May 4, 2022

Creator Roundtable: Podcast/Live Show Formats & Segments

Creator Roundtable: Podcast/Live Show Formats & Segments

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.519 Here's some really like you're listening to creating daily. There's something wrong with you. 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.519 You know that because you and I are like a mullets. It is 3 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:13.080 the is the business. He's the front part of the haircut and then I'm 4 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:16.519 the party in the back. I think they're hilarious. Speaks to me. 5 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:24.559 It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. Welcome to another episode of creating daily. 6 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:29.000 I'm your host, Billy Thorpe. In today is made the fourth and 7 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:34.280 unfortunately there's I mean I'm gonna say unfortunately people are watching, but I guess 8 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.719 I'll go ahead and minute. I've never seen this star wars movie. I 9 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:40.200 admitted them Monday when Chris Vagilo was on the show. So go ahead, 10 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:46.200 throw all your hate messages right there near the chat closest to you, and 11 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:48.039 there, then, there you go. That's it. We can get that 12 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:51.039 over with. Okay, okay, we're just pulled off to the SCAB, 13 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:55.119 or whatever you call it. SCAB is maybe a weird word, but anyway, 14 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.399 welcome to creating daily. Got A great show lined up for you and 15 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:02.960 I hope that you will get involved either in the chat over here on clubhouse. 16 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:04.480 I get this nice little if you're watching the video gat it's Nice little 17 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:10.040 clubhouse window all prepared for you, kind of doing this whole old school way. 18 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.640 So I see Dominic and I handra said brand, James, drue, 19 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.959 Anthony, all those people. Just know if you come up on the stage 20 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:23.239 during clubhouse that you are being recorded in broadcasted to to everywhere. So come 21 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.719 come check that out, or you can join me on guild. You can 22 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.120 go to ritual motioncom or click the link if you're in clubhouse. If you 23 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:34.239 want to see the video aspect of this and join on their platform, you'd 24 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.359 head over to Bullhorn I fm. GET THEIR APP. You can call in, 25 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.920 you can chat over there as well, and I have all these little 26 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.560 chats set up so we can be able to see them. Well, that 27 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:48.200 one's not working too great, but anyway, I'll fix that as we get 28 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.000 into it. But yeah, be a part of the show, because today's 29 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.959 show we're going to be talking about segments and formats of podcasts and live shows 30 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.840 and really just kind of have fun Creator Round Table. So if you want 31 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.480 to come on the stage on clubhouse, feel free to do that. And 32 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:04.599 if there's any of my friends there, followed by speakers, that would like 33 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.120 to moderate, feel free to let me know and I will. I'll green 34 00:02:07.199 --> 00:02:09.879 being you and and maybe you can help me bring some people up on the 35 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:13.919 stage as well. But before we get into it, as always, we 36 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.159 got a couple of segments lined up for you, so let's go ahead and 37 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:22.560 jump in there. What it's still time with creating daily all right. So 38 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.719 this first tool is actually about live streaming and it makes my life easier to 39 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:30.000 create all these different segments with, and that is Ecam live. Now this 40 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:35.479 is much different than stream yard or bull horn or restream or guild. This 41 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.400 is actually a software on your computer, so it's a desktop software that allows 42 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:44.280 you to create all these different scenes and really customize everything. So I get 43 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.680 a lot of questions, primarily like billy, how in the world you make 44 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:51.439 your things so complicated or why, or whatever it's with ECAM. Okay, 45 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:53.159 it's not. It's not magic. It's a little bit of a learning curve. 46 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:58.520 I think it's easier than OBS and if you're a maci user, I 47 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.319 really like it because there's a hundred percent focus on Mac users and what that 48 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:05.159 looks like for us. So yeah, I kind of like it. I 49 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:08.240 like that exclusivity that they actually have with it. But keep in mind all 50 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:13.280 these different tools, guild, bowlhorn, restream, stream yard, they all 51 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:16.840 have different things that they do in different use cases and I actually use quite 52 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:20.560 a bit of them for different projects. But there you go. There is 53 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:25.240 my tool for today. Now let's jump over and highlight a creator. Creator 54 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:31.599 highlights new cooking necessary and the assembly required. He's got to be fun, 55 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:37.479 all right. Today's creater highlight is once again brought to you by OWL APP. 56 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:42.639 That is Oh wwll O doublew l, and you can use the code 57 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.560 bet six, one, four, five, hundred and three for early access 58 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.360 and a ten dollar sign up bonus. So if you're a pro if you're 59 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.560 an expert and you want to get paid, if you want to charge those 60 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:55.120 brain pickers that come around every now and again and go hey, yeah, 61 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:58.080 well, you got five minutes, I could pick your brain, and then 62 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:00.599 you spend forty five minutes on the phone, then they go. They make 63 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:01.639 a Gob of money in the call. You back and back, Ay, 64 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.719 Bro, a bit tone know money with with the Info you gave me, 65 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:08.560 and then you're like that's great, I didn't make any money. So this 66 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.319 way you can't make money. Or if you're on the other side of it 67 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:15.240 and you're getting ready to do a creative project or a live stream or a 68 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.839 business deal or need to count it. You need information, jump on this 69 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:21.800 APP, call somebody who cares and they will don't give you the information you 70 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:26.560 need. So go download that and what's getting use that code and all these 71 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:30.160 links, by the way, or on my website, creating daily dot live 72 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:35.759 live or live show or watch, watch, that's what it is anyway. 73 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:40.639 Good to creating daily dot live and just tap on the watch live and I 74 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:44.879 got all these important links there, plus some other fun stuff. All right, 75 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:46.959 so now let's jump into Oh, the creator highlight. What am I 76 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.199 talking about? What I missed it? I got to play the thing again 77 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:56.279 creator highlights, because I didn't highlight the Creator sery and new assembly required cheese. 78 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:00.199 All Right, here we go. The stream show is who I want 79 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:02.160 to highlight. If you guys are watching, maybe priority saw it on the 80 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:08.480 screen, but the stream show with with Brent or brant and strict. They 81 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.959 come on live every Sunday at seven PM eastern time. Super good show. 82 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:17.199 They have over forty years experience in media production and so it is a streaming 83 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:23.439 production review show. Hosted by DJ strict and Brent Collins, really a great 84 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.279 show. So I want to highlight those guys. All right now I'm so 85 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.040 excited I keep skipping segments because I want to bring on some people up to 86 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.319 the stage on clubhouse, if you will, or if you want to jump 87 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.560 into jump into guild, let me know. Shoot me a little message there 88 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.879 in the chat and say hey, I want to, I'm want to come 89 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.959 in and be a part of the show, because we're going to talk about 90 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.920 segments, we're going to talk about formats of shows, and I me a 91 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.680 segments and format might be the same thing. I'm not a hundred percent sure. 92 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.920 In my mind is a little different. I'm totally up for learning some 93 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:57.040 stuff, but let's set it up first. So if I'm thinking of a 94 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.279 format of a show, here we go, my friends in meadows. Finally, 95 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.600 this cannot be a creator round table if no one's on the table but 96 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.319 me. So what's UPSETON? How's it going in what's up, billy? 97 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:10.240 I'm doing gray man, how are you? You feeling all right? I 98 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.319 know you're under the weather. Be Good now. Yeah, I'm feeling better. 99 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.439 I'm not a hundred percent yet, but getting better. And each and 100 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.000 every day, and that's all the matters right now. Yeah, man, 101 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:21.439 that's awesome. Well, I got you here, gets you on the screen, 102 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:25.480 it gets you pulled up see all of our friends in the audience. 103 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.720 So, sid it's now a I don't know, like a line table. 104 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.879 We're not quite round yet, so it's just a line between you and I. 105 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:38.319 But you do a podcast. Are You segmenting that podcast? Do you 106 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:41.040 have any kind of format where you just kind of get on there Willie Nilly 107 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:46.319 and figured it out as you go? So I think it's a great question 108 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:50.199 and I think there is a dit. There is a difference between a format 109 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:58.120 and a segment. In one of my shows the format is conversational and there 110 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:03.040 are no segments and we literally start off with a basic idea of what the 111 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:06.959 conversation is going to be like and then we have a conversation. That's, 112 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:12.519 to me a format right now a segment. In my second show, the 113 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:18.439 amazing entrepreneurs club, we have segments in that show where we the first segment 114 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:24.839 is we interduce the formats conversational, but the first segment is an introduction of 115 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:30.759 the entrepreneur. The second segment is them providing tips to up other entrepreneurs and 116 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:35.040 then the third segment is them. I think it's actually four segments. The 117 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:40.600 third segment is them. I'm sharing their insights that would help other entrepreneurs, 118 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:44.240 and in the fourth one is having a little bit of fun and answering some 119 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:49.360 questions. So that one segmented, but still the format is conversation. Okay, 120 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:54.079 cool. So I'm glad that we agree on that because that's how I 121 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.360 was thinking about it in my mind as well. Is Format is kind of 122 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.399 like the thirtyzero foot view. You know, what is this show? Is 123 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.839 a solo as monolog is a CO hosted as a round table, is a 124 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:11.279 storytelling, you know, all these types of is interview style, and then 125 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.519 segments were kind of like a level deeper in my mind. So it's kind 126 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:18.560 of sounds like that's what you're saying as well, like from your thought processes. 127 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.000 Yeah, absolutely, and I have a friend that has a podcast that 128 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:30.560 she segments hers, but she calls them chapters and she calls it out in 129 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.720 the in the episode. She goes, you know, she sets up the 130 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.559 episode and then she says, okay, and chapter one we're going to talk 131 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.240 about this. In Chapter Two we're going to talk about this and then chapter 132 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.039 three, we're going to talk about this. Now. She spends months preparing 133 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:48.519 for these. These are very well edited and they're bringing in different voices from 134 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:54.080 different zoom meetings and things of that nature. So they're curated and it tells 135 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.720 the story and it's hitting on a point. But I like the fact I 136 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:01.120 like the terminology chapters. Okay, Gotcha. Yeah, that's how I like 137 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.120 that too, and I think you know, when you're doing like youtube or 138 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.720 instagram or not, Youtuber, instagram on. Go to Youtube or Vinmeo, 139 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.919 they actually have a way for you to set up chapters so you can actually 140 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.559 time for you know, frame it out with the time, the time code 141 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:22.480 or whatever and do that. So sorry, I was little bit distracted here. 142 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.240 We'll see. Michael sterning was telling me there's some audio issues, so 143 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.039 I will deal with those actually, while I introduce my friend Brent from one 144 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:31.240 sheet, and by the way, if you don't have one sheet, you 145 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.559 need to check it out. Go to one sheet, dot pro Billy Thorpe. 146 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:41.240 That is the number one sheet spelled out. Do Pro Billy Thorpe in 147 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.480 no matter what said Sid says, do not go to his go to mind 148 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.919 only because it is a competition. I don't care what they say. But 149 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.840 anyway, what's up brand good to see you man. Hey Billy, I 150 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.399 just wanted to jump in. I actually might can contribute to this round table. 151 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.279 It's dated, so you got slap my wrist if I do say anything. 152 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:03.039 That's you know, shows my early podcasting days. We used to experimental 153 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.240 lot and I love what you guys are talking about. As far as I 154 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.720 a format versus the segments, I guess maybe I might have thought of the 155 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:16.240 format sort of including the outline a little bit, but spot on and yeah, 156 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:18.840 I love it. I love the conversation. Hopefully we can learn some 157 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:20.440 new tips and tricks for creating a show. I'd love to get back in 158 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.639 the saddle one day. That'd be cool, man. Come on over, 159 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.919 dude, it'll be yeah, come come back on over to the to the 160 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.759 dark side to the podcast. I shouldn't say the dark side of you know, 161 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:35.240 made us another star wars thing. Anyway. So well, James Ticks 162 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.840 is jumping in over here on the other the on Youtube. So what's up, 163 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.320 James? I'm going to be on James Show on Thursday, but anyway, 164 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:43.679 go ahead, Britt I just gotta say, like my old show, 165 00:10:45.200 --> 00:17:03.960 we stumbled into it. We'll get the or neither. I'm sorry, reframe 166 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.519 the question to re ask the questionability. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. 167 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:08.480 That was good because I was kind of I was leading with the thought there, 168 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.119 but I'm like, you know what, let me ask the question then 169 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.000 I'll share what we glean. The Geek does. So are you changing up 170 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:19.839 your show format or show segments at all or you keeping it the same for 171 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:26.119 like multiple episodes? Are you experimenting with that at all? So I keep 172 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:32.799 so the amazing entpreneurs club has two different formats. Okay, so you get 173 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:38.839 the first format, that is me interviewing somebody and the segments in that don't 174 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:44.759 change and that episode, those episodes run the first and the third week. 175 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:48.359 The second in the fourth weeks, is a completely different format, which is 176 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.039 actually a ten to win format, is what I call it, which is 177 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:59.920 a ten minute solo episode sharing tips at insights that help other entrepreneurs. Sometimes 178 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:02.160 Times they're brought to you by me, most of them are by me, 179 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.359 and then sometimes they're brought by other people or other podcasters sharing their insight. 180 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:11.319 So that show has two different formats and I am not changing them at this 181 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.119 time. Okay, Gotcha. That's pretty awesome, Britt how about you guys? 182 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.480 When you're doing digital dad's, I feel like this is a here we 183 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.839 go, angeleas can come up. This can be fun. What's that? 184 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.279 Rattro? Just Retro, old school. Yeah, your old schools. Go 185 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:27.559 back in your old school brain. Did you? Did you guys, switch 186 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:30.200 up segments? Did you replace segments, all that kind of stuff? Would 187 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.039 you keep it the same the whole time you had it? Well, like 188 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:37.240 I said, we were terrible when we started. So we tinkered a lot, 189 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.400 which was great in some cases, like, for example, we just 190 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.720 decided, hey, we should bring the audience on the show. I don't 191 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.839 care who you are, your dad listening to the show, getting our facebook 192 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:49.400 group and come on the show, and that worked out amazingly. In some 193 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.880 cases, some of them were like Polish podcasters, for example Tom Tate. 194 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.000 I met him through digital dads, which is crazy because I guess he's in 195 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.200 the podcasting world. But so he was great because he knew his way around 196 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:02.559 the MIC. But then I had people that was like pulling teeth and we 197 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.640 just threw like five guys plus two hosts in together that format didn't work as 198 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.519 you could make. No Way. Yeah, yeah, no way, because 199 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.720 we got to act. It's like this, right, we got to actually 200 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.640 engage with the people that were listening rather than it just being like talking to 201 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.680 each other the whole time. But yeah, we experimented a lot. We 202 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.640 did a lot of different things. We did a radio lab style episode about 203 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:30.119 the talk, which was really ambitious. Yeah, we tink. You know, 204 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.920 Donnian's, I think, was along for the ride. They gave us 205 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:36.480 a lot of feedbacks. That goodness made that facebook group and they kind of 206 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.200 told us what they liked them what they did. But we did try to 207 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:44.839 find a path to where the beginning sounded roughly the same. The book ends, 208 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.720 part of it sounded the same. My daughter did this boom chickaboom think 209 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:48.960 at the like, you know. So, so it felt like the same 210 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.759 episode, but we definitely played with it, for sure. Okay, yeah, 211 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.920 man, I like that so and I think that's a good idea to 212 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.319 play with it, see what works, see what your audience resonates with, 213 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.759 try different stuff and I guess it depends on the style show. I guess 214 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.039 it depends on, you know, like what your topic, you're niche maybe. 215 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.480 I mean maybe your niche is like super serious and it's, you know, 216 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:14.200 break can't play the singer while talking about hacking somebody up in a murder 217 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.480 crime podcast. But I do think that's pretty cool to try it and that's 218 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:21.880 what I'm that's what I'm really you know, it's really curious about this room. 219 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.680 Will selfishly started this room on clubhouse and get or this live show, 220 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:29.799 I guess, this Creator Round Table, because I am curious to see, 221 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:33.359 like what do people resonate with the most? What do they enjoy listening to? 222 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:36.519 What kind of segments do they like? In Glenn the Geek over at 223 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:40.279 the Horse Radio Network, I was listening to a podcast where he was on 224 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:47.960 it and he was basically saying that he will try something, he'll do something 225 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.640 like one week or maybe two weeks in a row, and then oftentimes, 226 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:55.599 like if it's not a good segment, you know, one either they recognize 227 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:57.240 it's not a good segment or two, like they just forget about it there. 228 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:00.200 Oh yeah, we just forgot about that segment where we did whatever. 229 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.440 They just went and bring it back because if it was you know, if 230 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.839 they forgot about it, as the host and probably the audience didn't remember either. 231 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.480 So I think this cool, man. I think it's leans for a 232 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:14.720 lot of creativity to change it up and all that kind of stuff. So 233 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:17.200 so, Sid real quick, while we're in clubhouse, man, if I 234 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:18.519 know you're I know you're not feeling well. So if anybody else wants to 235 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.319 help me out, bring some people up, but I'm going to bring dominic 236 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.400 up here as well, but I want to pass the mic over to my 237 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:32.799 friend Angelique. She's the sheet, is the rock star slayer of like stingers 238 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:34.599 and segments and all that kind of stuff. So, Angelie, cow are 239 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:41.240 you? It's been a minute since we've chatted and I don't hear you. 240 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:45.599 So I'm trying to I don't. I don't hear you. So if you're 241 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.119 talking, maybe jump out of the room and jump back in, since that'll 242 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:53.200 work. Is anybody else hear her when she came off Mike, I did 243 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:57.359 not hear her. No, all right, Angelique, so maybe Michael can 244 00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.440 help you trouble shoot there in the back chat. I'll pass the mic over 245 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.440 to Dominique real quick. What's up, Dominique House? It going? Man, 246 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.559 I'm living a dream, brother. I can't complain. I just wanted 247 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:14.039 to say I really love this topic because it really reminds me of my personal 248 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:18.880 journey as a podcast or when I first started with my very first show back 249 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.440 in two thousand and sixteen, it was just monolog and now it's because I 250 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.680 couldn't get guests on my show. And then, you know, switch from 251 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:30.960 monolog to like the interview style, conversation style, if you will. But 252 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:38.640 last year I started experimenting with the nonfiction storytelling the format, and if you're 253 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:42.599 not familiar with that, format is kind of like INMPR, this American life 254 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:48.480 type of format where it's like interviews mixed in with like your voiceover and stuff 255 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.160 like that, and those type of podcast take all very long time to create 256 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.839 and edit and stuff like that. But the fun, but the crazy thing 257 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:03.240 is as much work is it is with editing. I've never loved podcasting more 258 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.240 than I do right now. It's like it's a lot of hard work. 259 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.079 It's extremely tedious, but I don't even want to create other type of podcast 260 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:14.759 except them, because, you know, you get the voiceover, you get 261 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.000 the interview, you get the sound effects, you get the music and it's 262 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:22.279 like this big production and it's been really cool to do so those are the 263 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.920 only type of podcast I create now and it takes me about three weeks to 264 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.200 do one episode from research, touting and all that stuff. Oh yeah, 265 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.200 about three weeks to do one episode, because it's just me, right. 266 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.839 Know, these type of podcasts, you know you have like a team of 267 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.240 like five to ten people, right, you know, you you listen to 268 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.119 like the history channels podcast and they're saying thank you to this story editor, 269 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.039 this writer and this, that and the other. It's all just me. 270 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.839 And so it takes me about three weeks of each episode, but I wouldn't 271 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.680 change it for anything in the world. It's making me love podcasting even more. 272 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.839 I've done speaking. It's awesome. And so you're sitting out of all 273 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.680 the show types you've done, which we can talk about those here in a 274 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.079 minute. You know, pros and cons of each. I think that would 275 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:10.880 be an interesting perspective. But this, the storytelling format, is like your 276 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.839 favorite that you've done of all these, all these styles, all these formats. 277 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.920 Absolutely, because as cool allows me to be extremely creative, right, 278 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.960 like from like telling your story to scorn and stuff like that. So it's 279 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.200 really cool, man. That's cool. That's awesome. That's kind of why 280 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:29.039 I love the the live stream aspect to like I get to you know, 281 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.160 it's like getting on social audios. Fun. Sitting in front of one camera's 282 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.920 kind of fun, but when I really get to put the whole show together 283 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:38.519 and make you know, like right now, like if you guys click on 284 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.880 the link on the clubhouse room that's linked up above, you'll go over to 285 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.920 guild and you know, see over on guild what I've put together and you'll 286 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.480 see your own little faces and stuff like that. So it's a lot of 287 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.559 fun. So a Brent, go ahead, man, that's so you come 288 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:53.559 off Mike there. Yeah, I just wanted to jump in and give you 289 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:59.480 props, Domini, because we tried that ambitiously for one episode, one one 290 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:03.599 single episode. Loved it. Agree with everything you said. Only the effort 291 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:06.720 was weeks. For us it was me and a cohost. So man in, 292 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.960 Kudos to you, because putting that kind of contact out is just fantastic 293 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.839 for the listener. So love that you're doing that. Yeah, yes, 294 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.599 it's definitely a label of Love. Is definitely a label, though, but 295 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:21.680 I appreciate that. Thank you great, awesome. Well, in real quick 296 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.279 and Jelika saw her. She came back in. She sent a little backchat. 297 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.200 They're talking about club decks off. If you want to give it a 298 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.559 go again, Angelique would love to hear thoughts on this. And Yeah, 299 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.279 we'll keep around table, and I think we finally get around table. So 300 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.160 I really appreciate all of you awesome creators jumping on here. So, Michael, 301 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.480 what's up, my man, it's been a minute. Hello, billy, 302 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.920 what's up? All Right? Yeah, this is a great conversation. 303 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:48.480 I've been in broadcasting since I started in college in one thousand nine hundred and 304 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.000 ninety eight, so I have a lot of experience with like setting up different 305 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:56.079 segmenting of programs and preproduction planning and so on. So I find this really 306 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.319 interesting and I would just my first thought is, you know, whatever you're 307 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.839 going to do, try to make things as easy on yourself, preproduction wise, 308 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.839 so that you've got the framework, you've got the timing you want. 309 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.400 You know, however, you want things to flow so that you're more set 310 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.160 up for success when you actually do produce the content. But that's all I 311 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.680 have to say for right now. But this is a great room. Thanks. 312 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.359 Yeah, man. Well, thanks for jumping and thanks for sharing that 313 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.160 too. But and I think you know, for me anyway, like, 314 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:29.960 especially doing a show every single day like I am, it really brings like 315 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.079 it really like gives me confidence, I guess, because I can't I know 316 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.160 what I'm planning for. I know you know kind of the flow I want 317 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.200 to go for, I know you know the segments. I need information for 318 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:42.039 a content, for that kind of thing, and so it's a lot of 319 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:45.160 fun to you know, put that together, kind of have that run a 320 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.319 show in place and then, you know, once again, kind of break 321 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.279 that up a little bit. So, yeah, this has been and you 322 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:53.720 know I'm kind of come from one perspective, but we do that in our 323 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:59.319 fishing podcast to like we have we have a you know opening, there's a 324 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:03.200 little bit of answer, but then we have a segment, a segment spot 325 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.119 on their or a sponsor spot on their sponsor segment, and then we have 326 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.319 the main content, main interview, and then we also have like a billy's 327 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.880 best takeaway, because I'm kind of the non fisherman of the podcast, or 328 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.240 you know, that's kind of the character I play it. So it's like 329 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:19.519 okay, billy, were you paying attention? All right, what was your 330 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.400 best takeaway? And a man for our audience. It's been a lot of 331 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.319 fun for them to be a part of that as well. So super cool. 332 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.000 And then now I want to pass the MICA. Will keep going over, 333 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.119 still round table. This is great. So I'll pass the mic over 334 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:38.559 to Angelik really quickly. She had a audio troublesome to make sure we hear 335 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:42.200 her thoughts on the subject. So let's go ahead and try again. Angelik. 336 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.200 Okay, can you hear me now? Her loud and clear. This 337 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.759 is awesome. Great. Well, I wanted to come up here to defend 338 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.279 stingers to sid but he's gone. Hope you feel s yeah, it is 339 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.519 filling on the weather. So he sent me a message like Hey, I'm 340 00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.440 going to get take a nap. So he's Ye. So yeah, there 341 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.720 you go. We could have a NAP Stinger for him next time. But 342 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.160 you know what, this is replays and I could probably just send him the 343 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.519 audio file afterward to hear your thoughts. So please share them. To said, 344 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.000 this is specifically just for you. Said, I think that stingers do 345 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.279 do one of one of two things really well. I think it definitely is 346 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.640 a pattern interrupt and it changes up the energy, but it also sets the 347 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:30.960 tone and but I do think that the concept of bringing in and having the 348 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:37.759 I think shaping, shaping the experience with audio is really important. So that's 349 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.400 what I use them for. It's more of like this is going to be 350 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.960 fun, versus me just hoping that it's fun. Right, I'm already kind 351 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.960 of setting the tone, like the boots and cats, for instance. People 352 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.240 really seem to like that one in particular, and I think it was just 353 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.079 kind of my own ability. It was like an outlet for me to just 354 00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:02.759 be able to do something creative in a different way than just then just speaking. 355 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.440 There it is, I got it out. Love that. Yeah, 356 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.759 that's a that's good to set yourself well, I you know, I'm trying 357 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.000 to collect my thoughts here, but I think that is part of it. 358 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:18.119 Is sometimes as podcasters, sometimes as live streamers. I know as a live 359 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.160 streamer, like sometimes I would just get on facebook, live or wherever and 360 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.640 like okay, cool, I hope people show up, I hope it's fun. 361 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.440 I don't have a plan, I don't have a format, there's no 362 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.920 expectation and it would just wasn't it was never fun, it was never well 363 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.400 put together. I had no idea what I was ever talking about, no 364 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.319 one ever watched and then when I've finally started to, you know, understand, 365 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.079 and I don't know why I didn't understand this earlier as a solo creator, 366 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.839 because as a creator on a team, you know, I worked in 367 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:48.400 the TV space for a while and so it was all, you know, 368 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.480 very heavy, segmented and planned out and very detailed and you know all those 369 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.599 kinds of things. So yeah, that's a plan to be successful, plan 370 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.759 for it to be fun. Is Good thought there. So, Michaelss you, 371 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.400 yeah, and I would say billy plan, the the the energy that 372 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:08.000 you want for your program like, you know, if you want it to 373 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.519 be a high energy program then get people with high energy stingers and with high 374 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.119 energy music and things like that. If it's something where it's a little bit 375 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.400 more intimate, you're going to get into the microphone, then think about how 376 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.839 the energy of that program could flow depending on what content you're trying to get 377 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.960 in there. And so yeah, Angelique, your stingers are great because they 378 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.880 they've fit you and your energy and what you're trying to do for your program 379 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.720 and so they're wonderful. So yeah, I'm not going to ever dump on 380 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.200 stingers, just make sure they fit the energy you're trying to do for your 381 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.400 program that's good. That's good, till, and I do think that super 382 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.640 good to think that's Impletad, though it does match my energy because they're made 383 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.079 by me, right, so I didn't just go pick some and then put 384 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.440 them, like slap them into my show. And I know that not everybody 385 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.039 could probably feel that they could make them, but I think they could. 386 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.119 Actually, I just made mine and garage band and some of them are, 387 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.920 you know, ten seconds, three seconds. They're not, they're not long, 388 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:10.680 they're not super complicated. It's just me being creative and also because I 389 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.839 know how to segue into the next thing right, I have this kind of 390 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.039 not only is that a pattern interrupt, but it also kind of like closes 391 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.240 off one thing and starts another thing, no different than people will watch ten 392 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.839 one minute videos before they'll watch one ten minute video, right, and essentially 393 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.240 you're just chopping up your your cast, your radio show, your shit, 394 00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.400 whatever it is that you're doing, into shorter segments that way. Yeah, 395 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.640 yeah, I love that. That's a great tip. And producer, Jimmy, 396 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.200 don't want to leave you out. I know you're hanging out. I 397 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.599 know you've been dealing with a little bit of headache stuff, so I want 398 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.440 to give you an opportunity to come off Mike and I know you have plenty 399 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.799 of thoughts about this because you have a podcast network. So thanks. Yeah, 400 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.640 I just I'm fresh off of my nap, so I'm feeling a little 401 00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.839 bit better. I appreciate it. Yeah, first of all, I agree 402 00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:02.759 with everything that Angeley because laid down. I think it's I love me some 403 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.519 stingers right, but also I agree with what Michael Said, because I do 404 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:12.279 definitely have to match the tone. I've heard some some radio shows and podcasts 405 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.359 where the Stinger takes me completely out of where I was. Now, sometimes 406 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.359 that's the point of the Stinger, is to take you out of where you 407 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.519 are so you can start into where your they need you to go. But 408 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.400 there are times when it's nothing is changed. It just seems like there's a 409 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.039 random Stinger and then the conversation continues. I'm like, what was what was 410 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.680 that for now that was my early times and I've learned since and that a 411 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:40.839 lot of times that's for dynamic add insertion. But but yeah, but for 412 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.640 me and I don't I don't deal with that. HAVE AD insertion. So 413 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.119 I don't have any of that, but it always, it always seems staring. 414 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.119 I love me some stingers, though, because they really can be used 415 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:59.200 to set that the soundscape of your program and I'll use all use two examples. 416 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.160 One is Florida Man News. Now Florida Man News. We were talking 417 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:07.559 about the show and we decided, you know, obviously the content pretty much 418 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.960 rights itself, right, like we don't have to go make up stories. 419 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:15.440 They're great normal stories. Yeah, it's so. What we decided was he 420 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.359 was going to deadpan his delivery and make the jokes just be funny and lands 421 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.880 kind of Anchorman Style and so and then we're like, okay, well, 422 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.160 let's make it a full on like a news program. So we decided to 423 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:36.079 have stingers that were very obnoxiously newsy and it fits in so well and it 424 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.480 does what I just to Angeli's point, it does break it up. It 425 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.279 actually, when you were saying that at League, I thought about last night. 426 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:47.680 I was watching my son. Are Watching men in black, and when 427 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.440 we started I knew we only had about an hour left for his bedtime, 428 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.240 right. So, but because of commercial breaks that were in the show the 429 00:33:55.240 --> 00:34:01.000 recording, he was able to get out one more segment for Mommy. But 430 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.880 that's the that's what the reason to maybe think about that is because when people 431 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.719 are listening to a segment did show, you're right Ed to like they're Buch. 432 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.119 Were likely to listen to ten one minute programs in ten minute program but 433 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.440 if on the counter, obviously the show is how long it is. But 434 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.119 if they're a listener, they know that it was the show. I can 435 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.760 I can pick up five minutes of it, come back, I can do 436 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.000 another five minutes of it if I need to, and and it encourages people 437 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.280 to keep tapping into us. I of I'd love me some stingers when they're 438 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:36.480 as well. And the other example I'll use is one of the first shows 439 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.519 that I really played with with this kind of thing, and that was finding 440 00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:45.480 Florida. So finding Florida. Before each travel adventure episode, which we that 441 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.599 was a show for anybody's not familiar as a show would be too, did 442 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.320 took the show on the road, went some place different every month in Florida 443 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.039 and did some crazy stuff. So, but we had a preview episode leading 444 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.239 up to that where we would the first half food gives some info, some 445 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.039 fun stuff abouut the the place we're going to. But then the back half 446 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:06.679 is where I really played, and what I did was we're like five or 447 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:13.039 six general Florida segments, so you rotated in just for comedic purposes, and 448 00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.760 one of them, as an example, would be Florida foods and feel goods 449 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.360 and was about like a drink recipe or some cool thing that you know, 450 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:25.559 key lime pies or whatever. Sometimes was a Florida man type story or one 451 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.440 was called Florida man or not, and I had to have get Glenn. 452 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.480 Yes, is the story with truth, Florida or not we eat. Each 453 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:38.360 of these segments had its own distinct Stinger and we pulled what we do was 454 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:44.119 you pulled a music bed from audio blocks or story blocks and then added in 455 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.000 some additional sound effects to make it more unique. But reason I love that 456 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:51.639 is because, as a listener, I'm always thinking about things from listeners perspective 457 00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:57.840 andcourage everybody to do the same as a listener. When you hear that that 458 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.719 the homer Simpson don't end the music that goes under it, you know it's 459 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:07.199 a floor. To me a segment. When you hear this guy, God's 460 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.559 good here the clinking of ice glasses, you know you're about to hear a 461 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:14.199 floorda foods and feel good segments. You know what's coming up. There's something 462 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.400 to be said about setting that talent and bringing people on that journey and getting 463 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.000 them excited, knowing they're like, oh, I was coming next to me, 464 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.440 was coming next and he that feeling almost can't be bought and I love 465 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:29.480 being able to manufactor that feeling through a good Stinger. I complete absolutely a 466 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.920 hundred percent. Well, yeah, I agree. And here's the thing that 467 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.639 I think that if we pay attention to ourselves as consumers, and this is 468 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.760 what I do when I'm consuming whatever, youtube channels or TV, Shark tank 469 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:47.159 or Mr Best, it doesn't matter, there is that expectation, there is 470 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.679 that familiality or whatever, how do we say it? Like I'm familiar with 471 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.000 your show, I know what's going to happen, and that's probably eighty percent 472 00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:00.000 of most shows that I watch. And then there's that or maybe even ninety 473 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.840 percent, and then there's that like ten percent, like shock factor. I 474 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.840 go I didn't see that coming, or you know or whatever, and I 475 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.599 think sometimes I see content creators really try to go for that shock factor all 476 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:15.440 the time or, you know, like super high or whatever, and bring 477 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.039 that, you know, that super crazy energy to the whole entire production and 478 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.440 then it's just like tiring. And that's what I kind of like you know 479 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.639 about. You know, you're watching shark tank or whatever, maybe see these 480 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.280 highlights. I mean you just know what's going to happen and you can almost 481 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:34.119 tell by the conversations that they're having and how they talk. Now they communicate. 482 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:35.960 You're like, Oh, I know this person's not going to get a 483 00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:37.880 deal or they're going to get a deal. But then when that person where 484 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.039 you're like they just totally can this pitch, they're not getting anything, and 485 00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.159 then they get like this huge deal, you're like, holy cow, I 486 00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.840 didn't see that. And a lot of that probably is just the you know 487 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.199 these and I'm using shark tank as example. Maybe it's horrible, but but 488 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.960 that might just be the delivery of the personality. But it really comes down 489 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.400 to the editing of the show. It really comes down to the production of 490 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:01.880 the show and producers pulling these bits and putting them together in a certain way 491 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:07.159 to create this story. And I think that's the cool thing about segments and 492 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:08.559 having, you know, first of all, having to show format, like 493 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:13.000 knowing what you want to accomplish with the show, but then having segments so 494 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.280 you can go and you can craft this entire story around what it is that 495 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:22.800 you're creating. So love that really. Guess what I just got asked to 496 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.400 do and I had a call about it yesterday. I just got just just 497 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:32.280 gonna call to moderate a panel. It podcast called black women in sound design 498 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.639 and it's going to be all about this kind of stuff, how you create 499 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:43.360 sound spaces and experiences and it's it's a black women. Well, unfortunately, 500 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.280 I'm I'm unable to attend because I'm busy moving that week, but I have 501 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.960 time producing Jimmy's. Really, I'm getting that was that was a saught. 502 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:53.440 I know that was a soft lead into an invite to be a part of 503 00:38:53.480 --> 00:39:01.119 your panel, but I'm still that sounds yeah, I'm totally qualified on all 504 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.159 stances. All right, so I want to fasten my get over to Steve 505 00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.800 and he's been on the stage for a minute here on cold house. So, 506 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.920 Steven, feel free to on mute and share some thoughts about the conversation. 507 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.840 Okay, there it is. My share. You Go. My screen 508 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.599 was locked for some reason. But yeah, Billy, thanks for having me 509 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.039 on and Gemma, always good to see you. It's a pleasure to hear 510 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:36.800 your your voice and your laugh always makes me smile. Yeah, I have 511 00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.320 been in this podcast game for a minute. I'm a stand up comedian and 512 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:49.199 a filmmaker. I write and produce and I also do outdoor film festivals with 513 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.599 pop up drive in movie theaters. So when I first got into the PODCAST 514 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:58.840 game was at the John Lovetts podcast theater in universal city walk, and I 515 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:04.079 was kind of blown a away with the how they did it because before I 516 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:10.440 went into that theater of the podcast basically was done on an actual ipod and 517 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.679 that's what it was. And in John lovetts decided to make a theater and 518 00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:21.480 do the podcast on a live stage and from front of a live audience with 519 00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.760 celebrity comedians and guests and and there was like a stand up component that came 520 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.679 with it, and it was all these really cool things and I I'm like, 521 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.199 I that's something that I have to do. And John Lovett was coined 522 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.159 as the Podfather, which is how I came up with my podcast name, 523 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:44.760 a pod brother, and I've been a pod brother ever since. And and 524 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.719 I launched my own network called pod brother nation, and I do that through 525 00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:58.440 a live stream broadcast platform called bots cast. And and I don't recommend this, 526 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.519 but I'm kind of all over the place. I am very, very, 527 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:08.840 very fragmented with what I'm doing and since I've got box cast, I've 528 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.000 been able to kind of hone these different segments into an actual channel within my 529 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.639 channel, because they have a feature that allows me to do that. But 530 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.239 because I'm a standup comic, I have a lot of comedians that like, 531 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.440 Oh, you know, I want to come on your show. Let's chop 532 00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:28.559 it up with comedy, and then I have filmmakers that be like, Oh, 533 00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.440 let's talk film, and then actors are like, let's talk acting, 534 00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:37.000 and then you know. So I run in all these different circles and I 535 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.159 love them all. So when you kind of look at my podcast, it's 536 00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.679 kind of like I'm all over the place with so many different types of shows. 537 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.440 I go to Innab and I was able to get my hands on a 538 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.599 a channel video switcher, which rolling makes, and then and then I also 539 00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:01.000 do sound for film. So I have a six channel sound device, a 540 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:06.199 six four sound device for capturing sound from movies. So you know, I'm 541 00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.360 not sound guy with the boom, you know, hanging over the actors. 542 00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:14.199 So I have a lot of amazing gear and with that gear I'm able to 543 00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:20.400 have the Steve and I think you if you dropped into the Matrix. Yeah, 544 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.599 I have ability to do different types of shows. So so some of 545 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:30.400 my shows will be, you know, like I'll have a channel video switcher, 546 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:37.360 and then some will be just like an audio interview. So yeah, 547 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.440 I think we keep losing. You know, I'm at sorry, I don't 548 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.880 know, fear I got, I got, I got, people are calling 549 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.920 me. So it's that's all. We're important guy. I'm in. You're 550 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.920 important guy. Perfect time fails. No one calls until you're on stage, 551 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.920 and what R on stage, everybody calls you. It's a right min time. 552 00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.360 But yeah, you know, it's one of these things where I'm learning 553 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:06.719 a lot. Dude, whoever sign to call you really wants to get a 554 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:08.280 hold of you. So I'm going to I'm a pause you right there, 555 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.280 man. I'm going to let you take your phone call if you need to. 556 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:16.280 I love that you are using your podcast in a multifaceted, you know, 557 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:20.679 production way and kind of switching it up. You know I'm more of 558 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:24.360 a niche style podcaster, but are trying to be anyway. But I definitely 559 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:30.280 love that you're bringing all of your your creative ecosystem into there and it's even 560 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.239 I'll invite you, if you can still hear me, I'll invite you to 561 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.840 be a part of creating daily, a live show, to kind of dive 562 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:38.639 more into that at some point. So that'd be Super Fun to have you 563 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.960 on. Yeah, I would love to. That would be that would be 564 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.760 awesome cool. All right, man, we'll appreciate you jumping in and I 565 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.920 want to pass the Mike over and probably going to be my last. Well, 566 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.719 depends on the conversation. But KNIE, what's up? Man, you've 567 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.360 made it on creating daily. I know you've been waiting for this moment forever, 568 00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:04.599 so welcome. If it's listing. That is my signal is bad too, 569 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:06.960 because I got ever read, but I don't think you guys can give 570 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.440 to get. Yeah, it's a little. It's okay. Yeah, you 571 00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.280 can keep talking. We can hear you. Okay, now I just Goin 572 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.280 to hang out with you guys to got what it topic was about contens of 573 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:23.079 podcasting, and that was it, though. I didn't know it was your 574 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:27.079 show. Oh Yeah, dude, you're fine. No, yeah, so 575 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.119 we're live. We're live all of the place and on creating daily. Because 576 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:36.159 so this is our our weekly round table sort just kind of have a round 577 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.800 table discussion about formats and segments for shows and a lot of good stuff, 578 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.719 man, a lot of good information. So hopefully, if if you're a 579 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.559 podcast live streamer or you're working your way into being a podcast or a live 580 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.719 streamer, you can take some really good, you know, content away from 581 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.880 this this episode, because I think there's some really great ideas and one thing 582 00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:00.079 that I've seen is there's not one you know, there's not one shoe fits 583 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.119 everyone. Not, not everyone's doing the same thing. You know, you 584 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.159 heard price, six, seven, eight different people today talking about different, 585 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.880 you know, concepts, different segments, different things that they've tried, different 586 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.639 things that they've done, and and so throw some mud on the wall and 587 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.840 get it, you know, see what happens. So you can do so 588 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.480 that is that is it for the round table. I really appreciate Dominic Michael 589 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:29.159 said earlier. Producer, Jimmy, Angelique Stevenne. Think you guys so much 590 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:31.159 for coming up on the stage, being a part of creating daily. So 591 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:35.719 you can actually watch this on youtube or you can watch on guild or bullhorn. 592 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.400 FACEBOOK linkedin all the places that you can watch it, and I have 593 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.519 I have our phone screen up there, so you'll see all your little avatars 594 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:45.920 hanging out out there and feel free to share the show as well. And 595 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:50.559 so really appreciate that. And we'll do this probably once a week. Maybe 596 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.480 we may do it exclusively on one platform or the other, so it's not 597 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:58.480 like I'm wrangling cats and comments and all this kind of stuff. But really 598 00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:02.480 appreciate all your thoughts, you know, toward this topic and this is great 599 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:07.440 because I had a whole backup plan going if this didn't work out. So 600 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.280 I really appreciate all you guys jumping up here, for sure, and anybody 601 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.679 else that raise your hand and couldn't come up. Appreciate you being a part 602 00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:16.880 of the room and in a part of the show. So that is it 603 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:22.519 for the Creator Round Table Portion of the show and I really appreciate everyone jumping 604 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.719 in everyone being a part of creating daily. We are daily live show. 605 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.159 We're going to live two pm every Monday through Friday. I am taking a 606 00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.320 little time off at the end of May because I'm moving from Puerto Rico back 607 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:38.119 to North Carolina, so the week of the twenty four through the first of 608 00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.360 June. So I'll be back tune. First, however, I'll be back 609 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.119 tomorrow to talk about how do you level up your lot? How do you 610 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:51.000 level up your audio without spending all the cash in your bank account? I 611 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.480 know sometimes you will get into some audio conversations and it'll be like, oh, 612 00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.400 how do we do? You know this all you got to go buy 613 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.079 a six hundred road cast. You get to give my four hundred. You 614 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.159 know, sures, mxvb, and it's just not really true. It's not 615 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.719 true at all. And you can get some really great quality audio from different 616 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.280 devices. So we're going to get shop in tomorrow, so join me. 617 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.760 I'm going to be on Amazon. I'm going to be sharing some stuff and 618 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.480 kind of going through some of the gear that I've used over the last few 619 00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.760 years and really show you how I've went, you know, from one piece 620 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.280 of gear to the next and the next and the next, and and maybe 621 00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.639 how you can do that as well. That's a good strategy for you. 622 00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:31.199 So that is going to be tomorrow at two PM. Right here on creating 623 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.880 daily, and you can go check that out and we'll see you guys tomorrow