April 5, 2022

Live Streaming For Your Local Business

Live Streaming For Your Local Business
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Creating Daily

Ben Rogers of Performance Medicine joins me to share his experience and the benefits of live streaming for a local business.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.360 And now here's something we are really like. You're listening to creating daily. 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:09.960 There's something wrong with you. You know that because you and I are like 3 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:13.800 a mullet is the is the business. So he's the front part of the 4 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:17.559 haircut and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're hilarious. 5 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:23.679 Speaks to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. What is going 6 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:27.399 on? Everybody? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. I'm your host, 7 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.079 Billy Thorpe. This is your first time joining me, than thank you 8 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:32.520 so much for checking out the show. If you've been here before, then 9 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:36.280 thanks again. Be Sure to say hello and the nearest chat to you wherever 10 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:40.439 you're watching that we're I think we're a few different platforms, but next week 11 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:43.320 we're going to be narrowing it down even more. We're going to be on 12 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.960 bullhorn and just you to Youtube and bullhorn. Okay, we're going to eliminate 13 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.479 everything else. Maybe we'll talk about why here in a few minutes with my 14 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:55.560 friend Ben Rogers, who's joining me here in a few minutes from performance medicine, 15 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:59.600 and this guy is a content creation monster. Like he creates so much 16 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:03.880 content. I'm excited to jump in and talk to him about creating content for 17 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:07.920 a local business and what it's been doing for their local company as they are 18 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:14.400 creating these super engaged live streams. I noticed coming on a lot, like 19 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.239 almost every day. I don't know the frequency. We're going to jump into 20 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:21.319 it later, but stay tuned. I got a couple of segments before we 21 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.400 jump in there in the first segment is a new one, so let's go 22 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:30.280 ahead and check it out. What it's till time with creating daily. All 23 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:32.760 right, that was going to actually going to say tool time with timmy, 24 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:34.120 but then I thought about the home improvement show and I'm like, you know, 25 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.760 I subconsciously got that name from that home improvement show and I'm bring going 26 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.000 to get sued by somebody. But Anyway, somebody reached out to me from 27 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.840 my community and said, billy, why don't you share more tools that you 28 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:49.719 use? Use all kinds of stuff and every time you talk about something I've 29 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:52.480 never heard of it. So why don't you talk about more tools that use? 30 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:53.560 So I okay, you know what, we'll do a toull time segment 31 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.640 here on creating daily, and so this first tool I'm going to talk about 32 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.400 is pod page. So if you're a podcaster, this is something you probably 33 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:05.799 need. If you don't have a website, you need a website, one 34 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:09.439 website, Seo blog, all that stuff matters to get your content discovered, 35 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:13.759 and so pod page has made it super, super easy. I use this 36 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:17.039 for all my podcasts. I have one account, I have multiple podcasts on 37 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:22.280 that account and you can build literally a podcast website and about five minutes. 38 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.879 So I'm going to jump over real quick to just show you what that looks 39 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:28.759 like. Oh, I got all kinds of screens over here. Let me 40 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:32.199 fix this real quick and did to do a quick reset before before I jumped 41 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:37.120 in here. So let me let me fix this. Here we go. 42 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:38.719 So this is my pod page website. You can see it. A built 43 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:44.039 this in like five minutes. Super Super Easy, not very hard to do 44 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.360 it at all. And Anyway, it brings in the RSS feed. It 45 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:50.800 allows you to connect all these places. You can put contact forms on their 46 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:54.039 episode pages, guests and take forms, all kinds of crazy stuff. So 47 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:58.520 that is one of my favorite podcasting tools. So there go for the tool 48 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:02.360 time segment. Now let's get into highlighting some creator. Creator in my world, 49 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:07.039 in my community here we go. Creator highlights. New cooking necessary. 50 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:13.840 Now Assembly required. It's got to be fuck all right. Today's creator highlights 51 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:17.479 brought to my my friends over at Mayvin coffee, literally the world's best coffee 52 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:21.240 in my opinion, but also in the opinion of others, because the farms 53 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.759 that they work with have gotten voted to be the world's number one coffee. 54 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:29.680 It's hand all this stuff is hand selected. They work with really small farms, 55 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:34.159 so it's created in what's called microlots or small batches, and men this 56 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:38.639 stuff is good. So go to Maven coffeecom and you can order some coffee 57 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.400 from there or if you're in the Wilmington, North Carolina area, look them 58 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:45.000 up. They got a little espresso, Bart Espresso. I always say expresso 59 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:49.199 or something, but anyway. So those guys are awesome. In the Creator 60 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.360 highlight goes to my friends sid and meadows, which I see him already jumping 61 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.639 in the chat. He is a podcast host of the Amazing Entrepreneurs Club. 62 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:00.199 So that is what I'm going to highlight today. So go check that podcast 63 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.800 out. He is interviewing a lot of cool entrepreneurs on that show. You 64 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.759 can learn a lot. But SID is also a business strategist. He's a 65 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:13.240 high performance coach and he loves to help entrepreneurs and small businesses create, implement, 66 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.480 implement and leverage digital sales strategies to build their brand and grow their business. 67 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.319 He is always given back to the community and he's going to be with 68 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:25.279 me on Fridays. I've pulled his arm, twisted his leg, or whatever 69 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.560 you say, and he's going to come on Friday's we're gonna do some fun 70 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:30.439 stuff on Friday. He's been on a couple times already, but I'm going 71 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.839 to be heaven as a rotating guest. So anyway, get look forward to 72 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:38.240 that. But go check out the amazing entrepreneurs club. Super Good podcast. 73 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:41.120 Now I'm going to shut up a little bit. I'm going to bring my 74 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:45.519 friend been on, amazing creator, awesome, awesome creator, and we're going 75 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:48.120 to talk about all this fun stuff alive streaming. And just before we get 76 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:49.759 start, you know what, I'm not going to bring attention to it. 77 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:53.839 Just forget about that. And then we're gonna have a little qua session and 78 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:57.040 if you have questions, you can leave them at any point and I'll try 79 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.079 to scroll back through the chat. Just leave a que Cole and then your 80 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.000 question and then if you're watching over on bullhorn, you can just get into 81 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:09.759 the question section and drop your question there. All Right, any questions? 82 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:12.120 Put them in the chat with Q coing. All right, awesome. So 83 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:16.680 let me go ahead and bring on my friend Ben Rogers. been is good 84 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.319 to see man. How are you? What's going on? Man? I'm 85 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:23.639 so happy to be here. You doing okay, man, I'm doing good. 86 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:26.680 I'm doing good. I appreciate you. You jumping on really kind of 87 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:30.439 last minute. I know I was reaching out to some people and you know 88 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.040 I've been friends with your family for a long time and your mom's like Hey, 89 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.399 bin is obviously creating every single day. Like you got to have him 90 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.079 on the show, and this she going to come on the show, I 91 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.959 think next week. So yeah, then, who knows, may I'll just 92 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:46.439 keep calling your family members and having on the show. That should be some 93 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:53.240 entertaining creating dailies with with some of the Rodgers clan. But Man, I 94 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:57.319 really appreciate you having me on here. I'm looking forward to to the conversation. 95 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:00.439 Yeah, man, so the last time? Yeah, well, actually, 96 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.000 you guys should just have the Rogers show, like you should just write 97 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.720 all of you on the one show. That would be a show. But 98 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:08.439 then the last time we caught up, I think it was almost a year 99 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.639 ago, I jumped on the creative you know, just kind of a brainstorm 100 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:15.879 call with you and your mom and we're talking about your guys, content creation 101 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.800 and all that kind of stuff, and at that point you guys were creating 102 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:23.639 multiple shows, I mean crazy amounts of shows. Is that still kind of 103 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:28.680 your workflow right now? Yeah, yeah, it's still our workflow and I 104 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:34.000 think we have we have two, two shows that go up weekly and then 105 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:40.560 we have a live Qa show every Tuesday nights. Will be doing that tonight. 106 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:44.199 So say, yeah, about three to four shows go up every single 107 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:49.560 week and then we pull from that each week to kind of just burst all 108 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:54.480 the social channels, which I'm sure we'll talk about, but but yeah, 109 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:57.639 we're still doing all the shows. Okay, awesome. And so you guys 110 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:01.680 are doing three to four show and are these all like the same show with 111 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.319 different information, or is it all different branded shows, and how are you 112 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:13.000 guys managing that? Well, you know, it's really interesting because performance medicine 113 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:18.680 is we're for medical practices. So we're brick and mortar stores that do medical 114 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:26.000 services and what we've done from a content standpoint is, you know, we 115 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:33.279 have this goal of turning these medical practices into a youtube channel and kind of 116 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:40.040 build a youtube channel on top of it. So so the shows are all 117 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:46.160 the the stars of the shows are our actual providers inside of the offices and 118 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:51.319 the content that we we put out, it's all meant to be evergreen type 119 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:57.560 content. We have a we have a show called explain this that has myself 120 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:03.319 and our nurse practitioner in our Knoxville Office, Robin Riddle, as kind of 121 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:09.560 the the expert on the show, and each episode we talked about something that 122 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:15.519 needs more explaining. So the the purpose of that show would be if you're 123 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.279 a patient at one of our clinics and you want to learn more about something 124 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:22.639 that you discussed in office with a provider, explain this as kind of the 125 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:28.199 show for that. They're short, you know, seven to ten minute shows 126 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:33.799 that go up weekly and they're just a deep dive on a very specific topic. 127 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:39.320 And and and then you know the Common Sense MD, which is my 128 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:45.879 dad's pillar show that's basically on just any sort of health and wellness topic. 129 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.440 Sometimes they're timely, sometimes are not. But you know, for instance, 130 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.919 today I think was on supplements for anxiety and you know, just topics like 131 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.120 that, and they change every single week and a lot of it's based on 132 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.320 what he's seeing in the practice with with his patients, and sometimes is based 133 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.639 on, you know, what's happening in the Internet world and what we think 134 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:16.600 needs more talking about. Yeah, man, I love there's a couple things 135 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.080 that you guys are doing that I really well. What I love that you're 136 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:22.480 creating so much content. But when you said, like we go into deep 137 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.480 dives, I think this is good for a lot of local companies to think 138 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.799 about a content creation strategy like this is to pick out that topic. Maybe 139 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.960 it's a frequently last questions or whatever. And I told you know, local 140 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.600 businesses this all the time. Like they say, Hey, what can we 141 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.080 do for a podcast? I'm like ask the questions that you get. Answer 142 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:45.559 that or answer the questions you could ask every single day all day long, 143 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.759 like that is a show that you can you know, you can show up, 144 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:52.519 you know the information, you can position yourself as kind of like the 145 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.200 authority. Now, now, Ben are you on all of these shows? 146 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.399 Are you like the main pillar host, and then you're kind of guiding the 147 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:05.519 conversations or view branched out to someone else doing those I am I host the 148 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:11.240 QA show and I host explain this. The Common Sense MD is more of 149 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:16.200 just a dialog. Oh, sorry, a monolog. You know, you 150 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.679 know that language better than I do. It's a monolog with with my dad 151 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:26.159 just talking to a camera about a topic. But I love what you said 152 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.840 as well with the QA format. Most of our ideas for topics come from 153 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:37.240 our Qa show and you know, we look at the comments every single week, 154 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.159 we look at the questions that are asked live and then we kind of 155 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:46.799 get together as a group and decide, okay, what warrants a full episode 156 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.840 on and and kind of go from there. But the QA show is probably 157 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:58.360 probably our most important show because because of all the ideas it creates, but 158 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:05.799 at the same time it provides access for people. You know that that I 159 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.480 think is kind of cool. There's not many, not many doctors out there 160 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:16.200 that that do a live Qa format show where you can ask a question live 161 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.639 and and and we get to we try to get the most of the questions 162 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.120 and sometimes we don't, but but we try our best. Yeah, man, 163 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.559 so you know, a couple things, and I was going to ask 164 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:28.919 you this question, you know, being a doctor's office doing live streaming. 165 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:33.320 Nose. Every show live? is every one of them live? No, 166 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:37.320 no, just just the QA show is live. The other to explain this 167 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:43.320 and the common sense and D are prerecorded. Okay, so we do those. 168 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.600 We batch. We batch the explain this episodes, because Robbins and Knoxville. 169 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:54.759 So we pick a we pick one afternoon a month and we bashed record 170 00:11:54.840 --> 00:12:03.759 for the common sense. MD is filmed weekly and that's very much based on 171 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.159 the personality of my dad. You know, he's very of the moment, 172 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.960 like when he's feeling something, he'll go ahead and record and we actually have 173 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:18.159 like a little recording studio and my parents basement and and they just go down 174 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:22.519 there and record and and and get that done, which was actually leads to 175 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:28.279 meet you. Like a really important point in terms of creating content based around 176 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.080 service providers. And you know what, my mom and I do all these 177 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:39.159 shows. We, you know, do the videography and we have a video 178 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.080 editor that helps us. You put it out on socials, but we've really 179 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.799 tried hard to make it as easy as possible on the providers. You know, 180 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.639 they're busy all day long seeing patients, so we have to be very 181 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:58.440 efficient in terms of how we capture content from them. So the shows are 182 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:01.919 also very specific to that. You know what's going to be, what's going 183 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:07.799 to make the most of their time. And and one of my goals, 184 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:09.440 you know, just for the you know, the people watching this and in 185 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.519 yourself, is like I would love to get to the point where, you 186 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:18.440 know, people are getting the perception that all they do is create content and 187 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.240 and that kind of would tell me that my mom and I are doing a 188 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:28.320 good job of of getting the most out of the limited time that they have. 189 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.600 Yeah, you know, I do. That's a great, great point 190 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.000 to, you know, get into this and then have a system and really 191 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.759 let this system work for you and not you work for the system. I 192 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:41.320 think a lot of content creators get in this rabbit hole and they can't they 193 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.840 dig themselves into a hole they can't get out, you know, and that's 194 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.480 and people ask me that, like, dude, you're crazy for starting creating 195 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.559 daily like add a daily show. I'm like, you might think that in 196 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.639 already. I'm just to this. Is that the third weekend? But I 197 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.919 have a system that I can now work on this show about two hours, 198 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.919 you know, every couple of days and make it, make it go and 199 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.840 make it smooth. And I got my setup, got everything, I sit 200 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.720 down and I go for it. So when you guys started creating a bunch 201 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:15.080 of contents are doing live shows, did you see that? Like other people 202 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:16.840 in that network, we're like where are these guys doing? Like, did 203 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.519 anybody kind of give you any pushback on like, man, you focus on 204 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:22.799 being a doctor, not like it, try to be a youtube star or 205 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:28.720 anything like weird like that happened? No, that that's actually it's a really, 206 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:33.600 really good point. What we haven't gotten that sort of feedback. It's 207 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.240 been the feedback we've gotten from, you know, the people who watch and 208 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:43.120 the people inside the office has been real phenomenal because, again, we're using 209 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:48.200 it as an extension of the service and I think that's really important to pull 210 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:52.480 out. It's good, yeah, to point out is, you know, 211 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:56.559 it's really an extension of what we do in office. And you know, 212 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.159 one of the things I was thinking a lot of about as we kind of 213 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.720 went down this road a couple years ago was, you know, we do 214 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:11.200 a lot of like hormone therapy, you know, kind of personal stuff, 215 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:15.840 you know, and it's not many people are going to like tell lots of 216 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:20.320 people about that. So what when we think of like word of mouth and 217 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:24.559 share ability, it's much easier to share a video with your friends then like 218 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:31.840 start a conversation about something that can be very personal and and and that's what 219 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.200 we really try to create. We try to create those situations. But but 220 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:39.600 no, no one's said too much about the you know, we're you guys 221 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:46.799 doing on the Internet because it's funny. Well, I think it's pretty innovative, 222 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:50.600 man, and I think you've probably you know, this depends and maybe 223 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.679 this time and in age it would be a big deal to some people. 224 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:56.879 But I thought, man, I'm curious because you know, now, on 225 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:00.000 the flip side, I know you said you've gotten a lot of feedback. 226 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:03.799 You guys get a lot of engagement on your live show, especially the QA 227 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.799 show that I've seen. So how has that affected your business? How's that 228 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.679 if you seen people come in and say, Hey, I learned about you 229 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:17.039 on facebook and come in and become a patient from it? Oh, absolutely, 230 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:22.440 you know, and and that's another another key point, like we're not 231 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:27.159 just doing this for for our health and because we think, to feel good 232 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.720 about ourselves. You you know, like you know, we're doing this for 233 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:37.679 business results and and we're trying to create a really big medical practice. And 234 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.480 so, yes, you know, it leads to new patients, it leads 235 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:48.200 to people, I think, becoming better patients because they're they're more educated on 236 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.559 the things that are available to them. So, you know, there's a 237 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.440 number of different things that play here when with the way we're going about it, 238 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.799 and at the beginning of it I was, you know, as I 239 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:06.839 was trying to explain this to to our team, our leadership team and my 240 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:11.599 dad in particular, I really what came to mind was like a picture of 241 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.559 the recycle sign. So you have those arrows where you know they're kind of 242 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.000 going in a circle, and the way I saw that, and I think 243 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:22.200 I might have explained this to you at one point when we were when we 244 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:29.000 were on a zoom call, but I see the the inoffice interactions building the 245 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:36.519 online interactions and the online interactions building the inoffice interactions. So they all build 246 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:41.319 on each other and they're all they're all meant to, like, you know, 247 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:45.000 really provide lots of value to the people who are taking their time to 248 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:49.799 watch and and kind of hang out with us and inevitably, you know, 249 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:56.960 it's led to people coming into the office wanting more specific stuff. But we're 250 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:02.960 trying to really focus on creating as much, you know, free resources as 251 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:07.680 possible, because what's ended up happening is a lot of the audience is not 252 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:12.319 local, so they're not able to actually go to the practice of ours, 253 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:18.119 but you know, they can find another integrative medical practice that's similar to ours 254 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:22.480 and have better questions to ask that provider. And and I think if we 255 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:30.759 can do that, then then I think we're really doing something cool that's bringing 256 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.400 bringing patients all over the place a lot about you. Yeah, man, 257 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.519 you know, I love what you just said there. One it's the distance. 258 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:40.319 I think a lot of content creators go. man, whom I reaching? 259 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:44.400 Even if you have a local target, it's like you're going to reach 260 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:45.880 way more people, and that's how I learned about what you guys are doing. 261 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.640 I'd moved away from the area where you guys are at and lived in 262 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.720 North Carolina and I was like, Oh wow, they're going live a lot 263 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.279 like they're doing all the stuff, and then when covid hit, I learned 264 00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:57.759 a lot about the whole, you know, a lot of treatment stuff. 265 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:02.000 I mean I'll learn a ton from your guys show and was, you know, 266 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:04.559 it actually able to recommend some people come to you and see you guys 267 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:07.000 when we were, you know, when they were having trouble with it, 268 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:10.920 and so which I think help. You know, obviously helped out a lot. 269 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:12.839 They're doing well and all. It's good, but I wouldn't have thought 270 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:17.440 about that and I wouldn't have thought about, you know, recommending my family 271 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:21.759 to come see your see your family if I didn't see the live show, 272 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:25.599 it would have just yeah, but being there every day or multiple times a 273 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.240 week, four times a week, three or four times a week, it 274 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:33.240 brings this consistent branding into my mind. It brings US consistent reminder. And 275 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.400 so, man, I love as the local business, that you kind of 276 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.599 went to your dad and went to the team said Hey, I think this 277 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:45.440 can make a difference. So what kind of marketing were you doing before creating 278 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:48.400 all this content? What were they doing then? Well, you know, 279 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:53.839 I started here eight years ago at performance medicine. I come from a tennis 280 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:59.359 coaching background and I came to kind of, you know, help build the 281 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:03.359 family business and you know, my dad brought me in. He's a he's 282 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:08.200 a physician. This is a medical practice and I'm obviously not a physician. 283 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:11.680 I'm not a clinical person at all. So, you know, my job 284 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:17.039 is always been to to grow the practice and figure out, you know, 285 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:22.000 what the succession plan is and things of that nature, and I always knew 286 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:27.759 that. At the time I was really interested in like blogging and new email 287 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:33.400 newsletters. So I really wanted to do that and at the same time I 288 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:41.680 knew that the information couldn't come from me because I'm not a doctor, and 289 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:45.160 so I started to think about, you know, how could we write an 290 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:51.640 email newsletter and write a blog post every week? So what ended up happening 291 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:56.480 was I would record my dad on on my phone and I would just ask 292 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.319 him a couple questions, kind of act like a journalist, and and then 293 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.599 I would transcribe the things that he said and put that into a blog post 294 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:08.720 and an email. So we did that. We're still doing that. So 295 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:15.440 we've been doing that for almost five years, every single week. Wow. 296 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:22.119 So so every single Tuesday we have an email go out which is, you 297 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.799 know, basically a blog post from from my dad, Dr Rodgers, and 298 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:32.759 you know, the the the innovative part came from, you know, as 299 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:38.839 podcasting became more and more like you didn't have to be Tim Ferris to do 300 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:44.799 it. Yeah, aim like man. You know, we should just we 301 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:49.240 should put out the recording as well as the transcription and and that's what we 302 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:56.599 did. So we started with a with with having a podcast, and we 303 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:00.279 did that weekly, but the only point of the podcast was to create the 304 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:07.359 email and and and then, you know, over time it became more about 305 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:11.480 the podcast than it was the email and and then we started to video it 306 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:17.720 and and Strip the audio and then started to put the video out on Youtube 307 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:23.000 as kind of like a really just a library of content, not really aiming 308 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:30.039 to build a subscriber base at all. And overtime, you know, things 309 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:37.039 just build up and and you know, you start to notice where where you're 310 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:41.279 getting some traction and then you start to focus on those channels and those mediums. 311 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:47.160 But you know, really the process is never changed. Our marketing has 312 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:55.079 always been based around educational content, mainly because it was the only thing I 313 00:22:55.079 --> 00:23:02.680 really knew how to do, you know, I we were we've tried billboards 314 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:07.839 in the past and just never had a ton of success with it. And 315 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:14.359 and you know, I just I love the idea of having multiple at bats. 316 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.920 So, you know, with with content you have, you can make 317 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:23.480 lots of small bets and and that fits my personality more than like going for 318 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:30.160 a home run. Yeah, and and our our growth has really just been 319 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.279 based off, you know, making a lot of small bets, making a 320 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:38.599 lot of mistakes and and then taking advantage of the things that that have have 321 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:47.000 worked out well and and just continuing that that process upwards. Yeah. So, 322 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.319 so I get a question for you, man. So I'm you know, 323 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.119 I work with podcasters to help them get sponsorship deals. So I would 324 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:56.319 probably come to a brand like you all to say, Hey, let us 325 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.680 be your billboard. In one of my cell's pitches that I always used. 326 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.720 Two brand is I do have a personality. I am a person. People 327 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.039 do come and listen to my show and they trust what I'm saying about content 328 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:11.839 creation or whatever in there, for or fishing, because I have a fishing 329 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:14.559 podcast as well, and they trust what we say. They're here with this 330 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:18.079 every week. We've been around for, you know, a hundred plus episodes, 331 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:22.240 and that is way more valuable than that billboard. In the question I 332 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:26.000 always get, which actually someone just asking in the comments as well is how 333 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:30.240 do I see the return on investment? So I kind of have a strategy 334 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:34.960 for brands and sponsorship deals that I coach them to keep up with this this 335 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:40.839 Roi. What how do you track Roi for your efforts to do this, 336 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:45.640 to pay your yourself, your your mom, your guys, your editor and 337 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.480 whoever else is involved? How do you track me? You know, it's 338 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:53.799 a great question really, like I said at the beginning, you know, 339 00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:00.720 we're really only looking at business result in the sense of, you know, 340 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:08.200 top line revenue. And for us again, you know, I think we've 341 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:18.160 been in such a fortunate position where we we've been on a on a gross 342 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:23.160 spurt even before the podcasts and things like that. So we've really been able 343 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:32.839 to play a long game and really go pure brand. So we're not acting. 344 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.359 I mean you know this, billy. You know podcasting in Youtube. 345 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:41.759 You know it's not a direct marketing effort. You know, like I'm not 346 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:48.400 looking at you know, what's coming exactly from a blog post we wrote or 347 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.759 anything like that. We're really hoping that all of our content is kind of 348 00:25:52.799 --> 00:26:00.519 evergreen. So you know, I don't know exactly. You know how much, 349 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:07.160 how many patients are coming from a certain piece of content that we create. 350 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:11.119 But what I do know is I do know engagement and I do know 351 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:15.960 what people are saying in the office. So, you know, in addition 352 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:22.039 to looking at revenue and making sure that our revenues going up, I'm also 353 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.960 paying attention to our staff that's inside the office when they tell me that, 354 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:32.599 you know, you know so and so said something about the episode we did 355 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:38.440 on, you know, Dha and so. That to me is more qualified. 356 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:45.400 What do you call it? Sorry, quality data versus, you know, 357 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:52.599 numbers based, but but it's a really it's a great question. We're 358 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:57.240 fortunate that we're able to, like I said, really go after a brand 359 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.400 play, which I think is really the better way to do it, if 360 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.119 you can. You know, I also understand that, you know, not 361 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:08.839 everybody you need to make sales like you need to make money on your investment. 362 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:17.680 I think content is a long play, but I think ultimately you will 363 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:23.680 see more roy on that investment then say, you know, an advertisement you 364 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:27.880 put on on facebook. Yeah, I agree. Been I think what you 365 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:32.119 guys are doing is pretty, you know, as phenomenal and one I think 366 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.279 the way your practice is ran, which we you know, this isn't like 367 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.039 a health show or anything, so I won't really get into it. But 368 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.640 you guys are out of the box, even with stuff you put, you 369 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.720 know, post online. You know the belief systems, the way you're doing 370 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.000 things like it's not. And when people say, like a doctor's office, 371 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.400 I don't need to think like you know been and his family just like these, 372 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.359 you know, stuffy people, you know like I think a doctor's office, 373 00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:56.720 I want to vomit. I think if your guys place and I'm like, 374 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.359 okay, these guys are for running in the medical industry. They're not 375 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.480 just taking it for what it is. They're like the really in it for 376 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.119 the right reasons, and I see that come through in your content as well. 377 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.319 And once again, I think that's a testimony of people saying hey, 378 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.559 when I come in, I'm talking to if I'm talking to your dad, 379 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.240 cool, I watch him every Tuesday night or you know whatever. I know 380 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.079 him, I'll like him, I trust him, and it really gives you 381 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.319 a different thing. You can't trust the billboard, you can't trust the newspaper 382 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:30.160 Ad, you definitely can't trust too linked in post or a facebook and add 383 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.599 or a you know any of that. You can't trust any of those things, 384 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.920 but you can definitely trust someone who shows up every single week to help 385 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:41.119 me, to give me this really great content, that's really great information for 386 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.599 free. So it part. And I'll say one more thing because I it's 387 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:52.240 important to say all of those things work. You know, billboards work, 388 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.640 you know, facebook advertising works. You know, I think just in terms 389 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:06.160 of like longevity and the way the audience consumes it is different when it comes 390 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:12.680 in a episodic show format. So you know, I think with content, 391 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:18.160 if you focus on bringing value to the person who's consuming it, they're more 392 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.680 likely to to come back than if the piece of contents all about you. 393 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:29.680 So so that's been like the the greatest thing that's happened is it's changed the 394 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:34.440 way people consumed us, you know. So I'm still running facebook adds. 395 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:40.039 Yeah, I still you know, we're on all the different channels, but 396 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:44.839 the you'll notice a difference in the content that we put out versus say, 397 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:49.000 another medical practice. You know, their content is basically saying come see us, 398 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.920 come see us, where our content is more about, you know, 399 00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:02.759 just informative like love them, education and and and really trying to help people 400 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.400 become better patients, whether they come see us or not. Okay, if 401 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.480 I have one take away from this whole episode so far, been this is 402 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.160 what it is. This is if your local business and you're trying to stand 403 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:19.559 out from the crowd, stand up from the competition, start creating content for 404 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.480 your customers, orry. And I love that you said that, because you're 405 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.519 right. Like, you know, ads and all this stuff is all about 406 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:27.640 me, me, me, me, me, US, and we were 407 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.920 great, we're awesome, but when you start making it about you, that's 408 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:34.359 when you start getting the most, you know, attraction. So, man, 409 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.200 I love that you shared that. I think you guys do stand up 410 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.000 job with that. And so sid is in the comments as well. I 411 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:47.000 said, what advice or encouragement would you give to other business owners and leaders 412 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:52.720 that may not value, may not see the value and content creation in terms 413 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:57.720 of like how would how would I talk to them in order to persuade them 414 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.359 that it's a good idea? I guess I don't know. You know, 415 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:10.799 if what I would do is I would, I would do it anyway. 416 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:15.079 So I think my piece of advice. You know, the beautiful thing is 417 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:19.599 youtube is free, facebook is free. They're all free. So what I 418 00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:23.200 would do, and this is what I did at the beginning, was I 419 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.400 just did it and and I was going to take ownership. If it didn't 420 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.480 work, I'd say, you know, my bad, but you know, 421 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.240 I really don't see a downside and just trying and and just going out there 422 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:44.079 and doing it again. I think it's becoming more and more clear that everyone 423 00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.799 is their own media company and I would I think, I just don't think 424 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.519 you can go wrong as a small business to look at yourself as a media 425 00:31:53.599 --> 00:32:00.559 company. And if I worked for a small business, I would tell my 426 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.759 my boss is the same thing I would tell the small business owner. You 427 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:08.559 know, the most important thing is brand over over the long term, and 428 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:15.880 the way you build brand is through content in seven, seven to fifteen different 429 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:22.279 mediums, and they're all on your on your iphone, so it's true. 430 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:28.359 So I think my answer to that would be just to start doing to start 431 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:36.079 putting out content and try to build an audience. And and and here's another 432 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.480 thing that that I think is so important, and you know this as well 433 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:44.880 as anybody, billy. So many people again have it in their head that 434 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:46.680 they need to be if they're going to do it. They need to be 435 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:52.240 Tim Ferris or they need to be, you know, a Gary Veiner Chuck. 436 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.799 But the truth is, you know, especially for local business and and 437 00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:00.519 even if you have a direct a consumer brand, there is huge value and 438 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.839 small, niche audiences, and so I would not be discouraged at all. 439 00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:13.720 If you look at your you know amount of views and they're small. The 440 00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.000 whole purpose is to get in the habit of putting out content and you got 441 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:22.279 a bet on the in the long term, you know that audience is going 442 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.039 to going to build up, especially if you're coming at it with the mindset 443 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.079 of trying to provide them value. Yeah, man, I a hundred percent 444 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:35.720 agree and I think it's one of those things too, where sometimes there's business 445 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:37.839 people we can get stuck on that rol. I question like well, if 446 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.599 I do this, I need that, and it's just in like you said, 447 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.920 it's kind of a really great area. But you're going to build brand, 448 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.440 you're going to build brand recognition, you're going to build relationships. Like 449 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.079 I know I've been doing a fishing show for over a hundred and something episodes 450 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.000 and when I walk into a tackle store in North Carolina, on the coast 451 00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.519 North Carolina, people are like, Oh hey, dude, I really appreciate 452 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:04.480 your your podcast or whatever, and they will know me from Adam. And 453 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.480 then a year later, now we've launched a membership, we've had a hundred 454 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.159 people sign up for that membership that we've never I mean, maybe we've met 455 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.079 some of them, maybe we haven't, but it's that relationship that we've built 456 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:21.400 over last hundred episodes before we've offered this membership program that allowed them to say, 457 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:22.239 yeah, we trust to you like you know you, we're going to 458 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.800 do business with you now. And so I think that is the it is 459 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.360 the long play, and so it is start now rather than the later, 460 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:31.519 because if I could go back and do one thing, I would have started 461 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.719 when I was twenty five, twenty and twenty five, not really when I 462 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.199 was in my s, you know, but I still I'm still having fun. 463 00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.000 I'm no gay Vander Chuck, but I'm still having fun, yes, 464 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.320 you know, and it's just such an important message. And the other thing 465 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:51.679 I would say is, you know, if you can, if you're a 466 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:55.519 local business owner or you work at a local business, you already have customers, 467 00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.840 I would make content for them. Yeah, and you know, I 468 00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:04.480 would get feedback from them. I would ask them what they would like to 469 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.480 know more about. And and this is another, you know, kind of 470 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:15.960 a mentality that that Gary Vander Chuck Taught Me was was give them all the 471 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.920 secrets, you know, whatever your secrets are. You know, teach them 472 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:24.880 how to not become a customer of yours. And it's it's kind of interesting 473 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:30.119 how you get more customers from it. Yeah, right, well, and 474 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.880 I think too. And it's all about in the most powerful marketing is word 475 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:38.519 of mouth marketing. So it's like if I can get ten, five hundred 476 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:43.639 and ten people engage in my content and then they know, they probably know 477 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.280 three to ten people who like what they like. It's in that same niche, 478 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.760 and then they tell those and then it just is like this. But 479 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.400 it is that. It is that game of like Hey, let's show up. 480 00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:57.199 was keep being consistent, you know. And people are like, dude, 481 00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.000 what's your long play with a daily show? I'm like, I don't 482 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.559 really know. I'm alerting. I've met some cool people already through doing a 483 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.519 daily show. I've had opportunities already. Get a call later this week with 484 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.159 the with the company that's like Ky we saw your daily show, we want 485 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.599 to talk about something like cool. I'm in like you know. So it's 486 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.880 like, just because I'm not getting transactions from the three or four people it's 487 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.079 watching me every day at this moment doesn't mean that this thing isn't going to 488 00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:29.599 turn into a revenue generating machine, which is totally the game plan, but 489 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.320 it's not really the why. The why is to build an amazing community of 490 00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:37.639 creators and encourage and inspire each other, and so I love that you share 491 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.000 that same thing of like, we really want to help our people and then 492 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.199 in return it's going to help us, like this is how it works, 493 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.320 like yeah, but it is. Yeah, it's just such a it's an 494 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:52.079 important thing to note, and I hope you know the people watching in on 495 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.039 this like that's one of their main takeaways is, you know, again, 496 00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.480 if you can, if you can get in the habit of putting out consistent 497 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:05.960 content providing value so that you know, you can build an audience, you 498 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.039 know monetizing that audience, you can get creative with and you can do lots 499 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:15.079 of different things, but I would not focus on it. I would focus 500 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:21.320 mainly on, you know, how am I going to create content consistently if 501 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.159 I'm doing creating daily. You know, how am I going to do it? 502 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.639 What's my process for it? And you know, one other, you 503 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:36.599 know tip that really change my mentality was when we hired providers and, you 504 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.400 know, people who see patients. I started to see them as more than 505 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:46.519 providers. I started to see them as content creators first, because that scales 506 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:52.679 beyond them, you know, in a one on one interaction with patients. 507 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.880 And this is what I told my dad from the beginning. You know, 508 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:59.480 when you know he does it, he's as he does the Qa show with 509 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.760 me every single Tuesday. It's it's long. We go for an hour and 510 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.800 I could and sometimes just it's taxing on him because he's been with patients all 511 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:12.760 day long. But the thing is is that content, you know, is 512 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:20.239 there forever. And that question he answered on you know, testosterone isn't going 513 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.480 to only help the person who asked it that night. It's going to help 514 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.679 hundreds of other people who are going to see it, you know, six 515 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.719 months from now. And so that's when you really start to get into some 516 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.239 cool stuff. You know, when you have that process of creating consistently, 517 00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.400 then you can get into the repurposing game and you go back in and you 518 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:44.599 figure out, okay, what can I make from the things that I've already 519 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:50.559 made, and it's it and then it becomes super, super cool. And 520 00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:55.800 that's how I see our youtube channel now. Is really just a canvas for 521 00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.599 other pieces of content that that we can make, that it can explain something 522 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:07.880 in a different way that might not have connected with a person five months ago 523 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:12.639 but might connect with them now based on what they've learned in the interim, 524 00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.880 you know. So so that's really how I look at I look at every 525 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:23.840 piece of content as really like an opportunity, like what else could I do 526 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:28.119 with it? You know, it's really it's like an asset. Yeah, 527 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.119 yeah, man, I love it. Yeah, it's like, if you 528 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:31.320 just think, and that's one of the problem, I'm not gonna see a 529 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.960 problem. That's one of the things I'm trying to, you know, really 530 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.880 figure out with this show. I'm like, Dud, I'm want every day 531 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.039 for an a, you know, forty five minucerent hour with a guest, 532 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:45.599 some really great information, and I realize my band with is very limited. 533 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:49.800 So I'm not really focus on repurposing at this moment. So how important was 534 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.519 that for you guys to quickly like did was a quick to go hire an 535 00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.760 editor, would you? Would you say hey, if you really want to 536 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.079 do this and do the right way, to go find somebody to help you, 537 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.840 or or were you guys handling most of it up front? Um, 538 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:10.760 you know, we only hired an editor in January of this year. So 539 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:19.519 it's really a new thing for us and honestly, it's really more difficult to 540 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.960 to work with a team. That's something that that I'm going through right now 541 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.360 is like, you know, how do you how do you use other people? 542 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:34.199 How do you manage a in an editorial staff? Because we're, you 543 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.559 know, like I said, what we're medical practice. You know, I 544 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:44.360 understand how to manage medical assistance and nurse practitioners and office managers, but how 545 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:49.840 do you manage a graphic designer and a, you know, video editor and 546 00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.960 a videographer? You know, it's a totally different ball game. So, 547 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.559 you know, I'm starting to look at myself as an editor in chief more 548 00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:05.199 than like a business manager in a way. So so the answer to that 549 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:12.719 is I when you when you really understand your process super well and you get 550 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:19.360 used to you're getting very comfortable with clipping, clipping your show yourself and, 551 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:24.159 you know, making, you know, three to five minute segments for different 552 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:30.599 platforms, and when you're really comfortable with that yourself and understand what you're wanting 553 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:37.079 and what your audience is responding to, that's when I would look at hiring 554 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:43.880 someone else to do it and to scale yourself a little bit. But I 555 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:47.719 would, I would first have a really good idea of of the audience on 556 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:54.239 the platform that you're trying to repurpose content for, because I've done it myself, 557 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.719 and then higher out and because you're going to be better able to U 558 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:05.119 to buys them, because what you don't want to do is is not understand 559 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.760 yourself who's good and who's not. So that that's really the that's the big 560 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.400 thing. But no, it's just been me and my mom for for most 561 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.159 of the time. Okay, gods again, because I know a lot of 562 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.239 people. You know, they'll get into that world. are going to go 563 00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.000 funn team. I'm going to get a team. I canna get team. 564 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:23.880 I'm like, I'm like, dude, I'm running. I'm run daily show, 565 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:29.320 I'm running another show in both of those things are full steam and it's 566 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:34.440 really me producing all of them. I've just found my system of streamline it. 567 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:38.079 Now we are going to probably outsource some things eventually, but it's not 568 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:44.519 without these things really making some money first. And so yeah, the big 569 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:50.679 thing, billy, is it needs to be your priority and and I think, 570 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:55.119 and I think that's been the thing that has really changed our business the 571 00:42:55.199 --> 00:43:04.360 most has been the moment that content became a priority. And I think you 572 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.880 can only you can only do that when you're when you're really getting into it 573 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.679 yourself and you're pushing the buttons with your own thumbs. Love that. I 574 00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:16.199 love it, man. So your content has to be the priority, especially 575 00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.840 for full time content creators, people who want to do this, people you 576 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.199 know, and there's some people might want to be in your position and say, 577 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.159 Hey, I want to I want to go work with local companies and 578 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.719 help produce these things. But how do I do it? And I love 579 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.360 it. It's like, roll your sleeves up, there's probably no easy button 580 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.920 here, and do the work, push the buttons, figure out you know 581 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.360 what kind of content it is that you're good at making or want to make 582 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:43.039 or whatever, and keep moving the needle just a little bit. So I 583 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.199 love it to hear that from your guy's perspective, because we're talking to somebody 584 00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.760 who you do this for a doctor's office, like you know. It's not 585 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.599 like you guys are just going, Oh, yeah, let's just been where's 586 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:54.639 the check book? Just write a check and get somebody to do it, 587 00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.280 like you guys are doing the thing, man, and I love that. 588 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.719 I think that is amazing. Yeah, and I think you know, especially 589 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:06.840 nowadays, and the people watching know this is as well as anyone. So 590 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.440 so do so, do you, billy, is you know, none of 591 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.599 it works if you don't have a good product or a good service. So 592 00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:19.360 it always you know, that's like a that's like a baseline, like you 593 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.079 got to offer a good service inside of your office or inside of your store 594 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:28.320 or you know, if you're a content creator, you gotta you got to 595 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.199 put out good content, you got to represent good products if that's how you're 596 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:36.039 going to monetize. But I think you know, the way to separate yourself 597 00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.519 in the Internet age is really and really it's been, you know, throughout 598 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:45.719 time, it's always been about communication and and I think you know that parts 599 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.920 the most interesting is like who's going to communicate this the best? And in 600 00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:58.599 our world at performance medicine were. You know, in this integrative medicine world, 601 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:02.360 our goal is to be the best that communicating around it. And and 602 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:07.599 I think if you're in the fishing industry or shoot in any industry, it's 603 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.920 like what your what's your communication style going to because that's what's going to separate 604 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.559 you, I think, the most. Yeah, that's what the opportunity is. 605 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.519 Yeah, I think you're a hundred percent right. I love it. 606 00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:21.679 I think that is the you know, I always tell people this, like 607 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.760 and I before I was doing my own thing. I managed stores and all 608 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.000 this stuff, and people are like man, I can't, I can't believe 609 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.760 my I can't my team to do stuff. I'm like look, man, 610 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.679 it's not about getting them to do it's not. It's not what you say, 611 00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.800 it's how you say it. It's always that delivery. So you can 612 00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.639 have some really great content and deliver it like a dud and no one gets 613 00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:44.280 it. But you know, I think you guys do a really great job 614 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.800 at getting the good gold and content, packaging up nice, putting it out 615 00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.920 there to the world. Ben I really appreciate you jumping on with me. 616 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.440 Man, is there anything that and I know we could talk all day about 617 00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:00.320 live streaming content creation and tips and tricks and tools and all that kind of 618 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.000 fun stuff which, honestly, I thought we were going to get into it. 619 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.360 But I've enjoyed this conversation way more than just talking about nerdy you know, 620 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.599 like what live stream software do we use? But is there anything that 621 00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:15.800 I didn't like set you up to that you wanted to share? You know, 622 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:22.280 I think that a few things that I hope people take away is, 623 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.320 if you're in a brick if you're working at a brick and mortar store or 624 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.119 if you have a brick and mortar business, this, I think, building 625 00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:39.119 an online presence on top of it is a huge opportunity. And I'm bullish 626 00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:44.639 on Youtube. I think Youtube is going to be around for a very long 627 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.760 time. I love, you know, Short form content and I love I 628 00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:51.800 think tick tock is a, you know, a huge opportunity as well. 629 00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:55.079 And and and, of course, you know, instagrams a monster and facebook 630 00:46:55.079 --> 00:47:00.039 and in all the others. But I would I would just really encourage people 631 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:07.199 to start looking at where they work or the business that they own as as 632 00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:14.159 a media company and how can you create content around it in order to be 633 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:21.119 top of the funnel awareness towards what it is that you actually do and I 634 00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:24.199 think, I think content online is the best way to do it and I 635 00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:30.519 really hope, you know, somebody comes away from this conversation and and you 636 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.559 know, puts out a video, puts out a blog post or an email 637 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:39.679 and starts to put that into practice, because it really does work. It 638 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:45.840 takes a very long time. If I were to know what I know now, 639 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.039 five years ago, eight years ago, when I started, it's extremely 640 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:54.480 it's way more difficult than I than I thought, but I'm telling you, 641 00:47:54.559 --> 00:48:00.639 it's it's it really works and it's worth every single minute you put toward it. 642 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.679 Yeah, man, love that, Ben and it is. It is 643 00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:07.440 difficult, but it is way easier than it was ten years ago, that's 644 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.320 for sure. So to go to go live, when this thing right here 645 00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:15.199 at will, it's just blows my mind. Every time that I do it, 646 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.920 I'm like, I cannot believe it's that's not the like the hard parts, 647 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:23.320 not like the tech is is amazing, like it is so easy to 648 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:28.199 put out a podcast, to put out a video. The hard part is 649 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.559 showing up and and I can't emphasize that enough, and I'm I'm just so 650 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:37.320 proud of what you're doing, billy, with this show. Creating daily is 651 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.280 super, super hard, but this show is going to is going to work, 652 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:44.320 man, and I you're putting out so much valuable content that it's going 653 00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.639 to help a ton of people. So I really appreciate what you're doing, 654 00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:51.000 because this is the hard part. Yeah, man, Hey, I appreciate 655 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.159 the encourage me do. That's awesome in your ride. It is tough and 656 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:58.480 it's tough to get started there at the beginning because well, in my in 657 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.239 my you know, my little situation when I was like man, I do 658 00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.760 I want to do a show, Don want to create content at all. 659 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.719 was always where other people going to think? And really I learned. One 660 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.559 thing I've learned been is like nobody thinks about me as much as I think 661 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.639 they do. So I just sit recording, go it recalls out, comes, 662 00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:22.280 out, you know, yeah, it's it's not. You're doing your 663 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:27.159 best. I'm doing my best. You know, we have good intentions. 664 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.239 You know, you can't go wrong with that, man, and yeah, 665 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.320 I'm just I'm proud of people like yourself that are that are showing up and 666 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.559 doing the work, and that's what we're aiming to do. A performance medicine 667 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:44.760 as well, and I'm just excited for where you're going and I'm just super 668 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.760 thankful and grateful that you had me on today. Yeah, man, absolutely, 669 00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:52.400 anytime, Ben I'm sure we'll have you on again to get some updates 670 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.119 and and maybe will near it out on like software and all that kind of 671 00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.079 stuff later, because we were before the call. We were like getting into 672 00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.320 it. So, man, I really appreciate you. You know I'm a 673 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:05.239 big Fan of yours, your family, you guys have always been close to 674 00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.400 you know, close to my heart no matter what. And I'm going to 675 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:09.360 have I'm have your mom on just talking about her new book and kind of 676 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:14.360 I mean she's like a super creator, so she's and talk about nerding, 677 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.760 nerding out like my mom. What's been the most shocking thing about all this 678 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:24.480 is her thumbnails on Youtube are insane, like they are so good. I 679 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:30.360 have, I've shown them to like actual people who their job is to create 680 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:35.920 thumbnails for Youtube and they're like your mom's. thumbnails are like professional, and 681 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.519 I'm just I'm so proud of her for doing what she's doing and I can't 682 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.280 wait for her to be on the show next week. But you have to 683 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.360 mention to her that you're proud of her for a thumbnails because she puts in 684 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:50.920 the time on them and they are their phenomenal. All right, I'll definitely 685 00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:52.920 mention it, because I didn't notice those. I think I actually pulled your 686 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:57.880 picture from a thumbnail or something. Yeah, yeah, I think I did 687 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.760 so well then, I appreciate you so much, man, it's been awesome. 688 00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.840 In real quick how do we find performance medicine? Like, where can 689 00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.519 people find your youtube channel and all that kind of stuff? Just if you 690 00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:13.639 if you go into Youtube and search performance medicine, our channel will show up 691 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:20.599 and I think on Instagram we're at performance medicine tea in for Tennessee and our 692 00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:27.440 website is performance medicine dotnet and that has links to everything and our Podcast, 693 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.800 the Commons in Sind and outside the box, or both, on all the 694 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:37.440 different podcasting platforms. But the youtube is the kind of host everything. That's 695 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:42.280 kind of the the channel that we put all the different shows on. So 696 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.880 that's probably the best place to go would be youtube searching for performance medicine. 697 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.639 Okay, awesome, and you guys have a live show tonight. So if 698 00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.519 anybody wants to get a glimpse of what been and his team do over there. 699 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:57.320 Him To dad and go check them out and it's as seven PM eastern 700 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.920 time. Is that right? That's right. That's why size seven PM, 701 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:06.039 where Youtube and facebook and all the different places you can go live all the 702 00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.079 fun stuff. Man, will Ben. I really appreciate you coming on. 703 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.840 Man. It's been a tree and I'll chat with you later. Man. 704 00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.559 Thank you so much, relly. Thanks so much, man, love your 705 00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:15.519 brother. I'll see you soon. All right, man, need to see 706 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.079 you. All right. There you go, guys. That is my friend, 707 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.920 been rodgers from performance medicine. What what a good dude. Just been 708 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:27.960 at it, being grinding. Love the story behind it. So go check 709 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.400 them out. Performance Medicine. There can be live tonight. I learned a 710 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.440 lot of medical stuff, maybe stuff I need to know, maybe stuff I 711 00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:36.719 don't need to know, from watching their live streams and watching their show. 712 00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:39.280 So they're they're out here, they're doing it. It's awesome. Really appreciate 713 00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:44.079 you joining me. 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