't the same kind of pressure
as like being front and center, being
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lead singer or whatever. Um.
And so now that I'm kind of the
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lead singer of my band, you
guys, podcast is yeah, I feel
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like there right show guys listen.
Um. So, so when you're moving,
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when you're moving into it, were
you like studying other people, or
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did you just start like practicing,
recording your voice, listening back, like
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what does what does that look like? Because, like when I started podcasting,
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like I be, I just studied
podcasting like everyone. I listen to
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every style of podcasts ever and just
to try to figure that out. Is
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that the same for you? Well, I think that it can be.
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If you really want to go your
own route, you can. You can
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definitely try and observe what's out there, but I think that unless you get
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actual coaching, it's really not going
to help you, because you need to
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know the background of all of this. So there's a reason why there are
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certain types of voiceover reads that are
popular, and it has to do with
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what's happening in the world. It
has to do with Um, you know,
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like in our in our every day
right now, people's B s ometers
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are so high right now, like
you can't at all sound like you're selling.
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That's the thing. So if you're
going to do commercials or corporate narration
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or anything like that and actually have
people want to pay you for it?
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It does require acting and it does
require being subtle, being real, being
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able to be enthusiastic about something without
sounding like you're overdoing it, like you're
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working too hard. You know what
I mean, and that is that's big.
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That's really big. Also, this
is a really Um, a really
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unnatural environment to be recording where you're
supposed to sound natural. Yeah, yeah,
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well, because when I share a
little bit with you before the show,
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like I have a sponsor and they
send us a script. You know,
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one of our sponsors doesn't, the
other one send us a script and,
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Um, and I just look at
the thing and I'm like, I
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don't even know how you how this, read this, like it's all in
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caps, and so I think it's
like my mother texting me and I'm like,
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you know what, I'm just gonna
Scream this into my microphone as loud
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as I can, like go get
your mother's Day gift or whatever, you
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know, whatever it says. So
when I hear someone like you and I
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and I, you know, listen
to your in a US sound like you're
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just telling somebody a story or you
know, you're just not even it didn't
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sound like you're reading at all.
And and I'm over here like stuttering,
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like reading my notes off, and
I can record like fifty times to get
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this thirty second piece that I really
wanted to be fifteen seconds, but it
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is not gonna happen. Um.
So that's pretty interesting. So so step
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one, if I was going to
get into voice, and we'll just use
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me as an example, or someone
watching. And we got, by the
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way, we got some fans of
yours. We get Rothfield in the house,
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we got Jim, Jim Fuse in
the house. Is Hey Joe,
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and we had Chris in the house. And UH, yeah, she it
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is the voice. It's the voice
of many. You know, I listened
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to a podcast, Um the UH, Oh gosh, I'm gonna say the
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wrong podcast, podfast. I listened
to that podcast. So I get to
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listen to the voice every week with
the with the intro or whatever the frequency
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of their show is. Um.
So, so step one, billy,
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you want to become a voice actor, go get from coaching. Is that
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what you would say? Definitely.
What do I mean? Obviously I know
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you're on the show so I can
bring you up. I know you do
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that, but if I don't know
anyone, like where would I go?
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Where would I go like find two
or three and vet down? Or how
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do I vet nowm like, what
does that even look like? You know,
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there's a website called voice over extra
dot com and it's voice over x
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t r a dot com and I
highly recommend that website. The reason I
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do is because it has all a
lot of the well known coaches do articles
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and write articles for the website,
and so you'll see that there are offering
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classes. Some of them are group
classes. So what you could do is,
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rather than do a one on one
which can be expensive. You know,
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you're talking anywhere from let's say eighty
bucks an hour to two hundred,
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two hundred and fifty bucks an hour, depending on the coach, so that
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could be very expensive for people starting
off. If you want to do a
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group thing, though, that's probably
like fifty buck us. You get to
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read for that person. You may
be reading with other people, maybe eight
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to ten other people, so it
keeps the cost down for you and everyone
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and you can watch it later on, because usually they'll record it and you
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can try out different genres. So
you may want to do commercially. You
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may also want to do video games. You may also want to do animation,
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you may want to do audio books, you may want to do medical
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narration. You know, if you
happen to have a background in medical and
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you can say all those words really
easily, you've kind of got it made,
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you know. So you just blew
my mind there a little bit.
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I did not realize that there's different
in which I should because there's different genres
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of music, of podcasts, of
live streams, all that kind of fun
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stuff. But I did not realize
there's different genres of voice acting. And
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that makes sense because you know,
and I heard you do a medical ad
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not too long ago. I was
watching your your highlight reel there, and
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I was like yeah, I even
I had that very same thought, jody.
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I was like, how in the
world does she know those words like
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that? Is such crazy words to
be you sing. But that's something to
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take into consideration, I guess,
if I'm trying to get into it to
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be where I can pronounce it well, you know what. So maybe I
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could do the Alphabet Book for children, because I know I can do that.
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That's it. You know, you
don't necessarily need to do medical narration.
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Honestly, I don't do a whole
lot of it. I do a
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lot of healthcare ads, I do
a lot of healthcare narrations, but I
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don't tend to do the heavy medical
terms, those sorts of things. Not
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Usually. So every once in a
while, you know, things like Kiscali,
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I think, is what you're hearing. Every once in a while that
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that will come up and you know
I'll do something like that, but it's
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it's it's rare for me. But
I do tend to do mostly Um commercials
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and corporate narrations. So a lot
of the anthem videos on big company websites
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that you see like the you know, this is who we are and we're
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proud those types of videos that you
see on on company websites. And Uh,
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I love doing tourism and travel stuff, so lately I've been doing a
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lot of that. There's actually something
out there right now for visit Alberta.
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So yeah, they're there. Are
A lot of fun. It's just that
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whole anthem idea, that whole um
getting people as excited about something as as
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they are. You know, yeah, that's only people. Yeah, and
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that's like a tough that's a tough
thing to do, I feel like because,
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like I said, I'm just reading, I mean my voice over work.
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I'll quote air quotes for people listening. Is literally reading a script that
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someone that brand sent me for my
show. And I want to crush you,
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I want to do a great job, but I really just don't understand
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it. So that that would probably
be, you know, like you said,
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step on one, go get some
coaching, maybe the group, maybe
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the one on one Um. So
is there like I'm sure there's some people,
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you know, there's some people that
can just sing and then there's me,
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like I can't. So like,
well, at what point do you
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do people just tell you, like
are there good coaches that will just say,
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you know what, this isn't for
you, maybe you should be a
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hand model, like what does that
look like? You know, I it
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depends on the coach. But yeah, there are a lot of coaches out
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there who are very good about telling
you whether or not you should be pursuing
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this. But but you know,
at the same time, I don't think
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they're likely to tell you that,
unless maybe you have a speech impediment or
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you have a problem reading the scripts
maybe, and you just need to get
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better at reading them. Um,
sounding like you're not reading is another another
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thing. That really means that you
kind of need to read fairly quickly and
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be a little ahead in the script. So if if you're not, you
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know, if you're not used to
reading out loud to somebody, it could
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become difficult for you. That makes
sense. So I should have probably raised
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my hand more in fifth grade and
said, you know what I mean,
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do it. I'm sorry, Miss
Bettis, I know you told me I
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should have raised my hand more.
You will always find it useful, all
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right. So, alright, so
I love this that you're kind of breaking
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down for us how to get into
this business because, you know, I
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feel like there's probably a lot of
podcasts. Actually, I know there's a
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lot of podcasters. I listened to
that. I just listened to their voice
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and go wow, that is they
could just read me a book or put
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me to sleep or wake me up
or whatever. Um, and they might
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be missing out on an opportunity for
a career, you know, similar to
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you, or additional income or something
of that nature. So once, once
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you get into the game, and
maybe you're doing some coaching or getting coached
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and your coach looks at you and
goes, all right, it's time to
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go get a job. Where do
I go to get a job? Where
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I go? Look now? Well, likely what they're going to tell you,
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before they tell you to go get
a job, although you might be
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able to, is to get a
demo. Because, yeah, you skipped
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his death exactly. So Demos are
your calling cards, you know, like
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the video that you saw that I
put together, and that is another calling
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card that happens to be of work
that I'd actually done. But in the
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case of a demo it's manufactured.
So the idea behind a demo in a
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lot of cases, not in all
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it is to showcase your voice to
the best of your ability and to
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the best of your producer's ability.
So sometimes when you do a spot,
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your voice isn't really front and center
all the time and they may have processed
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it in a strange way. It
made the it made the client happy,
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and that, ultimately, is the
bottom line, right, that's really what's
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important. But it may not be
something you want to use to showcase how
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good you are at your job.
Do you know what I mean? So
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you want to put together like this
is the this is the a package,
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like, I'm gonna do my best, I'm going to put it yeah,
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yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so they manufacture these, right.
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they will create a script. A demo
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producer will create a script for you. They'll talk with you beforehand, find
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out what you're impassioned about, what
you're interested in, what your background is,
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and they'll craft scripts for you that
will um hit you deeply enough that
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you you're your passion for it will
come through when you're performing that script.
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with you, record your voice and then
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they'll produce it all and put it
all together as a bunch of segments from
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different commercials, let's say, if
you're doing a commercial demo or different pieces
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of a narration. If you're doing
a narration demo and like Documentary Work and
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TV inshow narration work is different from
corporate narration. You know they're they're different
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genres really. So you know that. Again, scripts are different, deliveries
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might be different. There's all sorts
of things to think about in this.
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But having that demo on your website
and having a website to showcase those demos
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is going to let people know that
you are a professional, that you know
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what you're doing, and this is
how you would sound on, let's say,
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a national campaign, or this is
how you would sound on a big
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company's website, you know, and
you can sort of demonstrate that and show
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people how you might be able to
make them shine. So so I love
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kind of what you said there about, you know, these different genres,
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because I feel like you could generate
multiple, I'm not gonna say personalities,
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but multiple streams of revenue, multiple
different industries and putting together, like,
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like you said, certain type of
narrations in those different demos. So how
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often are you, or actually,
how many different types of demos do you
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have? You have one for each
niche or one for each genre? Yeah,
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mostly I do. Actually, I
think I have probably at least six,
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maybe seven or eight on my website
right now. Um, but I
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mean this is over fifteen years right. They're not. They've been updated,
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but as I go through the years
I find that I want to do certain
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genres more than others. So I've
gotten rid of some, I've added some
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others. Um, you know.
There I, for instance, have a
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policy right now where I don't do
long form narration. So I no longer
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do e learning or long medical narration
or audio books or anything like that.
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I've never done audio books. I
don't want to do audiobooks. That is
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not something I want to do.
But I have a policy where I don't
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do projects generally that are more than
five minutes of finished audio. So a
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five minute script up to five minutes
is usually a commercial or corporate narration or
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something for a website, like an
explainer or a streaming ad or you know
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that kind of stuff. They're they're
fairly short. I can get them done
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very quickly and the client has what
they need in like an hour, so
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we're all good. So that yeah, so when you're producing the well,
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when you are doing your part of
the equation, I'm sure there's way more
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than my brain is thinking about.
So we're just delivering raw files. So
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if someone called you and said Hey, I need you to do this and
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you deliver it, they send it
to another producer and they produced the final
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version of it. Exactly. Yeah, so all I do is get them
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the raw voice in a clean format, so there's nothing that they have to
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do to it, unless it's to
fit whatever video they're putting together. Um,
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and then I leave the production to
them because really they have their own
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way of doing things. But the
sooner I can get that to them,
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the sooner they can get their project
done, and I don't want to be
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the one cog that's holding everything up. Yeah, so, and I say,
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after fifteen years, you could probably
riddle out some of these in a
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day. So so in like right
know, what's happening with me is like
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the reason that I did that whole
no longer than five minutes, is because
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I can do just about anything in
probably an hour that I'm likely to get
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in a day, and that means
there are no fires to put out.
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That that just makes my life much, much less stressful. That's that's amazing.
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That's an amazing stream of revenue to
be able to uh, you know,
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obviously burning churn for a better term, you know, for a better
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term, but it's kind of like, you know, to be maximize your
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time, maximizing your voice, and
I love that. I mean, I
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think that is so and that's my
style anyway of like trying to produce,
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you know, I mean not saying
like taking the quality out, but produced,
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you know, maximum like I only
have a certain amount of days,
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like or hours, like I'm working
a day, and so those hours I'm
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trying to fill up every minute to
make sure I'm the most productive. So
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that's cool that this industry allows you
to do that and maximize your your time
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there. It's pretty cool. I
will say one thing, and that is
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that most voice actors do sell their
time for money. So it's not generally
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how long it takes you to do
it's kind of licensing, like music licensing
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for an ad. So someone is
using my voice for a certain amount of
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time in a certain geographical location.
Um, so it could be local in
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a certain area, could be regional
in a larger area, it could be
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national, so all over the US
or all over Canada, or it could
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be worldwide. So when I know
how long they're going to use it and
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how many people are going to hear
it, that's how I come up with
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the pricing. Okay, my mind
is where's that Emadi where the head explodes,
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because that's what I am right now, like yes, that I needed
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to pop up all over my head. So so you're kind of sell.
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like a CPM rate? Is that kind
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of this is not really it has
the same idea, but it's not really
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a CPM rate. Um, there's
something called the G V A, a
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rate guide, and if you if
anyone wants to check that out, you
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can see what the industry standard rates
are for a voiceover. And it goes
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from you know, television radio,
streaming audio on like Um, Sirius Xm
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or Pandora or my heart, or
pre rolls on Youtube or just being on
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the company website, which is non
broadcast. Um, possibly use in social
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media. So not paid. But
you know, the minute that something is
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being paid to be pushed out there, that's telling me that they want to
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make money from it. And if
they're there to make money from it,
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then that's licensing. That's, you
know, me asking them for a piece
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of that Pie. I love this. I think this is great because I
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did not know that. I thought
it was, you know, more of
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that one off, you know,
project price or hourly or minute, you
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know, seconds or whatever. Um, this is my project. Great.
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certainly can be a one off. I
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mean non broadcast, as I was
saying. Um, you know, when
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you're talking about things that go on
a website or go in social media and
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are not paid to be promoted further. Um, that is non broadcast.
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Usually there's a buyout for it.
It just sits on a website for however
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long they want to use it,
and that is usually a one off,
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like per project rate. But when
you're talking about broadcast and advertising and streaming
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media and all of that kind of
thing, then it gets a little more
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complicated. Yeah, this is why
you need to hire a coach. If
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you're interested in going to walk you
through it. Hold your hand. Well,
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I am not a coach, just
to let people know. I'm not
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a coach. I do not do
coaching, but I can point them in
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a good direction if I know what
their what their gold are. Ye,
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follow her on clubhouse. She does
quite a bit of coaching in there and
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helps a lot of people. So
make sure, if you're not on club
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house, be sure to follow her
follow her podcast as well. I'm just
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go ahead and promote all that while
we're here. So so this is amazing
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and I'm sorry. You know,
I know you probably answer these questions every
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day, all day long, from
people, but I'm like such a novice.
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I'm like, this is so cool, because I do use my voice
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to make money. I do use
my voice to create, and so this
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is another way of doing that.
Um. However, it is just another
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business to learn a business, to
study a business, to a craft to
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become good at so I love that
you're breaking this down and giving us the
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real look at it, because it's
really easy to say, yeah, you
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should start voice over and you should
be a voice actor. It's so easy
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and you can make lots of money, Um, but you're giving us the
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real role experience here, so I
love it. So so we go,
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we get a coach. Coach says
cool, go make a demo real.
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We make a demo real. Now
what is our next step of this?
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What do we do with this demo
real? Do we start cold calling and
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cold email and dropping dropbox files?
What do we do? You know,
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you probably could if you had some
information. Linkedin is a really good place
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to look for people who are specifically
in the genre that you want to be
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promoting yourself, because that is a
business network and people are assuming that if
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you contact them, you are a
business. Um, definitely have a website.
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You need a website to have those
demos living on and you need to
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have some kind of indication of what
kind of a person you are, because
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people work with people they know,
like and trust. Right. So you
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have to have an opportunity to give
people a place where they can get to
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know you a little. And once
you've figured that out, then I mean
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you know you can. You start
small. You start where, you start,
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where you live. You know,
start talking to local businesses, start
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talking to everybody you know in your
life. Who who? Just tell them
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what you're doing. I'm doing voice
over. You know, if you happen
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to know anyone, you know,
you can go to my website, have
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a listen and and look at what
I'm doing and uh yeah, and it's
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amazing how many people you can reach
in just that way. But if you
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offer, let's say, Um,
to do a voiceover for like a local
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charity or something like that, and
you may not charge anything that time,
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but you know, you may charge
a little bit or they may give you
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an honorarium or something like that,
and you can get in with them.
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Um, maybe the local chapter uses
you for something and then the national chapter
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comes and ask you for something.
You know you don't know. So that's
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good advice. Yeah, and I
love it because that is small business advice.
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Like if anybody's listening to this and
you're like, because this is a
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small business and I love it that
you know, and I know that you
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have a lot of talking points about
being a small business owner and being a
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solo preneurs and everything you're saying is
every way I've ever done a small business
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is to go with the people you
know, that know you and and to
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start telling people and you'll be amazed
at how they'll support you. And I
410
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.759
think that's the key to it.
And when you give, like you said,
411
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.279
like go find a nonprofit, go
find a charitable organization, to find
412
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.799
somebody who another small business and just
like do them a solid and they're going
413
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to be your biggest promoter, especially
when that voiceover comes out or that that
414
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:14.359
work it comes out. So yeah, there's something I want to qualify,
415
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.160
though, with that, and that
is that the industry rates are on that
416
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.680
G V A, a rate guide. So if you look for that on
417
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.079
the Internet you find it really easy. Those are the general industry rates and
418
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.039
there's a range, so there's a
load to a high, and what I
419
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:34.000
would say is, if you're going
to give away your work, do it
420
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.079
for something you're passionate about. Don't
just give away your work because you don't
421
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:44.240
think you have enough experience, because
any voice actor who's shunning who has put
422
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:48.119
out their shingle and said they are
a professional voice actor and that's what they're
423
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.759
doing, should not be giving it
away for free. Oh, I love
424
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.480
it, I love it. This
is great. This is this is great.
425
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.720
Um, that's a good reminder for
me to even as a podcast or
426
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.559
in you know, trying to do
people solids and do people favors and help
427
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.319
them promote their business. Um,
and I just I just brought that website
428
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.599
because I'm like, I'm interested to
see what it is. Yeah, so
429
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.400
and and maybe even do it,
especially like a nonprofit. I know I've
430
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.039
done stuff for nonprofits and they'll go
hey, we'll provide you a tax,
431
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:22.039
you know, a tax form or
whatever, because that's another yeah, there's
432
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.960
nothing wrong with doing freebes for people
that you really want to help out,
433
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:32.920
or charities or nonprofits that you really
want to help out. Definitely do that.
434
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.799
If you're just starting out and you
are very passionate about a cause and
435
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:38.680
you want to make sure that you
do everything you can to help them out,
436
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:44.559
fantastic. But if some business comes
up to you and says, Oh,
437
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.559
well, you know, I need
this thing and I know you just
438
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.920
started like two weeks ago. Just
do it to me, just do it
439
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.839
for me for free, you know. No. Or do it for fifty
440
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.440
bucks or five bucks or whatever,
you know, like they're gonna toss your
441
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:03.839
way right. No, I just
don't do that. Yeah, yeah,
442
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.319
yeah, and then that happens in
so many creative fields I can't even really
443
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.200
I see people all the time like
hey, if you're an intern or if
444
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.960
you just graduated college and you need
some portfolio work, like, do work
445
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:18.599
for me for free, and I'm
like, you're not just vomit when I
446
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.960
read those things on facebook. I
can't believe that. And if your business
447
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.599
owner, don't do that. Okay, that's no. No. For what
448
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.640
it's worth, there's there's also something
to be said for people who go on
449
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.720
Fiver, and I you know,
I want to mention this because I know
450
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.960
that some sometimes going to fiber is
your only option, and I understand that.
451
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.119
But if you are a professional and
you are asking for professional rates,
452
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:48.759
don't go to fiber, because that's
basically being a hypocrite. So are people
453
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.400
on five or not? Because I
was listening to a podcast the other day
454
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:57.640
in a different industry and this lady
started out kind of doing the five dollar
455
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.319
thing and then all of a sudden
she was like, yeah, I'm just
456
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:06.359
charging normal rates, but the customer
bases like ginormous there, and so she's
457
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.799
now they do take a big,
hefty fee. So yeah, and it
458
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:14.680
takes a lot of work to make
a good living there. Yeah, maybe
459
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.559
that's not as lucrative as that podcast
episode made it out to me. I
460
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.400
always wonder. I have to wonder, and I'm not saying you can't make
461
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.599
money on there. You totally can, and you can charge rates that you
462
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.799
think are reasonable. But when I
look at the people who are on five,
463
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:37.880
at least in the voice acting area, you know, yeah, you
464
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.119
can't charge what you think are the
going rates, but what they think are
465
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:47.359
the going rates are actually probably less
than the going rates. Do you know
466
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.160
what I mean? Like, like
there's there's a lot going on there.
467
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.440
There's a lot to unpack. I'm
not gonna like Poo Poo all over people
468
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:57.279
who go to fiber and who are
on fiber. It's just like it's it's
469
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.599
a marketplace like any other. But
all I'm saying is, if you expect
470
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:07.079
to be paid fair market rates for
what you are doing creatively. Hey,
471
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:13.359
fame, fair market rates to other
people doing creative things. where, where
472
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.799
is the handclap button over here?
My God, I love it, you
473
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.519
know, and I think that is
so important for people to really and other
474
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.799
creators as well. You know,
this is the thing that I try to
475
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.960
tell content creators and podcasters, live
streamers. It's if you see it,
476
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:30.839
buy me a coffee, pop up, buy someone a coffee like that,
477
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:35.720
because it's building that culture within the
industry to say hey, this is what
478
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.279
people do, like we go buy
coffees and then that creator goes, Oh,
479
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.519
I want to give a shout out
to to jody for buying me a
480
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:44.599
coffee. Then, Oh, somebody
bought your coffee, I'M gonna go buy
481
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.799
a coffee too, and so it
creates this momentum in the industry to to
482
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:51.839
really help people out, and so
I love that you mentioned that, like
483
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.599
pay the rate, pay the fair
market rate to get the job done.
484
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.680
In that way we can up level
the whole industry and I love that.
485
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.519
Like you can tell my small bit
my my love of small business is kind
486
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.920
of dripping out here, but I
love I love Love, love that talking
487
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.519
point. Yes, we are.
We are all small businesses. I mean
488
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.839
especially those of us who are doing
creative things as a solo preneurs. You
489
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:21.559
know, that's and that's that's important. It's important for people to understand that,
490
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.160
even though you can't hold this product
in your hand, it is something
491
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:31.119
worth paying for. Yeah, well, it's like to realize all these things
492
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.200
that we're doing, that we're doing
every day to get better at even you
493
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.000
know this, this episode, this
podcast episode, this livestream show, it
494
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:43.839
didn't happen overnight, like it's taken
lots and lots of work to figure out
495
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.480
this skill and this craft and,
Um, and I think for people getting
496
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:51.039
into it, just like anything,
it's like treat it as a craft and
497
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.119
learn the craft, just like if
you were going to become a doctor or
498
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.599
a lawyer. You know. So
I think so many times, like we
499
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.920
put the stamp of like, you
know, awesome on a doctor than like
500
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:04.000
the stamp of like okay, whatever, on a creator and it's just like,
501
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.279
I'm like, what are you talking
about? It's just as hard,
502
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.920
like it's just as complicated. Sure, if I mess up my skill,
503
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:15.280
I don't kill somebody. That's I
give that to you, but otherwise it's
504
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.280
still pretty hard to to make it
as a creator in this world and and
505
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.320
do that kind of stuff. So
so, Jodie, first of all,
506
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.000
I appreciate you coming on the show. I appreciate you dropping all this knowledge
507
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.719
and I don't know where I was
in the process of getting work. But
508
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.280
if there's there's anything that you wanted
to to leave us with or encourage the
509
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.280
audience with if they're looking to get
into this, I'd love to give you
510
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.320
a few minutes just to you know, share, share some more of your
511
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.000
knowledge and I want to encourage people
to connect with you as well and just
512
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.760
really follow you, because I think
success leaves clues and there's a lot of
513
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.599
clues that that you leave and and
a lot of that you give to the
514
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.639
world of voice actors and podcasters and
live streamers stuff. If there's something you
515
00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:00.400
want to share about it kind of
the end of the process, you would
516
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:06.639
love to uh yeah, I mean
we were talking about how to find the
517
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:10.360
work, which, Um, that's
a good option to go locally and figure
518
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.760
that out and tell everybody that you
know that that's what you're doing and you
519
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:21.000
know, referring your colleagues is also
a really good way to make friends and
520
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:27.599
uh, and getting to know people
a lot. Um really the voiceover Um.
521
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:34.679
The community that I'm aware of is
Um mostly on facebook. So I
522
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.639
am in a number of facebook groups. There are a huge number of them
523
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:43.440
and you can just check out many
of those groups and join a few and
524
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.119
ask questions there and, you know, get to know people. So getting
525
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:51.639
to know your colleagues is a really
good thing. Um. There's also a
526
00:35:52.159 --> 00:36:00.719
industry association called World Voices Part of
me, which I believe is World Dash
527
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:07.320
Voices Dot Org. I believe,
Um, but you can look it up.
528
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.079
It's just called world voices. So
if you look at the Industry Association
529
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:16.639
joining that, there are mentors there, there are all sorts of resources and
530
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.280
things like that that you can look
into and it's a good place to be.
531
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:23.239
M. Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, it's cool. Yeah,
532
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:30.800
World Dash voices dot or hyphen say
that. Yeah, this is why I
533
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:36.440
can't read scripts, because that's just
about hyphen Um. So yeah, that
534
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:42.519
is that's an amazing world dot or
world hyphen voices dot org is the website.
535
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.519
So make sure you guys can check
that out and I feel like we
536
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.280
could talk for days about the business
of voice over, because we've I feel
537
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.559
like we described like the little bit
of the surface, because I'm over here
538
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.440
like what about cartoon work? What
you know? And about this? What
539
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:58.840
about games? What about this?
You know? So I know that you
540
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:02.760
could probably go, you know,
on for for several hours about this industry
541
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.840
and I think it's really neat that
you have so much power in your voice
542
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:14.320
to go and create streams of revenue
with with a microphone and so. So
543
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:16.679
what real quick, because I'm a
nerd when it comes to gear. What
544
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:21.679
what is the gear that you use, or is there a certain type of
545
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.239
gear? How complicated is it?
How what does that look like? Well,
546
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.079
you can sort of see the booth
behind me. Um, there,
547
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:36.119
I mirrored. Um, the booth
is five by four. It's sound treated.
548
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.079
It's not sound proved. So it's
really hard to get something completely sound
549
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.800
proof. It can be done,
but it's very, very expensive to do
550
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.360
less expensive, still a little pricey, but less expensive to do a booth
551
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.480
that is sound treated and Um,
that inside that booth I have a Sindheiser
552
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:58.360
for sixteen, which is a shotgun
Mike, and I'm using an audio interface
553
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:04.800
called the Steinber, you are twenty
two C and uh, that is basic.
554
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.519
You know that. In my computer
are basically what I use and I
555
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:13.440
edit on adobe audition in the clouds, so the latest version. And I'm
556
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.159
on a PC, which isn't the
usual. I know that a lot of
557
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:21.119
people are using Max for audio editing, but I've been on pc since toss,
558
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.239
so I'm used to PCS. All
right, yeah, Hey, you
559
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:28.079
own it, if you if you
love it, go for it. Yeah.
560
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.679
Well, thanks for sharing that.
And I think you know that's another
561
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.440
thing that Um, that people considers
the microphone. So so is it a
562
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.320
condenser? Is it picking up everywhere? or well, you said shotguns,
563
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:42.320
so it's more it is the shotguns. That's very directional. Yeah, but
564
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:46.079
but it is a condenser Mike.
Yeah, that's picking up all the the
565
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.199
clarity. I mean that's gonna film. I mean obviously that sounds really good.
566
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.159
So so, and I guess these
people are. They're taking it their
567
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.400
companies, their producers. Um,
are you shocked when it comes back?
568
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.559
Are you're like wow, that they
really did too much process saying, or
569
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.400
do you like really have an opinion, or you're like thanks for my check,
570
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:07.000
see you later. I'm kind of
like thanks for my check. Honestly,
571
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.440
I mean, you know, it's
interesting to hear it. I always
572
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:15.400
love hearing my voice out in the
wild. Like, you know, I'm
573
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.639
spending in a restaurant and a television
above the bar is playing a commercial.
574
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.920
I did like that's just cool.
Has Anybody ever been like wait, that
575
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:30.239
sounds like you, like bartender.
Yeah, now, that is a funny
576
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.280
you know, because when I was
when I was playing music a lot when
577
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.920
I was younger, if I went
to a concert, I almost couldn't enjoy
578
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:42.800
it because I was so like caught
up in the how to or whatever.
579
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.159
I'm not really like that with podcasting
as much, because I'm more of the
580
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.400
you know, like more of the
business side of it, trying to generate
581
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.760
revenue, not really the production side. But do you find yourself that way
582
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.199
too, like, oh my gosh, I can't even listen to this anymore.
583
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.639
I could get out of here.
You know, it's less about voiceovers
584
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:02.000
and more about music. It sounds
really strange to say, but when I
585
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:07.000
am relaxing, I don't listen to
music. I need peace and quiet.
586
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.079
That's that's the weird thing. Like
I'm a singer right. So you think,
587
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.199
Oh, I'd want to listen to
music all the time, but no,
588
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.880
I kind of don't, because what
happens for me is I do like
589
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.119
you were saying. I analyze it
a lot and when I'm analyzing it I
590
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:28.280
can't relax listen. Yeah, it
gives me a headache. Are you still
591
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.039
putting together albums? I know you're. You put your jazz album out and
592
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.920
blues and stuff like that. Are
you're still working on your music career?
593
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.119
Not Really, to be honest.
I do a lot of backups for colleagues
594
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.719
of mine, friends that want to
back up singing. Um, you know,
595
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.280
I would do something for a jingle, but you know, again,
596
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.960
jingles singing is one of those things
where generally they want like a higher voice
597
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.760
than mine is. Mine's Very Alto
and and like a bit lower register.
598
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.079
So you know, if you want
like Katie Perry, you're not coming to
599
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:08.599
me right. So, yeah,
that's so funny. Don't don't call me.
600
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.119
I'm not singing anything, that's for
sure. My wife would be like,
601
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.199
honey, don't try, I actually
need to make money. Alright,
602
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:20.440
stop wasting time. Uh Well,
jody, I really appreciate you coming on.
603
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.880
I would love to have you back
on because I know we could dive
604
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:27.360
into audio branding and I know you
you know a plethora about just audio in
605
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.159
general. Um, way more than
what we dove into today, and I
606
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.000
got on a little rabbit trail of
voiceover because I'm so curious about it and
607
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.440
I think there's a lot of other
creators who, hopefully they're curious as well,
608
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:39.760
and can you know, and they
have those really good voices. Like
609
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:43.760
I saw some people in the chat
where I'm like, HMM, that person
610
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.440
has a really good voice. So
last question, as I'm landing the plane
611
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:52.559
for the third time here. Okay, do you ever find yourself like you
612
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.400
got a great voice, I want
to recruit you and teach you this business?
613
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Like, have you ever come across
those people, or is that not
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even like like people talking to me
saying that I'm saying for you someone else.
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Yeah, yeah, you, as
someone who's in that industry, you're
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like wow, you crush it,
like let me, let me introduce you
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to somebody or anything like. Have
you ever just had those moments? You
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know, it's actually no, and
and the reason that I haven't is because
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it's less about the sound of your
voice and more about what you do with
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it. So someone who's already a
really good actor. Yeah, sure,
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I mean I can definitely introduce people
to the right the right people. Yeah,
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I know demo producers out there.
In fact, we're having a clubhouse
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discussion on that very topic Wednesday.
Um, not this coming Wednesday. I
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think it's in the schedule, but
we have chats Wednesdays at two PM Eastern
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on clubhouse in the power of sound
club and one of them is going to
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be about why get coaching, and
so I have a bunch of really well
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known coaches that are going to be
on that panel talking about why it's important
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to have a coach. All right, that's all right. Yeah, but
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no, I I don't tend to
just hear someone's voice and go ha ha,
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I must know who you are like
that. Just that that doesn't happen,
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because it's so funny, because I
hear people, especially on Clubhouse,
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on these audio APPs. They're like, Oh, you have a great voice
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for radio, you have great voice
for voiceover, and but what you just
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said, it's more about the talent
or the skill of acting than it is
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about the voice. So it's about, you know, like a singer,
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it's like you can sing, but
can you really sing? Can you really
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control you alost? Can you make
people feel? Right? Like that's really
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what it is. You're you're trying
to make people feel. And when it
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comes to voice acting, it's a
discussion. It's actually a dialogue the other
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person. You may not hear that
other person, but it is actually a
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dialogue that you're having with someone else. So you're blowing my mind right now
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with a little just these little,
these little things you're putting in here.
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I'm like, wow, okay,
this is think about this. But that's
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the act ting aspect of it,
right, because you have to have a
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really good theater of the mind to
be able to have this script and perform
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it as if you are actually talking
to someone in that moment. I love
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this. That's a whole another topic, the theater of the mind. That's
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something I hear in your rooms a
lot and it's Um it's definitely something,
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I think that even podcasters can get
better at. Live streamers, I mean,
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we talked to ourselves the time.
It's like to have to be able
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to creatively have that dialogue. It
is very powerful. So that's Um,
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you got my mind. Now you
get my mind even more. Where's that
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EMOGIA? Where's that? Talking a
padded room all day? So yeah,
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I'm looking around to myself wait to
get way. The only thing missing is
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the jacket. I'll get you one
for Christmas. I'll send it up to
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you. Well, jody, I
really appreciate you coming on the show and
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I believe I've linked all your website
and everything in the show notes. So
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there might be people listening to this
who need your services or want your services.
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So I want them to feel free
to reach out to you and then
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also join your clubhouse room on Wednesday
at two PM Eastern time. Is that
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correct? Ye, and I helped
listen to the podcast and listen to your
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show, which I'm I'm gonna put
all that in the in the show notes
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there. I'll make sure I get
it right and and really appreciate you being
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on the show. This is amazing. So thank you so much. Thanks
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so much for having me. Really
enjoyed this all right, absolutely well.
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Thank you everyone for joining, for
jumping in. If you're watching live,
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thanks for jumping into the chat.
I see triple Oh Adam, triple eight
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Adams. What's up, my man? Good to see you it's been a
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minute since I've seen you. So
good to see there. Good to see
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Chris and Jim and Raphael and all
the people who jumped in there. Really
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appreciate that. And you guys go
follow jody. I'm telling you, she
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is a wealth of information, as
you can obviously tell. and Um,
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next time I'M gonna study a little
bit more. That way I can ask
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better, smarter questions, because I
was like, man, I'm an amateur
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voice actor enthusiasts. Not Really,
but anyhow. Um, so join me
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Thursday. I'M gonna be back Thursday
at four PM with Richard Butler. He
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has been podcasting, I'm pretty sure, since podcasting became a thing, and
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so we're gonna dump and we're gonna
jump into the history of podcasting in and
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kind of jump into that and see. You know someone who's been in there
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for a long time. What does
he think about the start? What do
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you think about where it's going and
all that kind of stuff. So be
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sure to join me, Richard Butler, four PM Eastern time on Thursday.
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What's up, GOB says. What's
up everyone? UH, studying is for
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nerds, Billy Thorpe. That's right, man. That is right. I
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love studying, always learning something new. All right, well, you guys,
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go ahead to record button, go
create something great and we'll talk to
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you soon. m
