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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:06.040 Now here's something we can really like. You're listening to creating daily. There's 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:09.199 something wrong with you. You know that because you and I are like a 3 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:12.880 mullets. It is the is the business. So he's the front part of 4 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:25.640 the haircut and then I'm what is up? Everybody? Welcome to another episode 5 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:29.000 of creating daily. I'm your host, Billy Thorpe. In today's show is 6 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.840 gonna be so much fun. It's Friday, everybody's excited and it's gonna be 7 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:35.679 a really fun show. I get my friend, producer Jimmy, coming on 8 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:39.359 here in a few minutes to talk about launching your podcast. So if you've 9 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:42.280 probably been, like a lot of people, are a lot of creatives, 10 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:45.520 stuck in your brain about getting your podcasts out there, we're going to go 11 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:49.200 through some processes of how you can boost it but, more importantly, how 12 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:51.000 can you get in touch with her so she can help you boost it, 13 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:53.359 so she can help you do all the work and come up with the ideas 14 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:55.920 and all that fun stuff. So we're going to get into it, but 15 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.920 before we do I want to say hello first of all to my friend Kevin, 16 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:03.640 who jumped over on, I think on Linkedin to say hello so appreciate 17 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:04.840 that the chat is near. You. Feel free to say hello in a 18 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:10.280 chat next to you. Also, you can see on the screen that there 19 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:12.400 is a buy me a coffee link right here. I think it's a widget. 20 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:15.000 I think it worked. If you click on it, somebody should try 21 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:18.519 go buy me a cup of coffee. And this is a cool way to 22 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:23.200 support supporters, or creators rather, in a cool way to support your Creator 23 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.200 friends. And if you don't have a buy me coffeecom or buy me coffee 24 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.599 set up, you should and figure out to implement it into your content to 25 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:34.599 allow all your fit friends, family, grandma in people who like your stuff 26 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:37.879 to buy you a cup of coffee. All right. So now, as 27 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.280 always, we got some other stuff to do before we bring up producer Jimmy. 28 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:45.640 So let's get into it. Creator highlights. New Cooking necessary and new 29 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.560 assembly required. It's got to be funk all right, it is going to 30 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.840 be funky. This today's creator highlight is brought to you by my friends over 31 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.920 at one sheet pro. If you don't have a onheet, you should, 32 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:01.040 because they are awesome and it's going to take your little boring PDF, one 33 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.560 sheet that you're trying to get booked on other shows and all that kind of 34 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.239 fun stuff. It's going to spruce it up, make it Nice, easy 35 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:12.240 to share, easy to get booked and show up professionally. So go check 36 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:15.520 that out. And they also just launched an auto affiliate program so when you 37 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:20.319 share your one sheet, if people click on and they go buy a pro 38 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.120 version, you can get paid off of that. Actually, I'm proud to 39 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:27.439 announce that yesterday I was a first person since they relaunched the program to get 40 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.840 an affiliate commission off of it, because I've been out here on these streets 41 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:32.280 just selling the crap out of it, not really selling it. But you 42 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:36.039 know, I think it's awesome, it's great tool and I only promote what 43 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:39.840 I love. So today's creator that I'm highlighting is my friend Helen Garcia. 44 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:45.360 She has a new podcast called brains create, and so it basically combines mental 45 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:51.319 health and creativity for entrepreneurs and media and in the music business. So congratulation. 46 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:55.159 Telling really always enjoy your podcast that you do, and this isn't her 47 00:02:55.199 --> 00:03:00.159 first podcast, so very cool that she has created another one. And now 48 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:06.879 we got a little bit of news. That's news to me. Creating daily 49 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.800 all right, so today's news is pretty crazy. I just saw this come 50 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:16.479 into my inbox from an inside resource. Yeah, I got inside swords is 51 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:20.439 okay, I'm pretty important, just so you guys knowing the podcasting world. 52 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.120 Not as important as producer Jimmy. It's coming on a few moments, but 53 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.639 I'm pretty important. So I get this. Inside scooped that road. Yes, 54 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:30.039 road, as in the road caster company, not only has announced their 55 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.280 new headphones I talked about yesterday, but they're going to come out with the 56 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:37.080 new addition of the road caster pro this year. I'm really excited. I 57 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:38.919 hope it is very similar to the mix cast pro, for I hope has 58 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:43.120 some different inputs and all that kind of stuff. Is that it does and 59 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:46.319 weren't on the street is going to have stereo out and it's also going to 60 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.800 have those dual input options. And who knows, maybe they'll remember the bluetoo 61 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.759 channel. All right, well, I'm a bad liar, Gotcha. I 62 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.639 know some audio files are over there just clicking away their keyboard trying to figure 63 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.479 out why didn't I learn about this April fools full that ain't really coming out, 64 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:04.039 I don't know, not this year anyway, maybe some other year. 65 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:08.199 But anyway, that's my April fools joke. Take it to leave it, 66 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:12.120 it is what it is. And now I just blew through the first bar 67 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.719 of the show because I'm real excited to get to my friend, producer Jimmy, 68 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:16.920 and I want you to think about producer Jimmy as really like the turtle 69 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:21.639 man of podcasting, like she's live action, super amounts of fun. She's 70 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:26.639 from Florida, so maybe we should nickname her Florida ma'am, not Florida man, 71 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.480 but Florida Ma'am. Anyway, I'm going to shut up with all the 72 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.040 bad joe looks on meet her channel and I'm going to say hello, producer 73 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:36.680 Jimmy. How are you? I'm great. Could I just tell you you 74 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:42.040 just broke so many broadcaster pro hearts. Of It it ago. He's just 75 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.920 got some moll pumped up. And why? Why? A prol fool this 76 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.480 in a couplet. Great. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. 77 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:54.759 Thank you so much for jumping on and joining in doing all the fun 78 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.439 stuff that we're going to do, and thank you everybody for jumping on club 79 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.800 house and chatting. Where we chatting? I see my friends Kevin and Mikey 80 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:04.160 Hayes jumping on as well, so I'm doing good. How's everything there in 81 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:09.800 Florida? Everything is bright and shiny. We're having extremely good weather today. 82 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:13.560 WHO NOT TOO hot? Also a plus. And I just want to say 83 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.600 for everybody who is on a clubhouse, y'all are experiencing what I've often experienced, 84 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:20.000 which is you're hearing me through billy's face. Oh wait a second, 85 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:24.519 I used to think other people through billy's face and it's so funny. So 86 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:29.319 I'm excited to be here looking for today's chat, talking about podcast launching and 87 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.360 all the good things that you can do with the podcast and how there's a 88 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.199 lot to it but doesn't have to be scary or intimidating. So yeah, 89 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:39.959 excited to dive in. And nobody heard anything you said on clubhouse because I 90 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:47.160 forgot to plug it in. Billy, billy, billy, billy, tech 91 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:51.040 fail. Wo Wow. Okay, you know what said, R it's live. 92 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:55.000 I mean this is one live action. We're turtle people over here. 93 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:59.319 Okay, live actions. So anyway, what you know what? Something's always 94 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:01.800 going to mess up. Doesn't matter. So's it's going to be me messing 95 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.560 it up. Has To be no, anyway, no worries, they hear 96 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.959 you now. I want to keep I'm really quick. I want to give 97 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:13.000 you props because you actually are really, really, really, really good at 98 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.079 content creation. Your excellent hairs. They just wanted to give you your props 99 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:17.480 because you deserve it, man, you really deserve it. Oh, I 100 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:21.319 appreciate I don't know if I'm an excellent host, but I'm getting better. 101 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.560 It's kind of like riding the bike, you know, the first content, 102 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.279 first couple times to you just fall and rip your face off and then you're 103 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:29.759 like yeah, all right, I got to do better next time. So 104 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.160 I'm I mean that, learning that. Yeah, you can only rip it 105 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:38.639 off a couple times and then you just don't have a face anymore. Oh 106 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:41.480 Man. So so let's talk about it, because I think a lot of 107 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:45.600 people do think launching their podcast is very intimidating. You know, I think 108 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.639 it is one of those things of like, you know, I got something 109 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.680 to say, I'm really excited, but I just don't know how to put 110 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:56.199 it together. In I am not very good at launching podcast, I will 111 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.079 admit. Typically, I'm like inspired, I have an idea and three hours 112 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.560 later I got a trailer and four hours later I got two episodes and and 113 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.000 then my wife is like what are you doing? And I'm like, I 114 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:08.000 don't know, I'm starting something new. So kind of take us through the 115 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.560 process of, you know, maybe like a pre show process of you know, 116 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:13.879 because I think people run out, they buy equipment, they buy this, 117 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:15.959 they buy lights and cameras and all this fun stuff. Yeah, but 118 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.279 then they're like, oh, I spend all this money, now I don't 119 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:21.079 know what to do. So how do you coach your clients on kind of 120 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:27.800 a pre launch process? Yeah, and when in clients come to me and 121 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.800 they've already bought all the shiny things, I'm like, a minute, slow 122 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.800 that down. Probably don't you have that stuff. So essentially, if you're 123 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:39.399 launching a podcast, think of it like there's a there's a train of car, 124 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.040 a car train, right, and there's certain things that have to be 125 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:47.040 done in a proper order in order to maximize effect and minimize your budget. 126 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:49.920 And so what I recommend is, first of all, you need to know 127 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:53.240 what your show going to be about. It. So it's not so simple, 128 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:56.879 right. Okay, my say I want to do a show about adopting 129 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.519 dogs. Fine, that's great, but there's so much more you need to 130 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:03.959 think about and think through. So one of the first steps that I bring 131 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.680 my my clients through, and actually will share this as mine, as a 132 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.959 really good piece of advice that I want everyone to consider, because they often 133 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.600 think about, you know, what's your why? Why are you doing the 134 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.240 show? That has to be the first thing you think about. But it's 135 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:24.199 a little more complicated than that. I think about it in two sides and 136 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.879 you need to have both of those sides answered in order to know what kind 137 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.759 of show you're going to put together and how to best deliver on those and 138 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:35.039 those two sides are the why for your audience and then there's the why for 139 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:39.080 yourself, and those can be very, very different, and they probably are 140 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.720 very, very different. And so I walk through what I call my class 141 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.039 of what I call my mirror exercise, and I asked them to hold up 142 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.799 a mirror and then face it out to the audience. Usually this is the 143 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.759 easiest part because when they face out the audience, I'm asking them, what 144 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.120 do you want the show to do for them? And they go like they 145 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.559 know, I want it to inspire them to do this. I want to 146 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.440 educate them on this. I want to make them laugh. I want to 147 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:07.039 get right. Then we get to the second part of the mirror exercise. 148 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:11.919 That's when it can sometimes get a little uncomfortable, because then I have them 149 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.879 pretend that they're facing it the mirror themselves, and when I ask them what 150 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:18.600 do you want to do, the show to do for you? Oftentimes, 151 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.720 not always, but oftentimes, podcasters are podcasts because they want to give, 152 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.960 give, give, give, give, spread a message, make a movement, 153 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:31.600 deliver an impact. They're not doing it to put a spotlight on them. 154 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.240 But I tell them our mind them it is okay to put a spotlight 155 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.240 on you and if that's what you want, you need to express that. 156 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.279 Let's have that as part of the conversation. I need to know that. 157 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:46.120 So the spotlight on them. The why for yourself, if you're thinking about 158 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.799 this, for your own shown love this. Yeah, can be anything from 159 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:54.960 monetizing. I want to make some money or at least defray the US of 160 00:09:54.080 --> 00:10:00.080 production if I'm outsourcing right. I want to become a public speaker, I 161 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.279 want to sell more books, I want to become known in this industry or 162 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:07.879 break into this industry and network in this industry. So there's so many different 163 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.759 reasons why somebody can personally want to do this. It could be to grow 164 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.559 to be a lead generation generator for their own business. So whatever those reasons 165 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:20.759 are, you need to know what those are, because both of those sides 166 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:26.799 of the coin are going to formulate how to structure your show, because if 167 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.919 you have that as the intention, it can't just be about just the interview. 168 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.240 It has to be okay, the interview, and what is the point 169 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.960 of that interview? Is this person actually going to come on and give the 170 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.679 value that I'm promising this by audience that they're going to give? And if, 171 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.879 by doing this interview, is it going to add to my footprint in 172 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.440 this podcast and he'll elevate me to my own goals? So all of that 173 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.519 needs to be take to just step one, absolutely step one, knowing your 174 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.919 why, but recognize that there's two sides to it. Yeah, I love 175 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.759 that, you know. Yeah, look, we'll take it. Will take 176 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:05.679 a little pause here because I just want to say, like, I love 177 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.279 the the two side of thing, because I think you're right. It's often 178 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.039 in my experience, and I say my experience for me as a content creator, 179 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:18.559 I am either Super Selfish, going okay, I'm looking in the mirror. 180 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.159 What is this? What is this going to do for me? How, 181 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.720 you know, whatever, or right now, or I'm the other part 182 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.440 that's like I don't want anything to you know, to come out of there 183 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.320 or not that I don't want anything, but my expectations aren't there because it 184 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.519 maybe that is from a bunch of insecurities, maybe that's from like imposter syndrome, 185 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.360 maybe it's from not knowing how to do something whatever, but it's like 186 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.960 I'm just going to give, to give and I don't expect anything in return. 187 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.879 And I'm with you. I think it's going to be somewhere that balance, 188 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:50.279 in the middle where, because it's gonna it's going to be word. 189 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.679 I mean, I can't tell you. You know, I help podcasters make 190 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:58.039 money with their show, with small audiences, and I cannot tell you how 191 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.519 many times that they are just like yeah, sort of, this podcast is 192 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.000 so fun and I realize, like this is a lot of freaking work and 193 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.159 now I need to get bade for my time. So, if you're listening 194 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.960 to this or you're watching it, do this, figure that too. I 195 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.000 love that to set a meriting and that is I'm still in that I'm going 196 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:18.480 to share that for the real way will steal away, especially because it's you 197 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.440 know, when you're talking about why you're doing the show, is for your 198 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:26.440 mission, the message that you want to give. That can be extremely motivating, 199 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.240 but because there's a lot of work that goes into it, you need 200 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.279 to also remember an eye as a producer. Need to remember why my client 201 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.480 is wants to do it for themselves in order to keep that motivated motivation going. 202 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.039 So if they're if they're feeling a little bit unsure of what the next 203 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.840 step is of their show, I say, let's bring it back to goal. 204 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.519 You said you wanted to speak at a conference. Let's talk about that, 205 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.879 how we can incorporate those opportunities into your show. Or you wanted to 206 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.480 talk about expanding your community or cherishing your community, growing your community. Okay, 207 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.480 let's talk about strategies that might be able to bring in your community into 208 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.320 the show and let's do things like that. So if I need to know 209 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.919 their why on all sides in order to best address any issues that come up, 210 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.679 whether it's having difficulty reaching goals or feeling like they might want to pod 211 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:16.759 fade, the dreaded pod fade. So all of that is extremely important and 212 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.159 I'm the producer in the situation, so that's my job. But if you're 213 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.320 self sufficient and your Solo podcaster, then you need to make sure that you 214 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.919 keep that in mind and revisit it regularly. Good. Yeah, so, 215 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.720 okay, that was going to be my next question for you, because this 216 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.200 often happens to me a lot because I'm I'm I'm just moving, I'm throwing 217 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.759 mud on the wall and enjoy the starting process. I love the starting press. 218 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:43.279 I Love, Love, love the starting process. That, that brain 219 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.720 thing, that getting into the mud and figuring this thing out, is like 220 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:50.559 my favorite part. So I often go back to my why, and I've 221 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.440 done this several times, even with podcasting for money, creating for money and 222 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.559 now creating daily, and I just had to give myself permission to change that 223 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.320 why because it would change over time and I'd be quite a second. I'm 224 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.639 focus too much on this. So is that okay? You know from a 225 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:07.320 from your I mean, and you've been in this, you know, for 226 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.200 a while. We haven't got into it, but you've been in there for 227 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:15.200 seven years. You've edited over twozero episodes, you've have launched dozens of shows 228 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.039 and so anybody, I know you're probably the most experienced person, like, 229 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:22.159 how often can I change my why? What's the rule? Is there? 230 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:28.519 Yes, I absolutely your why should evolve. Ideally, when you start a 231 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.399 podcast, you're starting it from a certain point, but you have a goal, 232 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:39.320 of vision, of another destination. So you have to evolve in order 233 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:43.159 to get from point a to point seen. And so not only should you 234 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.559 evolve as a human and allow that to be brought into your show, but 235 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:50.960 then what? What's an amazing what is amazing is how much I've seen the 236 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:56.360 podcast that people are working on. That experience changes them. So go along 237 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:00.960 for that ride and be open to evolution. Now that it's funny. We 238 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.360 actually just talked about this Glenn and Glenn the Geek Horse Ray to neck network 239 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.000 and I just talked about this on our recent episode. We talked about can 240 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:11.399 you change whence you've started? And well, it's funny because he asked me's 241 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.799 like what's the number one rule of podcasting it? I said be consistent, 242 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.200 because I doe where he was going right out, juck around, because it 243 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.840 was because you got it, because it's a it's true. And he's like, 244 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.440 he's like he's like no. The number one rule is there are no 245 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.519 rules, and it's so true. You know so yet to be consistent, 246 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.240 but that doesn't mean that you can't change and evolved, as long as it's 247 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.720 done with intention and you bring your audience along the journey with you. In 248 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:37.639 fact, there's another mantra in podcasting. People come for the content, but 249 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.440 they say for the host. So let people fall in love with you, 250 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.879 and then includes opening them up to your journey and bringing them with you. 251 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:50.720 My very first podcast, curve the cube, I started off I was not 252 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:54.240 an expert whatsoever. I was asked, I was I was curious and I 253 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.759 was asking a lot of people about how do you do what you love for 254 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:00.080 living? So I had no idea how to make that happen and I just 255 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.679 so I was I was just like, Oh my God, here's a microphone, 256 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.679 please do you do it. But over time, when out of happening, 257 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.440 it is. I only did I fall in love with the art and 258 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:14.320 craft of podcasting, but I thought, I decided that's what I wanted, 259 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.759 you for living. I knew this was my passion. I wanted dispute what 260 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:25.159 it so that show ended up becoming the story of my own evolution over the 261 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:26.840 course of it, the two and a half years that I did that show. 262 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.840 So it did evolve over time. About a year plus into it I 263 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:34.559 ended up additating in an extra segment called I called it the learning curve. 264 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.279 So I took what the conversation we had, I'd have with my guest, 265 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:42.320 what's the main takeaway, and I unpacked it and I gave I gave tools 266 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:47.240 and tips to people. So I went from being nothing but a sponge to 267 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:49.919 now it's like almost professor's assistant and I was like I kind of I can 268 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:52.919 start to like pull some things apart and start to like teach people a little 269 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:57.600 bit. And now and that show lived its life and it was exactly what 270 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:02.600 it needs to be and the show that I'm doing now is a separate show, 271 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:06.319 but now it's about teaching people from my own perspective. But going back 272 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:10.319 to curve, the Cube, it was a journey, but between just completely 273 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:15.079 blank slate sponge through all I'm really learning something and now I can impart that 274 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.400 information on to others and the community to get formed from that, and everything 275 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.319 was phenomenal. So yes, you can change. That means anything from the 276 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:26.000 format, changing the name. Yes, such a propos I said change the 277 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:27.720 day. You can change a show already. Could do all of that. 278 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:32.160 What, Oh my God, I got to be St Hug and take your 279 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.359 audience along with you. Let them know. Don't make it make it a 280 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:37.359 jarring change, but let them know. Yeah, yeah, if you have 281 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.440 a podcast about podcasting or business, don't change it to a shoe podcast. 282 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:45.200 Sorry, guys, you're looking weird, but I'd be a little weird. 283 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.920 I mean, listen, if you're if your podcast is about the retail industry 284 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.000 and you wanted to put it down into talking about sneaker industry and retail. 285 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.880 But that's okay, makes sense. But yeah, if you're doing a fishing 286 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:03.160 show, if you want to start kick up about sneakers, might need to 287 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.720 reconsider changing. You know, just started job. Yeah, I love the 288 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.599 I love this conversation because I think this is the biggest thing that I that 289 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:14.160 I see when I'm working with people and they're like I want to start a 290 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:15.960 podcasting like and they're like what microphone should I get? I'm like, Whoa, 291 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.519 Whoa, whoa. We're that's like step for like you were. Hold 292 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.039 on, like what do you why? Why do you want to start a 293 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:23.359 podcast. What do you want to do? So I love that you're reinforcing 294 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.559 this. I love the double side of Merathing. My Gosh, it's so 295 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.680 great, such a great exercise. And then also it's like, you know, 296 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:34.599 if you're in that moment in your creat because we're creators, were changing. 297 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:37.039 You know, I talked to a creator friend of mine last night because 298 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.240 we were talking about the show and and I've been like getting people's feedback on 299 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:42.960 creating daily and and I was like, you know, I'm just thinking about 300 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:45.920 some different segments for different days and all this kind of stuff, and they're 301 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.559 like cool, man, change is good. That's what makes you a creator, 302 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.119 is change, and so I think that is okay. So I think 303 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.960 for people listening or watching, there like even if they come to producer Jimmy 304 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:00.039 and you and you hire her and she's helping you launch your podcast and you 305 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:02.599 say week one, this is what I want to do in the week two, 306 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:04.000 you're like, wait a second, I really thought about it. Go 307 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.400 with your gut. This is what I've noticed. Go with your gut and 308 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:12.920 start creating the content that you want and that your audience wants. So say 309 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.000 one more note on that. If you don't mind. One more note, 310 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.720 just because I'm super inspired, and this is not just about podcasting, is 311 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.680 about creative endeavors whatsoever. But this painting that's over my shoulder, who actually 312 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.079 pointed the right direction, sort of, almost anyways, that is painted by 313 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:32.799 my name, Jason Jaffra, and Jaffela and I met fifteen years ago. 314 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.640 Maybe we did open MIC nights, right. so He's been creative with the 315 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:41.279 spoken word but also with painting, and over time I've seen him evolve and 316 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.640 about a year and a half ago I saw interesting facebook post from him where 317 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:49.799 he teach announced that he or shared that he was starting to try out animation. 318 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:52.559 Had No idea what he was doing or where he was going, but 319 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.480 just decide to try out. Can I also tell you that he just got 320 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:02.440 nominated for an NAB ACP Image Award for his animation? You never go where 321 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.960 evolution's going to take you, so don't be afraid of it. I love 322 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:07.400 it. I think that's I love it. I love it. I think 323 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:12.640 the the pivot, the evolution, the learning in often creators. I'm not 324 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.400 a creators. Basically, have brow on the show so far multihipe, and 325 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.000 not one person do I know. It's just like this is what I do. 326 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:22.240 It's like, yeah, you're a creator, your creative. That's how 327 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:25.000 we were created, is to be creative. So it's like we can do 328 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:30.279 whatever it is that our little hearts desire and if it fails, it didn't 329 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.960 really fail, you just learned something. So we talked about the why. 330 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.200 So this is kind of step one, like really be and I would say 331 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.759 one more thing about this that I had to do for myself, and this 332 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.799 was really when I was transitioning from the t shirt printing business to podcasting and, 333 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:47.319 you know, live streaming and do all this multi media stuff, was 334 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:49.519 I had to be really honest with myself what I wanted to do, and 335 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:52.880 not just honest with other people and honest with the with the why, but 336 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:59.200 to really say, okay, this might sound ridiculous to everyone else in the 337 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.480 world, but I want to get paid to create content, like I want 338 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:04.720 to be a content creator. And I think you got to do that and 339 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.400 I think you got to say it out loud to the people that love you 340 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.960 and know you and you can trust to hold you accountable and then to remind 341 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.720 you of those things. And sometimes we pay for those people to be in 342 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.640 our lives. Sometimes they're just naturally there. But yeah, that was one 343 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.000 thing I just wanted to share because it is a it is big to put 344 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.039 yourself out there, even as a podcast or even if you're not doing audio 345 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.400 and or video and you're just doing audio. Is a big thing to put 346 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:32.519 your voice out there and it's a very vulnerable spot. So I love this 347 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:36.759 conversation. Thousand percent agree with that. I mean, it might not work 348 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:41.880 for everybody, but man, I completely agree with the power of a public 349 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:48.559 announcement. That you're doing right. Something more probably like Billy Jimmy. You 350 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.039 guys need to stop making public announcements, because we make them often like Oh, 351 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:53.359 get this new project, you guys want to follow me, you want 352 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:56.680 to do this, you'll check this out. So we're all yeah, between 353 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.039 the two of US is dangerous. Yeah, like, okay, all right. 354 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.200 So we kind of talked about the why. So now when we get 355 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.240 into, you know, recording and we can talk about gear, but there's 356 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.720 so many people, so many options, we won't we won't really jump into 357 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:12.119 because I really want to talk about kind of more of the other stuff. 358 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.880 But make sure you can have something for the test, can mix cast for 359 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:21.160 and I prefer the road caster pro to. That just came out. I 360 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:25.880 got leaked into my email box my adviser for all your audio files. They're 361 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:29.759 clicking and clacking right now trying to figure it out. Oh, so, 362 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.920 so how many? How many episodes? I don't want to do a trailer 363 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.920 episode. Do I want to do like ten episodes? I hear so many 364 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.279 people coach so many different way. I mean, not for one person. 365 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:42.400 So you want to do twenty episodes and I'm like, grow up. I 366 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:48.640 hear somesing a lot. Yeah, I'm at no, okay. So here's 367 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.799 the thing, especially if you're new, if this is your first podcast, 368 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.440 or especially if it's our first for into content creation period. But if it's 369 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:00.640 your first podcast, there's a lot of learning that you have to do, 370 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.960 and that's okay, it's meant to be that way. Okay, your's you're 371 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:07.079 going to feel a little bit like a baby giraffe first couple episodes. That 372 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:11.279 that is a okay all right. And and here's the thing. With your 373 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.799 first few episodes you're kind of figuring out the rhythm, you're figuring out what 374 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.720 you like, and then, as you share it with your friends and they 375 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:23.359 give you feedback, you might discover things that really didn't work for the show 376 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:26.599 or that you really wish you had put in the show. So if you 377 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:30.599 suddenly have twenty episodes, banks because you haven't launched yet and you have twenty 378 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:36.400 episodes ready to go. If you start launching them in, five episodes in, 379 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:38.000 you start getting that feedback, you're like, well, crap, there's 380 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:42.400 fifty what episodes? Just like it coming on the fire. That's bad. 381 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:45.400 Yeah, right, you don't want to do that. You know want to 382 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.240 do that. So what I read, what I recommend you do. It 383 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:52.720 is good to bank audio and get get a little ahead of yourself. You 384 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.720 know, anything you can do to reduce those pressure valves is really important. 385 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.920 Which I'll actually back up a little bit and say after we just I discussed 386 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.480 the lie with a client. I also really go through, okay, what 387 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.920 is the format, because once we understand the format, that we understand what 388 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.559 equipment and everything else that's goold goes into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 389 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.799 so I always try to make sure that they know we start we start 390 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:18.759 there first, but but once we get going, the equipment that they have, 391 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:26.559 it really can can make or break your show. Not really okay, 392 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.319 here's a secret. Here's a secret. I started off okay, it's not 393 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.319 really sick. I've shared this like a lot of times, but I set 394 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:34.920 it off. Oh my I'm on the edge of my seed. I'm like, 395 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:41.599 I'm exclusive right here on creating daily from producer Jimmy. Never been told 396 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:48.880 about that. I first I started by PODCAST, with my podcasting career with 397 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:53.039 a twenty dollar stick Mike from best buy. So it's not as important about 398 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:56.640 what equipment as you get started as as just getting started. So let's get 399 00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.640 back to how do you launch? Okay, love it. I got a 400 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.759 little into their no, you're good. You're good. So what I recommend 401 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:08.519 is banking a couple episodes, getting them recorded, feeling good about them and 402 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:12.519 then starting to put them out and just staying ahead of schedule, not too 403 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.680 far ahead of schedule that you don't have time to adjust, because there's nothing 404 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.680 worse. I've had that feeling when you realize the mistake and there's two or 405 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.279 three more episodes that have it and if you can, if it is something 406 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.559 that you can fix before you do put them out. And by all means, 407 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:30.519 here's what I recommend. First and foremost, before you even think about 408 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.920 what, how many episodes and all that other stuff. There's no one answer. 409 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:40.519 But here's how you find your answer. Brainstorm all the different things you 410 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.920 want to talk about on your show. This is going to serve two purposes. 411 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:47.480 One, it's going to give you that really good content runways. You 412 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:48.519 don't feel pressure like, oh my gosh, I don't know want im to 413 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.680 talk about this week or I don't talk now. You have a whole list 414 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.240 to choose from and every moment that you're going through your day and something new 415 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:57.880 POPs up at it's that list was a living list. Okay, so that's 416 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:02.680 that's the one reason. The other reason is because once you get that initial 417 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:06.279 shot at it done, now you see what the content looks like. Now 418 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:07.960 you can kind of start to see, okay, there are a couple of 419 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.880 themes in here, or there's onder a little bit of a flow that I 420 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.799 can see if I by arrange these in a certain way. I know when 421 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:21.880 I was releasing launching my show business in the bedroom, when I did exactly 422 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:26.839 this and I realized that they were about eight extremely key foundational points that I 423 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:32.119 needed to make sure my audience knew before they got into any of the other 424 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:36.559 stuff that I talked about. So what I did was I crafted eight episodes 425 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.279 around those eight points. Now, I knew for me long term, I 426 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.359 wanted to release schedule that was every other week. You know, I know 427 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.400 you're creating, Bailey because you're crazy, but I was every other week, 428 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.319 and so it's now I got to speak on something just for a second. 429 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.799 It's important to stay consistent because you want your audience to build you into their 430 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.920 routine. Yes, so, what you what you don't ever really want to 431 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:06.240 do is start off, let's say weekly and then dial it back. It's 432 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:07.400 good, it's better. It's good, or that's the word. It's better 433 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.240 start every other week. It's so much good to start every other week at 434 00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:15.000 then give them more. So maybe ramp up. Yeah, that's so. 435 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.480 That's good idea. Yeah, yeah, so I was going to start every 436 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.480 other week and because I was starting every other week and I looked at that 437 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:23.319 launch, I knew I had eight. I said, well, eight, 438 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.240 device by two. Pretty well, so there's four. So I said okay, 439 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.480 instead of because I want my audience get used to the pace of release. 440 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.960 However, I also wanted them to have a lot to sink their teeth 441 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.759 into. If they really liked one episode, I wanted to make sure they 442 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:42.559 had another one. So what I did was I had for well, I 443 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:47.480 guess it was like a monthlong, two month whatever really schedule, so every 444 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.599 other week, but I dropped two episodes on each of those instead of just 445 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.799 one. Oh, that's Tou Tou to two to get through the eight. 446 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.960 And then it was every other week, just one, so that they got 447 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.400 a lot to sink into, and it edit worked really. Now this is 448 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.440 still a guessing game, right, you're still kind of hoping it works, 449 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.079 and it really worked well for me and I think and I've seen it work 450 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.680 well with clients. That kind of approach where you first drawed a list, 451 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.480 then think of what's the foundational stuff I should start with, and they use 452 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.920 that as a jumping off point for the strategy of launching. So launching with 453 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:23.359 eight worked for me. I then created a swizzle real around those eight, 454 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.799 which is a whole nother thing, but it was gave me really good opportunity 455 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.960 to promote that eight as a launch eight hundred and eighty, you know. 456 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:36.440 So it just gave me all the boundaries that I needed to craft a whole 457 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.880 marketing campaign around these eight episodes. No, that's what I would suggest. 458 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:44.720 Yeah, are you dropping a trailer episode like a couple weeks before and then 459 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.839 dropping all eight, or dropping eight in the sequence that you said? Yeah, 460 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.519 you know, I've had a lot of fun with trailer episodes as a 461 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.279 concept, or the last eight years, on years, because they're funny. 462 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.519 So years ago, okay, here's the thing. Three, here's the reason 463 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.480 why trailer episodes were needed a few years ago. Okay, this is good, 464 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.359 just needed, like you couldn't even you couldn't not have them because the 465 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:14.079 platforms took sometimes two weeks to accept your show into them and for people to 466 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:18.240 be able to find them. So imagine you're all excited about your doing podcast, 467 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.559 an episode. What is out, you're telling everybody, and nobody can 468 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:26.119 listen, Dang it, because it's not on the platforms yet. Right, 469 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.480 yeah, so the trailers solve that problem, because what you would do is 470 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.839 you would submit your show with the trailer. However long the platforms took, 471 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:36.119 they took, but you knew when your launched date was for your episode one 472 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.359 and when it was ready, it was in the platforms. Everything's good to 473 00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:45.119 go. Now I see platforms getting shows in within the hour like it's it's 474 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.680 really quick. So that's the law, your concern. So now I'm having 475 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:55.000 a little more fun with my trailers, because it was just like honestly reading 476 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.759 like a description of the show. First him, you're reading basically saying the 477 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:02.079 description of the show, marrying it to music beds, and that's a trailer 478 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.240 day. My name is Yay and I'M gonna be here every day, every 479 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:08.839 day, a day. What I do, by the way, your intro 480 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.440 music or your weight music, as we were going to start, fantastic. 481 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.240 So what I like to do now, because there's kind of there two camps. 482 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:19.880 There's you, you know, trailer episode, saying who you are, 483 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:25.279 introducing yourself to your audience and what the show's going to be about. There's 484 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.799 the other camp of thought. was just put out a first episode that sounds 485 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.440 exactly like the rest of the episodes are going to get, so they know 486 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.200 what they're going to get. I'm in the third camp. I figured out 487 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.799 a third camp. I'm right. I found the gray area and I'm I 488 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:44.200 shoved my way in there. The Gray area is this, and it doesn't 489 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.440 always work, but sometimes when it can work, we're great. It's a 490 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:51.279 it's a first episode that is also a trailer episode. So, in other 491 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.279 words, let's say you have an episode, a show that has two segments. 492 00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.400 Okay, so in the beginning of the show, you know, you 493 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.640 introduce yourself, you give a more of an instruction than you would have any 494 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.000 other episode, talking about who you are, and that at all, and 495 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.759 what the show is going to be. And then you say, and you 496 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.799 know, we're gonna have two segments on this show and the first segment I'm 497 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.680 going to be talking to a guest and in the second segment I'm going to 498 00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.680 be giving you a really good takeaway in my own thoughts on matter, with 499 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.880 some homework for you to to do before you listen to the next episode. 500 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:25.119 I'm making this up ours. It's so by doing that, you're kind of 501 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.240 taking them through what the show is going to be while you're also delivering the 502 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.799 content. So you say that and then you say, and here we go 503 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.079 with my very first guest of the podcast. So and so then you have 504 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.680 the guest interview and then after that you say and hey, now we're going 505 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.160 into the second segment. And, as I mentioned, this segment is meant 506 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.640 to do this. It's explain the parameters are all so get your pencils ready 507 00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.799 and take some notes or whatever. I'm going to get you some homework and 508 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.480 then you do the second segment. So kind of it kind of does both 509 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.559 the same time, you know. So that, yeah, by first episode 510 00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:59.319 of a show that's currently on on hiadas. That's like keep telling myself, 511 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.000 called people of Florida. I don't call people AFLORIDA. The very first episode 512 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.559 is actually really good example of that. Okay, so people of Florida. 513 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:07.799 So if you guys, what is that out? Is that public? Yeah, 514 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:12.440 it's still able. People are episode one. Cool. Yeah, I 515 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.079 got asked You I was trying to delete a podcast earlier today. I'm like, 516 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.279 I've never tried to delete a podcast. How was here work? But 517 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.880 Anyway, a host. So yeah, like I have an old show that 518 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.000 you like keeps popping up, but it doesn't have any episodes because the hosting 519 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:27.559 companies. Anyway, it's a whole. It's a whole pad is. We 520 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.720 are of hosting companies defunct. I don't know what to tell you, man. 521 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.000 It's weird, like there's no there's like no episodes on it. It's 522 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.400 just like my face and Beople, like I found your podcast there's no not 523 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.200 on. Anyway, I digress. I'll figure that one out later. By 524 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.279 the way, I love your new clubhouse profile. Not to Nirvana. Awesome. 525 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:49.319 Carry on. Yeah, the baby ain't getting paid. Um, I'm 526 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.200 the guy, I'm the I'm the baby in the picture and I'm trying to 527 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.319 get some money. Keeping your clothes on. By the way, that's really 528 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:57.880 great. I gotta read. I'm going to Reado it, I got to 529 00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.960 Redo it, I get to get it more legit, I got to show 530 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:06.359 up authentic. Okay, so I love the I love the conversation so far. 531 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.960 So we're figuring out our why, we're kind of getting our show format. 532 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.039 And once again, if you're listening to this and you're like man, 533 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.400 this sounds more complicated, I thought it was. This is the right way 534 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.839 to launch a podcast. Okay, if you follow me and you're like hey, 535 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.960 billy, you were just talking about creating daily in a clubhouse room and 536 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.720 then three hours later there's a live show, that is not the way to 537 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.920 do it. Like, this is the way. This is the way to 538 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:30.440 do if you want. If you do that, you're gonna last about twenty 539 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:35.240 episodes, which is where I get to for most of my shows and I'm 540 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.000 like, Oh, what was I thinking? But he didn't did a minute 541 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.519 ago. You're like, I love to start stuff. I do. It's 542 00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.400 awesome. Maybe I should do what you do, like I just help you 543 00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:49.079 start your stuff. But Anyway, okay. So we're so we're getting out 544 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.559 there, we're getting our show together, we're getting our format and I love 545 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.680 this because you can test this and you can over that time. That's why 546 00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.880 I don't want to create a bunch of shows. So you want to create 547 00:33:57.960 --> 00:33:59.960 one at a time or a couple or few at a time. That way 548 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.079 you can adjust. So this is really good information, really good tip, 549 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.480 because I have heard people say creat twenty shows and I'm like one, creating 550 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.519 twenty shows is a lot of work, like that's ridiculous. And then, 551 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:15.000 yeah, and I always launch with I trying to launch with I trying to 552 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.519 tell other people. Let me say that I never launched with two hours of 553 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.639 two hours of content. I wish I'd tell people like at least launched with 554 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:27.119 two hours of content, like that's a pretty good consumable amount of content. 555 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.679 You know, if you got thirty minute show, drop four of them or 556 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:31.960 whatever. Same and I've dropped them all the same day. I don't know, 557 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.519 maybe, but I don't do that because I break all the rules that 558 00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:40.280 I make up. So really matters. PHILLY's rule book heat and that slight 559 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.119 footnote. He doesn't do any of this. Yeah, I'm the lawn care 560 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:46.639 guy where you're like, you like drive by and there's like a long care 561 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.239 truck and you're like, dude, your yards looks like trash. Like I'm 562 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:55.559 that guy, Guy, I living for everybody else's lawn is amazing. Everybody 563 00:34:55.559 --> 00:35:00.599 else looks great, it's perfect, perfectly manicured, but my lawn trash. 564 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.960 Or so we're promoting it. We got it out there. Maybe we get 565 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.480 some people listen to it. I'm trying to think in the next process in 566 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.559 the I mean there's so much to it, though, because you're good much 567 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.800 you should do all kinds of marketing and all this kind of stuff. But 568 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:20.599 what is one thing that you would say in those first four to ten episodes, 569 00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.199 for to eight episodes, how am I gonna get the Most Bang from 570 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:28.000 my book? I'M gonna get it out there the fastest to the right people, 571 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.159 and I guess a lot of this homework is done in the beginning or 572 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.079 before you hit record, the niche and all that kind of stuff. But 573 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.599 what are some ways that you coach people that, because that's the number one 574 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.880 thing. How do I grow my audience? Yeah, okay, so I'm 575 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.519 going to bring out an Oldie, but a goodie. I'm going to take 576 00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.519 it off the shelf and dust it off for you, Billy, I'm ready, 577 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:49.840 ready. This is going to sound very familiar to you because you have 578 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:55.159 definitely heard this one, but I think everyone who's listening, I'm assuming a 579 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:58.800 lot of people who haven't heard this before. Yeah, I don't know them 580 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.239 yet, so I haven't had ans to hear this. So here it is. 581 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.800 It's going to it comes from religion, but it's not religious. Now 582 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.639 you know exactly I'm going to say, billy, I don't know. Disciples 583 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:15.440 right. Yeah, he's just this word spread so impactfully and effectively through across 584 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:21.400 the entire world. Is because he wasn't the only one walking around and sharing 585 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:28.119 it. He had twelve disciples who are equally as invested and passionate about about 586 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:30.400 his mission, and they walked in their own directions and spread the news. 587 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:36.800 So for your own podcast, you want to create some disciples, and this 588 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:39.559 can start before you even launch a should start before you even launch. So 589 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:44.320 let's say you're launching with, let's just say four episodes. You have four 590 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:49.320 episodes as you've recorded before your launch a date. So you have four episodes 591 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.280 worth of content. Take a clip from each of those episodes, you know, 592 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.880 a one minute clip that is really representative of you. So overall, 593 00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.760 you want these clips to represent, you know, a fun side of you, 594 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.760 if that is appropriate, and intriguing side of you with that's appropriate, 595 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.000 how you speak with your guests. A clip of your guests so they can 596 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.440 understand the kind of guess you're having on. Just give them a sense of 597 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.639 the show and these first four episodes. And you're going to take that and 598 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:20.920 you're going to also create a one sheeet of your show. Very simple in 599 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.920 fact. Oh Billy, about the awesome service that they get. Join it 600 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:30.400 is in general, and interrupt this video to tell you about one she dot 601 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.480 pro. You can get a one sheet dot pro. Billy Thorpe. Find 602 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:36.159 up more information and be sure to click the affiliate link, because I make 603 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:44.199 a couple bucks. Here we go anyway. So yeah, create created what 604 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:49.519 sheet, and what that one sheet does is tell about you your show. 605 00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.480 So just a title of show, obviously descript and to show your show are 606 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.119 a picture, a couple of pictures of you that kind of express what the 607 00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.480 show's going to be about. Bullet point the intention, all that thing. 608 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.599 Just give them a good sense of what the show is. Then you're going 609 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:07.960 to shop that around and who you're going to shop that around to our potential 610 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.880 partners. So we're talking about audience grows. I'm not going to talk about 611 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:15.760 sponsorship right now, but audience growth. You can get strategic media partners to 612 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.239 help you grow. So let's say you're doing a show on okay. One 613 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.760 of the shows I produced has to do with horse rescue. Okay, retired 614 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:30.519 Racehorse radio concentrates on rehoming retired resources. So it's a race race horse rescue 615 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.039 show basically, right. So it by by locking arms with a group called 616 00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.440 new vocations. New Vocations, their whole entire mission of that organization is helping 617 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:47.159 to rehome or resources. So they became now that's cause of sponsor as well, 618 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.920 but because they locked arms with them. Every episode they promote. So 619 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:57.239 in your case, whatever show that you're designing, think about who also is 620 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.039 interested in serving that same mission. So let's say you're doing a show on 621 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:07.559 financial responsibility. Right. So perhaps there is at the local university there they 622 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:14.079 have a financial literacy program or perhaps there's your SBA, your lookal SBA has 623 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:19.599 some financial service companies on their roster that they would love to have be part 624 00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:23.000 of your show. So whatever that is, maybe there's a facebook group that 625 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.400 really talks about this and there's a good community there. Find those spaces that 626 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.119 are already serving the exact audience you want to serve and let them know about 627 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.840 your show. And that's what that where the sizzle real and the one she 628 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.480 come in. So you present this to them, have a conversation with a 629 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.880 person at the head of the table at these different places and see how you 630 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.480 can work together. Now I don't have all the answers what that conversation is 631 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.760 going to be, but I can tell you the synergies can be extremely fruitful 632 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.320 and they want you and they want your content and they want to be able 633 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:58.000 to put the people in their circle on your show. So lock arms love, 634 00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.960 but on the same mission as you, and they can also be fellow 635 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.039 podcasters. So don't be afraid of that. So any opportunity you can to 636 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.440 to partner with somebody who has the same intention as you. That is how 637 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.719 you go your audeness, because now they're going to help put your show in 638 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:15.280 front of their audiences. That's a money shot right there. That is money 639 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:21.199 ringing the register with that. I preached this speaking of Disciples and Gospel. 640 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.519 I preach this Gospel all the time. Go build the community that you want. 641 00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.760 Go help someone else build the type of community that you want and your 642 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.960 build your own in so I love that. Being a contributor, and you 643 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.199 said something about facebook groups, and this is one of the ways that we 644 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:40.000 grew our fishing show so fast was by going in and contributing to facebook groups 645 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.639 and different things like that and figuring out, you know, how do we 646 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:45.639 go in and be a contributor, not just a spammer and all this kind 647 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:50.320 of stuff. So I love that. And this is the easiest day and 648 00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.519 age of collaboration ever. You look at producer Jim actually, producer Jimmy and 649 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.320 I, for instance, we're on the same show right now. We do 650 00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.360 so we do similar things with similar topics. I'll say we don't do exactly 651 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:05.559 the similar things, but we cross over. We could easily crossover sponsorship stuff. 652 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.039 We could easily cross over, help people launched their show or grow their 653 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.719 show or whatever that looks like. But at the end of the end of 654 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:15.159 the day we realize the power of sharing audiences, of being on one another 655 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.559 show, of being in one other's clubhouse rooms. And so this isn't a 656 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.840 competition, this is a collaboration. So actually you can be a competitor. 657 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.239 I'd love to, but I'd really sorry. I was going to stay to 658 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.239 share an example of when I put this into practice and when it worked just 659 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:38.119 ridiculously beautifully. So in starting Florida podcast network, I knew that I wanted 660 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:42.800 it to be tied to and that's Shan since change because the pandemic, but 661 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.039 at the time I knew I wanted to be tied to Florida's number one industry. 662 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.280 I'm not stupid. I want where the money is right, and Florida 663 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.599 Sumber one industry is travel and tourism. I thought ranges, I thought it 664 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:59.199 was oranges and orange, but it is part of the microphone see always points 665 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:04.480 a wrong direction. Being so what what starting Florida podcast net work? The 666 00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.760 flagship show was finding Florida and that was a travel adventure show. And so 667 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:13.679 are we wanted to go around two different areas of the state, intending to 668 00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.440 show them off, let them people know that we were talking about their state 669 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:21.280 and their thing and see how we can form relations. Well, and some 670 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:27.079 doing a little bit of due diligence digging beforehand, I found so visit Florida's 671 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.239 the big umbrella travel and tourism group, and they had a conference coming up 672 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.960 that was in just a few months. It would have been within the first 673 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:40.480 episode or two of our show. And this conference is called Florida Huddle and 674 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.960 essentially what it was there under one roof. It was going to be all 675 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.719 the different travel and tourism bureaus, all of them, wow. It was 676 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.400 going to be major venues like Lego land and a whold bunch of other places, 677 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.440 all these hotels, restaurant like, all these people that we wanted to 678 00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:01.159 work with under one roof. So what did we do? When I see 679 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:05.800 we, I mean Glenn the Geek, my cohost, and I. We 680 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:10.760 submitted ourselves from media passes. So for the industry that your show serves, 681 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:14.679 just like I mentioned, locking arms with people on the same mission. Good 682 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.360 for the industry that your service, your show services. There's also a conference 683 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:22.639 for that industry. So reach out to that conference and ask for media passes. 684 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:23.800 Number One, you'll get in for free. That's always good. Number 685 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:29.000 two, by walking around with the microphone, you get to meet all those 686 00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.519 people there were there. So when I tell you that we first of all 687 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:37.119 we interviewed every single travel bureau that was there. We wot it's and and 688 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.400 the organizer to visit Florida, the main president, we stitch that together in 689 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.239 a special episode. It's now visit floora was like this, amazing. And 690 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.079 when I tell you the whole, like next year of our trips were funded 691 00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:54.280 from that one effort, it's true. Every vice visits bures like we love 692 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.119 this because they got to be part of the show. Yeah, that's show 693 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.400 them the experience of it. And then it took off from there and every 694 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:06.000 podcast episode after was was hosted or paid for by one of those people. 695 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:08.719 So it works. Go be a podcaster at your industry. For all the 696 00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:12.760 people wondering what kind of show idea, there you go, that's a perfect 697 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.559 one to work out. That's great. That's all I mean that. Yeah, 698 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.159 that's what I love about podcasting. It does open up so many doors, 699 00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.320 and this is why, when people are like, yeah, I think 700 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.480 you starting a podcast. I'm like just do it, like just start now, 701 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:28.320 and if you mess up, quote unquote, I don't believe that's a 702 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.119 thing, but if you met your I mean whatever. Anyway, if you 703 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.000 mess up and you fall flat on your face and it doesn't do what you 704 00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.480 think it's going to do, what you probably won't. On the first one, 705 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.000 the first time I ever wrote a bike or try to walk or try 706 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:42.599 to talk or whatever like. Didn't work out, but I learned over time. 707 00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:47.039 But it does open up so many in so many doors that for any 708 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.239 kind of business, for any kind of person who wants whatever door you want 709 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:53.719 to open, a podcast is going to be there. It's the crowbar. 710 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:58.360 It'll get it open for you thousand percent. There's a lot of power in 711 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.159 the microphone. I it on that on that day, not only was able 712 00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.840 to get all those visitors bureaus, but I was able to walk up to 713 00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:07.519 billy swap safari. Didn't I just relation he was billy not. So you 714 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.639 tell about it's called Billy Swatsafari. Get an interview and that led to a 715 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:17.639 future trip lego land, all these like. If you Lego land, like 716 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.599 land that's what you know. I love having a kid. And then when 717 00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:24.679 I was like that's even better, like because now I get a opportunity to 718 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:30.760 go a Lego land. Ma's gonna be some Weirdo walking through Lego. No, 719 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.920 I brought my kid with me so I wasn't just passed around the microphone. 720 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:40.960 Could Inter your childhood. Hey jet come here, be weird, but 721 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.599 it was very smart. That one trip did a lot. So find your 722 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.039 conference and go. All right, if somebody from lego lands watching this one, 723 00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.400 to formally invite you publicly to the show because I would love a trip 724 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.559 to Legoland. It will do interviews on top of Lego podcast tables that you 725 00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.360 build for us who have fun. Producer, Jimmy, I hope that this 726 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.960 show has really wet some appetites out there. If I get it sounds so 727 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:10.960 weird saying that created some appetites for for somebody who want and inspire somebody to 728 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.239 go and figure out the process in and I know it's a lot. I 729 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.119 mean we could spend all day, like we could go back and forth and 730 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.159 strategies and tips and tricks and all this kind of stuff, but I really 731 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.000 just want to bring you on to like let people know. One, it's 732 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:28.280 possible to hear some fundamental things that you can start to do before you hit 733 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.519 the record button. And then three, how do if they're just bandwidth is 734 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.880 shot, they have no other time, how can they get in touch with 735 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:39.039 you to work with you? And what services do you provide? Well, 736 00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:45.639 you can always reach me at Flintstone Mediacom and we provide all the things we 737 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.239 need to launch your show. So we can help you launch your show from 738 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.119 complete scratch. In fact, that's my preference to launch you from scratch. 739 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.440 So before you go out and buy all the shiny object things and equipment, 740 00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:59.719 contact me first. But that's what I can do. I can help you 741 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.880 launch a show with the intention of building your brand. So that's what I 742 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.239 do. To reach out to me and then we can handle production and everything 743 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.960 else. I've an incredible, incredible, talented team. They're fantastic. I'm 744 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.199 so proud of them, very, very honored to work with them. So 745 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:17.199 we have a full team. So come in and check us out. Flint 746 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:21.519 stowing MEDIACOM. Yeah, and also, if you're on clubhouse, make sure 747 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.880 you tap into producer Jimmy's profile and follow her, because she's all the time 748 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.320 doing some cool stuff. What's up? Yeah, and one more thing that 749 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.679 I'm cool. One more cool thing I'm doing. More thing that I'm cool. 750 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.480 I can't talk today. Thing that I do it. So I do 751 00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.880 launch shows, but I know that a lot of people launch on their own 752 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.840 and maybe a few months into it they're like, maybe that could be doing 753 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:44.880 better. So if you feel like maybe you're not reaching the goals that you're 754 00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.599 wanting to reach, you're hitting a roadblock or anything like that. I also 755 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:52.519 have a booster class, so you can go to podcast booster classcom. You 756 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.119 can sign up them. That makes sense. That was the reason the title 757 00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.119 was boost your podcast. So forget all that. There you go. Oh 758 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:01.400 yeah, I know come up with that title. You did. You didn't 759 00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.079 even know it, and then I need forgot about it. I get the 760 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:08.519 hook. I didn't get this pitch whatever. Practically creating content in your sleep, 761 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.760 Philly, you're amazing. I'm just trying to go every single every day, 762 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.400 money through Friday. It is a lot of work, but I'm figuring 763 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.639 out a little tweaks to make the workflow better, which I could have you 764 00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:22.960 back on and we could talk another forty five minutes about workflow and podcasting and 765 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.400 all that kind of stuff. So I do want to if you get a 766 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.360 couple more minutes her. Producer Jim. I do want to let an opportunity 767 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.480 for anybody, it's watching or listening, to go ahead and drop your questions 768 00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:37.880 in the chat so you can put a little que colon and then ask your 769 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.679 question. If you're on clubhouse, feel free to come up. However, 770 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.400 if you're on clubhouse, please keep the question about podcasting, not about youtube 771 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.039 or any of the other stuff. So that is a struggle of mine. 772 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.719 And also this is our last room on clubhouse that we're going to do for 773 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.800 creating daily as the live show. As I don't I mean it's a great 774 00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:00.159 fit. Today this room is full, but typically that's not the case. 775 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.519 And so whatever. I'm probably canceling it too early, but I'm going to 776 00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.159 so I think it'll be better. So if you have a question about podcasting, 777 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:12.199 say like to start things right. It's like, Oh, where can 778 00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.199 I go live? Oh, everywhere. And if you're and once again, 779 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:16.719 if you're on bullhorn to I'm live over there. I'm live on twitter, 780 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:20.840 I'm like one twitch. I'm alive everywhere. So if you have any questions, 781 00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.039 feel free to drop them in the chat and if not, we'll close 782 00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:27.800 this thing down. But really appreciate what you do. Producer Jimmy, I 783 00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.159 know we spend a lot of time on clubhouse. It's where we at. 784 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.320 And Yeah, you know, it's a lot of fun to see the light 785 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.239 bulbs come on for people when they go, Oh, I didn't know I 786 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.719 could do that. Or you know, I read this twenty page blog article 787 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.400 is said I had to have all these pieces together and we're like, Whoa, 788 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.000 Whoa, just go get your microphone and pull in your computer and record 789 00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:51.480 on what you have and then figure out the rest later. So we share 790 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:53.960 a lot of same values and I appreciate you being a part of my community. 791 00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:57.599 Love being a part of yours, and this has been a lot of 792 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.639 fun to create this show and hopefully many more. Hopefully we can do some 793 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.199 more episode and things like that. Same Billy, and you bet it you're 794 00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.239 better get your butt to Florida some days so we can hang out. Let's 795 00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.440 have a good time. I know that'll be fun. I can't. Yeah, 796 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:14.000 every time there's a podcast event I am like traveling, I'm moving, 797 00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.360 and I'm moving during podfest and we didn't even talk about that. You are 798 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:21.559 a cohost of the podfast podcast and we got podfast coming up. So so 799 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:23.920 you pitch, you pitch podfast real quick, because when people come, meet 800 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:29.039 you there and then I will I'll take care of some chat stuff. Okay, 801 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:30.320 awesome. So I don't have my schedule in front of me, but 802 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.679 podfast takes place made starting me and the Mace. May Twenty six, I 803 00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.119 believe, is the first day for PODFAST and takes place in Orlando. PODFAST 804 00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:44.480 multi Media Expo is the largest independent podcast conference in the world and I'm excited 805 00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.199 that we're doing it in person. So we got to gather a small group 806 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:52.039 of us in person in November, but this is the first time. We're 807 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.920 like going back to the full well, full water. It's going to be 808 00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:00.000 awesome. So two thousand podcasters. But here's the there's was really great about 809 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:01.760 podfast. Is why I love it so much. No matter how big it 810 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:07.559 grows, it's always feels like a small family. I absolutely love it. 811 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:13.159 So podcast multimedia expo and I do cohost a podfast podcast and on that show 812 00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:15.280 we have past speakers. So top of the top of the top, be'st 813 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:20.239 of the best care the crop, podcasters submitting tips and then Glenn and I 814 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.519 give our two cents on them and at our own advice as well. So 815 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:24.960 check it out. I hope to see you guys all there. If you 816 00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:30.440 go to podcast XBOCOM and get a ticket, you can use the Promo Code 817 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.360 Network and get twenty five percent off. Okay, cool, and I'll include 818 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.360 that in the show description as well. I'll make sure I get it from 819 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.039 you. Can text your email to me. And we did have a question 820 00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:45.159 come in over here on clubhouse from Julia says any suggestions for podcast cover our 821 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.760 did it need a personal photo on it? So doesn't need a photo? 822 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.920 Oh, I love this question. Okay, this is such a good question. 823 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.679 So unless you're already face famous, you do not need to necessarily have 824 00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.719 your face on the show. Art How I'm feeling, our definitely face baby's 825 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:06.000 famous. However, if, for e. If the theme of your show 826 00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.239 does lend itself to you want someone to immediately feel comfortable, you want to 827 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:13.559 make sure that there's a they know that it's a safe space, then a 828 00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.880 good, friendly picture of you may be appropriate. So if your show is 829 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.960 on a very sensetive topic, then that could be appropriate. But, all 830 00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:22.119 else being said, unless you're famous, and I wouldn't bother, here's what 831 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:27.760 is important. Always think, in all things podcasting, think about the end 832 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.159 user. Okay, so a listener scrolling through their pot they've come to the 833 00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:36.079 podcast platform to look for something. Right, golf show, right, so 834 00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:38.840 they type and golfing. They're going to have a whole laundry list of podcast 835 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:44.000 show up. So that little icon is going to have to grab their attention 836 00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:47.239 real quick. So you need to make sure that the elements speak for themselves. 837 00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:51.039 So the title of the show, I mean we can end naming a 838 00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.039 show and all this up, but whatever you've called it, make sure that 839 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:58.000 it pops, okay, that it's really obvious and evident when people are seeing. 840 00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:01.239 So that usually is best accomplished with a dark background and light letters or 841 00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:07.239 vice vers up then any other added visual elements that really lend itself also to 842 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.679 the theme, so that it speaks for itself. So, as an example, 843 00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.920 my old show this is in the bedroom. Now it could sound like 844 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:19.000 one thing right, and I don't mind that. I Love I love being 845 00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:22.599 tongue in cheek, but it really is spant for podcast effort, podcasters, 846 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.599 for CISLERS who do it. I did. They started their business in their 847 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.119 bedroom. So the show art is a cartoonish version of me literally on my 848 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:34.960 bedroom, on my computer. So when you put when you scroll that and 849 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.360 you see that, you immediately know what it means. You. Yeah, 850 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.480 we resonate with it if that's which comes for. So that's what I mean. 851 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:45.199 So make sure the name POPs. Add visual elements that also help tell 852 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.840 the story so that immediately as they're saying they're seeing it. It makes them 853 00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.800 stop in their tracks. And nothing too small, because it's going to show 854 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.079 were display really small. So if your elements are teeny tiny to can't see 855 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:59.079 them. Yeah, I love that advice. And I was just looking at 856 00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:01.280 my show art and really it's like I'm not even subscribe to podcast. Don't 857 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:07.639 even follow my own show away. Can I crab a mind doing? You're 858 00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:13.679 your own worst audience member. I find I don't comment the own stuff either. 859 00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.039 No, which might be a good thing. That's probably good thing. 860 00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:19.639 Don't like your comment on your own stuff. That's is weird. Yeah, 861 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.440 and, by the way, like this a good segue. If you see 862 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:24.719 a subscribe or follow button near wherever you're looking right now, go ahead and 863 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:29.079 smash that and be a part of the show and leave some reviews. I 864 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.159 don't know if they matter or not. Maybe I'll ask this question. I 865 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:35.559 never ask for reviews, but I'm always sad when I don't get any. 866 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.679 So what's the deal? Do I need reviews? Producer Jimmy, because that's 867 00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:42.679 another question I could ask a lot that I ask a well, now it's 868 00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:47.599 interesting. Apple just opened up a little bit of the curtain for their algorithm 869 00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:54.039 and it turns out reviews don't mean a damn. All right, but however, 870 00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:59.400 though, however, views are really good social currency. So if you 871 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:01.639 get a good review, then that's something you could repurpose. You can put 872 00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:05.519 it on your social media account, you can put on your website for your 873 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.679 show, you can put it into your one sheet. That's actually when I'm 874 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.840 doing what I mentioned before and putting a one sheet together to kind of promote 875 00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:15.840 a show before launch or while we're in the midst of it or early, 876 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:20.199 early into the show and whatever, trying to pitch it to sponsors. I'll 877 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.519 pull any reviews that I get on on apple or spotify, whatever and put 878 00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:29.239 them in the one sheet. So they're great for collecting good social proof. 879 00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:32.079 Yeah, but they don't really help you with the algorithms, apparently. Yeah, 880 00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:36.239 well, only for you to leave good ones. You can leave one, 881 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:37.559 but if you don't, yeah, no bad one, good ones, 882 00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:40.559 no bad ones. All right. So I think that is all. We'll 883 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:46.280 see. I think James Scott probably has nice says it matters for your ego, 884 00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:50.280 I guess if you have your picture on it. What are you saying 885 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.039 about me? Me, I put my picture on everything because I'm just trying 886 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:57.000 to be famous. Hey, but you got a great face for it. 887 00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:00.719 You got an expressive face and now you are face famous. But laws you 888 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.159 know, knie is being rude in the comments over here. Me, I'm 889 00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.079 a at this. I'm at verbally spank you in front of all of our 890 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:10.400 friends if you don't chill out the comments. All right. So, nick, 891 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:15.400 so loving this, love with this. James says, I think you'd 892 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:20.719 need a photo because people buy into people. So the audience see you, 893 00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.079 they're more likely to buy rather than sing a generic cover our. I mean, 894 00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.880 you know, and I I do with that. Yeah, I do 895 00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.360 agree with that to a certain extent. I just think that when when someone 896 00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:35.719 is scrolling looking for a show, they're more likely to click on it, 897 00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:39.519 unless it's again that personal thing. They're more likely to click on it because 898 00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:45.559 they know that the value that it's going to bring to them, the person 899 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.599 that's giving the values, secondary when they haven't clicked on it yet. Yeah. 900 00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:52.000 So, so I think it's a little bit of both. But Hey, 901 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:54.960 it's not nothing worth trying and, like we said at the very beginning, 902 00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.719 you can always change your art. You can always change it. Yeah, 903 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.199 it's and I noticed. Yeah, yeah, I noticed that, Mike 904 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.039 Forester. Thank you, Mike. He did make sure it was clarified. 905 00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:07.239 May Twenty Six hundred twenty nine for podfast. So thank you. And One 906 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:09.760 more thing that I saw, if you don't mind me bringing a question up. 907 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:14.559 Sure, yeah, absolutely. Oh, oh gosh, way to go. 908 00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:16.519 It like disappeared on me. I saw two seconds ago. Oh No, 909 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.800 well, well, I don't know. Oh, here we go. 910 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.679 Okay, so, if I know, I'm sorry. I lost it on 911 00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:30.599 a where it went? I thought I have one. Just kidding. James 912 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:34.159 says, so may your show. So, James is said, so I 913 00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:38.880 should take my ugly face off mine. Thank God. Maybe. And here's 914 00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:42.880 another thing that you can do too, and I did this on clubhouse and 915 00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.840 I'll do this. I'll do this with podcast stuff too. Is is I'll 916 00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.880 scroll through and see what catches my eye and go, oh, that's okay, 917 00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.000 cool. And I did this on clubhouse way early on. There's, 918 00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:55.199 yeah, so many people, hundreds of people in our room, and so 919 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:59.679 I was I literally would go in different rooms and scroll through and just see 920 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:01.960 what caught my eye and I'm like maybe not that. You know, that 921 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.719 sequence may not caught catch everyone's eye, but it caught mine. So maybe 922 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.360 there's a lot more people like me that are seeing red over yellow or whatever 923 00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:15.360 it was. So I just found no, I just found this the question. 924 00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.039 So thank you, Geraldine, for Weird I couldn't see it an ago. 925 00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:22.440 So recommendations for podcast Rams of clubs for new bees. So I'll of 926 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:28.119 course say I have to say dreamors become doers is a great clubs. If 927 00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:31.400 you click cut my face that you could go to the juniors become doers club, 928 00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:36.079 Geraldine. And also I started recently the podfast clubs. The podfest now 929 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:37.559 has its own club on WAN to know that. That's another one as well. 930 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:42.719 Yeah, and then the other really great clause what you can do actually, 931 00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.639 Geraldine, is, you can actually go to the search bar type of 932 00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:49.760 podcast and make sure you have clubs selected and you should get some good results. 933 00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:52.880 Oh cool, I'm joining the podfest one right now. Wait, I 934 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:57.360 am a member, remember. I didn't remember I was a member. Whatever. 935 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.079 You know why? Because I invited to you and you're like, I 936 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:05.480 don't even to think twice, except face isn't on the cover art. I 937 00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:08.440 mean, no, I'm just yet. If you had your face on there, 938 00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:12.280 who do you think you are? All right, out of here, 939 00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.679 not hanging out with you. It's ridiculous, all right. And also, 940 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:20.000 Geraldine, I got to promote how to podcast. So that little green house 941 00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:22.199 up their click on it. Follow this club. We occasional show up and 942 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.360 talk about podcasting, mostly hanging out on clubhouse, but sometimes I'll bring some 943 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.440 rooms that are valuable. Not Anymore as much because I'm on doing this daily 944 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.400 show every day, which is a lot of fun. And and so that 945 00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:36.639 is that. I guess it's going to wrap us up. I don't see, 946 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.760 oh wait, any willing to give feedback on my cover art. Julius, 947 00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:44.639 that is a great idea and we will do a show like that. 948 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:47.960 I've done that fast and so producer, Jimmy, maybe you and I could 949 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.800 collaborate and we could have people submit their show artwork before and I could bring 950 00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:57.320 it up on screen and we can critique it and yeah, that'd be funny. 951 00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:59.679 I'd be great. Let's do that. Sounds Fun, sounds like a 952 00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:01.800 good on. All right. Well, guys, I really appreciate your producer, 953 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:07.400 Jimmy so much for jumping in and being willing to having me hang out 954 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:08.320 with me for a few minutes. It's been a lot of fun. This 955 01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:14.119 is fun. I love you and I love do it. It mean let's 956 01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:19.159 fans a lot of fun. Man, Guy's ridiculous. Yeah, I'm afraid 957 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.039 the more I loosen up, the the worst is show's gonna get. But 958 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:24.480 we'll see. And there's my three year old, my three year old high 959 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:29.239 or my good look at yeah, my three year old or my dog. 960 01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.280 Somebody's going to be on this show. Will producer Jimmy appreciate it so much? 961 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:35.760 I'm going to close this thing out and we'll catch it in another clubhouse 962 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:38.159 room and all the links for you will be in the show notes. So 963 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:43.079 people go check her out and connect with her. A great resource and if 964 01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.400 you just want to talk to her. Check her out on owl. I'm 965 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:47.559 going to be talking about that APP later on, but that's a really cool 966 01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:51.559 APP and she's on there, so anyway, we'll talk. I forgot all 967 01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:52.360 about that one too. I forget, you know yet. You guys, 968 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.400 so much stuff going on, but we'll put it all on the show. 969 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.119 Notes Cool. Thank you, producing Jimmy. Thank you, Billy. It's 970 01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:02.480 been a pleasure as always. Absolutely will see you next time. All right, 971 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:06.960 everybody, and that is it. That is the creating daily show for 972 01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:10.440 today. Join US tomorrow at two PM. I get a I'm trying to 973 01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.000 figure out. I'm trying to remember who's going to be on the show, 974 01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:15.760 what the show is going to be about. I'm have too much fun. 975 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.760 You'll see it. I'm going to schedule it later today for tomorrow, but 976 01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.320 can be two PM Eastern. No, no, not tomorrow. Monday. 977 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.199 Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday. Come back. It's money Monday, 978 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:29.239 and I'm going to be sharing about how can you create your own product? 979 01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:31.159 That's what it is. Sorry, tomorrow, Saturday. See, I meant 980 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:35.440 to know what day is. Money Monday. How to create your own customer 981 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.679 apparel, make some money for your podcast, for your creative journey. I'm 982 01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.119 going to be breaking it all down. I spend about a decade in that 983 01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:45.360 industry and I'm going to share with you how you can do that with spending 984 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.679 a little to no money out of your pocket. But if you do want 985 01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:51.440 to spend some money out of your pocket, then buy me a coffee right 986 01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:52.960 there. I think the widget works. That's why I'm putting it on here 987 01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:55.639 to test it, to tell somebody else about it. But that's a little 988 01:01:55.639 --> 01:02:00.480 widget. You can buy me a coffee over, buy me coffeecom Billy Thorpe. 989 01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:04.360 All right, we'll see you guys Monday too, BM eastern time. 990 01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.360 We're going to be talking all the things about how to get your custom apparel 991 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.360 out in the world. All Right, see you