Transcript
WEBVTT
1
00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.519
Here's some really like you're listening to
creating daily. There's something wrong with you.
2
00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.519
You know that because you and I
are like a mullets. It is
3
00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:13.080
the is the business. He's the
front part of the haircut and then I'm
4
00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:16.519
the party in the back. I
think they're hilarious. Speaks to me.
5
00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:24.559
It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. Welcome to another episode of creating daily.
6
00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:29.000
I'm your host, Billy Thorpe.
In today is made the fourth and
7
00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:34.280
unfortunately there's I mean I'm gonna say
unfortunately people are watching, but I guess
8
00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.719
I'll go ahead and minute. I've
never seen this star wars movie. I
9
00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:40.200
admitted them Monday when Chris Vagilo was
on the show. So go ahead,
10
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:46.200
throw all your hate messages right there
near the chat closest to you, and
11
00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:48.039
there, then, there you go. That's it. We can get that
12
00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:51.039
over with. Okay, okay,
we're just pulled off to the SCAB,
13
00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:55.119
or whatever you call it. SCAB
is maybe a weird word, but anyway,
14
00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.399
welcome to creating daily. Got A
great show lined up for you and
15
00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:02.960
I hope that you will get involved
either in the chat over here on clubhouse.
16
00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:04.480
I get this nice little if you're
watching the video gat it's Nice little
17
00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:10.040
clubhouse window all prepared for you,
kind of doing this whole old school way.
18
00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.640
So I see Dominic and I handra
said brand, James, drue,
19
00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.959
Anthony, all those people. Just
know if you come up on the stage
20
00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:23.239
during clubhouse that you are being recorded
in broadcasted to to everywhere. So come
21
00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.719
come check that out, or you
can join me on guild. You can
22
00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.120
go to ritual motioncom or click the
link if you're in clubhouse. If you
23
00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:34.239
want to see the video aspect of
this and join on their platform, you'd
24
00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.359
head over to Bullhorn I fm.
GET THEIR APP. You can call in,
25
00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.920
you can chat over there as well, and I have all these little
26
00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.560
chats set up so we can be
able to see them. Well, that
27
00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:48.200
one's not working too great, but
anyway, I'll fix that as we get
28
00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.000
into it. But yeah, be
a part of the show, because today's
29
00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.959
show we're going to be talking about
segments and formats of podcasts and live shows
30
00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.840
and really just kind of have fun
Creator Round Table. So if you want
31
00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.480
to come on the stage on clubhouse, feel free to do that. And
32
00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:04.599
if there's any of my friends there, followed by speakers, that would like
33
00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.120
to moderate, feel free to let
me know and I will. I'll green
34
00:02:07.199 --> 00:02:09.879
being you and and maybe you can
help me bring some people up on the
35
00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:13.919
stage as well. But before we
get into it, as always, we
36
00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.159
got a couple of segments lined up
for you, so let's go ahead and
37
00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:22.560
jump in there. What it's still
time with creating daily all right. So
38
00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.719
this first tool is actually about live
streaming and it makes my life easier to
39
00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:30.000
create all these different segments with,
and that is Ecam live. Now this
40
00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:35.479
is much different than stream yard or
bull horn or restream or guild. This
41
00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.400
is actually a software on your computer, so it's a desktop software that allows
42
00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:44.280
you to create all these different scenes
and really customize everything. So I get
43
00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.680
a lot of questions, primarily like
billy, how in the world you make
44
00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:51.439
your things so complicated or why,
or whatever it's with ECAM. Okay,
45
00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:53.159
it's not. It's not magic.
It's a little bit of a learning curve.
46
00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:58.520
I think it's easier than OBS and
if you're a maci user, I
47
00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.319
really like it because there's a hundred
percent focus on Mac users and what that
48
00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:05.159
looks like for us. So yeah, I kind of like it. I
49
00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:08.240
like that exclusivity that they actually have
with it. But keep in mind all
50
00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:13.280
these different tools, guild, bowlhorn, restream, stream yard, they all
51
00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:16.840
have different things that they do in
different use cases and I actually use quite
52
00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:20.560
a bit of them for different projects. But there you go. There is
53
00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:25.240
my tool for today. Now let's
jump over and highlight a creator. Creator
54
00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:31.599
highlights new cooking necessary and the assembly
required. He's got to be fun,
55
00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:37.479
all right. Today's creater highlight is
once again brought to you by OWL APP.
56
00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:42.639
That is Oh wwll O doublew l, and you can use the code
57
00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.560
bet six, one, four,
five, hundred and three for early access
58
00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.360
and a ten dollar sign up bonus. So if you're a pro if you're
59
00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.560
an expert and you want to get
paid, if you want to charge those
60
00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:55.120
brain pickers that come around every now
and again and go hey, yeah,
61
00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:58.080
well, you got five minutes,
I could pick your brain, and then
62
00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:00.599
you spend forty five minutes on the
phone, then they go. They make
63
00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:01.639
a Gob of money in the call. You back and back, Ay,
64
00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.719
Bro, a bit tone know money
with with the Info you gave me,
65
00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:08.560
and then you're like that's great,
I didn't make any money. So this
66
00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.319
way you can't make money. Or
if you're on the other side of it
67
00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:15.240
and you're getting ready to do a
creative project or a live stream or a
68
00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.839
business deal or need to count it. You need information, jump on this
69
00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:21.800
APP, call somebody who cares and
they will don't give you the information you
70
00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:26.560
need. So go download that and
what's getting use that code and all these
71
00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:30.160
links, by the way, or
on my website, creating daily dot live
72
00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:35.759
live or live show or watch,
watch, that's what it is anyway.
73
00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:40.639
Good to creating daily dot live and
just tap on the watch live and I
74
00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:44.879
got all these important links there,
plus some other fun stuff. All right,
75
00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:46.959
so now let's jump into Oh,
the creator highlight. What am I
76
00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.199
talking about? What I missed it? I got to play the thing again
77
00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:56.279
creator highlights, because I didn't highlight
the Creator sery and new assembly required cheese.
78
00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:00.199
All Right, here we go.
The stream show is who I want
79
00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:02.160
to highlight. If you guys are
watching, maybe priority saw it on the
80
00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:08.480
screen, but the stream show with
with Brent or brant and strict. They
81
00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.959
come on live every Sunday at seven
PM eastern time. Super good show.
82
00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:17.199
They have over forty years experience in
media production and so it is a streaming
83
00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:23.439
production review show. Hosted by DJ
strict and Brent Collins, really a great
84
00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.279
show. So I want to highlight
those guys. All right now I'm so
85
00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.040
excited I keep skipping segments because I
want to bring on some people up to
86
00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.319
the stage on clubhouse, if you
will, or if you want to jump
87
00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.560
into jump into guild, let me
know. Shoot me a little message there
88
00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.879
in the chat and say hey,
I want to, I'm want to come
89
00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.959
in and be a part of the
show, because we're going to talk about
90
00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.920
segments, we're going to talk about
formats of shows, and I me a
91
00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.680
segments and format might be the same
thing. I'm not a hundred percent sure.
92
00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.920
In my mind is a little different. I'm totally up for learning some
93
00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:57.040
stuff, but let's set it up
first. So if I'm thinking of a
94
00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.279
format of a show, here we
go, my friends in meadows. Finally,
95
00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.600
this cannot be a creator round table
if no one's on the table but
96
00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.319
me. So what's UPSETON? How's
it going in what's up, billy?
97
00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:10.240
I'm doing gray man, how are
you? You feeling all right? I
98
00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.319
know you're under the weather. Be
Good now. Yeah, I'm feeling better.
99
00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.439
I'm not a hundred percent yet,
but getting better. And each and
100
00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.000
every day, and that's all the
matters right now. Yeah, man,
101
00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:21.439
that's awesome. Well, I got
you here, gets you on the screen,
102
00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:25.480
it gets you pulled up see all
of our friends in the audience.
103
00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.720
So, sid it's now a I
don't know, like a line table.
104
00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.879
We're not quite round yet, so
it's just a line between you and I.
105
00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:38.319
But you do a podcast. Are
You segmenting that podcast? Do you
106
00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:41.040
have any kind of format where you
just kind of get on there Willie Nilly
107
00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:46.319
and figured it out as you go? So I think it's a great question
108
00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:50.199
and I think there is a dit. There is a difference between a format
109
00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:58.120
and a segment. In one of
my shows the format is conversational and there
110
00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:03.040
are no segments and we literally start
off with a basic idea of what the
111
00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:06.959
conversation is going to be like and
then we have a conversation. That's,
112
00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:12.519
to me a format right now a
segment. In my second show, the
113
00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:18.439
amazing entrepreneurs club, we have segments
in that show where we the first segment
114
00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:24.839
is we interduce the formats conversational,
but the first segment is an introduction of
115
00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:30.759
the entrepreneur. The second segment is
them providing tips to up other entrepreneurs and
116
00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:35.040
then the third segment is them.
I think it's actually four segments. The
117
00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:40.600
third segment is them. I'm sharing
their insights that would help other entrepreneurs,
118
00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:44.240
and in the fourth one is having
a little bit of fun and answering some
119
00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:49.360
questions. So that one segmented,
but still the format is conversation. Okay,
120
00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:54.079
cool. So I'm glad that we
agree on that because that's how I
121
00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.360
was thinking about it in my mind
as well. Is Format is kind of
122
00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.399
like the thirtyzero foot view. You
know, what is this show? Is
123
00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.839
a solo as monolog is a CO
hosted as a round table, is a
124
00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:11.279
storytelling, you know, all these
types of is interview style, and then
125
00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.519
segments were kind of like a level
deeper in my mind. So it's kind
126
00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:18.560
of sounds like that's what you're saying
as well, like from your thought processes.
127
00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.000
Yeah, absolutely, and I have
a friend that has a podcast that
128
00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:30.560
she segments hers, but she calls
them chapters and she calls it out in
129
00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.720
the in the episode. She goes, you know, she sets up the
130
00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.559
episode and then she says, okay, and chapter one we're going to talk
131
00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.240
about this. In Chapter Two we're
going to talk about this and then chapter
132
00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.039
three, we're going to talk about
this. Now. She spends months preparing
133
00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:48.519
for these. These are very well
edited and they're bringing in different voices from
134
00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:54.080
different zoom meetings and things of that
nature. So they're curated and it tells
135
00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.720
the story and it's hitting on a
point. But I like the fact I
136
00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:01.120
like the terminology chapters. Okay,
Gotcha. Yeah, that's how I like
137
00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.120
that too, and I think you
know, when you're doing like youtube or
138
00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.720
instagram or not, Youtuber, instagram
on. Go to Youtube or Vinmeo,
139
00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.919
they actually have a way for you
to set up chapters so you can actually
140
00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.559
time for you know, frame it
out with the time, the time code
141
00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:22.480
or whatever and do that. So
sorry, I was little bit distracted here.
142
00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.240
We'll see. Michael sterning was telling
me there's some audio issues, so
143
00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.039
I will deal with those actually,
while I introduce my friend Brent from one
144
00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:31.240
sheet, and by the way,
if you don't have one sheet, you
145
00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.559
need to check it out. Go
to one sheet, dot pro Billy Thorpe.
146
00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:41.240
That is the number one sheet spelled
out. Do Pro Billy Thorpe in
147
00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.480
no matter what said Sid says,
do not go to his go to mind
148
00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.919
only because it is a competition.
I don't care what they say. But
149
00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.840
anyway, what's up brand good to
see you man. Hey Billy, I
150
00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.399
just wanted to jump in. I
actually might can contribute to this round table.
151
00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.279
It's dated, so you got slap
my wrist if I do say anything.
152
00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:03.039
That's you know, shows my early
podcasting days. We used to experimental
153
00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.240
lot and I love what you guys
are talking about. As far as I
154
00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.720
a format versus the segments, I
guess maybe I might have thought of the
155
00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:16.240
format sort of including the outline a
little bit, but spot on and yeah,
156
00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:18.840
I love it. I love the
conversation. Hopefully we can learn some
157
00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:20.440
new tips and tricks for creating a
show. I'd love to get back in
158
00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.639
the saddle one day. That'd be
cool, man. Come on over,
159
00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.919
dude, it'll be yeah, come
come back on over to the to the
160
00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.759
dark side to the podcast. I
shouldn't say the dark side of you know,
161
00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:35.240
made us another star wars thing.
Anyway. So well, James Ticks
162
00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.840
is jumping in over here on the
other the on Youtube. So what's up,
163
00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.320
James? I'm going to be on
James Show on Thursday, but anyway,
164
00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:43.679
go ahead, Britt I just gotta
say, like my old show,
165
00:10:45.200 --> 00:17:03.960
we stumbled into it. We'll get
the or neither. I'm sorry, reframe
166
00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.519
the question to re ask the questionability. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
167
00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:08.480
That was good because I was kind
of I was leading with the thought there,
168
00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.119
but I'm like, you know what, let me ask the question then
169
00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.000
I'll share what we glean. The
Geek does. So are you changing up
170
00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:19.839
your show format or show segments at
all or you keeping it the same for
171
00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:26.119
like multiple episodes? Are you experimenting
with that at all? So I keep
172
00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:32.799
so the amazing entpreneurs club has two
different formats. Okay, so you get
173
00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:38.839
the first format, that is me
interviewing somebody and the segments in that don't
174
00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:44.759
change and that episode, those episodes
run the first and the third week.
175
00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:48.359
The second in the fourth weeks,
is a completely different format, which is
176
00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.039
actually a ten to win format,
is what I call it, which is
177
00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:59.920
a ten minute solo episode sharing tips
at insights that help other entrepreneurs. Sometimes
178
00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:02.160
Times they're brought to you by me, most of them are by me,
179
00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.359
and then sometimes they're brought by other
people or other podcasters sharing their insight.
180
00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:11.319
So that show has two different formats
and I am not changing them at this
181
00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.119
time. Okay, Gotcha. That's
pretty awesome, Britt how about you guys?
182
00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.480
When you're doing digital dad's, I
feel like this is a here we
183
00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.839
go, angeleas can come up.
This can be fun. What's that?
184
00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.279
Rattro? Just Retro, old school. Yeah, your old schools. Go
185
00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:27.559
back in your old school brain.
Did you? Did you guys, switch
186
00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:30.200
up segments? Did you replace segments, all that kind of stuff? Would
187
00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.039
you keep it the same the whole
time you had it? Well, like
188
00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:37.240
I said, we were terrible when
we started. So we tinkered a lot,
189
00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.400
which was great in some cases,
like, for example, we just
190
00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.720
decided, hey, we should bring
the audience on the show. I don't
191
00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.839
care who you are, your dad
listening to the show, getting our facebook
192
00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:49.400
group and come on the show,
and that worked out amazingly. In some
193
00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.880
cases, some of them were like
Polish podcasters, for example Tom Tate.
194
00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.000
I met him through digital dads,
which is crazy because I guess he's in
195
00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.200
the podcasting world. But so he
was great because he knew his way around
196
00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:02.559
the MIC. But then I had
people that was like pulling teeth and we
197
00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.640
just threw like five guys plus two
hosts in together that format didn't work as
198
00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.519
you could make. No Way.
Yeah, yeah, no way, because
199
00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.720
we got to act. It's like
this, right, we got to actually
200
00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.640
engage with the people that were listening
rather than it just being like talking to
201
00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.680
each other the whole time. But
yeah, we experimented a lot. We
202
00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.640
did a lot of different things.
We did a radio lab style episode about
203
00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:30.119
the talk, which was really ambitious. Yeah, we tink. You know,
204
00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.920
Donnian's, I think, was along
for the ride. They gave us
205
00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:36.480
a lot of feedbacks. That goodness
made that facebook group and they kind of
206
00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.200
told us what they liked them what
they did. But we did try to
207
00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:44.839
find a path to where the beginning
sounded roughly the same. The book ends,
208
00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.720
part of it sounded the same.
My daughter did this boom chickaboom think
209
00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:48.960
at the like, you know.
So, so it felt like the same
210
00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.759
episode, but we definitely played with
it, for sure. Okay, yeah,
211
00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.920
man, I like that so and
I think that's a good idea to
212
00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.319
play with it, see what works, see what your audience resonates with,
213
00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.759
try different stuff and I guess it
depends on the style show. I guess
214
00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.039
it depends on, you know,
like what your topic, you're niche maybe.
215
00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.480
I mean maybe your niche is like
super serious and it's, you know,
216
00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:14.200
break can't play the singer while talking
about hacking somebody up in a murder
217
00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.480
crime podcast. But I do think
that's pretty cool to try it and that's
218
00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:21.880
what I'm that's what I'm really you
know, it's really curious about this room.
219
00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.680
Will selfishly started this room on clubhouse
and get or this live show,
220
00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:29.799
I guess, this Creator Round Table, because I am curious to see,
221
00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:33.359
like what do people resonate with the
most? What do they enjoy listening to?
222
00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:36.519
What kind of segments do they like? In Glenn the Geek over at
223
00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:40.279
the Horse Radio Network, I was
listening to a podcast where he was on
224
00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:47.960
it and he was basically saying that
he will try something, he'll do something
225
00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.640
like one week or maybe two weeks
in a row, and then oftentimes,
226
00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:55.599
like if it's not a good segment, you know, one either they recognize
227
00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:57.240
it's not a good segment or two, like they just forget about it there.
228
00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:00.200
Oh yeah, we just forgot about
that segment where we did whatever.
229
00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.440
They just went and bring it back
because if it was you know, if
230
00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.839
they forgot about it, as the
host and probably the audience didn't remember either.
231
00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.480
So I think this cool, man. I think it's leans for a
232
00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:14.720
lot of creativity to change it up
and all that kind of stuff. So
233
00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:17.200
so, Sid real quick, while
we're in clubhouse, man, if I
234
00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:18.519
know you're I know you're not feeling
well. So if anybody else wants to
235
00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.319
help me out, bring some people
up, but I'm going to bring dominic
236
00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.400
up here as well, but I
want to pass the mic over to my
237
00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:32.799
friend Angelique. She's the sheet,
is the rock star slayer of like stingers
238
00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:34.599
and segments and all that kind of
stuff. So, Angelie, cow are
239
00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:41.240
you? It's been a minute since
we've chatted and I don't hear you.
240
00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:45.599
So I'm trying to I don't.
I don't hear you. So if you're
241
00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.119
talking, maybe jump out of the
room and jump back in, since that'll
242
00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:53.200
work. Is anybody else hear her
when she came off Mike, I did
243
00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:57.359
not hear her. No, all
right, Angelique, so maybe Michael can
244
00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.440
help you trouble shoot there in the
back chat. I'll pass the mic over
245
00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.440
to Dominique real quick. What's up, Dominique House? It going? Man,
246
00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.559
I'm living a dream, brother.
I can't complain. I just wanted
247
00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:14.039
to say I really love this topic
because it really reminds me of my personal
248
00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:18.880
journey as a podcast or when I
first started with my very first show back
249
00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.440
in two thousand and sixteen, it
was just monolog and now it's because I
250
00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.680
couldn't get guests on my show.
And then, you know, switch from
251
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:30.960
monolog to like the interview style,
conversation style, if you will. But
252
00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:38.640
last year I started experimenting with the
nonfiction storytelling the format, and if you're
253
00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:42.599
not familiar with that, format is
kind of like INMPR, this American life
254
00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:48.480
type of format where it's like interviews
mixed in with like your voiceover and stuff
255
00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.160
like that, and those type of
podcast take all very long time to create
256
00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.839
and edit and stuff like that.
But the fun, but the crazy thing
257
00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:03.240
is as much work is it is
with editing. I've never loved podcasting more
258
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.240
than I do right now. It's
like it's a lot of hard work.
259
00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.079
It's extremely tedious, but I don't
even want to create other type of podcast
260
00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:14.759
except them, because, you know, you get the voiceover, you get
261
00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.000
the interview, you get the sound
effects, you get the music and it's
262
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:22.279
like this big production and it's been
really cool to do so those are the
263
00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.920
only type of podcast I create now
and it takes me about three weeks to
264
00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.200
do one episode from research, touting
and all that stuff. Oh yeah,
265
00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.200
about three weeks to do one episode, because it's just me, right.
266
00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.839
Know, these type of podcasts,
you know you have like a team of
267
00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.240
like five to ten people, right, you know, you you listen to
268
00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.119
like the history channels podcast and they're
saying thank you to this story editor,
269
00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:48.039
this writer and this, that and
the other. It's all just me.
270
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.839
And so it takes me about three
weeks of each episode, but I wouldn't
271
00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.680
change it for anything in the world. It's making me love podcasting even more.
272
00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.839
I've done speaking. It's awesome.
And so you're sitting out of all
273
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.680
the show types you've done, which
we can talk about those here in a
274
00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.079
minute. You know, pros and
cons of each. I think that would
275
00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:10.880
be an interesting perspective. But this, the storytelling format, is like your
276
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.839
favorite that you've done of all these, all these styles, all these formats.
277
00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:18.920
Absolutely, because as cool allows me
to be extremely creative, right,
278
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.960
like from like telling your story to
scorn and stuff like that. So it's
279
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.200
really cool, man. That's cool. That's awesome. That's kind of why
280
00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:29.039
I love the the live stream aspect
to like I get to you know,
281
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.160
it's like getting on social audios.
Fun. Sitting in front of one camera's
282
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.920
kind of fun, but when I
really get to put the whole show together
283
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:38.519
and make you know, like right
now, like if you guys click on
284
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.880
the link on the clubhouse room that's
linked up above, you'll go over to
285
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.920
guild and you know, see over
on guild what I've put together and you'll
286
00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.480
see your own little faces and stuff
like that. So it's a lot of
287
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.559
fun. So a Brent, go
ahead, man, that's so you come
288
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:53.559
off Mike there. Yeah, I
just wanted to jump in and give you
289
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:59.480
props, Domini, because we tried
that ambitiously for one episode, one one
290
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:03.599
single episode. Loved it. Agree
with everything you said. Only the effort
291
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:06.720
was weeks. For us it was
me and a cohost. So man in,
292
00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.960
Kudos to you, because putting that
kind of contact out is just fantastic
293
00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.839
for the listener. So love that
you're doing that. Yeah, yes,
294
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.599
it's definitely a label of Love.
Is definitely a label, though, but
295
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:21.680
I appreciate that. Thank you great, awesome. Well, in real quick
296
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.279
and Jelika saw her. She came
back in. She sent a little backchat.
297
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.200
They're talking about club decks off.
If you want to give it a
298
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.559
go again, Angelique would love to
hear thoughts on this. And Yeah,
299
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.279
we'll keep around table, and I
think we finally get around table. So
300
00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.160
I really appreciate all of you awesome
creators jumping on here. So, Michael,
301
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.480
what's up, my man, it's
been a minute. Hello, billy,
302
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.920
what's up? All Right? Yeah, this is a great conversation.
303
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:48.480
I've been in broadcasting since I started
in college in one thousand nine hundred and
304
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.000
ninety eight, so I have a
lot of experience with like setting up different
305
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:56.079
segmenting of programs and preproduction planning and
so on. So I find this really
306
00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.319
interesting and I would just my first
thought is, you know, whatever you're
307
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.839
going to do, try to make
things as easy on yourself, preproduction wise,
308
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.839
so that you've got the framework,
you've got the timing you want.
309
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.400
You know, however, you want
things to flow so that you're more set
310
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.160
up for success when you actually do
produce the content. But that's all I
311
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.680
have to say for right now.
But this is a great room. Thanks.
312
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.359
Yeah, man. Well, thanks
for jumping and thanks for sharing that
313
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.160
too. But and I think you
know, for me anyway, like,
314
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:29.960
especially doing a show every single day
like I am, it really brings like
315
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.079
it really like gives me confidence,
I guess, because I can't I know
316
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.160
what I'm planning for. I know
you know kind of the flow I want
317
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.200
to go for, I know you
know the segments. I need information for
318
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:42.039
a content, for that kind of
thing, and so it's a lot of
319
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:45.160
fun to you know, put that
together, kind of have that run a
320
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.319
show in place and then, you
know, once again, kind of break
321
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.279
that up a little bit. So, yeah, this has been and you
322
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:53.720
know I'm kind of come from one
perspective, but we do that in our
323
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:59.319
fishing podcast to like we have we
have a you know opening, there's a
324
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:03.200
little bit of answer, but then
we have a segment, a segment spot
325
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.119
on their or a sponsor spot on
their sponsor segment, and then we have
326
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.319
the main content, main interview,
and then we also have like a billy's
327
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.880
best takeaway, because I'm kind of
the non fisherman of the podcast, or
328
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.240
you know, that's kind of the
character I play it. So it's like
329
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:19.519
okay, billy, were you paying
attention? All right, what was your
330
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.400
best takeaway? And a man for
our audience. It's been a lot of
331
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.319
fun for them to be a part
of that as well. So super cool.
332
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.000
And then now I want to pass
the MICA. Will keep going over,
333
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.119
still round table. This is great. So I'll pass the mic over
334
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:38.559
to Angelik really quickly. She had
a audio troublesome to make sure we hear
335
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:42.200
her thoughts on the subject. So
let's go ahead and try again. Angelik.
336
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.200
Okay, can you hear me now? Her loud and clear. This
337
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.759
is awesome. Great. Well,
I wanted to come up here to defend
338
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.279
stingers to sid but he's gone.
Hope you feel s yeah, it is
339
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.519
filling on the weather. So he
sent me a message like Hey, I'm
340
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.440
going to get take a nap.
So he's Ye. So yeah, there
341
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.720
you go. We could have a
NAP Stinger for him next time. But
342
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.160
you know what, this is replays
and I could probably just send him the
343
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.519
audio file afterward to hear your thoughts. So please share them. To said,
344
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.000
this is specifically just for you.
Said, I think that stingers do
345
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.279
do one of one of two things
really well. I think it definitely is
346
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.640
a pattern interrupt and it changes up
the energy, but it also sets the
347
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:30.960
tone and but I do think that
the concept of bringing in and having the
348
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:37.759
I think shaping, shaping the experience
with audio is really important. So that's
349
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.400
what I use them for. It's
more of like this is going to be
350
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.960
fun, versus me just hoping that
it's fun. Right, I'm already kind
351
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.960
of setting the tone, like the
boots and cats, for instance. People
352
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.240
really seem to like that one in
particular, and I think it was just
353
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.079
kind of my own ability. It
was like an outlet for me to just
354
00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:02.759
be able to do something creative in
a different way than just then just speaking.
355
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.440
There it is, I got it
out. Love that. Yeah,
356
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.759
that's a that's good to set yourself
well, I you know, I'm trying
357
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.000
to collect my thoughts here, but
I think that is part of it.
358
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:18.119
Is sometimes as podcasters, sometimes as
live streamers. I know as a live
359
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.160
streamer, like sometimes I would just
get on facebook, live or wherever and
360
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.640
like okay, cool, I hope
people show up, I hope it's fun.
361
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.440
I don't have a plan, I
don't have a format, there's no
362
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.920
expectation and it would just wasn't it
was never fun, it was never well
363
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.400
put together. I had no idea
what I was ever talking about, no
364
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.319
one ever watched and then when I've
finally started to, you know, understand,
365
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.079
and I don't know why I didn't
understand this earlier as a solo creator,
366
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.839
because as a creator on a team, you know, I worked in
367
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:48.400
the TV space for a while and
so it was all, you know,
368
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.480
very heavy, segmented and planned out
and very detailed and you know all those
369
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.599
kinds of things. So yeah,
that's a plan to be successful, plan
370
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.759
for it to be fun. Is
Good thought there. So, Michaelss you,
371
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.400
yeah, and I would say billy
plan, the the the energy that
372
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:08.000
you want for your program like,
you know, if you want it to
373
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.519
be a high energy program then get
people with high energy stingers and with high
374
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.119
energy music and things like that.
If it's something where it's a little bit
375
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.400
more intimate, you're going to get
into the microphone, then think about how
376
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.839
the energy of that program could flow
depending on what content you're trying to get
377
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.960
in there. And so yeah,
Angelique, your stingers are great because they
378
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.880
they've fit you and your energy and
what you're trying to do for your program
379
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.720
and so they're wonderful. So yeah, I'm not going to ever dump on
380
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.200
stingers, just make sure they fit
the energy you're trying to do for your
381
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.400
program that's good. That's good,
till, and I do think that super
382
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.640
good to think that's Impletad, though
it does match my energy because they're made
383
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.079
by me, right, so I
didn't just go pick some and then put
384
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.440
them, like slap them into my
show. And I know that not everybody
385
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.039
could probably feel that they could make
them, but I think they could.
386
00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.119
Actually, I just made mine and
garage band and some of them are,
387
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.920
you know, ten seconds, three
seconds. They're not, they're not long,
388
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:10.680
they're not super complicated. It's just
me being creative and also because I
389
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.839
know how to segue into the next
thing right, I have this kind of
390
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.039
not only is that a pattern interrupt, but it also kind of like closes
391
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.240
off one thing and starts another thing, no different than people will watch ten
392
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.839
one minute videos before they'll watch one
ten minute video, right, and essentially
393
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.240
you're just chopping up your your cast, your radio show, your shit,
394
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.400
whatever it is that you're doing,
into shorter segments that way. Yeah,
395
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.640
yeah, I love that. That's
a great tip. And producer, Jimmy,
396
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.200
don't want to leave you out.
I know you're hanging out. I
397
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.599
know you've been dealing with a little
bit of headache stuff, so I want
398
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.440
to give you an opportunity to come
off Mike and I know you have plenty
399
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.799
of thoughts about this because you have
a podcast network. So thanks. Yeah,
400
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.640
I just I'm fresh off of my
nap, so I'm feeling a little
401
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.839
bit better. I appreciate it.
Yeah, first of all, I agree
402
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:02.759
with everything that Angeley because laid down. I think it's I love me some
403
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.519
stingers right, but also I agree
with what Michael Said, because I do
404
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:12.279
definitely have to match the tone.
I've heard some some radio shows and podcasts
405
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.359
where the Stinger takes me completely out
of where I was. Now, sometimes
406
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.359
that's the point of the Stinger,
is to take you out of where you
407
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.519
are so you can start into where
your they need you to go. But
408
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.400
there are times when it's nothing is
changed. It just seems like there's a
409
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.039
random Stinger and then the conversation continues. I'm like, what was what was
410
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.680
that for now that was my early
times and I've learned since and that a
411
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:40.839
lot of times that's for dynamic add
insertion. But but yeah, but for
412
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.640
me and I don't I don't deal
with that. HAVE AD insertion. So
413
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.119
I don't have any of that,
but it always, it always seems staring.
414
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.119
I love me some stingers, though, because they really can be used
415
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:59.200
to set that the soundscape of your
program and I'll use all use two examples.
416
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.160
One is Florida Man News. Now
Florida Man News. We were talking
417
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:07.559
about the show and we decided,
you know, obviously the content pretty much
418
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.960
rights itself, right, like we
don't have to go make up stories.
419
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:15.440
They're great normal stories. Yeah,
it's so. What we decided was he
420
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.359
was going to deadpan his delivery and
make the jokes just be funny and lands
421
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.880
kind of Anchorman Style and so and
then we're like, okay, well,
422
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.160
let's make it a full on like
a news program. So we decided to
423
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:36.079
have stingers that were very obnoxiously newsy
and it fits in so well and it
424
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.480
does what I just to Angeli's point, it does break it up. It
425
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.279
actually, when you were saying that
at League, I thought about last night.
426
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:47.680
I was watching my son. Are
Watching men in black, and when
427
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.440
we started I knew we only had
about an hour left for his bedtime,
428
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.240
right. So, but because of
commercial breaks that were in the show the
429
00:33:55.240 --> 00:34:01.000
recording, he was able to get
out one more segment for Mommy. But
430
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.880
that's the that's what the reason to
maybe think about that is because when people
431
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.719
are listening to a segment did show, you're right Ed to like they're Buch.
432
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.119
Were likely to listen to ten one
minute programs in ten minute program but
433
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.440
if on the counter, obviously the
show is how long it is. But
434
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.119
if they're a listener, they know
that it was the show. I can
435
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.760
I can pick up five minutes of
it, come back, I can do
436
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:28.000
another five minutes of it if I
need to, and and it encourages people
437
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.280
to keep tapping into us. I
of I'd love me some stingers when they're
438
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:36.480
as well. And the other example
I'll use is one of the first shows
439
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.519
that I really played with with this
kind of thing, and that was finding
440
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:45.480
Florida. So finding Florida. Before
each travel adventure episode, which we that
441
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.599
was a show for anybody's not familiar
as a show would be too, did
442
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.320
took the show on the road,
went some place different every month in Florida
443
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.039
and did some crazy stuff. So, but we had a preview episode leading
444
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.239
up to that where we would the
first half food gives some info, some
445
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.039
fun stuff abouut the the place we're
going to. But then the back half
446
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:06.679
is where I really played, and
what I did was we're like five or
447
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:13.039
six general Florida segments, so you
rotated in just for comedic purposes, and
448
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.760
one of them, as an example, would be Florida foods and feel goods
449
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.360
and was about like a drink recipe
or some cool thing that you know,
450
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:25.559
key lime pies or whatever. Sometimes
was a Florida man type story or one
451
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.440
was called Florida man or not,
and I had to have get Glenn.
452
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.480
Yes, is the story with truth, Florida or not we eat. Each
453
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:38.360
of these segments had its own distinct
Stinger and we pulled what we do was
454
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:44.119
you pulled a music bed from audio
blocks or story blocks and then added in
455
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.000
some additional sound effects to make it
more unique. But reason I love that
456
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:51.639
is because, as a listener,
I'm always thinking about things from listeners perspective
457
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:57.840
andcourage everybody to do the same as
a listener. When you hear that that
458
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.719
the homer Simpson don't end the music
that goes under it, you know it's
459
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:07.199
a floor. To me a segment. When you hear this guy, God's
460
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.559
good here the clinking of ice glasses, you know you're about to hear a
461
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:14.199
floorda foods and feel good segments.
You know what's coming up. There's something
462
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.400
to be said about setting that talent
and bringing people on that journey and getting
463
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.000
them excited, knowing they're like,
oh, I was coming next to me,
464
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.440
was coming next and he that feeling
almost can't be bought and I love
465
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:29.480
being able to manufactor that feeling through
a good Stinger. I complete absolutely a
466
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.920
hundred percent. Well, yeah,
I agree. And here's the thing that
467
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.639
I think that if we pay attention
to ourselves as consumers, and this is
468
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.760
what I do when I'm consuming whatever, youtube channels or TV, Shark tank
469
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:47.159
or Mr Best, it doesn't matter, there is that expectation, there is
470
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.679
that familiality or whatever, how do
we say it? Like I'm familiar with
471
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.000
your show, I know what's going
to happen, and that's probably eighty percent
472
00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:00.000
of most shows that I watch.
And then there's that or maybe even ninety
473
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.840
percent, and then there's that like
ten percent, like shock factor. I
474
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.840
go I didn't see that coming,
or you know or whatever, and I
475
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.599
think sometimes I see content creators really
try to go for that shock factor all
476
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:15.440
the time or, you know,
like super high or whatever, and bring
477
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.039
that, you know, that super
crazy energy to the whole entire production and
478
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.440
then it's just like tiring. And
that's what I kind of like you know
479
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.639
about. You know, you're watching
shark tank or whatever, maybe see these
480
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.280
highlights. I mean you just know
what's going to happen and you can almost
481
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:34.119
tell by the conversations that they're having
and how they talk. Now they communicate.
482
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:35.960
You're like, Oh, I know
this person's not going to get a
483
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:37.880
deal or they're going to get a
deal. But then when that person where
484
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.039
you're like they just totally can this
pitch, they're not getting anything, and
485
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.159
then they get like this huge deal, you're like, holy cow, I
486
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.840
didn't see that. And a lot
of that probably is just the you know
487
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.199
these and I'm using shark tank as
example. Maybe it's horrible, but but
488
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.960
that might just be the delivery of
the personality. But it really comes down
489
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.400
to the editing of the show.
It really comes down to the production of
490
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:01.880
the show and producers pulling these bits
and putting them together in a certain way
491
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:07.159
to create this story. And I
think that's the cool thing about segments and
492
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:08.559
having, you know, first of
all, having to show format, like
493
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:13.000
knowing what you want to accomplish with
the show, but then having segments so
494
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.280
you can go and you can craft
this entire story around what it is that
495
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:22.800
you're creating. So love that really. Guess what I just got asked to
496
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.400
do and I had a call about
it yesterday. I just got just just
497
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:32.280
gonna call to moderate a panel.
It podcast called black women in sound design
498
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.639
and it's going to be all about
this kind of stuff, how you create
499
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:43.360
sound spaces and experiences and it's it's
a black women. Well, unfortunately,
500
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.280
I'm I'm unable to attend because I'm
busy moving that week, but I have
501
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.960
time producing Jimmy's. Really, I'm
getting that was that was a saught.
502
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:53.440
I know that was a soft lead
into an invite to be a part of
503
00:38:53.480 --> 00:39:01.119
your panel, but I'm still that
sounds yeah, I'm totally qualified on all
504
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.159
stances. All right, so I
want to fasten my get over to Steve
505
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.800
and he's been on the stage for
a minute here on cold house. So,
506
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.920
Steven, feel free to on mute
and share some thoughts about the conversation.
507
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.840
Okay, there it is. My
share. You Go. My screen
508
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.599
was locked for some reason. But
yeah, Billy, thanks for having me
509
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.039
on and Gemma, always good to
see you. It's a pleasure to hear
510
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:36.800
your your voice and your laugh always
makes me smile. Yeah, I have
511
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.320
been in this podcast game for a
minute. I'm a stand up comedian and
512
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:49.199
a filmmaker. I write and produce
and I also do outdoor film festivals with
513
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.599
pop up drive in movie theaters.
So when I first got into the PODCAST
514
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:58.840
game was at the John Lovetts podcast
theater in universal city walk, and I
515
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:04.079
was kind of blown a away with
the how they did it because before I
516
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:10.440
went into that theater of the podcast
basically was done on an actual ipod and
517
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.679
that's what it was. And in
John lovetts decided to make a theater and
518
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:21.480
do the podcast on a live stage
and from front of a live audience with
519
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.760
celebrity comedians and guests and and there
was like a stand up component that came
520
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.679
with it, and it was all
these really cool things and I I'm like,
521
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.199
I that's something that I have to
do. And John Lovett was coined
522
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.159
as the Podfather, which is how
I came up with my podcast name,
523
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:44.760
a pod brother, and I've been
a pod brother ever since. And and
524
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.719
I launched my own network called pod
brother nation, and I do that through
525
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:58.440
a live stream broadcast platform called bots
cast. And and I don't recommend this,
526
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.519
but I'm kind of all over the
place. I am very, very,
527
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:08.840
very fragmented with what I'm doing and
since I've got box cast, I've
528
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.000
been able to kind of hone these
different segments into an actual channel within my
529
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:19.639
channel, because they have a feature
that allows me to do that. But
530
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.239
because I'm a standup comic, I
have a lot of comedians that like,
531
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.440
Oh, you know, I want
to come on your show. Let's chop
532
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:28.559
it up with comedy, and then
I have filmmakers that be like, Oh,
533
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.440
let's talk film, and then actors
are like, let's talk acting,
534
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:37.000
and then you know. So I
run in all these different circles and I
535
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.159
love them all. So when you
kind of look at my podcast, it's
536
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.679
kind of like I'm all over the
place with so many different types of shows.
537
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.440
I go to Innab and I was
able to get my hands on a
538
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.599
a channel video switcher, which rolling
makes, and then and then I also
539
00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:01.000
do sound for film. So I
have a six channel sound device, a
540
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:06.199
six four sound device for capturing sound
from movies. So you know, I'm
541
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.360
not sound guy with the boom,
you know, hanging over the actors.
542
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:14.199
So I have a lot of amazing
gear and with that gear I'm able to
543
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:20.400
have the Steve and I think you
if you dropped into the Matrix. Yeah,
544
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.599
I have ability to do different types
of shows. So so some of
545
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:30.400
my shows will be, you know, like I'll have a channel video switcher,
546
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:37.360
and then some will be just like
an audio interview. So yeah,
547
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.440
I think we keep losing. You
know, I'm at sorry, I don't
548
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.880
know, fear I got, I
got, I got, people are calling
549
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.920
me. So it's that's all.
We're important guy. I'm in. You're
550
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.920
important guy. Perfect time fails.
No one calls until you're on stage,
551
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.920
and what R on stage, everybody
calls you. It's a right min time.
552
00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.360
But yeah, you know, it's
one of these things where I'm learning
553
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:06.719
a lot. Dude, whoever sign
to call you really wants to get a
554
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:08.280
hold of you. So I'm going
to I'm a pause you right there,
555
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.280
man. I'm going to let you
take your phone call if you need to.
556
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:16.280
I love that you are using your
podcast in a multifaceted, you know,
557
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:20.679
production way and kind of switching it
up. You know I'm more of
558
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:24.360
a niche style podcaster, but are
trying to be anyway. But I definitely
559
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:30.280
love that you're bringing all of your
your creative ecosystem into there and it's even
560
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.239
I'll invite you, if you can
still hear me, I'll invite you to
561
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.840
be a part of creating daily,
a live show, to kind of dive
562
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:38.639
more into that at some point.
So that'd be Super Fun to have you
563
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.960
on. Yeah, I would love
to. That would be that would be
564
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.760
awesome cool. All right, man, we'll appreciate you jumping in and I
565
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.920
want to pass the Mike over and
probably going to be my last. Well,
566
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.719
depends on the conversation. But KNIE, what's up? Man, you've
567
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.360
made it on creating daily. I
know you've been waiting for this moment forever,
568
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:04.599
so welcome. If it's listing.
That is my signal is bad too,
569
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:06.960
because I got ever read, but
I don't think you guys can give
570
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.440
to get. Yeah, it's a
little. It's okay. Yeah, you
571
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.280
can keep talking. We can hear
you. Okay, now I just Goin
572
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.280
to hang out with you guys to
got what it topic was about contens of
573
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:23.079
podcasting, and that was it,
though. I didn't know it was your
574
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:27.079
show. Oh Yeah, dude,
you're fine. No, yeah, so
575
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.119
we're live. We're live all of
the place and on creating daily. Because
576
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:36.159
so this is our our weekly round
table sort just kind of have a round
577
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.800
table discussion about formats and segments for
shows and a lot of good stuff,
578
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.719
man, a lot of good information. So hopefully, if if you're a
579
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.559
podcast live streamer or you're working your
way into being a podcast or a live
580
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.719
streamer, you can take some really
good, you know, content away from
581
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.880
this this episode, because I think
there's some really great ideas and one thing
582
00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:00.079
that I've seen is there's not one
you know, there's not one shoe fits
583
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.119
everyone. Not, not everyone's doing
the same thing. You know, you
584
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.159
heard price, six, seven,
eight different people today talking about different,
585
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.880
you know, concepts, different segments, different things that they've tried, different
586
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.639
things that they've done, and and
so throw some mud on the wall and
587
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.840
get it, you know, see
what happens. So you can do so
588
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.480
that is that is it for the
round table. I really appreciate Dominic Michael
589
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:29.159
said earlier. Producer, Jimmy,
Angelique Stevenne. Think you guys so much
590
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:31.159
for coming up on the stage,
being a part of creating daily. So
591
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:35.719
you can actually watch this on youtube
or you can watch on guild or bullhorn.
592
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.400
FACEBOOK linkedin all the places that you
can watch it, and I have
593
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.519
I have our phone screen up there, so you'll see all your little avatars
594
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:45.920
hanging out out there and feel free
to share the show as well. And
595
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:50.559
so really appreciate that. And we'll
do this probably once a week. Maybe
596
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.480
we may do it exclusively on one
platform or the other, so it's not
597
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:58.480
like I'm wrangling cats and comments and
all this kind of stuff. But really
598
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:02.480
appreciate all your thoughts, you know, toward this topic and this is great
599
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:07.440
because I had a whole backup plan
going if this didn't work out. So
600
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.280
I really appreciate all you guys jumping
up here, for sure, and anybody
601
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.679
else that raise your hand and couldn't
come up. Appreciate you being a part
602
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:16.880
of the room and in a part
of the show. So that is it
603
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:22.519
for the Creator Round Table Portion of
the show and I really appreciate everyone jumping
604
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.719
in everyone being a part of creating
daily. We are daily live show.
605
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.159
We're going to live two pm every
Monday through Friday. I am taking a
606
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.320
little time off at the end of
May because I'm moving from Puerto Rico back
607
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:38.119
to North Carolina, so the week
of the twenty four through the first of
608
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.360
June. So I'll be back tune. First, however, I'll be back
609
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.119
tomorrow to talk about how do you
level up your lot? How do you
610
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:51.000
level up your audio without spending all
the cash in your bank account? I
611
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.480
know sometimes you will get into some
audio conversations and it'll be like, oh,
612
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.400
how do we do? You know
this all you got to go buy
613
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.079
a six hundred road cast. You
get to give my four hundred. You
614
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.159
know, sures, mxvb, and
it's just not really true. It's not
615
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.719
true at all. And you can
get some really great quality audio from different
616
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.280
devices. So we're going to get
shop in tomorrow, so join me.
617
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.760
I'm going to be on Amazon.
I'm going to be sharing some stuff and
618
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.480
kind of going through some of the
gear that I've used over the last few
619
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.760
years and really show you how I've
went, you know, from one piece
620
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.280
of gear to the next and the
next and the next, and and maybe
621
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.639
how you can do that as well. That's a good strategy for you.
622
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:31.199
So that is going to be tomorrow
at two PM. Right here on creating
623
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.880
daily, and you can go check
that out and we'll see you guys tomorrow
