Discord for Creators w/Keely Dunn

WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.280 --> 00:01:53.599 Take Taia. What is going on? Everyone? Welcome to another episode of 2 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:56.879 creating daily. I'm your host, Billy Thorpe, and if you've been here 3 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.840 before, welcome back. If you've never been here, this is the show 4 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.640 where I come on with people much smarter than me to talk about really cool 5 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.080 stuff that you can do as a creator to level up your whatever you're creating. 6 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.400 So if it's a live show, a podcast, a book, a 7 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:15.479 blog, a discord server, which is what we're gonna be talking about today, 8 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:17.120 because here in just a couple of minutes, my friend, my new 9 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:22.800 friend, Keiley Dunn of discord for Creator is gonna be joining me to talk 10 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:27.120 about discord. Now you might hear some background noise. Uh, there's some 11 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.280 children on the other side of this wall that I'm pretty sure is made out 12 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:35.000 of paper. Uh. So I apologize for any thuds and I will mute 13 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.479 while Keiley is giving us a discord education, uh, and try to monitor 14 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:42.120 that. But I want to welcome you to the show. Thanks for joining 15 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:45.879 me. Hit that like share, subscribe, all those fun things, and 16 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.599 I used to have like a little subscribe button that would pop up, but 17 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:51.120 I don't know where it's at. Um. And then real quick. I 18 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.479 want to give a shout out to ritual motion, and they do too. 19 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:58.719 Behind me. Ritual motion new sponsored the show. UH, they they're kind 20 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:00.960 of a unique positioning. 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So you can go check that out. 28 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:38.199 and Um and yeah, that is ritual motion and they are a big 29 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:42.879 supporter of the show and I'm working with those guys to, uh, yeah, 30 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.520 to help you creators. So there we go. That's that's the whole 31 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.240 pitch. That's the whole thing. And then also, I used to do 32 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.240 some segments on the show. I really stopped doing them. Let me know 33 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.879 if you want them back and I'll bring them back. But I think being 34 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.439 a solo host and doing a bunch of segments before I bring someone else on. 35 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.080 It was like a little tedious and, honestly, to me, just 36 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:09.439 quite boring, because I was like in the podcast news today Donald Trump made 37 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:14.199 a million dollars podcasting or something weird, and then there's no reaction, there's 38 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.879 no response, with just me reacting to my own news. Fine, so 39 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:21.079 let me know if you want those back. I'll bring him back, but 40 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:25.839 anyway, I'm gonna shut up now I'm gonna get ready to bring my friend 41 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:29.879 on, Keiley done, the queen of discord. That's what I call her. 42 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:30.879 It's queen of disc I don't know if that's real, but she is 43 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:35.639 a founder of discord for creators and she's helping a ton of creators just like 44 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:41.560 you and I get their community together, get it organized and uh, and 45 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:45.839 level up their memberships, level up their monetization, all that fun stuff. 46 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.120 So we're gonna jump right into it. I'm gonna Bring her on and I'm 47 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:53.680 gonna remind her to unmute herself. But here she is, Keiley done. 48 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:57.240 What's up? How are you? Hey, friend, I'm awesome. How 49 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.800 are you doing? Oh, I'm doing good. I'm trying to talk really, 50 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:02.079 so all the background noise like doesn't bleed through them, like meeting my 51 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:05.439 my button. So a little different show, but it's exciting. Change is 52 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:10.600 good. Don't don't worry about it whatsoever. I mean, the kids are 53 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.920 there. It's it's fine, it's fine, it's live. We got kids, 54 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.519 are having fun. It's all fun and Games until until if monster truck 55 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.600 flies through this back wall and hits me in the head, and then then 56 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:26.319 I'm gonna be upset about it, but until then it'll be fun. Well, 57 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.279 first of all, thank you so much for taking time out of your 58 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:31.759 day to come beyond the show. I'm super excited. I know we have 59 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:38.000 never officially met until about fifteen minutes ago, and even then we didn't even 60 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.959 do our little small talk and all that stuff. We just kind of started 61 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.959 chatting about life and whatever. So I feel like I already know you really 62 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:49.120 well and I feel a little bit hurt because I've been watching several of your 63 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:55.199 shows and, just like any good live stream viewer, I feel very attached 64 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:59.800 to you, like I feel like I really know you. So it'st dismay 65 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.600 to find this out. It's unfortunate for you that you feel like you know 66 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.480 me, I'm like that must be you must be you mus a really boring 67 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:11.560 life. You Chase me around the Internet. Well, that may be a 68 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.439 little bit true, but still, but still. You know, I think 69 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.800 it's been really fun. One of the things about, Um, you know, 70 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:21.040 US being live streamers is that you start creating all these contacts and little 71 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:25.399 networks and you and you sort of dive into some person's content, maybe for 72 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:28.680 a couple of weeks, and maybe you find something that resonates, maybe you 73 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:30.759 don't, and then you know, you're like, Oh, this person there 74 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.120 on their show and I'm gonna go find that person, and then you just 75 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:38.360 start branching off and I hear that's what they call networks on the Internet. 76 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.240 Yeah, I guess. Well, and that's kind of what happened. You 77 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:45.279 know how I found out about you? Because all of a sudden I saw 78 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:48.199 all these facebook communities as a part of going hey, guys, we're going 79 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:50.839 over to discord, not that we're leaving this, but we're just going over 80 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.240 the discord, and I'm like, what the heck is discord? Like, 81 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.839 what is this? And then I get on there and I'm like, Oh, 82 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.199 is this like made for Gamers, like they're I gotta be a Gamer 83 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:00.839 to be on. You know, it was like I was so confused and 84 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:05.360 still, quite frankly, I still confused and I have a discord server and 85 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:10.879 Um, but anyway, every time in those communities I would see you like 86 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.160 leading the pack and I'm like wait a second, like this lady is like 87 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:17.399 a discord pro like she knows what she's doing. And so that's where I 88 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:20.639 started following you around and trying to pick up tips and tricks and watch your 89 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.439 youtube channel and all that kind of fun stuff. Um, but I think 90 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.920 it was like Doc Rock and the CAM crew, where I where I learned 91 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:31.120 about you. So, Um, I'm excited to jump right into this and 92 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.000 some people on the chat or staying they're excited to learn about this as well. 93 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:40.439 So, before we jump into the tool for building a community, can 94 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.480 you just give me a little insight on like why is it important for us 95 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:47.959 as creators to now do one more thing on top of creating the content, 96 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:53.160 but now like going and creating more content and building relationships? Like why is 97 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:58.279 it so important for us to build a community? I I'm not sure that 98 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.959 every single person needs to build a community, every single creator, but what 99 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.600 I do think is if that you're the kind of creator WHO's trying to build 100 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.639 a relationship with people such that they have a deep sense of trust with you. 101 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:15.759 They want to consume your content, learn from your content, they want 102 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.560 to be a part of your world, they want to make friends with the 103 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.560 other people who are in your your your orbit, who are pursuing the same 104 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:30.240 sort of goals. That's where these very intimate community relationships are absolutely essential, 105 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:35.200 and it's hard to build those on what I would call sort of more one 106 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:41.240 and a half way communication platforms like Youtube. You know, when you and 107 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:45.480 I are streaming and we've got this audience and we're interacting with their comments and 108 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:46.679 we think, yeah, this is really great, we're having a two way 109 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:52.559 conversation. It's nothing like when you can get into a tool like discord, 110 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.200 but not exclusively, but like discord, where you can really have that back 111 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:00.480 and forth and then other people are jumping in the conversation. Shouldn't and you 112 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:01.639 can be a text and you can be a voice and you can be sharing 113 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.679 means and you can be doing all these things that help you learn about each 114 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:11.240 other. That's where the power of discord comes in. So if that's the 115 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:16.480 kind of creator you are, where you're looking for those super fans or those 116 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:18.919 true fans, then this is something that you might want to think about. 117 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.320 So, so, when you're talking about super fans or true fans, do 118 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.799 you think it is only beneficial for me to build a community if I have 119 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.080 like an offer or I plan on making an offer, like a business transaction? 120 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:37.080 Or should I be thinking about this anyway just to grow my you know, 121 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.879 influence or my you know whatever like or or is it like, Hey, 122 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.600 this is totally just monetary or, you know, to make more money, 123 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.240 to monetize? What's your thoughts on that? Or should I either way? 124 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:50.039 I should have been looking at it. I I think you should be 125 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.039 looking at it either way, because what you might have, for example, 126 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:58.879 with the community that I started on discord and sort of my other, uh 127 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:03.000 my hyphen other business. Um, I had built a community, but I 128 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.799 didn't have an offer for a very, very long time. I just had 129 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.879 I want people to learn about field hockey umpiring, I want them to cheer 130 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:13.120 each other on, I want them to support each other and I want to 131 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.639 be able to share stuff that I know. And it took me well about 132 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.519 fourteen years to figure out how I could, you know, possibly monetize it 133 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.600 or, you know, created into a business. And that's that's when I 134 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:33.799 started realizing if I bring people closer together, then I can learn what I 135 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.279 can provide to them. So if you don't have yeah, I think if 136 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.360 you don't have that connection, you can't hear the questions they're asking of you. 137 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.279 You can't hear what value you actually can give to them. So, 138 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:48.919 you know, you've got to find the problem to solve and if you're not 139 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:54.039 hearing back from the people who have the problems, you're not going to solve 140 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.759 anything. You're just talking to have fun, which is fine, which is 141 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:01.440 great. Yeah, I will. I love the fact that it's Um, 142 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.360 you know, you're kind of building your own market to research. Essentially, 143 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.360 it's like, you know, you can go out there, you can do 144 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.080 all the heavy lifting and and maybe dive into other people's communities and all that 145 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.840 stuff, but when you're, like you said, building that trust, building 146 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.279 that relationship, people will probably open up and give you more issues that you 147 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.600 can help solve than you know you're ever going to find out with someone else's 148 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.279 community. And so I think that's you know, I think that's important because 149 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:30.559 I know oftentimes people who are trying to help others create a discord or a 150 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.000 facebook group or some type of community. It's always like you gotta have an 151 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.240 offer, you gotta have an offer, and I'm like, I don't think 152 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.519 so in my opinion, because long term it might change. Like right now 153 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.240 I may not have an offer. Like you said, you didn't have an 154 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:46.440 offer, but you built that trust with that community. You gave, gave, 155 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.440 gave, gave, gave, and then when it was time to say, 156 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.039 Hey, I have this product now everyone's like you got a better percentage, 157 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.240 going yeah, Duh, we've been here for five years, ten years, 158 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.720 we're hanging out with you, so let's do it. Um. It's 159 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.600 interesting when you use that word offer, because you and I know, because 160 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.559 we're in this space, that the word offer means I have something to sell 161 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.639 you that's going to solve a problem for you, that is valuable. But 162 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.759 actually, when you strip it back from that social media marketing speak and you 163 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:18.639 go, well, I have something to offer you, is not necessarily something 164 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:24.480 monetary and in in those conversations with people, I think you need to have 165 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.720 something to offer, but you don't have to have an offer. Does that 166 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.639 make sense? So there needs to be something that you can give to people 167 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.840 in that discord community that you can't do the same way somewhere else. Otherwise, 168 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:45.519 yeah, there's no purpose to it. So I guess the currency is 169 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.519 in this situation is like it's not necessarily money, but it's still is time, 170 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:52.320 it's still investment and from and I think the biggest thing that I've struggled 171 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.360 with with building a community, or trying I'm gonna say trying to, because 172 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:00.120 I just haven't with with creating daily or my you know, my podcast, 173 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.200 of my business, Um, has been time and energy just for me to 174 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:09.639 be in these places and and creating these conversations, which I asked some questions 175 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.759 about. So we can. I'm here for this. I'm here for this. 176 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.840 Yeah, I'm excited. So Um. So, okay, so we're 177 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:18.679 talking a little bit about that. We talked about building community and why it's 178 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.399 important, and I really do want to I want to jump right into discord 179 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.320 because I think it's a very interesting platform. Um, but most people, 180 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:31.159 when they think about communities, may think about facebook groups or Patreon or buy 181 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.320 me a coffee. So how is discord different? How is it? Why 182 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.159 would you prefer that over the others. Oh, so many reasons, Um, 183 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.360 I think. So I moved from a facebook group onto discord. That 184 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:50.240 was sort of my migration path and I was highly motivated to find an environment 185 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:58.279 where people wanted to engage with each other and they could more easily search for 186 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:03.720 the things we're interesting to them, and whether that's by actual text book searching 187 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.639 or just being able to scan the material. And I'm, Siriam, already 188 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.240 pointing at my discord screen because I'm very I'm very like that. What you 189 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:16.639 can't I'm pointing it, Um, but to be able to scan over subject 190 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:18.840 areas and see, Oh, here's a topic that might be interesting to me. 191 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:26.919 It is so much easier to do that in this style of group presentation. 192 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:30.759 And those of us who have been a little bit older, you know, 193 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:35.399 and we were around back in the in the bulletin board days and that 194 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:39.919 sort of thing, we we understand this left to right organization, the hierarchy 195 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.200 of the really, really broad, and then you see the subcategories and sub 196 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.720 category. This totally makes sense to me as being an old person. So 197 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:52.000 I I find this more intuitive than facebook, which is very much more of 198 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.440 a here's a piece and now you've dove and you've you, you're into it, 199 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:00.240 you've been sucked in and you can't find your way out. You can't 200 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:03.399 search for anything else, and for me a lot of the platforms have that 201 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:09.679 problem. So if you're sharing something, if you're offers a value, you 202 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.840 want people to be able to find the parts that really appeal to them or 203 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.720 they that really solve their problems more quickly. into me, discord is a 204 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:22.159 is a really great way to organize the information and organize the conversations. Yeah, 205 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.519 it reminds me of a m now I think these kids are in here 206 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.200 just body slamming each other. I'm pretty sure that's where it's escalated. But 207 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:31.960 it reminds me of like forums, like I used to be a part of 208 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:37.600 an airstopt community and so I was always into forums and searching forums about different 209 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.639 products and things like that. Um, so, yeah, okay, so 210 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:43.720 listen. So I love that part of it. I love the organization part 211 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:48.440 of it. I love the categorization and different segments. So if you want 212 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:50.480 to, let'sen jump right in and show US around. You know, maybe 213 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.799 how do you if I'm starting a discord server, like what a step one? 214 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:58.240 Do I go get a bunch of people and then convince them to help 215 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.720 me start it? Or do I just start it? Invite him, like 216 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.960 where do I go? Where do I start? You know, there's a 217 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.720 lot of ways to do this and I have been asked the question several times. 218 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:08.720 Do I need to have a community first before I have a discord server? 219 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:14.559 And my answer is always, like every smart person is, it depends. 220 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.320 It depends if your ego is such that you can't handle a little bit 221 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.200 of quiet for a while. All right, right, so, if you 222 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.639 if you are, if you're driven by algorithms and you want to see the 223 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.759 stats and the numbers and all that kind of thing, then you do want 224 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.960 to have a community first. So my origin story getting into discord itself is 225 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.919 that I mean billy when you say I have a discord server but I don't 226 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.559 know what to do with it and I really don't understand. Like I was 227 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:47.320 there eighteen months ago and I had literally a fifteen year old kid from the 228 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:51.600 Netherlands in my community who was back channeling me on a live stream, saying 229 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:55.320 you need to discord server, you need discord server, and I'm like yeah, 230 00:16:55.799 --> 00:17:00.240 what's a discord and he explained it to me and he showed it to 231 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.680 me and I went yeah, no, this looks really terribly like. Look, 232 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:08.160 I can't understand this. There's all this text and it's dark and scary 233 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:15.240 and it looks for its gamers and and like is that where spammers live? 234 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.680 And you know, depending on my Jim gaffagan voice, is that where the 235 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:26.799 spammers go? So I I resisted very hard for about three months, but 236 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:29.640 this kid kept hammering at me and I'm like, fine, set me up 237 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.440 a discord server and we'll invite a few people and see what happens. So 238 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:38.359 my expectations were very low for this. I didn't go in saying this is 239 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:42.400 going to explode my business ten times and bloom, bloom, clickbait. I 240 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:47.880 was just let's see what goes, because my face group, my facebook group, 241 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:51.839 sucked. There's no activity. I couldn't teach anybody anything because nobody was 242 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:56.160 paying attention. I couldn't get their attention because I was fighting with their you 243 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.680 know, drunken racist uncle and you know whatever other political feeds were coming through 244 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:07.279 and I couldn't get their attention right exactly. So once people started filtering in 245 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:12.799 and because I had a nice group of fans that I'd built up from Youtube. 246 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:18.160 These people just like Whoa, Oh my God, we love each other, 247 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:22.839 let's talk and be best friends, and that was all. You know 248 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.680 that that that was sort of the essential ingredient, that these people had something 249 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.440 very deep and common, they had common goals, they had something that they 250 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.920 were galvanizing around, which was the information I was giving. And then I 251 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:37.839 was there all the time. So that's one of the things that I think 252 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:45.440 people don't want to supergrock onto when they started discord servers how much they really 253 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:49.000 do need to be present and engaged. And it doesn't mean that you're writing 254 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:52.559 an essay every day and you're you know, you're you're writing a post in 255 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.319 one of the channels. It's like a blog post, like no, just 256 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:00.880 going in and doing a few emoji reactions and post a gift or two and 257 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.119 then saying hey, Yo, I love what you're doing, congratulations or whatever. 258 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.599 That can be enough that people understand, yeah, Kille's here and she's 259 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:15.039 she's actually like looking at my stuff and she's paying attention and this is cool, 260 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:21.880 and that is really what I think people want, is that personal acknowledgement, 261 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.920 that relationship, that engagement. Knowing that I'm a part of that other 262 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:29.759 person's life, this person's life, this network's life. So that's the key 263 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:34.000 for me with getting those discord servers started. So how much you in your 264 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.359 discord, billy? Oh, let's see, I think I logged in there 265 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:44.000 like three times this month and solid. So okay, so I you know, 266 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:45.599 I think that and that is probably one of the things that people don't 267 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:49.079 understand, that I still don't understand because I haven't done it. So I 268 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.960 haven't done the work to build that community. But how do you keep these 269 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.880 coins? I mean that's the biggest thing for me. Is like you going 270 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:59.839 there and you post and I don't want to be promotional and spamming, but 271 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.319 right now, if I post something, I think I posted like county, 272 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.799 build your discord and tagged everyone with, you know, with our link in 273 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:07.680 it. So it's like like, Dude, you've never come in here and 274 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.559 then you want to just sell me on and watching your show, like get 275 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:15.079 out of here. Uh. And I know it's wrong, I know it's 276 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.240 not a to do that, but I'm like, I don't know what else 277 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:19.799 to do. So do you have like any prompts or like anything that you 278 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:22.839 say, Hey, going there every day and ask this question or ask it 279 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.000 you know something, or like something. You know, like some kind of 280 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.880 help me out here, because I just I'm creating content in so many places 281 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:36.480 that to try and go, you know, create more content and hopes that 282 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:40.759 other people will talk to me is like really discouraging at times, like you 283 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:44.039 said, and maybe I'm just riding that pride wagon. So I'm a little 284 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:48.319 but hurt when people don't do what I want. I totally get it and 285 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.640 I think maybe one of the things you can do to help yourself out is 286 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:59.920 to shift your thinking from discord as another content platform to discord as a conversation 287 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:06.799 platform. So some, some people treat the discord servers another place that they 288 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.759 can post their tweets, they can post their lives, they can post these 289 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:12.640 things and then they expect people to have the same kind of conversations around it, 290 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:18.759 and that just doesn't work. You're what you want to do is just 291 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:23.279 sort of start conversations with people that you don't have to create a lot of 292 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.519 content for. So, for example, if I'm in my own discord server, 293 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:32.559 which I'll admit, is very quiet because it's small and I'm still trying 294 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:36.759 to figure out these things as well. But I'm not down on myself. 295 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:40.160 I'm not like, Oh, my own discord server sucks. But I will 296 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.440 post things like hey, I found this new BOT and it's really cool. 297 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:45.720 You know, you might want to check it out now. That's something that 298 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.720 I could put in a tweet, for example, like that's the same kind 299 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:55.680 of conversational aspect, dropping a little bit of knowledge or a little bit experience. 300 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:00.160 Or if somebody asks a question about, Oh, I'd like to have 301 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:07.079 a boat that can calculate experience based on voice channels and I'll start asking more 302 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:10.759 questions about so why do you want to do that? Like what's what's your 303 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:12.799 intention? How are you going to reward people? Like what's your exp going 304 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.400 to be all about? Are you going to give people merchandise? You're going 305 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:22.079 to give people extra membership perks? And then you're having a conversation instead of 306 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:27.640 having a post and everybody come on in sort of, you know, it's 307 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:32.319 instead of it being so disjointed. It's it's just a lot more organics. 308 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:38.640 So I guess I'm really lucky n FA jumpires, because conversations happen very easily 309 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:45.559 because everybody has questions or situations or experiences that they want to share and they 310 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:51.680 want to get input on and just having a community that's willing to ask questions 311 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:56.599 about their own experiences. Hey, I was doing this game and this coach 312 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:57.839 called me this name and I didn't know what to do. What do you 313 00:22:57.880 --> 00:23:03.440 guys think saying? You know, there you go and you've got all these 314 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.799 people helping each other out, contributing, and then I march in and say 315 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.920 here, here's, here's what I think you could do, here's a couple 316 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.359 of ideas. You know, come back and tell me how it went when 317 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:19.160 you do it, and so you've got that. It's just an ongoing relationship. 318 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:23.039 Now, would you say that to really be successful that I would need 319 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.200 a niche topic, a niche audience, because you know, I have creating 320 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.440 daily, but it's kind of I mean, you know, creating daily is 321 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:33.559 pretty, pretty bold. I mean, I'm talking to you about discord, 322 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.400 I'm talking to somebody else studios, I'm talking to somebody else about microphones. 323 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:40.480 It's like it's kind of all over the place and there's not that you know, 324 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:42.079 like with the Cam they have one, but I feel like there's a 325 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:47.599 lot of moving parts. The software is always developing. It's always people are 326 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.599 always asking questions. There's always new people coming to the Party and they need 327 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:53.759 a lot of help and I'm like, I just don't have that type of 328 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.279 audience, I don't think. And most people I'm networked with at this point 329 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:03.160 are pretty established creators. They're not really they're answering more questions than they're asking. 330 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.200 So how does how do you work in a in that type of environment? 331 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.680 What would be your foundation? Oh, it's hard, because I think 332 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.960 building anything, building any kind of community, doesn't matter where it is. 333 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:21.000 It's easier to do if you do have that focus niche. So My F 334 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:26.680 H UMPIRES is I'm helping field hockey umpires get better and those people can be 335 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:30.079 all around the world. But the niche has built itself because the people who 336 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:34.759 are attracted to my content all seemed to be at most of them seem to 337 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:40.279 be at the just sub national level of umpire. I have a ton of 338 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:44.400 what we would call sort of level twos from a variety countries, but they're 339 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:48.680 all people who are just sort of lost in the system and they don't have 340 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.119 one on one coaching and they don't have that sort of thing. So those 341 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.519 are the people that have gravitated to my content, who like the way I 342 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.880 explain things, that like, they like the kind of support I offer and 343 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.440 and that's great. So I think it takes time for all of us to 344 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.200 find what are, you know, our real niches. Whatever. That customer 345 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.640 Avatar, I hate that, that language. It is terrible. It's just 346 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:14.119 like no, my these are my people and I like them and they like 347 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:17.759 me. Boom, that's that's all I want to want to acknowledge. So 348 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:22.359 for me it's it's like, so, who who resonates the most with your 349 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:26.400 content? Who seems to want to come and they get the most value out 350 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.160 of you and they start asking the questions. It just might be a little 351 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:37.119 early in your journey for that, so I think. And the other aspect 352 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.960 of it is, what questions do you really love answering, like, what 353 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:41.960 are the ones that you're like, Oh my God, I'm so glad you 354 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:48.079 asked that here and you're you're just you're so excited about because you're passionate about 355 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.680 that material and you love teaching sorry, you love teaching it, you love 356 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.519 sharing it. You're just you can tell. I'm getting like all excited just 357 00:25:55.519 --> 00:26:00.440 thinking about getting excited and when, when you find that subject area, that 358 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.400 thing that you could talk about for two hours, that, I think, 359 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:10.920 is what you really want to niche into, because that's where your passion wise 360 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.000 and people know that, they feel it and they want to be a part 361 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.720 of it. I love that. And one thing I want to get these 362 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.559 kids, man, I love they're having fun, like I wish I was 363 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.960 having as much fun as they are listening to them now. They're great. 364 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.240 They're so great. These kids are great. Uh. But so let me 365 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.119 ask you this question. You said, you know, like's if you're a 366 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.880 niche and you're talking about subjects and you're bringing people into your discord server Um, 367 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:38.559 and so maybe we you know, and I started a discord when I 368 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:41.799 didn't really and still don't really have a big, you know, big audience. 369 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.720 I mean just quite frankly, it was like in this is still growing 370 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.480 space. But what is the way that you're attracting people? And then how 371 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.480 are you asking them to come to discord? Is it just like yeah, 372 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:53.880 anyway, I'm not gonna, I'm just gonna let you answer the question. 373 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.440 There we gore. No, no, that's good. You're you're adding more 374 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.000 things that I'm like, Oh, yeah, I need to make sure I 375 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.319 include that. Include that. So when I first started this server, I 376 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:08.640 on every single live stream, every single live stream I have. I want 377 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:14.000 to continue the conversation. Ish something like that. Come to the discord and 378 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.519 I'll be there and I talk about it on every single live stream. I 379 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:21.000 pull up the text overlay. I say, Hey, do you like this? 380 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:25.079 You'll get more of me if you come to the discord. And I 381 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.799 used to get D M questions to all of the social platforms all day and 382 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.079 when there was a big tournament on, I would just get floods of it 383 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:40.400 and I was spending so much time answering one specific question that got that had 384 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:44.400 an audience of one person and I'm like man, that is a big waste 385 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.160 of time. That is not helping me out whatsoever. I need to be 386 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.400 able to broadcast this answer to so many more people because clearly, if this 387 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:55.319 one person needs to know, there's probably a hundred empires you need to know. 388 00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.359 So let's get this out there. So now all of my d m 389 00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.960 say if you have a question of about an umpaying scenario, come to fh 390 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:06.359 DOT com, forward slash discord and I'd be happy to answer and that way 391 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:12.200 I can scale my engagement with people and I can scale my knowledge instead of 392 00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:18.880 it being so uh so singular and in trapping, and that's really helped me 393 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.680 manage my time around that. So that was a big way to do that. 394 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.359 Say, if you want that one, if you want one on one 395 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.200 attention from me, well, it won't be one on one, but coming 396 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.480 to the discord you will get my direct attention. I will be absolutely there 397 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:38.000 with you and and boom. So that's really helped. That's helped to motivate 398 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:42.160 people because I have an offer. I'm offering something in my discord you can't 399 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.920 get anywhere else, which is I'll answer your question in the discord for free. 400 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.160 You know, it's fine. The other thing that I started doing was, 401 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.440 as it took me about three months to figure out that this discord thing 402 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.319 was absolutely gonna work, it was lights out. I'm like, this is 403 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:06.279 awesome him and I switched my membership only services from what I was trying to 404 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:11.880 do on facebook in a facebook private facebook group into the discord server and it's 405 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.039 fantastic. I'm like, if you want to sign up for this workshop I 406 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:21.799 conducted in discord, if you want to be in my weekly Mentorship huddles. 407 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.160 They're in the discord. If you want to join the watch party that we're 408 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.839 going to have for all the yellow members where we talk through a game together 409 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:34.799 that's going on live, it's in the discord. I do those specific valuable 410 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:40.079 things that people are paying for in the discord and that means that they're coming 411 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:42.519 in, they're looking at other questions, they're going to the off topic and 412 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:49.480 sharing a chicken catchatory recipe and you know, it's it's bringing people into the 413 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.400 environment where I can do all these things, and that's the other thing that 414 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:57.480 I love about discord is that I can provide everything that my membership needs, 415 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:04.720 almost everything, in the same space. So it's like it's like our clubhouse 416 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.160 really, and I don't want to use clubhouse because now we're thinking clubhouse, 417 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.079 you know what I mean. So, you know, people can, you 418 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.079 know, duck into a room and be in a workshop or a direct one 419 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.839 on one meeting with me, but then they can also be, you know, 420 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.400 going into the reck room and seeing that a bunch of people are talking 421 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.519 about, I don't know, some game that they all had together last week 422 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.000 or whatever. So that helps cement those ties that they have to each other. 423 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.400 Love, strong, love that. So can you. I know we 424 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:41.519 have the capability of pulling up your discord and and kind of maybe for people 425 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.559 who don't know what discord it is at all, maybe just a quick overview. 426 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.920 But then show us how you set yours up, because I love the 427 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:52.359 thought of, you know, like this is more of doing life together versus 428 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.920 just, you know, life virtually as much as we can, versus just, 429 00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.480 Hey, let's jump in and just be all about business. But having 430 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.720 those spaces with recipes and all that fun stuff. So and talking, talking 431 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.759 about kids screaming behind. I'M gonna keep I shouldn't mention I shouldn't bring attention 432 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.319 to it, but it's I can hear it. So I know everyone else 433 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.440 kids. So I'm gonna jump to your main screen. I'm gonna let you 434 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:18.680 have control and uh, tickets for spin here, absolutely, okay. So 435 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:25.039 when I am let's see. Yep, that's sharing. Okay, did you 436 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:30.480 want me to share in e camera? You'RE gonna pull up my oh discord 437 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.720 guest. Yeah, here we go, I'll pull this up right. Here 438 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.720 we go. I'm just saying, okay, now they could see it. 439 00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:41.319 Okay, all good. Those kids are throwing you off, man, how 440 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:42.880 we set it up? Remember? I told you before, like I'll set 441 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.519 it up and I'll forget how I did it. So, yeah, yeah, 442 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.119 I mean to be fair, you're completely prescient. You knew exactly what 443 00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.599 was going to happen. So one of the things that people find when they 444 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.759 first open up the discord APP is, yes, mine is very busy. 445 00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.480 There's a lot of things going on in it, but don't get scared of 446 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:08.039 this. Uh. What I did first of all is I changed my appearance 447 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.640 mode and if you go into your user settings and you change appearance, you 448 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.720 can put discord in light mode. And when you do this, a lot 449 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.039 of people go oh, it looks so much more friendly, and that's fine. 450 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:24.119 I was in light mode for about six months and all the hardcore discorders 451 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.799 were making fun of me because if you're a real discorder, you don't use 452 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.160 light mode. But whatever, don't listen to them. Can they tell if 453 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.559 you're in light mode? No, but we talked about it. It's I'd 454 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.240 share a screenshot at something and they'd be like, Oh, growth my eyes 455 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.880 are burning. You know, they do the whole thing, which is really 456 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.640 hilarious. But it's funny how just a change of color scheme can make things 457 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.960 look more approachable for you. This looks more like another kind of APP that 458 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:55.759 you might use and when you look at the whole setup of discord Um. 459 00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:01.480 Let's see if I can bring up my whole there we go. So on 460 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:06.759 the left hand side, think of this as sort of the highest level of 461 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.039 your whole discord experience. These are all the different servers that I'm a member 462 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.920 of and I've got a bunch of D M s at the top. A 463 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.119 lot of people want my attention today, which is really cool. I'm like 464 00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:22.400 so popular. But here all my servers and I've got some folders that I've 465 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.759 got a bunch of servers stuffed into because I'm there. But within my fh 466 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.799 umpire server, this is now the active one. The next slot over in 467 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:35.039 the APP is your Channel List. Okay, so this has got all the 468 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:40.279 channels and categories that are inside a server. Now my server here, because 469 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:46.400 I've got about sixty people now, which I know isn't really I'm super proud 470 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.920 of how many people are in this, to be honest, and I love 471 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.400 the organization. But didn't start this way. It didn't start with all these 472 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:59.799 categories and all these channels because I didn't know what people wanted from me. 473 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:05.519 But it became more obvious as time went on that I needed an entire channel 474 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:12.480 called ask F H U and that this would be a thread only channel where 475 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:17.159 people could ask questions and they could get answers that I either gave them directly 476 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:24.559 or I sanctioned other people's uh answers for them. so this this builds organically 477 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:30.679 depending on what people how people are interacting, what they're talking about and all 478 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:32.559 that kind of thing. Of course, there's always gifts that are going on 479 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:38.320 all over the place and people talking. Another powerful part of discord that a 480 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.559 lot of people don't know about until they've been inside for a little while is 481 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:49.639 that you can have exclusive channels and exclusive categories for different roles. So my 482 00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.000 entire membership, you can see here I've got F H U, three, 483 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:59.639 t green, yellow and red. These are all membership levels that people pay 484 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:05.159 for to kind of access to and in there I can provide things like my 485 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.480 huddles or only for yellow members and they can come in here and only they 486 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.719 have access to this channel and when we're having a huddle they pop in and 487 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.119 all they have to do is just click on the huddles button and boom there 488 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:20.719 in the voice channel and we can start talking, uh. So that's really 489 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:25.840 helpful. And then there are areas that I have that are that people can 490 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.400 elect to be part of. So I've got a whole builder section now where 491 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.599 people who want to contribute to the FH jumpires community in a different way. 492 00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:40.320 And I actually was talking to Melanie from ritual motion yesterday about, yeah, 493 00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:45.400 about N F T S and about community building that way and how to get 494 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:50.199 people to sort of earn N F t tokens within a community. So it 495 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:54.239 gave me some ideas and I'm starting that on my server. So you can 496 00:35:54.480 --> 00:36:00.719 build what you need for your own community. What are your members asking for? 497 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:05.280 What exclusive experiences you want to provide for certain people? You can do 498 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:10.840 that with combination of roles and organization here in the servers. So it's just 499 00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:14.599 really cool. I'm kind of in love with all of it. It's a 500 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.800 little obscene how much doing ask asking me some questions now, because I'm like 501 00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.880 here, let me show you. It's like show and tell and I should 502 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.639 really be answering questions. No, no, no, you're good. I 503 00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:28.280 love that because I love to see what other people's discord servers look like and 504 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.440 how they have them organized. And one thing that you you mentioned, that 505 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:35.639 I think we should definitely bring attention to is you didn't just go in and 506 00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.079 set up all this stuff. You went in, you know, very like 507 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.039 chill, and set up maybe a few things and then built it out. 508 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.840 I think that's probably my server. I made a huge mistake because I just 509 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.519 assumed that everyone wanted all these different categories. So I'm probably gonna go in 510 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.440 there and just delete a bunch of categories. Um, because I love that 511 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:58.480 you said, Hey, I just came in, started the conversation, listen 512 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.400 to what people wanted and I build according to what they want. I think 513 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.360 that's so smart to do. It. Absolutely it, and it makes it 514 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:08.440 look I mean, there's kind of this balance to be had, because I'm 515 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.679 sure you kind of felt this way, like I want to look like I 516 00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.360 have a really elaborate server and there's all these places and all these conversations, 517 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:19.000 but if people come in and they click on all the channels and everything's empty 518 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.119 while that makes it a little bit harder. And so I started small. 519 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:28.400 I started with a small group of people who I really trusted who I knew 520 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:32.159 were going to establish the culture of this whole environment the way that I wanted 521 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:37.000 to express our community values in and that sort of thing. And that way 522 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.079 we were seeding the conversations. And when they'd say, you know what, 523 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:45.840 we really need a channel for kit, and it's kind of more of a 524 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:51.199 European UK term for the gear that we use as umpires. So now, 525 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.719 oh my goodness, there are a whole bunch of emojis. I didn't even 526 00:37:53.719 --> 00:38:00.679 see this. They surprised me all the time. My people there to so 527 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.800 fun. But you know, there's conversations going on about the radio as you 528 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.599 can use and where do you get good umpiring pants if you're a guy, 529 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.639 and where do you get good skirts, and what are your favorite whistles and 530 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.039 all the sort of thing. And when people ask for it, I was 531 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:15.360 like Bang, Yep, I'll set that up. Boom, here's a kit 532 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.320 and let's get people going in there. Uh. The other thing that's really 533 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.280 important to have our moderators right from the start, so people who are your 534 00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:28.960 fans who are like yeah, I'm willing to I get you, I get 535 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:35.119 this community, I know what you're about and I can help guide new members 536 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.960 to put their stuff in the right sections and to talk in the right way 537 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.679 and and all that kind of thing. I'm really strict in my server about 538 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:46.159 people being supportive. I don't take any garbage to talk about whether if an 539 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.599 umpire had a bad game on a, you know, a big international stage 540 00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.119 and everybody saw it, nobody gets to call them names, nobody gets to 541 00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.679 call them bad. We can talk about mistakes, but we talked about them 542 00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.960 in a very constructive manner and every rebuddy in this community knows that because my 543 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:06.639 moderators are all on side. They all understand why we do it that way. 544 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.639 They've been with me for a few years and it just it means that 545 00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:15.199 I don't have so much direct work to do and I can just experience the 546 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.719 great stuff that's happening and all the fun exchanges and and help share my knowledge, 547 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.159 which is why I'm there. Yeah, I love it and I love 548 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.199 that you said moderators from day one and kind of figuring out the rules and 549 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.760 how to play by the rules, because I think that's the biggest thing I've 550 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:32.599 seen other facebook I honestly facebook groups, for instance, like every facebook group 551 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.719 except for maybe two that I'm a part of just absolutely dumpster fires. I'm 552 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.159 like, what is happened? And they start out like really awesome, but 553 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.079 then no one is there to wringle the children and sudden they get out of 554 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.400 hand and burn the place down. And so I love that you're like Hey, 555 00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.440 get some moderators, get some people who get what you're doing. Um, 556 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.840 so, even when you're showing me this, and even though I have 557 00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:00.559 a discord server, there's a little bit of overwhelmed of why, wow, 558 00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:01.840 this looks like a whole lot of stuff going on, and I know that 559 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:07.719 you help people with this. So is this something that you one on one 560 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.239 coach? Is? Do you have a discord server where people can yeah, 561 00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.719 I mean I know you have a discord for creators, discord server. So 562 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.039 like, how how do you take us? How do we walk through the 563 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:22.199 journey with you to master our own discord server? Well, hopefully our journey 564 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:27.079 is much like many journeys with creators. Is that maybe you found me on 565 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.079 social media and you're like, Oh, here's an instagram of this, you 566 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:36.320 know weird Canadian lady who seems to love discord or here's here's her twitter feed 567 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.000 and she's talking about discording things. And then you get to know my approach 568 00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:44.320 and the way that I talked about discord, hopefully in an accessible and understandable 569 00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:49.480 way on youtube streams, and then at that point, if you're interested in 570 00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:53.000 getting things set up, we do things one on one and what I've found 571 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:57.679 interesting in my own discord for Creator servers that it actually is kind of hard 572 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:05.480 to provide the right information for people because everybody's situation is very specific. So, 573 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:09.199 for example, I just finished rolling out the e Cam live server, 574 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.760 so big. Well, you know, they wouldn't describe themselves as a big 575 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.199 company, but I think they're a big company with, you know, a 576 00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:22.280 big community presence, very strong and what they needed to have in their server 577 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.280 and the way that it was set up had to be much different than the 578 00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:32.320 way that I did Fah umpires because of the breadth of their community and the 579 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.679 type of people that we're going to be coming in what they're looking for. 580 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.400 So I had to make sure that the rules were very strong about not people 581 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.440 not self promoting, just throwing in their live streams wherever they wanted and that 582 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:52.400 sort of thing, and setting up the information categories in a way that made 583 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.960 sense for what people who want to learn about a cam? How do they 584 00:41:54.960 --> 00:42:01.440 think about the software and what questions do they have? So everybody's situation is 585 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:07.280 quite different and it's it's hard to sort of give general advice, like everybody 586 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:13.079 should install me six spot. Well, maybe, yeah, maybe. I 587 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.960 mean, Hey, it's probably a great solution for you, but it may 588 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.920 not be the perfect match for you, depending on what kind of people are 589 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.360 coming into your server and when and what kind of services you're trying to provide. 590 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:29.000 So it really does take that sort of that one on one communication. 591 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.920 I'm super happy to have conversations with anybody. And, let's face it, 592 00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.880 just like with everything and create in the Creator Universe, you can do everything 593 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.239 on your own. But do you have time to do everything on your own? 594 00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.719 You have time to learn all this stuff on your own? So you 595 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:49.880 hire a coach or a manager who can, who knows all the shortcuts, 596 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.280 who's made all the stake mistakes already that you don't have to make on your 597 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.679 own. And that's what I am for discord servers. So if you're the 598 00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:01.199 kind of person who's like, yeah, I can see my community moving into 599 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.440 this kind of space, but I just don't know where to start, and 600 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.599 awhere to go. You can just strike up a conversation, unlike fh empires. 601 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:13.000 You can dm me, I will answer questions. UND dams are open 602 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.360 and and we can see where we go from there. So, yeah, 603 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:22.000 it's it's a very individual sort of service. Now do you guys offer management 604 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.400 as well? Like, yeah, yeah, absolutely, so I can. 605 00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:30.320 I can either set up a server and just say here, after three months 606 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:34.360 I'll train your moderators up, I'll train you up as as your own server 607 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:38.719 owner and then, after three months go, I love you, by your 608 00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:43.480 best, you know, and and and and and sail off into the sunset 609 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.360 and and you know, I wish you all very well. Or I can 610 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:51.440 stay on to be a server manager to make sure that, as your servers 611 00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:54.599 organically growing, you're matching the needs of your community as it gets bigger, 612 00:43:55.199 --> 00:44:00.320 and help give you ideas and strategies of okay, here's a way you can 613 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.519 provide a discord only service that will bring more people into the community, that 614 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:07.559 you can answer their questions in here, and I can help you with those 615 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:13.039 techniques and strategies, because that's the hardest part, is figuring out how do 616 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:17.360 I deliver the value I know I have in this particular setting got you so. 617 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.559 So I know we're talking about because it's called creating daily we're talking about 618 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.719 creators using this. But in your business, are you seeing a lot of 619 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:30.840 other like business owners, small business kind of taking their conversation with their customers 620 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:32.519 a level deeper? Because we're, you know, both of us are small 621 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:37.159 business owners. Something going? Oh, there might be a consulting you know 622 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.039 something I do there, or live streaming or Amazon. You know something that 623 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:45.239 I'm working with clients and bring them into a discord server, which I really 624 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.719 haven't thought about because I'm like, I haven't mastered mastered discord. If if 625 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.800 that will ever happen, probably not, because it always changes. But Um, 626 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:57.760 have you've been seeing a lot of that as well? Yeah, absolutely, 627 00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:02.880 because people can, they can provide that again, that two way dialogue 628 00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:09.360 and that instantaneous participation and hands on experience. So, for example, Um, 629 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:15.360 I offer in the ECAM live server, I do orientations a few times 630 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.880 a week where I show the new members how to use discords. So as 631 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.519 long as they can get into the voice channel and I'm like great, you're 632 00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:27.159 here, let's do this stuff together, so I can share my screen, 633 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.360 I can show them what's going on in discord and say hey, you see 634 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.760 how I'm hovering over this thing? That's where you go to mute your microphone. 635 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.480 And you know, I can lead them step by steps through all the 636 00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.639 basics and because it's very visual in hands on, they can do stuff at 637 00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:43.519 the same time and they might have a question for me like well, Keeley, 638 00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:45.559 what's this thing up in the top corner? I'll be like, uh, 639 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.559 can you show me here? Share your screen and we can walk through 640 00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.239 it and then we can have a much more interactive learning experience where I can 641 00:45:54.280 --> 00:46:00.679 guide them through learn and do so. One of the second most powerful way 642 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.280 to learn anything. The first one is to teach it, the second one 643 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:07.639 is to do it. So we can have this learn and do environment and 644 00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:15.480 have that instantaneous conversation and it's just so much fun. So if you're if 645 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.639 you're the kind of creator WHO's like I love my people and I want to 646 00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:22.519 get to know them better and I want them to to learn more stuff for 647 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.719 me and I want to learn from them, because if I can have this 648 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.320 conversation with him, I learned so much from the Umpires I work with and 649 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:35.440 I learned so much when I'm when I'm teaching discord to e Camers, I'm 650 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.920 like wow, I didn't even know that button was there because I've just never 651 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:42.599 used it. And then suddenly I'm learning something because they're asking me a question 652 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.559 and I'm like yeah, that's a good way to look at it. So 653 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:51.519 it's just I think it's what we're aiming for as as creators with small communities, 654 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.920 and that way your people get to know you better, they trust you 655 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:59.679 even deeper or more deeply. Sorry, I'm very grammatically correct, they trust 656 00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:04.639 you more deeply, and then that's when you have people who want to be 657 00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:08.079 a part of your journey all the time, those true fans. You're going 658 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.239 from the you know, thousand people who spend a hundred dollars a year, 659 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.000 two hundred people who spend a thousand dollars a year with you, and you 660 00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:22.599 know that's that's more accessible for people like you and I than aiming for like 661 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:27.079 a thousand or ten thousand fans. That's that's hard. That's hard. Yeah, 662 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.599 I love this conversation, I love what you're doing and that's why I 663 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:32.960 did I went to the D m. So I went to the D M 664 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.199 s on discord and invited you to the show and I want to encourage people 665 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.880 to go check, you know, your server out, to go check you 666 00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.519 out. But then also you get a little um discord creators dot com slash 667 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:52.440 one zero slash tin. That's going to get people the ten must dues for 668 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.280 your new server setup. Is that right? Well, that was really good 669 00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:58.039 you pick that up, because I didn't even we didn't even share that in 670 00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.360 our pre show conversation. By the way, I have a leak magnet. 671 00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:07.360 Uh, I hate I hate the term bleed magget so badly. But if 672 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.880 if you want to try setting up your own server and just get your feet 673 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:15.880 wet, there's you can set up like a messy place, like a sandbox, 674 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:20.920 a test environment. I have two development servers where I developed for different 675 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.320 reasons and they're open to like I've invited two of my friends because I'm like, 676 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:28.519 I just I need you to sometimes be there when I'm trying to test 677 00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:31.960 certain things out. But I install and uninstalled all kinds of bots and I 678 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:36.559 see how things work and I muck around and I delete this and I garbage 679 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.480 that, and and so you can go ahead and set up your own server 680 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:45.519 and that that ten step checklist is a great way just to get things covered 681 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.639 off so you feel comfortable with the concept of okay, the first step is 682 00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:53.199 to make sure it's a little bit secure and then I go into building a 683 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:58.360 few roles and then I go into this. So that is a nice way 684 00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.639 to sort of introduce you your off to the to the say, the back 685 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:06.679 end of discord, and you know, once you're there you might find hey, 686 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.880 I can build everything I need at this point. And maybe you run 687 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:13.400 a server for a year and you get a hundred members and you've got a 688 00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:15.679 nice little core of people and you're like, you know what, I now 689 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:20.960 want to integrate some automation into this, and that's when you really want to 690 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.599 start calling in somebody else, because ain't nobody got time for that. That's 691 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.880 what I'm saying. Yeah, right, yeah, I love it. I 692 00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.320 love it. I think it's a good game plan really to get in there 693 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.840 and figure out like, and what I did too, is I went and 694 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.119 joined a bunch of servers just to figure out, like, do I even 695 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:42.920 like this, like do I personally like engaging in a discord server before I 696 00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.880 go build one and have to manage it and do all those fun things, 697 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.360 and so that was. You know, it's kind of like going and being 698 00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.239 a guest on a podcast before you start a podcast to figure out, like 699 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.760 who I like doing this. Um. So, let's see, here we 700 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.519 go. We got a question here in the chat and feel free you guys. 701 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.440 We got a coup minutes left, so feel free to do any questions. 702 00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:06.159 Is What is the link for the tin step discord process? I believe 703 00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:07.599 it's in the show notes. If not, I will put it in there. 704 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:12.559 But is discord for creators DOT COM, slash tin, and that's the 705 00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.400 number ten, one, zero. Yeah, I think that's what I did. 706 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.679 I think that's what it is somewhere. I know. What kind of 707 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.199 pretty year old did I set up for that one? I don't even know, 708 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.519 I think. Yeah, it's working in my google docs, so perfect, 709 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.079 perfect. Thank you for testing that out for me. Yeah, I 710 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.559 should have been more prepared on that aspect, but that's totally fine. Yeah, 711 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:36.039 and and going going in and finding of the service to be a part 712 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.719 of is is a really good way to start, but don't let that necessarily 713 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.719 be determinative. Right. So, I'm a member of a few servers that 714 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:52.199 I despise. They are hot trash. They are just a mess. I 715 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:57.519 hate the people. I think the moderators are terrible, but I look at 716 00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.719 that because I'm learning from that experience. But that doesn't mean that's what discord 717 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.280 is like. If your first experience in a discord server is going into a 718 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:10.000 crypto space, holy smokes, you're just that's just gonna like burn the skin 719 00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:15.079 off your face. Don't do that. Don't do that. Find a community 720 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.719 of people that you like. So let's say you are an e camera, 721 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.280 join the Ecam live discord server and go in there because you're going to know 722 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:27.119 some of the people, you know what they're about. You're gonna feel safe 723 00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.719 and comfortable and just sort of explore that environment. I was the person who 724 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:35.320 had their own discord server and I literally hadn't joined anything else. I had 725 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:38.639 no idea, but I was like this seems pretty cool, because my people 726 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:44.119 and my vision of what kind of culture I wanted to have was so strong. 727 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.159 I knew I could build a great environment. I knew that the server 728 00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:51.400 was going to be fun because I was going to make it that way, 729 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.360 damn it. So, yeah, you guys are gonna love it here. 730 00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.920 You guys are gonna love it or leave. There's a door. Excell button. 731 00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.400 Well, I love this, I love your energy, I love everything 732 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.199 you're doing in the discord for a cam is where we connected and H and 733 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.800 that's what and really, you know, as a consumer of well, I 734 00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.360 guess, the customer of e Cam, I've literally stayed with a cam through 735 00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:22.920 some crucial moments and frustrations with the software, but I've stayed for the community. 736 00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:27.119 So there's Times that my eyes were looking at different softwares, but I'm 737 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.400 like, man, I just love Doc Rock, I love, you know, 738 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.519 all these people in this community and I can I just gotta stay, 739 00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:37.719 you know, and I'll figure out the tech problem, because people do business 740 00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:39.639 with people and they want to build these communities and so, Um, I 741 00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:43.679 think there's a lot to be learned and this is just like the ice the 742 00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.079 tip of the iceberg, I feel like. I mean, and you've walked 743 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.519 us through some amazing stuff. You know some amazing tips, but I want 744 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.119 to encourage people to to follow you, chase you around the Internet and learn 745 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.719 all they can from you and and then hire her, hire her as a 746 00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.400 coach and and let her just take you from zero to xt Um, all 747 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:04.360 the way to the finish lines. So I really appreciate you being on the 748 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.039 show and is I'll do the old interview. Is there any last thoughts that 749 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:13.599 I didn't set you up to say? All I can say is at one 750 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:19.960 point somebody told you about facebook and you open an account and you said, 751 00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:24.119 I have no idea what this means. I cannot understand a single thing. 752 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:30.360 But you know what, we're all on facebook. This is just another step 753 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.760 on that journey. We are all capable of learning this. This is not 754 00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:38.079 magic, this is not rocket surgery. You can do this and if it's 755 00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:42.880 the right fit for you, it can be an incredible way to build your 756 00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:47.079 creation community. So don't be afraid. Give me a call, give other 757 00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:51.840 people a call, do anything, but just don't let this opportunity pass you 758 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:55.679 by. Love it kill you. Well, high five long distance. Speaking 759 00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:59.599 of loan, this is where in the world are you? You mentioned Canada, 760 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.880 mentioned the Young K you've mentioned a few places. So I feel like 761 00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.400 I'm just a global citizen right now. But yes, I've been hiding in 762 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:14.800 the during the pandemic in Calgary, Canada. That's nice living. I usually 763 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:17.239 do a lot of traveling, but not in the last three years, so 764 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:21.840 maybe that will change. Yeah, we're all we're all on the tarmact just 765 00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:24.480 waiting to do some stuff. So hopefully, hopefully, we can get back 766 00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.920 to it. Well, I really appreciate you being on the show. I'll 767 00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.159 definitely have you back again and because I know you're much more than just a 768 00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:36.320 discord expert. So there's a lot of fun conversations that we can have and 769 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:37.760 and go down that route. So I really appreciate you being on. Thank 770 00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.920 you so much. How did last thank you all right. Thank you so 771 00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.840 much. Alright, everyone, that is it. I hope you got something 772 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.599 from this. I know I got fired up to get back into my discord 773 00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:52.079 server and figure that out and I don't have a way to promote the league. 774 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.480 I think it's in the show notes because I I just blindly add a 775 00:54:55.519 --> 00:55:00.239 copy paste every link in my world and maybe I should just change at the 776 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:04.079 discord. But go to discord becoming part of my discord server and uh, 777 00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:07.159 and I'm gonna go in there and cleaning up. I'm gonna simplify it and 778 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:08.360 then you guys can tell me what you want to talk about. We can 779 00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:13.360 create categories around it. Um. So I really appreciate you watching the show 780 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.159 or listening to the show. Be sure to hit that subscribe button, like 781 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.679 button, share button, all the buttons, all the things to do, 782 00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.960 all the whatever's to to promote this episode. That's what we want. That's 783 00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:22.559 what I wanted you to do, all right, so go do it, 784 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:28.000 um, but then also go hit the record button, create amazing content and, 785 00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.920 like I always say, somebody out there is just waiting to hear you 786 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:35.079 give down permission to live out their dream, to live out their destiny, 787 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:38.039 and that's the reason why we do everything we do is to help you get 788 00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:42.000 the confidence to continue to hit the record button and put your message out there, 789 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:44.679 because it changes lives. So I really appreciate you watching and we'll see 790 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.159 you Tuesday. I get my friend Anthony Disney coming on. He was able 791 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.880 to scale his youtube channel and was able to monetize it within a six month 792 00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:57.639 period, so subscribers in six months and also making money off of it. 793 00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.599 So we're gonna break down how he did that and I really appreciate everyone for 794 00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:05.519 jumping in real quick everybody in the chat. I didn't want to interrupt the 795 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:10.599 conversation that many times, but Bez said, Cabe, really appreciate you jumping 796 00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:15.079 in and saying hello. Um, you guys are awesome. Your Rock, 797 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:34.719 and we'll see in the next episode.