May 10, 2022

Evolution of Social Media Into Web3

Evolution of Social Media Into Web3

Katie Brinkley is back and ready to share about the evolution of social media into Web 3. 

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WEBVTT 1 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:14.599 Now here's something we hope can really like. You're listening to creating daily, 2 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.159 there's something wrong with you. You know that because you and I are like 3 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.879 a mullets. It is the is the business. So he's the front part 4 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.879 of the haircut and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're 5 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:29.080 hilarious. Speaks to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. What 6 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:34.240 is going on everyone? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. I'm your 7 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:36.520 host, Billy Thorpe. In today's can be a great show man. I 8 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:39.599 see a lot of people already jumping in checking out the show, so really 9 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:43.319 appreciate you. where, of you're watching that? Either Youtube, bullhorn, 10 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.520 facebook leaked in where? I don't know. I don't know wherever. Let 11 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:49.439 us do the chat where you're watching from so we have a better idea. 12 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.919 But he got a great show line up for you today. I'm joined here 13 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:57.039 in a moment by my friend Katie Brinkley, WHO's my Tuesday co host when 14 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:02.080 she's available, and she has been wildly busy in web three world, traveling 15 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.800 all of the country learn about stuff. So I'm excited to catch up with 16 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.479 her and just a second. But when to welcome you to the show. 17 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.000 If you have any questions, as we're going to be talking about the evolution 18 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.039 of social media in Web three and what that looks like to the best of 19 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:20.319 our knowledge, or really to the best of Katie's knowledge. I'm studying it, 20 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.919 but not a studied as her, so I'm excited to pick her brain 21 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:27.520 about that. So if you have any questions as we go through the show 22 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.800 we are set up to take questions from bullhorn, from guild or rich emotion, 23 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.800 from Youtube and facebook and all the places. So just leave them in 24 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:43.319 the chat, but put q colon question mark and then and let us know 25 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.840 where you're watching from or or what your question is. Rather, don't order. 26 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:47.919 Let us know where you're watching from in your question. Whatever feeling. 27 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:52.719 Put it together. We could figure it out. So also, while we're 28 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.240 doing all this nice front and stuff of the show, be sure to like, 29 00:03:55.360 --> 00:04:00.759 share, subscribe, follow, whatever it is and whatever platform you listening 30 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.960 to. Really appreciate all of you, guys and Gals, for checking out 31 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:09.599 the show. And now I think Katie jumped in. She has some time 32 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:13.560 to take a breath after she's jumped off a call right now to get on 33 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:15.560 the show. So, Katie, how's it going? How are you? 34 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.079 I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. 35 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:24.360 Thank you so much for jumping in. I know you've been crazy busy. 36 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:28.480 I've seen you on instagram. You're like in a plane, in a 37 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:33.040 car, on a train, you're all over the place. So you do 38 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:38.439 good. I might like. You looks a blurry compared to yours. I 39 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.879 have an HD camera. That's not that's not your fault, that's e Cam's 40 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.120 fault. If anybody out there in KM world, I hope they're looking. 41 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.480 I'll send it to him afterward. Maybe they can fix it. We'll see 42 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:53.639 what happens. I know right, my meat, I'll pixulated here. Don't 43 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:57.040 mind me. I just look like at unborn fetus on an ultrasound. It's 44 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:00.439 cool. That's what my cohost looks like all the time on my fishing show. 45 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:05.439 Welcome to the Party of VKM. But yeah, I've been on planes, 46 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:10.720 trains and automobiles this past week and next week I'm going to add boats 47 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.439 to that mix because we're going on a on a vacation next week too with 48 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.240 the family, and then I get on another plane and head to pod fast 49 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.480 to do some speaking. So yeah, it's been a super busy May. 50 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:25.920 I know, I'm excited for you. I'm a little jealous about the podfast 51 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:28.839 thing, which we get a we get a little discount. Co coming up 52 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.480 here in a few minutes that we can talk about. But I will be 53 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:34.680 on a plane in two weeks as well. Actually, I will be. 54 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:40.160 I will be on a plane right now, two weeks from now heading back 55 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:45.399 to North Carolina. So moving back there. Pretty excited about it. So 56 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.040 yeah, next time you next time that. I don't know if we're I 57 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:49.920 got to talk to you afterwards. I don't know if we're doing a show 58 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:54.120 next week or not, because I forgot. I underestimate all the crap it 59 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:58.040 takes to move to a different country, essentially, and I forgot from ten 60 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.279 months ago, and so now I'm like, oh my gosh, I forget 61 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.959 about this, this and that. So anyway, but anyway, it'll be 62 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:09.000 fun. It'll be good time. So yeah, you know, it's it's 63 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:14.040 awesome that you're able to work from anywhere because you know, right now you're 64 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.120 living the living the life and Puerto Rico and can be heading back to North 65 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.000 Carolina on and you know, like you said, you have to maybe take 66 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:24.040 a pause for a day, but you're going to be able to still pick 67 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:28.360 right back up and just be in a different place and keep on showing up 68 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.800 live. Yeah, it's can be good. I think we're going to take 69 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:32.839 I think it will take a week off. I think I'm going to take 70 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.959 a whole week just to get back and get settled and, you know, 71 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.199 because people are like, oh, just in front of your computer, in 72 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.759 front of your Webcam, like that's just not how I roll. I I 73 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.399 just not going to do that. So I'd rather show up and have everything 74 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:47.920 working. But Anyway, that'll be fun. That'll be a good time. 75 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.600 That'll be good time. So well, Katie, I get a I got 76 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:55.720 a new little segment that I want to do. Actually, we got several 77 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.600 segments lined up, but this first one is a little thing to get to 78 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:00.560 know us a little bit. I really get to know you a little bit. 79 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.360 Yeah, let me ask you one thing. So I'm going to ask 80 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:08.680 you three random questions that I've randomly selected to get to know Katie a little 81 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.720 bit. Maybe I'll answer them to if people want to know. But the 82 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:15.720 first question of is, what is the oddest job that you've ever taken to 83 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:24.399 earn a dollar. I'm so my very first experience in entrepreneurship as I started 84 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:30.720 my own rescreening business. So like the screens on your house, like for 85 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:36.639 your windows. I started my own business where I would rescreen screens because here 86 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:41.120 in Colorado we have a lot of hail storms. The screens take a beating 87 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.720 with that hot sun. So I was like I could just ree screening screens 88 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:48.199 and make the money and I was charging, you know, if I was 89 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:53.839 charging ten bucks a screen and window companies were charged in thirty bucks a screen. 90 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:56.600 But yeah, it was ten bucks a screen. It was my very 91 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:00.160 first experience in entrepreneurship. I did it when I was in high school and 92 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:05.560 in college just, you know, advertised in the neighborhood paper and it was 93 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:09.480 it was a fun little endeavor. If you rescreening business, he's screening. 94 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.240 Okay. I come from the screen printing world, so I was like, 95 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:16.759 Oh, you re screen screen for screen printing, but I guess nowhere near 96 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.839 the same. That's like super hard to do. Okay, yeah, I'll 97 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.279 try to think of my oddest job of ever taking. One time in college 98 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.959 I took a took a job selling meat out of a meat truck, like 99 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.240 you just drive around and cold knock on people's stores and see if they want 100 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:37.720 to buy a steak or whatever. That's anyway. People asking me like why, 101 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:39.519 why do you like sales? I like, I don't know, it's 102 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.480 weird. I can just knock on your door and Begat. You want a 103 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.399 piece of meat, you want some steak? What do you eating for dinner? 104 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.679 I got a steak out here. All right. So what is the 105 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:54.159 most annoying bill that you have to pay? What's the most annoying bill that 106 00:08:54.200 --> 00:09:03.279 I have to pay, like for a household or for like business, just 107 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.559 whatever's annoying, whatever you like. Wow, why do I gotta pay this? 108 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:16.360 Um? Well, I sure don't like paying my my bill for my 109 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.960 scheduler, because I need to have it. But I mean it's giant normousts 110 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.039 because I do it for all my clients. So it's like forty five hundred 111 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:31.039 dollars a year, but I know I need to have it and that just 112 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.000 it's the most affordable option that I've found that does all the things that I 113 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.840 needed to do. Now, granted, I talk about schedulers a lot. 114 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:43.159 In the one that I use, I also recommend but for the average user 115 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:48.080 who's just getting started in scheduling, I think it comes out to like twenty 116 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.879 dollars a month, so substantially less. But again, since I do it 117 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:56.120 for so many people, it takes a big chunk out of my pocketbook. 118 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.720 Oh, yeah, that sounds yeah, I don't know about yeah, I 119 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.080 think the most annoying fee that I will I'll say fee, I want even 120 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.559 say bill, is like I hate transaction fees. I mean, I know 121 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.000 they don't think that cost is my I'm like, there's no way. It 122 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.720 costs them much like a transaction fees like really just gets me sideways every time. 123 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.159 I can say one. A fee that I don't like is doors with 124 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.000 their delivery fees, you know, and so I signed up for the door 125 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.600 membership, but it's still like, you know, I'm a like yeah, 126 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.480 they're good, they're making a fortune out of this, charging like three hundred 127 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.000 and sixty eight per delivery. I was going to add on a coffee from 128 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.559 somewhere else. was like do you want to add a coffee? Five seventy 129 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.320 more, and I was like sure, go ahead and ad on a coffee, 130 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.320 but then I was going to have to the driver for an additional stop 131 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.200 and add a delivery fe on, whereas before I didn't have to have a 132 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:50.720 delivery fee. So, anyways, that I was really annoyed about. So 133 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.320 that's that's transaction fee that I'm not a fan of. Yeah, Save John 134 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:56.559 John, and the chat said, I don't know what it's going to pop 135 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.960 up. Says the monthly bank feed, the maintain your account. Like yeah, 136 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.799 I'm gonna pay you to hold my money, like thanks a lot. 137 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.200 Like that, you use and make money off of like all right, cool, 138 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.000 yeah, right. So kind of annoying, kind of frustrating, but 139 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.919 is what it is. All Right, Kitty, I'll stop asking you questions. 140 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.159 We will get to our creator highlight real quick because I want to get 141 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.759 into this conversation and then and we'll talk about podfest and then we'll jump right 142 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:28.399 in. So they're highlights, no cooking necessary and no assembly required. He's 143 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.440 got to be fun, all right. So today we are highlighting diamond mind 144 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:39.759 results, as my friends Sam has an awesome podcast, awesome YouTube channel, 145 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.759 and diamond mind result is is really like personal and Professional Development Organization dedicated to 146 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:52.200 creating inspiring content for aspiring entrepreneurs and dream seekers their passions to build a community 147 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.240 of shift thinkers, which I love that. I love that shift thinkers and 148 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:01.799 diamond miners dedicated to digging into their goals despite bys life obstacles. Of Hand. 149 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.519 Opportunity to work with Sam in the past for some projects that he was 150 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.919 hiring me to consult on and it was a lot of fun. It's super 151 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.639 great guy, super great podcast. So if you haven't checked it out, 152 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:18.200 go check him out and also go check out out the out APP. I've 153 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.320 promoted this a lot, so use the codebt six, one hundred four, 154 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.679 five hundred and three four early access and a tender sign up bonus and get 155 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.600 paid for that advice. For All those people who go, I just want 156 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:28.759 to pick your brain. Katie. Are you over there yet? I can 157 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:35.919 see you like tearing up on owl. I'm not on OWL, man. 158 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.240 I'm on so many social audio platforms. There's only so many hours in the 159 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:46.159 day and I was really active on wisdom. Oh yeah, and I liked 160 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.679 I liked wisdom a lot and it just I'm not over on owl yet. 161 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.639 I've heard a lot of creators really like the platform, though. Yeah, 162 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.360 I think they like it because they can like say, Oh, I want 163 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.080 a dollar a minute or whatever, and they can set their own time and 164 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.039 show up when they want, all that kind of fun stuff. So all 165 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.159 right, one more thing. Is News to me, and where they put 166 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.639 it here I always lose any reason. That's news to me. Creating daily 167 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.279 all right, this isn't really like news, News, but podcast is coming 168 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.120 up, so we wanted to promote this event. Katie, you're going and 169 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:24.840 speaking at it. Yeah, I'm going to be hosting two panel sessions and 170 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.720 I'm going to also be teaching a track on how to use a social media 171 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:33.159 SC Eduler to make sure that you stay consistent with your podcast promotion. Man, 172 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.279 I just feel like we're talking all about schedulers so far for today's episode. 173 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.240 I know, like maybe this should be maybe we should reschedule this to 174 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.799 this topic for something else and talk about schedulers. So, Katie was generous 175 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:46.279 enough to give us a discount. Is that your Discount Code? I guess, 176 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:50.360 twenty percent off to sea. Yeah, so anyone wants to go to 177 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.519 podfast save twenty percent off of your ticket by entering in the discount code or 178 00:13:54.559 --> 00:14:00.080 Promo code code of our MM and yeah, you can save some money on 179 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.519 it. But this is billy I just wish you were not moving, because 180 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.919 you need to be at this event. Man. Well, one because I'd 181 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.159 like to see you irl, but I feel like you could be like teaching 182 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:16.720 some master classes at it. So next year, man, don't move during 183 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.159 podcast. I was just about to ask a really old man question, like 184 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.759 what the Heck Does Irl me? But then I figured it out, like 185 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.000 in real life. Okay, so like, wait a minute, what are 186 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.679 you saying to me? That's too funny. So, yeah, the kids 187 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:37.799 are using these slang terms now. Irl means in real life. I'll showe 188 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.480 known brb. Be Right back. You can keep on going. Yeah, 189 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:45.960 right, that's what I was in the home account. My Gosh, I'm 190 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.600 getting old. What am I doing? I'm hoping to stay into this new 191 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:54.600 Internet world phase, you know, in a part of this, Katie, 192 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.720 for you know, for this conversation, for me today, is to learn 193 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.759 one, because there's so many people doing nfts and cryptocurrency and web three and 194 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.759 web this and we blah, blah, Blah Blah, and I'm like what 195 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.759 is all this stuff in? So maybe today we can figure it out and 196 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:13.000 we're going to kind of carve it into like the social media aspect I'm sure 197 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.720 it'll go a few different ways, but to kick off our conversation about this, 198 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.240 what exactly is web three, or what is web three as we know 199 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.639 it today? I should say, well, so this is the thing, 200 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:31.080 billy. I think that I was kind of along the line. So you 201 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.000 and I met on clubhouse and over about a year ago there started being a 202 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:41.240 whole lot more crypto rooms and nft rooms. I remember back in January, 203 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.279 when I joined the APP of January, two thousand and twenty one, it 204 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:48.279 wasn't hardly any, and then around this time they started to be more and 205 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.720 then by the fall I felt like every other room was a crypto room and 206 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.279 I was like, Oh my God, what's happening? Why is every this 207 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.200 being taken over by Crypto? This is so annoying. I don't care about 208 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:08.200 your monopoly money. But then good old Mark Zuckerberg had to go and change 209 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:14.440 the name of facebook to Meta, and when he did that I was like, 210 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:22.080 I'm have to learn about web three, because if one of the richest 211 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.080 men in the world that controls so much of how we interact with one another 212 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:30.519 on a daily basis is saying I'm changing the name, not only do I 213 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.799 believe in web three so much I'm going to go ahead and change the entire 214 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.960 company name, because that's how much I believe in it. It wasn't because 215 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.679 they're just getting a bad rap for crap they were doing. You don't think 216 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.879 that was it? I thought that's the reason why they change it because they're 217 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.679 like getting some heat for being whatever they're doing. I won't get into it, 218 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.480 but I thought it's a political move, not a not a I believe 219 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:55.759 in web three move. No, I mean I can think about it, 220 00:16:55.840 --> 00:17:03.200 because there they have the Oculis Vr, you know, little d things head 221 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:07.319 where that you can wear. They have the facebook watch, which you know, 222 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:10.599 is kind of like an Alexa that you can watch and have talk to 223 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:15.680 people with and think about facebook groups. That's what they've really been putting a 224 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.880 lot of their energy and efforts behind, and really it was preparing all of 225 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:25.720 us for this new web three space. It was preparing us for this new 226 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:30.559 web three world, and that's that's what web three and NFT's are. I 227 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:36.960 mean, I was talking to with one of my girlfriends that saying like Gosh, 228 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.440 after good old Zoch made the name change, is like I had do 229 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:45.519 not want to learn about bitcoin and cryptocurrency and NFTS. I don't want to 230 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.240 learn about it at and I feel like it's a foreign language. You know 231 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:52.440 it. There's you know, like paying gas fees and you know, by 232 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.960 the dip, and I'm like, what is all this? You know, 233 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.480 it's it's all these different slangs. You know, Barb seems super were easy 234 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:06.039 and IRLS like super easy slang terms compared to what's being talked about with web 235 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.039 three. And I said to her, I was like, man, you 236 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.720 know, I just don't want to learn about this. And I was like, 237 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.160 I don't understand who's going to use I don't understand how it will be 238 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.880 used. And she said to me, she said what my daughter watches. 239 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:25.599 PUTS ON HER OCULUS TO WATCH NETFLIX. I was like, why on Earth 240 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:30.640 would you put on a heavy d glasses to watch TV when I all I 241 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.599 have to is just hit a remote watch TV right here. And she said, 242 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.559 well, so here's the things. She can put it on and her 243 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.680 friend who lives in Texas can put it on and they can watch the same 244 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:48.160 movie together and they can turn their head and see one another and they can 245 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:51.559 be they can choose where they're watching it. It could be up in the 246 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:55.839 mountains with its snowing, instead of sitting on the couch in Seattle, you 247 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.680 know, on a ninety degree day. You know, it's the front through 248 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:02.640 the humidity. If you know, they can be wherever they want to get 249 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:06.319 the other to watch this movie. And I was like okay, okay, 250 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.960 but I think I get it, you know, and so that's when I 251 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.440 was like, I'll just start learning about it. And it's really, like 252 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:19.079 I said before, I think that when some of the richest men that have 253 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:27.559 own technology companies are investing billions of dollars into this technology, you're naive to 254 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:32.680 not pay attention. HMM. And because it's going to be happening whether we 255 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.680 like it or not. You know it's going to be coming in. The 256 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:38.799 longer you put off learning about it, the further behind you're going to get. 257 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.440 Okay, guys, so is this? Do you think we're going to 258 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:48.920 turn into like that movie? Ready Player one, ready player one. Yeah, 259 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:52.799 we're going to be it did yeah, I do. We're going to 260 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.559 stack up mobile homes and storage. You know what, it's already happening. 261 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:02.440 millennials are already buying these little tiny home storage units. So maybe this little 262 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:06.759 Talcuo show. Okay, so I think about the pandemic ability, think about 263 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:11.519 why, why we met you and I would have never crossed path through ever, 264 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:18.720 but we were stuck at home, away from all of our outside friends 265 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:23.079 or family, and we were craving other human interaction, and so we were. 266 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:29.599 We opened ourselves up to make friends with strangers on the Internet and from 267 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:33.319 making friendships on the Internet, now all of a sudden, Oh, I'm 268 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:36.720 in this facebook, come join my discord, come join, you know, 269 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:42.440 my mighty networks community. And what we've been doing is creating these little micro 270 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:49.640 communities of people where we have similar things in common and we no longer have 271 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:53.079 borders. There's no more boarders for us, there's no more, you know, 272 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.400 state lines, there's no more, you know, hashtags that I just 273 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.039 wasn't serting, so I would never come across to you. We've found a 274 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:04.960 way to meet each other and that's that's what web three and and especially nft's 275 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:11.160 have done. You have the opportunity to meet people from anywhere based on a 276 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.559 common interest. So so I think those are all really good like use cases, 277 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.640 and I hundred percent agree. So, like we all met on clubhouse 278 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.799 and then took those relationships other places, doing a live stream together. Like 279 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:27.920 I'm working with two PU and said meadows on this show every week that I 280 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:30.519 both both of you. All I met on clubhouse. I've never met you 281 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:34.960 in real life and we become friends. And so I think that is some 282 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.039 of the benefits of, you know, web three and kind of moving into 283 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:42.720 this this digital world. But from my understanding it's the web, like people 284 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:48.000 are saying, like from Web two to web three, is this big decentralization 285 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:52.640 of people like Mark Zuckerberg, people like Bill Gates to say hey, we're 286 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:57.200 going to take control away from you guys, who are the rich white dudes 287 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:00.440 with a bunch of money telling us how we need to interact with each other. 288 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.759 So what is in it for Mark Zuckerberg? Do you think that the 289 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.480 see just trying to grab the Mataver? What's The metaver? Mataver? So 290 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:12.599 it just his own so his own world, I guess. Yes. So 291 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:18.079 do you remember Ari niceman? He was on clubhouse a bunch. I have 292 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:23.400 hosted a bunch of rooms with him, and those like clubhouse for beginner's rooms. 293 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:27.599 Well, he owns a music entertainment company and during the pandemic he built 294 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:33.240 I metaverse, and in this metaverse you have the opportunity to walk around a 295 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:40.119 virtual convention and go see virtual musicians have a concert and you have your own 296 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.839 little Avatar. You can walk around and you know, at the time I 297 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:47.160 remember him sending us because hey, yeah, check my belt, and I 298 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:51.279 was like that's kind of cool, but it was next level. That's what 299 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:56.000 that's what these guys in tech or creating is that I think about fortnight. 300 00:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.039 Think about road box. You know, what your people are doing is they're 301 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:06.640 taking their little game pieces and they can use their virtual money, their virtual 302 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.599 tokens, to buy a new outfit, to buy some shoes, to buy 303 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:15.880 a cool you know, like my daughter plays animal crossing cut. She's seven, 304 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.640 but I mean she was so excited when she got was able to buy 305 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:22.640 her first bed for in the house. So I mean like, but that's 306 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.359 what it's moving towards. Is, yeah, you can you know, I'm 307 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:30.119 sitting here in this office, but let's say in the metaverse I can have 308 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:34.559 enough social tokens that I can make it a really sweet office overlooking, you 309 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.960 know, the ocean with you know may maybe I can make it like the 310 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:41.680 hunger games and have like the giant mountains with, you know, ocean in 311 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:45.519 front of me and, you know, floor to ceiling windows, because I 312 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.799 have enough tokens. So I mean, like that's what it is. It's 313 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:55.720 about digital currency, in this digital world that you are going to be able 314 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.759 to live and do business in and hang out with people in and, you 315 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.839 know, go see music, music concerts in. I mean, who was 316 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.880 it? I'm blinking on his name. He did a concert in fortnight. 317 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:12.640 He's like a rapper. Who was that? There's a little Wayne, I 318 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:17.039 don't know, snoop dog or somebody. I'm sure somebody, I'm sure student, 319 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.759 did a virtual con or maybe it was Kendrick Lamar, I don't know, 320 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:25.559 but somebody did a concert in fortnight and everyone showed up and that I 321 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:30.119 sal Avatar didn't be doing that. I can't remember. I don't know. 322 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.480 That mean the world so in. This is the thing about it. It's 323 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:36.160 like the world is kids the days. Yes, like the world's moving so 324 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.680 fast, and I think it's. But you know what makes me nervous about 325 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:44.000 it is it is the it is clubhouse. You know, clubhouse started off. 326 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:45.160 It was banging, it was awesome, it was great. People were 327 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:52.319 going there in now in my community that I built there it's a ghost town. 328 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.119 I don't know about everybody else, but there's no podcasting rooms, there's 329 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.119 no live shimming rooms. I mean there is some, but not like you 330 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.440 know, at during the middle of the pandemic, it was like a ton 331 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.960 of podcasting stuff, a ton of them, and now the only people that 332 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:12.920 are jumping in it are people who built really big podcast audiences. You have 333 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:15.240 seen them for like eight months and they jump back in like Oh, I 334 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.480 get this nft project and I'm like, are you kidding me right now, 335 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.759 like this is just got to be a cash grab. And I think this 336 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:26.279 is what makes me so nervous about all these projects and coins and this token 337 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.279 and that token and this thing and that thing. It's like at some point 338 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.039 it's like, are you just trying to rake me over the coals or you 339 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.240 really want to build a community with me? And that's what makes me so 340 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.799 nervous. And I know there's good and bad and everything, so I can't 341 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:44.240 speak for everybody, but it does make me nervous a little bit now. 342 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:45.519 I hear you. I mean like, and that's the thing is, is 343 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:51.880 how you know what's a good community or a good project to buy into. 344 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:55.640 But this is the thing too. Is like when you get an NFT and 345 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.240 I we haven't really talked into like we've mostly been talking about metaverse and what 346 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:03.240 does this mean for true media? But I mean, let's say that you 347 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:07.200 buy into an NFT project. So there's a number that I've bought into and 348 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.839 there's a number that I'm super duper active in their discords and in their communities 349 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.079 and I joined their twitter spaces and I've talked to these guy other people in 350 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:19.640 the DM's kind of like how club house used to be, and we're all 351 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.000 based on a common interest. So one of them, I'm a part of 352 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:29.079 his called the Meta athletes, and Roger Clemens is in it and Ivon tave's 353 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.079 from the Colorado Avalanche. I mean that there's a lot of athletes that are 354 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:37.079 in this community, but then there's just a lot of fans like me and 355 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.839 people that love sports and we want to talk about exercising in mindset and we 356 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.200 want to talk about the game that we're watching, and so, I mean 357 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.160 that's where I've I've found my community, and the only reason, you know, 358 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.599 I can go on and on about how great it is, but then 359 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.880 like my buddy events, he's like I that would not do anything for me 360 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.599 because I want don't live in America, so I don't know anything about American 361 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.480 sport. But to I don't like sports and ways. So why would I 362 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:04.319 want to buy that? Enough, he so, I mean you have to 363 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.720 do your own research. Yeah, because when you buy into these communities, 364 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:14.119 you buy these end of tees, you're buying kind of buying friends. So 365 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:15.519 who do you want to be friends with? Who Do you align with? 366 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:21.400 That is one aspect of the energiesis is the social token. But I mean 367 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:27.920 and the community. But it's a different way of finding I don't like this 368 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.640 term. I need to find another way of saying it, but finding your 369 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.119 tribe, you know, finding your people, finding those that you are aligned 370 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.759 with. Okay, yeah, no, I agree with that. I mean 371 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.119 and I think it is cool. Like I think there's a lot of awesome 372 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:44.559 use cases for so will there be social media, will there be instagram, 373 00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:48.880 will there be facebook, or will all this stuff just get absorbed into the 374 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.000 metaverse and it'll be like, oh, I want to look at this guy's 375 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.559 pictures, so I just go to his picture room or I just go and 376 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.839 walk into his living room and look around like a grandma's house when I was 377 00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:04.400 nine. It's kind of interesting, but we want to keep saying part of 378 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.039 me is I'm like mad, don't know you. I think it'll get there 379 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:12.400 someday, but think this was what makes me feel really old is that like 380 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:17.960 eighteen years ago, none of this existed. Yeah, it's become such a 381 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.440 part of our lives in less than two decades that I mean like for craning 382 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.839 a lot. I remember the very, very first cell phone, like the 383 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.400 one the Zach Morris saved by the Bell, you know, giant brick. 384 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.640 That was our for cell phone. And now we're walking around with computers in 385 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.279 our back pockets. Yeah, you know, crazy we have. It's I 386 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.920 mean technology is moving very, very fast, and so for me to say 387 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:41.839 like Oh yeah, well, I think I could get there someday. You 388 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:47.559 know, maybe in my our kids a dime billy, but this could be 389 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.400 a five in five years. This is how we do it. And all 390 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:53.359 of a sudden we're like man, remember when we thought that the whole like 391 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:59.599 Avatar thing, the whole PfP profile picture changing thing was, you know, 392 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.599 like so outrageous. I mean we'll better it could be like that or we 393 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.400 could say, like remember how when we all thought that we're going to be 394 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.240 talking, you know, and crews around and flying cars on the back of 395 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.960 the future? I mean, who knows, but the way that technology and 396 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.359 the money that's been invested in it right now, I think it's going to 397 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:23.559 happen sooner, sooner than we expect. Yeah, and I guess if they 398 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.319 add, because that was one of my questions for is like because I see 399 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.720 people who are going to be, I feel like you and some other people 400 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.279 in my circle, or like let's go, let's go figured out, let's 401 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.680 like be first adopters, like let's really run after it. I'm probably somewhere 402 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.160 like in the middle, because I'm just like you know what I don't I 403 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.279 got stuff I'm trying to do as far as like businesswise, and I don't 404 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.759 really want to make the investment in all these different projects. I don't really 405 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.000 want to take the time to understand them, and I will, upon your 406 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.480 recommendation or a few other people out like maybe buy and a project or whatever, 407 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.359 but I'm not like studying this space at all. And then I have, 408 00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.359 you know, people like you know that are not going to do it. 409 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.200 I mean they're just like I'm done, I'm not going to do that. 410 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.759 However, there's people probably said they're not going to get on facebook either. 411 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.119 Not everyone's on facebook, so I don't know. But what do you 412 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.839 what do you think as far as like, but this is the thing, 413 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:25.440 go ahead. I mean people that say like oh well, there's still are 414 00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.799 people that aren't on facebook, because are. I mean there's still people that 415 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:33.839 are on any social media and true what there's there's so still some people that 416 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:41.119 are out there that that are fortunate enough to only have the circle of people 417 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.119 in their network be the people that they meet in real life, and I 418 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.400 that's probably I'm not saying that real life interaction are ever going to go away. 419 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:56.160 I mean I just went to to in real life or IRL events and 420 00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.920 it was so great to see these people, but I have to say that 421 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.480 it was awesome to be like so like I met Brian Fanzo and hung out 422 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.000 with them and it was like hanging out with a friend because we had talked 423 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:11.640 to each other and discord. I'd been in his, you know, clubhouse 424 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.799 rooms, I've been in his twitter spaces. He knew who I was and 425 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.119 it was just like, Oh this is you in real life. High so 426 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.039 I don't think that in real life connections are going to be going away. 427 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.079 I just feel like this is going to be a whole new way to grow 428 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.319 your circle. Gotchas, so this must yeah, so I agree and I 429 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:33.720 think that it does lesson the trust, timing or whatever whatever with people, 430 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.319 you know, because I know there's people I'll do business with off a clubhouse 431 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.720 because I'm like, Oh, I feel like I know them, so I'll 432 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.079 do business with them or whatever. I've never met them in person, I 433 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.440 don't have a relationship outside of clubhouse with them, all that kind of stuff. 434 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.400 So do you see that there's going to be and I guess there will 435 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.279 be, like if we're creating virtual spaces and we're designing our virtual offices and 436 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:01.440 or virtual homes or hubs or whatever we call them, I guess there's that's 437 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:06.359 going to be the new can you know? I guess we're just talking a 438 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.119 lot about web three, but it's metaverse, but it's just talking about replacing 439 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:15.680 these social spaces. So I guess we will hang out in rooms with our 440 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.319 you know, our contacts in or our sunglasses or whatever as we sit in 441 00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.400 our office. Is like yeah, I mean, I I don't know. 442 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.039 I'll to be one of those Clunky, you know, VR headsets. I 443 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.119 think that that's going to be going away. It'll probably be see something like 444 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.000 do you remember the Google Lens? I think that's what it was, called 445 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:38.119 laical lenses and they were they're like glasses. So the feeling will be like 446 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:43.720 that and we can then see people as they are or we can hit a 447 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:50.519 switch and see them as their little PfP picture. And I mean with instagram 448 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:55.240 making the announcement that they're going to be incorporating fts into instagram, you know, 449 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.759 one of the things that they're going to do is have these D avatars 450 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.839 of your PfP. So let's say I want to show up as my met 451 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.640 athlete and you know, first through stickers and stories, I can actually show 452 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:12.759 up as I talking Avatar, and that's that's what I think is going to 453 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:17.160 be like the first rollout, and it's it's gaming. Like, you know, 454 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.640 I grew up playing video games out and about, you billy, but 455 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.279 I mean I still play some hockey video games and played the SAMs. But 456 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:30.359 I feel like it's going to be that next level of like incorporating gaming into 457 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:36.279 group communities into transparent, you know, purchases, if that makes sense. 458 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.039 Yeah, I get to study the simpsons. You know, the simpsons are 459 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.039 always years ahead of us. I got to go. We canna go watch 460 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.720 some starts see what's happening. I don't think it's a really interesting world. 461 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.400 I think it's an interesting space. I'm not anti web anything. I'm not 462 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.079 inside web three. I mean, I I don't know that. If I 463 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.200 is, this was ten years ago, I'd be like a super quick adopter, 464 00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.839 because that's who I was ten years ago. I think I'm more cautious 465 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.279 now than ever, but I do think it will be interesting. In I 466 00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.280 haven't played video games in a long time, so that's that's you know, 467 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:15.559 my wife is like anti video game because I would be addicted to it. 468 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.239 So that's my other concern for me is my personality go like look, even 469 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.199 with live streaming the cow lovel I would live stream all day every day if 470 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.639 I can figure out how to make money at it and take care of my 471 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.519 family. I'd be like, Oh, cool, honey, I'm going in 472 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.480 here to turn on my computer for eight hours and I'm just going to live 473 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.119 stream and do whatever. Like it's a lot of fun, but that's the 474 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.840 you know, addicting personality. So it'll be interesting long term to see what 475 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:44.599 this does healthwise to people, like if it motivates them, inspires them, 476 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.559 you know, or if it, you know, makes people wither away and 477 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.480 lose relationships and become like those because we all know those people who've sit in 478 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:58.239 front of their computer for hours, basically pan in bottles and eating pizza in 479 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.000 never moving and losing their whole entire families, in their whole entire lives. 480 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.320 And that's like kind of scary, and that's what that's what is kind of 481 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.639 like. Is that kind of be us, like, because I missed people 482 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.559 in real life, like, I know, I've been on an island in 483 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:14.559 a country I don't speak the language, so I've been isolated for ten months. 484 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:15.639 I'm like the last thing I want to do is put on a headset 485 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.639 and sit in my office and right, what's up, guys, like I 486 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.079 want to go see people, you know. So I'm a little different perspective. 487 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:27.119 Well, but I mean, I could feel too, you know, 488 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.199 it was that's one of the things we all love about clubhouse. You though, 489 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:36.440 it's just a picture, a smiling picture that had a little gray vibrating 490 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.960 thing with someone was talking. I would go in a room. I feel 491 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.880 like I was hanging out with my friends, like, I'll see billy's taken 492 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:44.840 the stage. I was going there and listen to them. Hey, band, 493 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:46.719 you know, maybe I'll come up for a minute, but it's still 494 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.960 feels like I'm hanging out with my friends. It doesn't feel like I'm just 495 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.119 sitting on the phone right through. So it'll probably just ease us into it, 496 00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.599 just like everything else. It'll just like, let's become a part of 497 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.840 life, just like careing our phones room. What I think? Yeah, 498 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.599 no, exactly. And I think that if it if the panda, I 499 00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.519 do think that if the pandemic had not happened and shut down, I mean 500 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.800 because it wasn't just like the state of Colorado or I mean it was the 501 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.599 entire world. So everyone had to figure out new ways to meet people. 502 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:21.400 Everyone had to figure it out and and it. I don't think anyone's going 503 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.559 to go back to me and like oh well, I don't talk to people 504 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:28.559 online. You know, I feel I feel like this is this is going 505 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.039 to it's way more mainstream. Mean think about meeting, you know, a 506 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:37.880 significant other on matchcom or are on the harmony. Back when I was in 507 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.320 college, it was like, Oh gosh, I don't want to tell people 508 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.920 that I'm on match, but now it's I was like, Oh, yeah, 509 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.079 we met online, it's not a big deal. Yeah, and I 510 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:50.079 think it's get to watch out for those filters. You know what's up for 511 00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.719 those filter avatars, though. They're going to get you. Yeah, for 512 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.679 Real, for you all, and I mean like that's one of things too, 513 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.800 is if we're all got walking around as these cartoon dogs or or ape 514 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.239 Sir drafts, and that's how we always like, you know, I there's 515 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.559 there's one person that's I always see as a giraffe and I'm like, I 516 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.920 don't you know that that guy could be sitting right next to me in this 517 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.320 office, right over here, I would never know it was him, because 518 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.840 I just know him as this Giraffe, you know, and so it gives 519 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.800 you that kind of a humandity, I guess, like you want to carry 520 00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:28.800 it well, and that's kind of the the the interesting thing about, you 521 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.079 know, for my research of like web three and all this to centralized stuff. 522 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:35.400 Is it, you know, like right now, like Mark Zuckerberg his 523 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.679 team bill get, you know, all these guys, Jeff Bezos, like 524 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.960 they can like basically track everything you're doing, like even if you are like, 525 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.840 I mean, you know, I was. I heard somebody talk about 526 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:50.199 that. They started getting ads for, you know, baby stuff and being 527 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.000 a Dad and like a dad journal and all this stuff, and he's like 528 00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.320 why am I getting this? And then like a few days later, his 529 00:37:55.360 --> 00:38:00.039 wife's like, Hey, I'm pregnant and you know, so she'd probably been 530 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.000 doing some research, looking up stuff like blah, blah, blah, Blah 531 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:07.440 Blah, and then he starts getting targeted for that information and it's like holy 532 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.800 cal do, that's so weird. But I guess with this, from my 533 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:16.719 understanding, it's supposed to kind of deteriorate that control system in and it becomes, 534 00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.880 you know, less and less of like one corporation owner data. Yeah, 535 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:27.519 yeah, so I guess that's the it's the safety and the non safety 536 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.840 of it, because it seems like you can just get into a metaverse and 537 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.480 screw some stuff up and nobody is all accountable because they can just like hide 538 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.159 it within this virtual world. It's definitely kind of the wild wild west right 539 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:42.800 now, but I mean it's it. I do I do think that with 540 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:50.320 with our data? Why, why are we allowing a bunch of rich white 541 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.199 men to own it? Why are we giving up all of our access to 542 00:38:54.280 --> 00:39:00.239 our shopping history to strangers and took brands and businesses? Now, as a 543 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.840 marketer, I love it because I can target exactly who I want to see 544 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.360 my ads. But at the same time, as a content creator, billy, 545 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.800 don't you think that you so if you make some real and it goes 546 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.159 viral and you get over a million views on it and you're talking about a 547 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:21.199 swifter, like, you know, those dust things. Let's say you're just 548 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:25.239 talking about a swifter just because to be funny, and it goes viral and 549 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:34.760 let's say facebook gives you three hundred bucks for it. You cause so much 550 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.320 content for that, for that business. You made so much money for facebook 551 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:43.440 and probably for the swifter. But I mean like, why should you only 552 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.239 get three, three hundred bucks? Shouldn't you own what you're creating? Shouldn't 553 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.679 you own your community? Shouldn't you own your your followers? I mean that 554 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:58.519 we saw last year when facebook went down. Everyone on facebook and instagram was 555 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.920 like Bo what do I do? I've never gotten more emails in my entire 556 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:07.360 life because everyone went to their email list. It was like facebook is down. 557 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:08.880 If you still want to do business with me, here's where my website 558 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.119 but I mean, Kabie, I hold the cops. They didn't do anythings 559 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.000 like cold you help me. So, yeah, I do remember that, 560 00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:23.079 people calling that woman like that. That's businesses, in brands and creators should 561 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.840 be able to shouldn't have to rely on somebody else if they want to talk 562 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.960 to their to their community. Yeah, so, but but we're still going 563 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.199 to rely on someone else, right, unless we all create our own world 564 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.000 and invite people to them. Right. Well, and I mean this is 565 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.840 this is kind of where, you know, having those those discords, having 566 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.960 those nfts, that that's kind of I believe the first step into this matter 567 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:58.519 verse space is Nfts, because it's it's you finding. I mean these I 568 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.320 oft communities, allot of them, are no different than a facebook group. 569 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.920 You know, you just don't need to spend your time on facebook to be 570 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.440 a part of it. He's got to spend all day on discord. But 571 00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:10.280 I mean you can still watch live video, you can still have social audio 572 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:14.239 chats, you can, I mean like, you can still have conversations being 573 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:19.119 made. So I think that it's we're still trying to we're still trying to 574 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.400 figure it all out, but I do think that vet's are the first step 575 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:30.039 into the metaverse and what you know with with these big players in the text 576 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:35.400 space, Elon, with twitter, suck with Facebook, you know Bill Gates 577 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.079 with Linkedin. It's just a matter of time until some level of US immersing 578 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.119 our self one hundred percent into their platforms is going to happen. Yeah, 579 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.440 yeah, that makes sense. I mean that's whether that's why they're there's whe 580 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.760 they're trying to pave the way and gain control and all that kind of fun 581 00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:57.159 stuff. I mean, is what it is and I think that's the challenge 582 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.440 for us. But you know, so I guess my question it would be 583 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.519 this like, and I'm trying to brainstorm use cases, is like a creator, 584 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:08.039 like if I create this real I mean, what does creating it in 585 00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.960 web three versus web to give me any more rights and access to it? 586 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.480 Is it a turn into an N FFT and I sell it to that company 587 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.199 or what? I mean, how does that work like? What do you 588 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.119 what do you foresee? I know we're and I know stuff is like we're 589 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.960 speculating, because everything's being made up. It seems like every single day something 590 00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:32.440 news happening. So yeah, I mean that that's where, you know, 591 00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:37.599 if I I didn't unboxing for these issues, actually that I'm warning right now. 592 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.480 So I didn't done boxing for them, and I got a lot of 593 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.320 people saying like Oh, what brand ors those? Where'd you get those? 594 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.280 That out it? Uh. Well, you know, if I wanted to 595 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:58.199 sell that little video to Incas, which is where I got the shoes, 596 00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.639 and be like hey, look, a lot of people like this unboxing that 597 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.920 I did, you know, it's five bucks. You can use it on 598 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.840 your platforms, you know, and that way I'm getting credit, you know. 599 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:13.039 So that's that's where you could sell it to brand. You could turn, 600 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.920 like you said, turn it into an nft a one of one and 601 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.679 like okay, if you want to have this, this video without hit over 602 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.320 a million people or whatever, if you want to own the rights to this 603 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:29.360 episode of creating daily, you know it'll cost x and it might cost fourteen 604 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:34.000 cents. Or let's say someone buys it and really likes it and wants to 605 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.639 turn it into a TV episode and they want to sell out for fourteen hundred 606 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.320 you still get a percentage of that because you were the original creator. So, 607 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.440 no matter what happens to it, everyone has the opportunity to you know, 608 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.559 you have the opportunity to continue making money off of it. Could you 609 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.039 with a creator? Yeah, that makes sense that I think that's a good 610 00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:58.679 thing about it too. It's like that's what I like about these nfte projects 611 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.039 as I can buy into it, I can watch it grow or want to 612 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.519 die, whatever, but any time I want to sell it, I can 613 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.639 probably get something back out of it and I think as a consumer that's really 614 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.440 amazing and I guess as the producer it's like, okay, this is cool. 615 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.480 I mean I guess it's cool. I'm trying to figure that out. 616 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.119 Like I signed Katie up. She buys my nft once she's in my community. 617 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.880 Now I'm signed up for like ten years to say, okay, I'm 618 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.199 going to show up every Thursday morning at five am to talk to you about 619 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.320 something. Like when does that end? For me, is the creator. 620 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.000 You know now I'm bound to tenzero people forever, you know, for that 621 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.320 utility so well, but then people that you know, let's say, let's 622 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:42.079 say you change it and like actually it's just going to be once a month 623 00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.280 now and people are like, well, this isn't what I bought in for, 624 00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.159 then then, just so they can tell it all right, well, 625 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.840 I was good, buy it like good with once a month. That works 626 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.079 for me. So those utilities are flexible. It's not. It's not a 627 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:58.039 contract for the life of ownership. It's just whatever I deem at that moment, 628 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:04.639 whatever time Gotcha. See, that's the stuff that I think is really 629 00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:06.880 important. Maybe we could go through that, because I know you're you start 630 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.119 a NFT challenge, so you've probably walking through that. So I didn't show 631 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.440 up tonight one, so this probably my fault. Probably answer all these questions. 632 00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:16.400 So tell us about that, because here's the thing that I think is 633 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.639 really interesting is there's a lot of people excited about it, but I hardly 634 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.519 know any people who really know like what the heck is going on as a 635 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.599 consumer. I mean I know like people like you and some other people are 636 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.519 producing projects, but I'm like, Hey, you just bought fivezero dollars worth 637 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:36.360 nfte's and like what do you know about the projects there are? God, 638 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.280 I don't know, man. Somebody told me I just got a metal wallet 639 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:42.119 and that's it, and I'm buying stuff and I'm like, yeah, this 640 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.320 is what I just don't like about this stuff. It's like it's like a 641 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.119 real like hype industry right now. It seems like in it seems super volatile, 642 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.599 and that's what I'm trying to figure out, is like how is the 643 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.320 Creator? Do I get into the space but do it in a way that 644 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.000 is really beneficial to people, because I just don't want to do a cash 645 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:06.400 grab and I don't want anybody grabbing my cash either. Yeah, for Real, 646 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:08.960 and I think that that is where the the whole nft space is getting 647 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.320 kind of a bad rap, because there are people that are out there just 648 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.440 making cash grabs and trying to, you know, like mint out and then 649 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:20.119 that's it and then you get the rug pulled. So so well, last 650 00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.840 night, you know, we it's a five day challenge and at the end 651 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.920 of this challenge you're going to walk away with your own and ft and for 652 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:31.079 free in your own little hot wallet. But yet that last night's episode was 653 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:36.440 kind of just what of what's the what is an nft? And for anyone 654 00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.639 listening, and nft is a non fungible token, and I had no idea 655 00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:46.239 what the word fungible meant before Ed teas came out. But if it just 656 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:54.880 really quickly something fungeable, fungeable is like a dollar. So I could give 657 00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.840 you ten dollars, billy, and then say hey, yeah, pay me 658 00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.360 back next week, and you could give me ten dollars back. Now it 659 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.719 might not be the exact same ten dollar bill, but it's still works the 660 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:09.719 same way. I can still spent. You can give me a five and 661 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:16.480 five one. It's that's fungeable. Now, non fungeable is like the Mona 662 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:22.840 Lisa. I give you the Mona Lisa and say hey, I give this 663 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:28.480 back to me for my gallery next week, and you give me a mon 664 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:30.480 A, I'm going to be really mad. I mean you have both great 665 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.320 pieces of art, very very valuable pieces of art, but I didn't get 666 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.599 you know, I didn't give you a Monea, I gave you the Mona 667 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.360 Lisa. So that is something that is non fungible. So we talked about 668 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:49.199 that last night. Today we are going to be diving into technology. So 669 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:53.400 like what is a cold wallet? What is the block chain? Tomorrow's we're 670 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.400 going to be talking all about how you how you can use it as a 671 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:01.159 creator and in showing different case studies of like how a nonprofit has done it, 672 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.480 how small businesses are doing it, how different musicians are doing it. 673 00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.280 So Day three is going to be showing you a lot of examples and then 674 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.760 we get into it. But again, at the very end of the whole 675 00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:19.800 challenge you are going to walk away with a free nftee and you get some 676 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.480 we get. We're giving away prizes every day too, so you get some 677 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:27.079 fun stuff. That's awesome. So is this an nft that you or launching 678 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.400 or is it someone else's project in your being a part of it? So 679 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:37.719 the Yes, yes, launching both of them. So it's my very first 680 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:44.119 NFT project that I've been a part of and it's me and my friend Vince, 681 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:49.840 and he lives in New Zealand and our artist lives in Australia. So 682 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:54.800 I mean like we're a global NFTE company, but it's the first, the 683 00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:59.400 first one that you get is is called a country club nft and it's just 684 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.800 too it's free and the whole purpose behind it is just to give you a 685 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:08.239 transparent way of NFT's and how you can use them if you want to sell 686 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.400 it on the open on open sea. Just see what that's like. It 687 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:16.199 didn't cost you anything just to get started. And so so, yeah, 688 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:21.199 so we I think this, like I said before, and I we're kind 689 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:22.920 of at the end of our time, billy, but I think this, 690 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:29.239 this web three space, is coming and if we can just pay it forward 691 00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:32.599 and try to all learn about it together now, and hey, if it 692 00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.960 doesn't end up working out, you got to learn about some really cool ways 693 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:44.000 of building community and finding community and some really cool technology. But if it 694 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.119 is the future, well then you are going to be one step ahead of 695 00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.079 everyone else. You are going to be able to help more of those around 696 00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.559 you learn about this, because it's it's not easy. There's a lot of 697 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:58.440 new lingo, there's a lot of new terms, it's a lot of newness 698 00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.639 around technology, and I mean I remember my very remember with my first iphone. 699 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.880 I was like, why would I want to have, you know, 700 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.119 music on my phone? I have my ipod and I like having my two 701 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:14.360 devices and I can't. I don't even know anyone that els an ipod now. 702 00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:22.840 So I remember those days too. I remember when picture messaging came out 703 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:28.039 on the IPHONE. I was selling iphones and it was like, dude, 704 00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.639 this is crazy, but you could even send a picture for like five days, 705 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.960 like you just couldn't do it. So super amounts of fun. Yeah, 706 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.000 I think it's going to be and I think it's going to get easier. 707 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.400 You know, right now it is. It is a pain, you 708 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:43.519 know, and that's a part of the reason why I'm like, Dude, 709 00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.239 I don't want to have to study how to give money away, like this 710 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:52.159 is the hardest ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my entire life. In like 711 00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.519 to buy an NFD for the first time Twen, I was like yeah, 712 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.119 but I was like, Oh, I gotta get a Wallet, Oh it's 713 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.239 going to be eat, oh it's going to be this coin. Could be 714 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:01.800 that point, I'm like too, can we just please? And I think 715 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.360 this's the, you know, some of the pain points which hopefully get worked 716 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.440 out and hopefully the technology or the or, you know, the systems are 717 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:13.599 in place where people can take their real money and buy their fake money. 718 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:15.239 So this be you know what I'm saying. It's like, how do I 719 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:21.159 just credit card one making it's you know, you're saying like, Oh, 720 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.639 I gotta buy eight and are a know it's bitcoin or what, but we 721 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.079 have a lot of currency in the world as it is. If I wanted 722 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.559 to send, if I wanted to end thence in Australia some money, if 723 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:36.199 I said, Hey, I want to go ahead and buy your your book 724 00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.360 from you, or I want to pay for your some coaching from you, 725 00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.880 it's would have to go through a water transfer, like I can't send him 726 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:49.239 US dollars, you know, like my contractors, one of my designers, 727 00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.559 she lives overseas and I have to send a wire transfer for her and the 728 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.639 value fluctuates. It's the same idea. You know, we use have money 729 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.159 without orders, though, but I think the difference, though, if I 730 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.880 had to push back on that a little bit, is it's like every project 731 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.039 it seems like someone's like, Oh, check at my project. There, 732 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.360 cool, I'm going to go check it out. Oh, I like this, 733 00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:14.159 I'm going to buy and they use like a different blockchain and there's like 734 00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.719 twenty five different blockchains. I'm like why? I mean, can you know? 735 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.400 So now I got Eith, but then I got to like transfer that. 736 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.360 Then I get pre this gas fee which is more than the amount of 737 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.880 eat I have in my account, and I'm like how? Why? This 738 00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.000 is so complicated. But I'm looking. I know it's going to get easier. 739 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:35.719 It has to if the general public is going to be a widespread adoption 740 00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:37.880 and people were going to do it, because it just can't be complicated. 741 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.880 And this is you know, there's somebody that is in my circle and they 742 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:45.559 keep saying you need to drop an nft for your fishing podcast, and might 743 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.440 dude, I have two hundred members signed up, or nearly two hundred's getting 744 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:54.480 it's getting close, for additional membership. But it's easy. It's a it's 745 00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:59.599 a put your credit card number in. It's automatically deducting every single month. 746 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.800 You know, it's like simple. You get one log in. It's simple, 747 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.519 and I think that's where I've left. That's what I like to think 748 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:13.800 that the Seguay for you. If I, if it were if you were 749 00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.559 me, I would look into launching a creator coin. Yeah, but well 750 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.559 then, once again, like I did look into that. But I think 751 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.960 to get on some of these plat world comfort the platform I was looking at, 752 00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:30.159 it was like you're to have a ridiculous amount of influence on the Internet, 753 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:31.840 like followers and all that kind of stuff. I just don't think it's 754 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:37.519 for the average person to launch projects quite yet. Well, no, I 755 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:39.719 mean, like if that's with any sort of I mean like you have to 756 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:45.760 have a community already. Yeah, yeah, you have or something that. 757 00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:52.599 So, yeah, I mean like gets it's you have to have that community 758 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:57.000 already. And if, if you're looking for an easy entry of getting people 759 00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.280 into web, three creator coins are great way of doing it, because you 760 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:05.119 only need to have your credit card. You don't need to have an eth, 761 00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.079 you need to have a hot wallet, you don't need to have any 762 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.679 of that. So if you were going to create one, and I don't 763 00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:13.480 understand all this, I'm like, I'm looking into it, I mean I'm 764 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.320 studying it, and I'm being a peps a pestimist, a pestim I'm paying 765 00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:20.760 pep pestimistic whatever. However, TEP. Yeah, there we go. I 766 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:25.000 get say it because I because I am like okay, and it's really and 767 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.840 we could talk offline because it is one of those, you know, frustrating 768 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.360 things for me, because I do see power players in these markets who are 769 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:37.920 telling the average person, the average creator, like you can do this, 770 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.639 I'm going to help you and you're going to make a lot of money. 771 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:46.440 Off of it and I look at their online world and I go I know 772 00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:51.719 what this takes because I do have a decent size audience and I know the 773 00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.840 percentage of conversion that I've had in the first ninety days of this project. 774 00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:00.079 In this is a huge learning curve for the average person and you don't have 775 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.880 a huge audience to even get a small percentage those like whatever percentage would convert 776 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:10.639 with us. D'S WAY probably way smaller to convert to a coin or right, 777 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:14.400 you know, rally corner, whatever that is. So but if I 778 00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:17.440 was going to start a coin, what platform would you recommend someone go to 779 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:22.719 and take a peek and see what the requirements are? Well, rally is 780 00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.599 one of the biggest ones out there and when you get started, they give 781 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:30.199 you like, depending on what your following is and everything, they give you 782 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.920 let's say Tenzero Tokens, and then that's where you can say, okay, 783 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.039 if you you know, buy in, you know, I'll give I'll match 784 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.320 you two to one. So then they get more tokens and all that, 785 00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:45.159 and you can use them as giveaways and people who are active in the community 786 00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:50.719 you can give them away. But I know I one hundred percent agree there 787 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.119 are some people out there who say like yeah, so let's go launch a 788 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:58.280 creator coin, and you have to have you have to have people that are 789 00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.960 already in your sphere. You can I mean you can't just be a start 790 00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:07.039 up with a hundred followers on instagram and expect to have a successful, you 791 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:13.480 know, crypto economy, a creator economy at right out the gate. And 792 00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.639 that's where web three, you know, we're sitting here doing this, live 793 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:21.920 together, we're collaborating, and that's what I think. You know, that's 794 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.840 what we learned from clubhouse. It's collaboration is everything. If you can find 795 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:31.920 other people in your industry or with a similar audience, you need to collaborate 796 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.639 with them if you want to have your project be a success. And that's 797 00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:44.440 what that's what I really love about web three is that these communities are collaborating 798 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:50.119 instead of competing, not worried about Oh, Nike versus Adidas. You know, 799 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:54.360 two people, you know to communities that have a similar audience are coming 800 00:56:54.400 --> 00:57:00.880 together to join forces to make everyone better, and that's that's why I see 801 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.440 coming from the the that's what three world. I think that we have to 802 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:12.199 be willing to collaborate with it. But as when you're first getting started, 803 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.719 collaboration is going to be everything for you and and that's really what's going to 804 00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:19.760 be the main driver of moving the needle. Yeah, I love that, 805 00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.400 Katie. I think you're one of the good ones. So I appreciate what 806 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:25.280 you're doing. I appreciate your running ahead and, you know, figuring the 807 00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.119 stuff out and bringing people along and doing your nft challenge. I think it's 808 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.000 huge, because I do think it's, you know, hugely important that we 809 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:37.880 learn this stuff but then also be, you know, mindful and cautious and 810 00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:39.960 make sure we're following our gut at the end of the day, because, 811 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.239 you know, I'm in these spaces all the time. I'm always trying, 812 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:45.480 you know, if somebody's trying to figure out how to monetize, its me, 813 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:50.360 like I'm over here like eyes wide open, like how do we make 814 00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.119 money as creators, because that's one of my passions, is to see people 815 00:57:53.800 --> 00:58:00.119 not be held by finances to launch their message. And so, you know, 816 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:04.079 I'm a little disappointed at times, you know, some most days, 817 00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.719 when I log in this somewhere and I'm like wow, this is really happening, 818 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:09.559 like you're you're just doing a cash grab, like this is cool, 819 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:13.760 like good for you, but I think it's you know, focus on what 820 00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.440 we're doing, folks, on learning it in, you know, connecting with 821 00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.440 the right people who are doing it, so truly build community, because I 822 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:25.199 do see even these communities that I'm like, I just feel lucky, but 823 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:30.960 they have this cult style following this blows me away and like wow, this 824 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.119 is crazy, you know. So, anyway, I'm rightly gonna get some 825 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.960 hate messages for this, but I think it's true. I think that's what 826 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.760 we're doing in the creator world. Is like we got to be true, 827 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:43.079 we got to be honest and we got to look at this thing through, 828 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.000 you know, like a lens of Hey, what's really going to benefit us 829 00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.159 at the end of the day, end of the day, and not just, 830 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:53.360 you know, creating the next Mark Zuckerberg in web three, right, 831 00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:59.719 because it's what it's yes, signed, not yet exactly. Anyway, Zac 832 00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:02.119 ranch is over, I hit a spot there. For a couple seconds, 833 00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:07.000 I've out lost my focus, because I just love people, man, I 834 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:09.480 want them to succeed and I don't want to see people get taken advantage of, 835 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:13.880 and this is no, I agree, just a everything. I mean 836 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.760 yeah, no, I built really I agree and I do think there will, 837 00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.960 just like with any space, any space, there's going to I mean, 838 00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:28.039 who else gets random text messages saying that you know so and so just 839 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.119 won the lottery? You know, to text them it with my Venmo so 840 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:35.599 I can get seventy grand. You know, true, there's always going to 841 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.079 be true honors out there. There's always going to be better trying to do 842 00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:43.000 things the wrong way and man, they're feel like these people, a lot 843 00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:45.679 of these people that are trying to that do it the wrong way. They're 844 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.760 so smart. If they just applied their their smarts for good, they could 845 00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.800 make such an impact in the world, but instead they're doing it the wrong 846 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:57.599 way and it's unfortunate. And then for you know, in that case you 847 00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.480 just really have to know who you who do all. I'm with and you 848 01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:05.079 know, do your research. Love it, Katie. Well, this has 849 01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:08.079 been a great conversation. Once again, I don't know that you and I'll 850 01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:10.639 be back next week. I kind of figure that out because that, like 851 01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:16.400 I said, I underestimated the the the bigness of a move, even though 852 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:21.519 I've already done it once in a year. But I really appreciate everything you're 853 01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.360 doing. I think you're awesome. Everyone to go follow Katie. I am 854 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:29.519 Katie Brinkley on instagram. I've linked your linked tree in the show note so 855 01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:32.000 people can find it there and follow you. Is Your Five Day challenge on 856 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:37.199 there on your linked tree? It isn't, but I hope go put it 857 01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:39.280 on there. Actually we're already started but, like I said, we only 858 01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:44.679 you can watch yesterday's video if you join the group today and, like I 859 01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.400 said, we walk you through step by step on how to do this whole 860 01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:52.159 n FFT thing. Why you should pay attention or you know, afterwards you 861 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:53.320 can walk away and be like, okay, that was interesting. It's not 862 01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:57.800 for me. So at least you learned something and very end of it you 863 01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.519 get your own free at that's awesome, Katie. High five to you and 864 01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:05.000 Vince for doing that, and we'll catch you next week for sure. Thank 865 01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.039 you so much for jumping in. Bye Bye. See you all right, 866 01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:13.800 everybody. That is a wrap for creating daily today. Hope you learned a 867 01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:15.639 lot. I learned a lot. I got some different perspective, I got 868 01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.400 my mind is going on a hundred miles an hour of like you know, 869 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.599 how do I get in here and study this web three because I've probably, 870 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:27.480 if you couldn't tell, been a little like I'm gonna Resist, but I 871 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.599 definitely think it is a thing for us to pay attention to and all these 872 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:35.039 bigger platforms are being attention to it, in even one of the platforms I'm 873 01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.960 live streaming onto right now, or really gearing up and really focusing on how 874 01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:42.679 can they be a part of web three and help creators and do all that 875 01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.280 kind of stuff. So really appreciate you join me. Join me tomorrow. 876 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:50.119 I'm going to be on with my friend Doc rock. If you don't know 877 01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.920 him, he's Biggen the live streaming world. Is a community manager over at 878 01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:57.639 e Cam. So his his video bet to be working on. Grill him 879 01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.199 right here on the show now. He's a good dude. We're going to 880 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.360 talk about the power of live streaming, probably all things creatorship live streaming. 881 01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.760 Super Great Guy and and he's got a goal to reach one billion people, 882 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:10.800 so we're going to dive into that. So join me tomorrow same time, 883 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.440 to PM Eastern time, one PM Central and and we'll see you then. 884 01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.320 All right, I have a great day and I'm gonna find my last scene 885 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.000 button here it's not here, there it is. See You guys later