April 15, 2022

Booking Guests For Your Podcast

Booking Guests For Your Podcast

Drew Milden, podcast host of Drew vs. The World, has published over 100 episodes with most of them having a featured guest. We are going to jump into his strategy of outreach and booking of those guests.  

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:05.559 Center we are can really like you're listening to creating daily, there's something wrong 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:08.599 with you. You know that because you and I are like a mullets. 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:12.160 It is the is the business. So he's the front part of the haircut 4 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:16.000 and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're hilarious. Speaks 5 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:22.120 to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. What is going on? 6 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:26.079 Everyone? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. Today's April Fourteen, 7 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:28.440 two thousand and twenty two. I don't know why I said that. There's 8 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:32.960 probably a date pretty close to wherever you're watching this and I'm super pumped about 9 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:37.759 today's show. I get my friend drew mildon on the show from drew versus 10 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:42.880 the world podcast. He's booked over a hundred guests on his show and I'm 11 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:47.200 exciting to learn how, because I'm booking guests on the daily and I'm not 12 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:50.359 doing a very good job at it because actually I think it's him the wrong 13 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:53.479 link. And so he was like he literally came in, no pre show 14 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.200 conversation. I haven't even talked to him, which is like, what's up, 15 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.520 drew, here we go. So we're going to learn some best practices 16 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.000 along the way of how not to be like me and take care of your 17 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:04.920 guests better than I have. So I'm looking forward to not only learning, 18 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:10.840 but maybe a little bit of roasting from drew as far as my process on 19 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:14.159 this side of the Mike as the host. So anyway, we're going to 20 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:18.680 get into all that fun stuff. I'm super pumped. If you're watching somewhere 21 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:22.840 around, leave me a comment. If you're watching on Youtube, leave me 22 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:25.879 comment there. Let us know where you're watching from. If you're on bullhorn, 23 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:29.560 leaves the comment. They're also on bullhorn. There are some questions there 24 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.599 as well. All so you can put a little if you have a little 25 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:34.680 question for drew or myself, you can put it in a little question section. 26 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.519 If you're on Youtube, do a queue Cole and Bam whatever. And 27 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:42.280 I am I'm jacked up on some coffee. Got Knee jumping in over here 28 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:48.000 on Youtube. Still Messing up. Yes, knee, I'm always messing up 29 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:52.319 because that's what you do and you just do stuff and you throw them out 30 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.879 against the wall. And then we got nick over here on Bull Horn. 31 00:01:55.959 --> 00:02:00.120 We got Chris. Just did a demo of bullhorn with Nick. Chris said 32 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:01.719 Awesome, Chris. I think you're going to like it. Man, super 33 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:07.079 good platform. Anyway, let's get into a couple of little segments here. 34 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:12.879 What it's toll time with creating daily all right, so today's tool time is 35 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.479 a new tool that I just discovered. Actually, I discovered it a while 36 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:23.599 ago, did not implement it, and then I just launched a new subscription 37 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:30.240 base membership for my fishing podcast and I realized really quickly at a couple pieces 38 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:31.599 of that we're going to be a headache. So I started looking for a 39 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:40.240 software that can connect two different platforms and automate some processes like some welcome emails, 40 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:46.520 some access to a different APP. So I'm actually using Zappier. Let's 41 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.960 go between, or potentially I haven't haven't turned the on switch on yet, 42 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:55.680 but potentially to go between member press and hello audio. So basically, when 43 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.919 someone signs up for my membership, they will automatically be sent an access link 44 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:06.560 to the hell of audio private podcast feed and they will also if they cancel 45 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.919 their membership, then that communication will happen and they'll be kicked out of the 46 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:14.599 hello audio membership feed. So anyway, thought maybe some other creators can find 47 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.960 this useful, especially if you're doing membership stuff. It is. It's pretty 48 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:23.520 cool. It's fairly simple as well and, as you know, knee has 49 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:24.960 pointed out in the chats, I probably was going to mess it up, 50 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:28.879 but I'm going to figure it out and do that. So anyway, let's 51 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:35.719 move on to Creator highlights. No cooking necessary and no assembly required. It's 52 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.800 got to be fun, all right. Today's creator highlight is brought to you 53 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.120 by one sheet pro so. One sheet dot pro slash Billy Thorpe is we 54 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.439 can go check out my one sheet, and this is basically a one sheet 55 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:52.280 on steroids. Your whole Creator profile, your whole digital creator profile, all 56 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.520 in one place. If you want to get booked on more shows, if 57 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.599 you want to, you know, pitch a brand or whatever like this, 58 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.800 the whole media kit one she all together. They have an auto affiliate program 59 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.319 over there as well. So the more you share it, the more opportunity 60 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:08.680 you have to make money, which everybody knows that I like to be connected 61 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.840 with brands who give me opportunities to make money. And then also they have 62 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.599 a ranking system in their directory. So the more that you share it in, 63 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:16.920 the more that you show up in the more that you go to one 64 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:21.120 sheet, dot prolash, Billy Thorpe, the higher eye rank in the directory 65 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:26.319 in the bigger that it grows, the the bigger that directory grows, which, 66 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:28.920 by the way, is also a really great place to find guests. 67 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.959 The more that you rank within there, you know, gives you some clout, 68 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.040 I guess. I don't know, maybe we'll see, but anyway, 69 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:40.160 so go check those guys out in my my. Oh No, I mean 70 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:44.279 to hit this again because I messed up again. The Gosh, I'm keeping 71 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.639 score. Let me see if I can quiet another highlights. All right, 72 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:48.800 so there we got. I can quiet that down. The Creator highlight goes 73 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:54.199 to my friend Sean Anthony over at schools out. Now. What podcast? 74 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:58.639 So this is a podcast for former students to this really discover their gifts. 75 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.959 So to help them discover their gift. Super Awesome Creator. I met Shawan 76 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:08.759 over on clubhouse running podcasting rooms and super great guy. Do a lot of 77 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.959 cool stuff in the creator community. So go check out his podcast. Schools 78 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.639 over. Now what? So that is the creator highlight. Now I'm going 79 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.600 to welcome my friend drew on and we got a lot to we got. 80 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.800 We got it. We get even a pre show to catch up on. 81 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.240 So we get a lot to catch up on and learn how he's mastered the 82 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.759 skill of booking some guests. Drew, what's up, my man? Don't 83 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.319 say anything because I got to muted, as I always have. Everybody muted. 84 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:35.399 Maybe you can mute yourself, Kenya, because I muted you. There 85 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:40.120 you are about it. I got it, Dude. I need somebody to 86 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:44.040 just give me like a red button that's like guests mute, guest on mute 87 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.720 and then just plugs in USB and no matter what platform I'm on, it 88 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:51.439 recognizes the guests on Mute and mute button. That possible? Yeah, I 89 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:55.920 think you might have a plug in at Zapp here that does that for you. 90 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.839 So I hope that is APP beer. You know right. Maybe they. 91 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.079 Dude, that would be great. I'm sure he cam or stream deck 92 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.319 or somebody has it. I just haven't figured it out so anyway. But 93 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:10.600 Dude, before we jump into all about how you book these wonderful guests on 94 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:14.800 your podcast, please take a moment and share with us about your podcast, 95 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:17.079 about yourself and really anything you want to because we need to do a pre 96 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:21.079 show to learn any of this stuff. So go for it. Okay, 97 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.759 cool, Hey, drew crue, this is drew from drew verse the world, 98 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:30.800 where each week I share stories of people who are changing the world and 99 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:35.240 through your success and failures, I allow my listener become world changes themselves. 100 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:42.360 So you tune in every Monday on anywhere you listen to podcast and you'll be 101 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:46.120 able to learn a little bit more about other people, but definitely learn about 102 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:49.519 more about yourself. And at the end I wanted to everybody to understand it's 103 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:54.279 not just drew verse the world, it's you verse the world. Oh my 104 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.399 gosh, dude. First of all, the drew crew. I'm super I'm 105 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.000 envious, man. I want to come up with a community name for creating 106 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:06.240 daily community people, but I don't know what that is. So maybe we 107 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:12.319 can brainstorm it, create our lights. I don't know. Like the most 108 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.600 creative thing I came up with is like Creator people. Like I'm like, 109 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:21.759 that's not going to work. It's pretty sounds whatever. That's sounds like Sam 110 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:26.759 paper. All right, this terrible, like dide. This way you get 111 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.879 when you do a daily show. Your brain melts every day and you're like, 112 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.519 I can't come up with anything new. This is actually really good. 113 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:33.839 For me, so so new. Let's jump into this. Man, you 114 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:39.800 have over a hundred podcast episodes and a hundred percent of those are guests for 115 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:44.560 drew versus the world. Yes, a hundred percent of them are guests. 116 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.040 So, man, why did you start an interview show? That's kind of 117 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:50.040 my first question, so that that will go into a kind of the genesis 118 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:57.199 of the podcasts overall. The reason why I started in genesis your versus world. 119 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.120 That's actually I think that might be a segment I need to create. 120 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.680 But the reason why we came, I came up with the podcast in general 121 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:11.959 was because I always had a connection with people and out in the bars, 122 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:18.959 out traveling out just doing some flanthropy work, and also in just to workspaces. 123 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.000 I'm I was always able to sit down with anybody, and I say 124 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:26.199 their mother, and to turn about anything because I had a wide range of 125 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:31.600 experiences and usually the connection with people and what'll we call small talk, how 126 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:39.399 we becomes a conversation is through shared experiences. So once, once down the 127 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:45.519 alley, I was kind of looking at friends that were creatives themselves. Somewhere 128 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:52.720 rappers, some were music artists. It was like singing somewhere graphic designers and 129 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:58.200 videographers and things like that and some of the photographers, and I didn't have 130 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.799 that I and I didn't have the you know, the ability to wrap or 131 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:03.720 saying so we sat down. It was like, man, you could do 132 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.840 a podcast because you love talking to people, and I was like yeah, 133 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.679 man, but like why would anybody want to listen to me just talk for 134 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.879 fifteen or twenty at thirty minutes? I was like, you know what, 135 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:22.679 I'm usually able to ascertain a lot information through people by just having general conversations, 136 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.879 and what I used to come out of it is learning more about not 137 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.600 just them, but learning more about myself, and I kind of attribute a 138 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.320 lot of the stuff that I teach or a lot of stuff that's learned through 139 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:37.879 diverse the world, kind of similar to Avatar. I don't know if anybody 140 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:43.240 knows Avatar, the last airbender, is that he goes to these different lands, 141 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.960 specifically the different tribes, and learns a different element and through that different 142 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:54.279 element he becomes the whole empowerment of the Avatar. So that's what I think 143 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.039 through verse the world is about. Is About having these guests on and, 144 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.799 just like the Avatar, taking tidbits of their information and apply it to yourself 145 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.039 to become better version of yourselves. So that's the reason why I kind of 146 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.480 have an interview based podcast, because I think I could give more instead of 147 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:16.399 just chatting about what I've learned from somebody, but have that person up center 148 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.120 and actually sharing information about their lives. All right, man, I can 149 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.120 do it that. I like that. You know, the one thing that 150 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.840 I have always, and I'm not, been a podcaster who brings on guests. 151 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.840 Now my fishing show we do. That's where all the content comes from. 152 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.919 That's where all the you know, for us, the benefit really is 153 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.919 like that's the content, like that's the gold that they're the professionals were just 154 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.279 the guide to this kind of moving through the trail, if you will. 155 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.480 So for human it sounds like that. You know, some of the benefits 156 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.720 for you is like one you're personally learning to your letting. You know, 157 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:54.960 you're giving other people an opportunity to learn from your guests as well. Now, 158 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:00.320 from a podcast grows standpoint, and you've seen that to be valuable from 159 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:05.360 that point of like your guests really getting behind the episodes and helping promote yeah, 160 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:11.120 it's I find it's exponential growth every time I release episode just because of 161 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:16.840 a fact that it's basically a brag sheet for that person. It's like, 162 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:20.799 Hey, if if I want to, as a letsay author, I went 163 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.879 to say, Hey, read my book, but really you can say now 164 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.960 I hey, I have a podcast out there that really entails not just my 165 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.480 life but the reason behind me actually creating this book and also what you would 166 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.240 get from this book. And I can shoot this out with the masses. 167 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:43.240 Why not share this with my people? So it's sometimes, as we probably 168 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.639 all know, hard for you to get a guest to share the episode, 169 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:54.519 but usually when it's a good content and they are behind it and you see 170 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.200 that they're kind of clicking with the episode, they usually share it. And 171 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.440 what I do, and I'll get to those. You know how the aftermath 172 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:07.080 after actually have the podcast, I mean sorry, as actually after I record 173 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:15.200 the podcast, is I send a bunch of different like clips and social media 174 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.279 post and tags that they can and little write ups that they can add to 175 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.159 their websites and stuff like that, which helps them get a little bit more 176 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.759 into Oh, I don't have to do all this work myself. So now 177 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.320 I have these resources are called assets, that can just drag and drop into 178 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.799 these into my kind of, I would say, my machine of marketing. 179 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.000 Yeah, so I just call I call it a marketing tool for them. 180 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:43.519 So look at usually helps them a lot. So okay, so it sounds 181 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.399 like it helps you in a couple different ways, and specially growth if you 182 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.480 provide the right thing. So let's go from the process. Man. I 183 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:54.080 would love to hear your process, because my cohost actually manages all of our 184 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.639 guests and take now we've done over a hundred and something episodes as well, 185 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.720 but he's like managing that whole process. I'm not doing any of that. 186 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.120 Now, on creating daily I'm like, Dude, I'm trying to book for 187 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.440 at least, you know, probably three guests, three, two, maybe 188 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.840 four guests per week, and it's a little sloppy and I'm you know, 189 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:18.000 you're welcome to use my horrible process, as you know, as a tool 190 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.519 to teach. But let's started the very beginning, man, like so you've 191 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:22.480 told us why, you know where you should, you know why I should 192 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.919 have a guest on, but why? Where do you find these people? 193 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.559 You just find them anywhere, friends, family, recommend ays, like where 194 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.240 are you trying to find a guess because you're booking a lot. Your book 195 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.919 in one a week, right. Yeah, so I'm not going to hold 196 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:41.320 you. First and foremost, your background looks amazing and my background looks like 197 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.159 I'm in a penitentiary. I'm just going to I just want to put that 198 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.000 out there. That's I need to learn. I need to learn from that. 199 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:50.519 So if you have a created daily about that, I need to learn 200 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.960 how to light up my background. I'll tell you. Actually, I'll tell 201 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.440 you a real quick how to do it. This is a concrete wall that's 202 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:00.039 gray. Just go a little floodlight from Amazon, putting the floor and turn 203 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.879 it on and get another one to put on it like a shelf for something, 204 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.240 and put some crap back there. It's really okay, really yeah, 205 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.480 and it actually me, who, I'm sure he'll comment here in a second, 206 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.159 hates my backdrop. Actually says it all the time. It's terrible. 207 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.519 So anyway, he keeps me, keeps me humble. So anyway, back 208 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.759 back to how do you find these guests on your show? So I honestly 209 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:26.960 use instagram. That's been my place of choice. Just to cite there and 210 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:31.919 the reason why I use instagram or facebook and things like that is because when 211 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:37.159 I'm thinking about who I want to have on my episode or who I went 212 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.679 as a guest, I need to be generally interested in my person and usually 213 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.519 through facebook, instagram, social media, you can kind of see the highlights 214 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.200 of people and then you could dive. You don't know how much research you 215 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.559 can do about a person through just going through their social media and googling them, 216 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.639 going through her linkedin and you're like, Oh, I know you have 217 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.200 three kids, I know all the kids name, I know how tall they 218 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:05.759 are, I know you know you went to Zimbabwe in April two thousand and 219 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:09.320 twenty three and you had a horrible time. You was in this hotel like 220 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.320 this. So much that you can decipher from instagram. But also it's a 221 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:18.559 good medium because the DM's the sliding the DM. You just don't have to 222 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.120 do it when you know you trying to hollow. You can do it when 223 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:26.480 you're trying to get a guess too, because you can connect that general connection 224 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.559 with a photo. So, for instance, if you're like, you know, 225 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.879 hey, I really like that photo that you have of your kitchen set 226 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:39.000 and I was thinking about getting kitchen set. But also, while I'm here, 227 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:41.480 you look like an enter. It would be great to have your podcast 228 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.919 and I call it I say Brag about the person first, then hit him 229 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:52.720 with the axe about the podcast. So show a sign of general interest, 230 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:56.840 like Hey, I know that. You know I really enjoy you. Know 231 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:03.480 you're traveling or you're creating daily podcast and I really enjoyed what you've been showing 232 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.639 on a daily basis. I can't believe you've been doing it. I would 233 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:10.120 love to have you as a guest on the podcast and boom you can. 234 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:15.159 That's my general like first DM and then moving forward. You kind of got 235 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.519 the next steps of like reaching out as well. Okay, so you know, 236 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.039 first of all, you said that you can find out all this information. 237 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:25.240 I think it's pretty creepy. My wife and I talked about it all 238 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.840 the time, where we're like man, I can literally could spend a few 239 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:33.000 hours and learn about someone whole live and so I thought you're going in a 240 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:34.039 different direction there. For a second I thought you're gonna be like Hey, 241 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.440 look, man, I know how many kids you have, I know what 242 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.960 their room looks like, I know what your car you driving, know where 243 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:42.799 you live, so you better come on my podcast, like I thought. 244 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:47.279 That is where you're going like your daughter is taken, good luck. Yeah, 245 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.039 I'm going to steal your kid and your wife until you come on my 246 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.159 show. Hey, you got to do what you got to do sometimes, 247 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:59.480 right, but but I love it that you are that intentional about booking guests 248 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.799 and so far I have been as well. You know, luckily, I've 249 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:07.599 been in this group of a really amazing creators and content creator, so it's 250 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.200 not really that difficult for me to reach out and say, Hey, drew, 251 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:11.880 I you know, come on the show. I you got a lot 252 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.160 of value. I know what that is. I've been friends with you and 253 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.720 following you for a while. But I love that, if it is somebody 254 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.880 I want to connect with that might be just a little bit out of reach, 255 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:23.680 that you're saying, Hey, go engage with their content, go and 256 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.319 comment on stuff, but then shoot them at DM and you know, I 257 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.160 think that's good. I think that's a great strategy, man, because I 258 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.839 can't tell you how many emails I get, and I'm sure you're the same. 259 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.839 Oh, Hey, my client, Larry, is a allstar sales guy 260 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.160 and want to be on your podcast. I'm like, that's great, but 261 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.200 I don't have a podcast about sales. So I don't. It's why are 262 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.559 you emailing me? Stop doing that. Right. Here's here's the thing, 263 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:51.599 and you probably learned this through being in sales. You never let a lead 264 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.119 go by, right. So, yeah, what I would do in that 265 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:59.319 situation, even though he's not, you know, quote unquote, Larry's not 266 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:02.839 a good line, a good line for my podcast. I would be like 267 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.400 hey, but I do have a podcast friend that I would recommend you too, 268 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.640 and then I reach out to that podcast friend and say, Hey, 269 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.759 Larry is into business, but my pockets not really into business, can't would 270 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.079 you like to have my podcast? And then I create that connection. So 271 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:22.079 now when Larry has is on that podcast, he's like, Oh yeah, 272 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.759 drew is about let's see some wild topic and podcasting. Fishing, right, 273 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.039 let's say fishing, and his pockets is about fishing. So now he's going 274 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:37.119 to send his fishing friends to my way. So that's just never lose that 275 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:44.440 networking connection. But I've had a trillions of again, DM's emails, facebook 276 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.359 messages, carrier pigeons and text messages. Yeah, man, that's a great 277 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.279 strategy to draw. I love that man. Like don't, because some oftentimes 278 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.599 I get a little frustrated to might even send a Zinger back, like dude, 279 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.319 like do a better job, have a great day, don't ever reach 280 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.559 out again. But the booking for podcast or so maybe I should chill out 281 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:07.000 a little bit. I probably missed the opportunity me. It's your hat, 282 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.960 forward or backwards. Me Do this because we word is evil billy and backwards 283 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:14.119 is nice billy. So I just want to make you more yeah, so 284 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:18.000 backwards had is billies having a rough hair day or needs a haircut or the 285 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.960 hair sprays out or you know whatever, like I have the world's worst hair, 286 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:26.799 but anyhow, so we can move on a little bit from my hair 287 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:30.960 and talk more about yes, so when you're doing when you're like, I'm 288 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.680 going to call it prospecting. will use them sales terms. You're like, 289 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.160 when you're prospecting potential guests, how are you keeping these things organized? You 290 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.839 like putting, putting potentials in a spreadsheet. Like how are you keeping up 291 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:48.319 with the with the guest pitches? So again, I'm not going to hold 292 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:55.039 you or I'm not going to fake the funk. I I'm not really organized 293 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:59.839 in that strategy, but I've become I'm becoming more organized. So I do 294 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:03.319 have a spreadsheet that has all my guests that I have on and that I 295 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:08.079 plan on having on. I don't update as much as I should, but 296 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:14.799 what I like to do is have basically three columns at the moment, one 297 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:18.680 column with the guest name, one column with the recording date and one column 298 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:23.680 with the potential air date, and that allows me to be a little bit 299 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:29.599 more organized for Kating, creating a content for that episode, like Social Media 300 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:36.599 Post and emails, and making sure that the guests has been sent out the 301 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:41.160 email for them to actually be a part of the podcast and a link to 302 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:47.200 going to the the virtual studio that I'm using at the current time. So 303 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:49.960 that's kind of my strategy at the moment. But I am moving to things 304 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:57.359 like Trello, I think was another one, basically some kind of compo combine 305 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:03.160 board set up where then I can manage that through a system like maybe Zappier 306 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:15.359 and conjunction with my counter league calendar that I use currently for Brainin part that 307 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:22.279 use currently for getting my guests to book time on my calendar. Okay, 308 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.960 yeah, man, I just started doing that with with Trello, because I 309 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.160 used Trollo for like like sponsorship out reaching, all that kind of stuff. 310 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:32.720 I'm like, man, I should do this because there's somebody you know. 311 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:36.400 I was in a room yesterday and a linkedin audio room. Super Great Guy 312 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:37.880 was on the stage talking. I'm like God, he'd be perfect for the 313 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.640 podcast. And then I'm over here writing notes. I'm like, I'm going 314 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:44.519 to lose that. Why am I doing that? So that's a good tip. 315 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:47.559 Man, like get a Trelloh or, you know, spreadsheet or just 316 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.279 a Google doc or whatever. So once you do that, man, what 317 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:56.039 is you so you got that? You got that kind of organized. Do 318 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.240 you do like a precall screening? Like how are you qualifying? Because maybe 319 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.480 you like them on their highlight real on instagram or linked in or facebook, 320 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.720 but how do you dig a level deeper? Because I'm not really doing that 321 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.079 right now. I'm just like booking people because I know them. I feel 322 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:15.000 like I know them pretty good. But for strangers, I guess. What's 323 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.680 your qualification process? It's funny that you say that, because me you met 324 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.160 a cliphouse. You don't know me from nobody, so you do kind of 325 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.880 know my holly. I like real as well. But all in all, 326 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:33.279 honestly, I don't have precalls. I, Um, I'm a person of 327 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:38.480 if you can fill out my calendarly, then I think that you're at least 328 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.440 good enough to be on a podcast. Okay, so two things. I 329 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:45.799 always ask them to fill out the countardly and I always asks him to fill 330 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:51.880 out a form. I use Google forms and has old information. I need 331 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:56.759 to create show notes also to create these social media templates and things like that. 332 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.480 Okay, and if you're if you're good enough to fill out that, 333 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:06.599 I think that you're least reasonable person to be on a pocast. And I've 334 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.559 always said I can talk to a wall. So I don't care if you're 335 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:18.039 if you're you know, I had a podcast about about flat earth and the 336 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:26.880 gentleman was a flat earth and he is his guess, his his ideas were 337 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.720 kind of not are not commonplace in the world. Yeah, so instead of 338 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.440 me like berating him and being like yeah, wrong, wrong, for my 339 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:41.400 mind point is like hey, how can I understand what he understands and why 340 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:45.480 he understands it? So if you just take a different spin on how you 341 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:51.000 gathering this information, you'll never have a bad guess, you'll just have bad 342 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:53.640 episodes, if that makes sense. Let makes sense. Yeah, I get 343 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.160 it, but that flat earth episode, by the way, it was great. 344 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.680 So people should definitely look that up and check it out. A lot 345 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.640 of fun. All right, so you're so you're kind of keeping organized your 346 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.200 like Trello or spreadsheet or whatnot. You're reaching out to people, you're sending 347 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.640 them and this is what I think it's confusing because I have a calendarly as 348 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.960 well. I only have a few questions on it. But what is your 349 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.599 calendarly? What does that until? What do you what are you asking of 350 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:19.519 them to fill out and give to you? So this is why I say 351 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:22.720 that, if you're going to so, I have a two top two step 352 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:27.359 process. My coundarly is pretty simple, direct and free, and then I 353 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:34.279 go to forms, where I then send a google form to the guests, 354 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:40.119 and Google form, since I use a lot of google products, like Google 355 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.400 driving, all that stuff. It sends like, for instance, I get 356 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:47.559 there their head shot or something like that in Google forms and said it saves 357 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.440 it into a folder where then I could just pull it from my phone into 358 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:56.640 Canava. So my first line of defense is, can you fell the candidly? 359 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.799 My second line defenses can you fill out the form my third line defenses. 360 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:06.359 Can you show up on time and when I send you to correct link, 361 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.599 because my leg doesn't change, it's just you need to be there on 362 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:15.079 time. So that's kind of my process moving forward after that. Okay, 363 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.039 got it, because, yeah, that's where I'm at right now. I'm 364 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.160 trying to figure out like how do I use somebody said, because I put 365 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:23.720 stuff out there and say hey, anybody want to be on the show? 366 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:27.640 Blah, Blah Blah, and then I give people just you know, influx 367 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.400 with people like I want to be on the show'm be on the show, 368 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.920 but then I don't really have like a good application process. And then I 369 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.599 send them the calendarly and then they get on my calendar and now I feel 370 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.680 obligated because I'm like, even if they even if I read their stuff, 371 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.400 I'm like, yeah, I'm not really that interested. Then you know that 372 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.519 I mean. But I guess I should do I mean to do a little 373 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:51.519 research before I just don't invite anyone. So send them out there, but 374 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:56.440 I'm kind of looking for something. Maybe we're the form is first, then 375 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:00.119 I send the calendarly once it's approved. So maybe like an application and then 376 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.839 so you can do that you could do what I do and reverse yeah, 377 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:06.079 and reverse you like yeah, here's, here's the form is. Fill out 378 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:10.359 the form. Okay, now you're in a queue. Got and that person 379 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:15.079 is in a queue and you can review them weekly or every other day or 380 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.839 something like that and just say, okay, I think you're a good fit, 381 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.000 thank you for filling out the form. Boom. Or even when you 382 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:23.359 fell out form, when you fill out form and Google forms, you can 383 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.200 have like a little pop up screen that says, thank you for filling a 384 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.519 form. Please wait for later, for on future response and calendar invites or 385 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.720 whatever. So give them hope at lace give them some hope before you crash 386 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:37.119 them. All right, man. So, so we kind of learn about 387 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.880 tools and soft now, when it comes to booking guests or looking for guests, 388 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.599 are you like putting this on your calendar to batch do this, or 389 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.000 you just doing it at inspiration? You see something on Instagram, you reach 390 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:56.039 out, like, how's your your outreach process? It's basically as like you 391 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.839 everybody probably just heard, I'm very like all over the place. So it's 392 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.680 kind of like that's fair. That's when the when I see somebody who I'm 393 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.640 again generally interested I used to just reach out, but what I try to 394 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:14.359 do is at least once a week. It might be on Monday, might 395 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.720 be on Tuesday, might be on Friday, whenever, reach out to at 396 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:22.920 least one person that I find interesting. Okay, and usually, like Frances, 397 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:27.799 my my calendar right now is booked until about, I think, mid 398 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:33.880 May or beginning June. So to have a batch of people that I can 399 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.880 always, you know, have on a podcast. Plus I have a batch 400 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.880 of friends that I know that if if I need to, they could come 401 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:47.039 back on or that's another that's a another thing I will talk about later, 402 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:52.480 of how to interact with your guests after the episodes to maybe having part two 403 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:57.920 and then you have extra content and and it's a creative way how to reuse 404 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.759 an episode and things like that. But that's kind of my process. Is 405 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.839 like at least once a week, I reach out to at least one person 406 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.039 and just say hey, you know, I again just put that feeler out 407 00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.160 there. Hey, I like your content, I like what you've been doing. 408 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.279 Would you like to be a guest on podcast? Another place that's good 409 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.440 for that, not just instagram, is clubhouse. Now clubhouse, I like 410 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.559 to just go around to some crazy rooms sometimes, but I like to go 411 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:29.920 around to the rooms and if something hits like somebody's like conversation hits me on 412 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.920 like hey, you'd be a great on pot on the on the podcast coming 413 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.680 up is in a couple weeks here I'm going to have somebody on by the 414 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:42.680 name of espree on and it was the face of clubhouse right. Yeah, 415 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:48.240 and and she, me and her connected on a different types of different type 416 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.920 or post syndrome level and she was such a great resource for me. So 417 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.400 I was like, I have to have you on. And what I have 418 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.839 ever known about a spree if I was in a clubhouse? No, but 419 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.200 that I reach out to her. Yes, and she gave me a lot 420 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.880 of inspiration. And and again I did the Brag and then I did that, 421 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.640 hey, would you like to be my pocket? She said, I 422 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.880 would love to. So just keep this, make sure you're consistent, make 423 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:18.319 sure don't over ride, don't over over exert yourself. They'll make it. 424 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.519 Oh, I need to reach out to seventeen people to this week. Reach 425 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.119 out to one person. Make sure you unless you're a billy and want to 426 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.799 do something daily, but just reach out to he'll do one person you start 427 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.319 one person and then you can move on forward to as many as you would 428 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.799 like. Just make sure that your booked. I would say make sure your 429 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.680 book, your calendar, is booked up for at least a month to have 430 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.200 some padding. Okay, now are you badge recording news as well? Are 431 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.279 you trying to record? Yeah, multiple week or multiple day. I have 432 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:52.279 right now about seven in the queue. Let's go. So it's good. 433 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.799 I just I try to make sure that if I want to take a long 434 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.359 break or I want to, you know, just celebrate our birthday for a 435 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.799 week or something like that and I don't want to release episode, I could 436 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:07.519 just hit push published and all that that episodes out. Yeah, man, 437 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:08.839 that's it. That's that's the way to do it. I think if he 438 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.559 can, you know, like I mean obviously creating daily I can't. But 439 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.119 for my fishing show do we get eight or ten in the bank like Rad 440 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.160 to rock and roll. So we're pretty excited about that. So, men, 441 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.200 are you having people when you're in this booking process and they're doing your 442 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.119 Calendari and they're doing your Google form? Is there like a release waiver, 443 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.920 like a press release waiver or something of that nature? Like I've never been 444 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.119 good at making sure this is a part of the package. Yeah, me 445 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.799 too, and I know I should be because there's some crazy stuff that sometimes 446 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.880 said and I am the type of podcast I do not like to take out 447 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.400 anything inside. I'm taking out the episode or I'm taking I'm not taking out 448 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.759 anything, and I'm pretty like the ums the eyes you probably heard during this 449 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:59.480 this episode happens during the root, like a drew verse of World Episode. 450 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.279 I've become a lot better with it, but it happens in conversation. But 451 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.720 I think that the whole few waivers and stuff like that, once I become, 452 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.759 you know, big wig like billy over here, I should definitely implement 453 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:17.720 it just in case. And I don't you know the only reason that now 454 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:19.640 not on this show, but I was getting ready to start interviewing people and 455 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.519 creating for money, but then I decide to do creating daily and I probably 456 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.680 need to implement this feature and I think I don't want to let the cat 457 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.599 out of the bag, but I think one sheet pros working on a guess 458 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.839 intake form as well. Yeah, so, so hopefully that's if you haven't 459 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.920 go to one she PROCOM or go to one sheet dot pros, last billy 460 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.480 good, Billy Thorpe, and then and then sign up for one sheet. 461 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:42.759 That way, if you buy it, I get a commission. But anyhow, 462 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.880 I think they're going to do something like that. That may include like 463 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.880 a waiver or something of that nature. Say Hey, once you, once 464 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.119 you sign up, like. But that's the thing that I haven't really had 465 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.680 anybody come back to me and say, Hey, take down that episode. 466 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:02.000 I don't want to have you had anything like that before. Um, there's 467 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:07.640 been some episodes I want to take down, but there isn't hasn't been anybody 468 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.240 who I really would say, Oh, they came back and said, Oh, 469 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.559 I shouldn't have said that or anything like that. I haven't had a 470 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:21.519 conversation and I think that's important as a interview were to really this is not 471 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.680 I got you a moment and if the person has that kind of like, 472 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:31.279 for instance, I would say I my episode with Carol Baskins Baskin released recently. 473 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.000 I reach it to the main feed. I could ask the question everybody 474 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.119 wanted ever me to acts but I'm like no, we're having a good time. 475 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:44.079 I really want to understand her life. I want to stand her background 476 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:50.400 and once you established that as an interview where people come a little bit more, 477 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.400 have the billy and more to tell you more and feel more comfortable about 478 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.200 what they're telling you, because when it comes from my heart, they just 479 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.079 like hey, listen, it is what it is. Yeah, so I 480 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.359 mean that's good, man. That's a good and maybe you speaking of kind 481 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.880 of following up and doing another show. Maybe you and I could jump on 482 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:12.440 another episode sometime and talk about the interviewing process, because once again, it's 483 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.160 something I'm trying to get better at. I mean, you would think doing 484 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.640 it every day I would get better way faster, but I still struggle at 485 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.160 times. So that's that's a good point, man. Like do a good 486 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.200 job for other people that you're talking to and in kind of treat them as 487 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.200 you want to be treated, and then you know, maybe bigger names will 488 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.720 come on and be more vulnerable with you're not bigger names, but more people 489 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.279 and the people you want will come on and be more vulnerable with you. 490 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.000 I think that's a good too. That's a good takeaway from this episode for 491 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:43.160 sure. So you've talked about you have some repeat guests on. Now what 492 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:47.319 if an interview just goes south like what do you what do you do with 493 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:52.359 that guess? How do you handle that guess that way? So I had 494 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:58.920 when episode that went south. Well, two instances when episode went southist because 495 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.200 I had the person on and they're very shut mouth, I like to call 496 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.720 it. They didn't, they do want to say anything. They want to 497 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.519 talk about anything. They I asked them, I say, do you know 498 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:14.199 you're being recorded? Are you know you're on a podcast? And they really 499 00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:19.280 didn't have any intent on actually having a conversation that day. For some reason 500 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.159 they were very gungho about being in a podcast, but that day didn't really 501 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.400 have a conversation. So at that time I just kind of reached out to 502 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:32.719 him. I said, Hey, I cannot who least episode because it has 503 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.760 no value to anybody that's going to be listened to it. It has no 504 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.320 like, puny and points, it has no nothing that you're giving to them 505 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.880 and it's nothing. I'm taken away from it, and that's an important thing 506 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.199 too, as I said in beginning, is I'm not just I'm taking away 507 00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.079 from the listeners, take away from the guests, but I'm also taking away 508 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:52.039 from the guests. And if I can't get no value out, what you're 509 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.360 saying. I know the listeners not going to get any value that which is 510 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.519 saying. So I kind of just reached out to him was like hey, 511 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.480 this I can't release episode. We can record another episode if you would like, 512 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.920 but this is not going out this week. And I've never got a 513 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.639 response back from that person, but that is what it is. And then 514 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:13.599 the second one was the episode had horrible, horrible sound, and I did 515 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.519 not want to release this episode. Had A horrible sound, like horrible quality, 516 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.639 and I knew I was never going to get this guest again because he 517 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:25.320 gave me hit bit of his time and he he's really in famous cook and 518 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:30.679 he has his whole like media company behind him, everything like that. And 519 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.039 I said, you know what, I'm just going to release this episode because 520 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.079 that episode had all the nuggets, like all the chunks another and I was 521 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.880 like there's it's hard to create, recreate because he was in a moment where 522 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.679 of vulnerability that I don't think he would get to again. So I just 523 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.639 released the episode and I said, Hey, man, the episode is going 524 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:55.000 to have horrible audio, but every point that you had sounds great. I 525 00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.960 leveled it. Make sure that at least two points that you had there came 526 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:04.239 out and was the most important part of our conversation. So man, yeah, 527 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.960 yeah, sometimes you get to do that. I've been there before too. 528 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.559 I'm a man. This audio isn't great, but did the content was 529 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.599 so fire like I'm just going to release it. If people complain, like 530 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.119 maybe they'll see through it because it's so good. Man. So you've mentioned 531 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.119 Carol basking, you mentioned this famous chief and I know people always ask this 532 00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.639 question when I'm in clubhouse rooms about booking guests. How do you go about 533 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:31.280 getting bigger name people on your show? I don't this is going to sound 534 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:37.880 very brazen and very like you lying, but I don't think. I try 535 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:44.480 to keep very bay the same level, and that's what I think helps, 536 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.320 because when I DM somebody, I'm like, yeah, you're going to reach 537 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.079 out or you're not going to. You're going to say no. You gotta 538 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.039 say yes. Yeah, so I don't care who you are. Maybe have 539 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.840 to go through different channels to actually get you on or potentially get you on, 540 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.320 but what I'm going to do is have the same respect for you as 541 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.199 I would have somebody who wrokes down the street or at a piece of shop, 542 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.719 because then when you level set that and have a good baseline, at 543 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.760 the end of the day, it doesn't care. I don't care if you're 544 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.519 making a hundred million dollars or seven hundred and fifty at the McDonald's, you're 545 00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:21.280 going to get some value from that person. Yeah, so that's that's the 546 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.000 I think a good way to have that a different type of mindset when you 547 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:29.559 reaching out to these quote unquote bigger people is to just have the mindset that 548 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:34.519 they're this. There's somebody who literally was born a same same way you was 549 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.880 born. They might have different circumstances, but they either they came out as 550 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.119 something. Yeah, right, I'm not going to see like I just yeah, 551 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.920 it's and then when you have that type of level again, I reach 552 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.719 out to DM's but, most importantly, a lot of people that are have 553 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.119 the you know, higher counts of followers. Usually dms are flooded, so 554 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:59.800 you might not get heard. So I would either a reach out, try 555 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:05.840 to look up their publicists or be they usually might have a contact on their 556 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.760 email. So I mean on their instagram, you click that contact and send 557 00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:15.320 that information that contact, or you can just legitimately go on facebook, finds 558 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:22.239 or Google find their their email. You can literally Google like their e mail 559 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:28.119 and just follow it like that, or or do a good old try their 560 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.440 first name, dot their last name at gmailcom. That's a good one. 561 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.360 So reaching out, to reach out to bigger name guesses similar to reaching out 562 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.880 the sponsors. It's a very, very similar game, like you're trying to 563 00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:44.000 get somebody to trying to, quote unquote, sell someone something. I couldn't 564 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.840 the idea of being on your show or what not. So yeah, man, 565 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:51.239 that's good. I like that, that approach of and it's in like 566 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.599 you, Cem entry, people like people like I treat big brands like big 567 00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.920 brands. Yeah, sure, they're big brands, but they got people just 568 00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.320 like me working there and making the visions, and so the more human I 569 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.800 treat them, the more human they'll be in and be on the show or, 570 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.559 you know, do a deal with me or whatever. So I love 571 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.400 that Mans. So what's let's talk about your kind of your follow up approach. 572 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:14.719 So you got the guests on, you've told us how to do that, 573 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.960 you've done the interview, you've published it. You told us in the 574 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.719 beginning you give them some creative assets to help market the show. Now that 575 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.199 all the dust is settled, what are you doing to continue those relationships so 576 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.280 you can have them back on later or do another project with them? So 577 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:37.039 what I like to do definitely now is reach out to them during the episode, 578 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.360 or maybe after episode has dropped, and just ask them if they want 579 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.960 to do ig live. So I've been doing that for a while and what 580 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.119 that's been helping with is usually when you go live it pops up to your 581 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.000 audience, but doing igilive with somebody else, with that person, it pops 582 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.239 up to their audience. So now they get to know who you are, 583 00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.079 they get to understand, oh, she was on a she or he was 584 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:06.760 on episode of Jean Verse The World. Maybe I should go and look at 585 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.360 that. So that's a mechanism that I would so I call it that's kind 586 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:14.239 of like the recap episodes. So you can do it. I on a 587 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.880 feet, you can do it on facebook live, you can do it on 588 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:22.519 here, you can do it on anywhere you want, but a recap to 589 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.840 engage their audience with your audience. But IG is how I do it. 590 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:32.360 Secondly, reaching out is another thing that people kind of take for granted, 591 00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.800 just the fact of just like saying hey, how are you doing? As 592 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.760 everything all right? How can the one thing I like to say is, 593 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.840 Hey, I hope you're doing well. How can I help you? Okay, 594 00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:49.519 and that in a lot of people they're like, they're probably say nothing, 595 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.880 I'm doing fine and no, I don't really need no help or anything 596 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.039 at that time. But some people be like, oh, man, you 597 00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.920 know, I have this new project that I'm going out would love to, 598 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:05.239 you know, work with you on on actually being on the podcast, or 599 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.840 would you like to market this for me or help me out with stuff like 600 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.719 that, and that gives you an interaction with somebody that you had in a 601 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:15.239 podcast now from a creative standpoint as well. So reaching out, I usually 602 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:21.519 try to do it from a month, so it's Muff, five, Munth 603 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:27.039 and year, and then yearly reach out just kind of like yearly, just 604 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.760 be like hey, how hope was hope as well? How's the kids? 605 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.400 And I'll just tell you a quick story about how that was super helpful. 606 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:39.800 I had a young lady on the podcast and she was a can't just survivor 607 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:46.519 and she talked about her her experience of cancer and surviving and also with her 608 00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:55.559 family and creating different festivals, music festivals in our hometown of Ireland and I 609 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.639 was like hey, you wanted to recap episode on its instagram and she's like 610 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.239 yeah, you know, right now I'm in Mexico and I'm okay, yeah, 611 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.559 we could do it whenever you want. So we figured that out forget 612 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.800 to time out and we she got on the recap and she was like hey, 613 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.360 drew, it has been a long time. Yeah, I've had covid 614 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.800 and cancer and the same week since I like yeah, that's the same thing. 615 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:24.320 I said the same eye movements as I have covid and cancer the last 616 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:30.000 week of December, and she talked about her experiences that in that she talked 617 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.760 about how she, you know, how she lit was listening to the episode 618 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.119 and she was really like intrigued about how she was back then before she actually 619 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:45.280 had those diagnosis, and she talked about her how she's getting help, how 620 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:46.800 she went to Du buy for a little bit, how she then she went 621 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:52.719 to Mexico. So those recap episodes also allow you to generally connect back with 622 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.840 a person, not just a guess, with a person, and that was, 623 00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:00.400 I would say, the most, excuse me, the best experience I 624 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.079 had with one of those recaps, because I'm like wow, you're overcoming so 625 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:12.360 much that you've already overcome and it just allowed my guests to explain themselves and 626 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.559 allowed by listenors direct with that story as well. Wow, man, that's 627 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.639 but yeah, that's powerful, man, and I think that's some power of 628 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.960 podcast, seeing the power of, you know, bringing on guests, and 629 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.039 that was, you know, like one I, you know, had this 630 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.920 fishing show and yeah, the guests is bringing the values, bringing the content, 631 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.559 but it's this networking tool as well. It's like I've met so many 632 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.679 awesome people through that show and then I've met so many awesome people through like 633 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.199 social audio and clubhouse and then creating daily. It was like man, I 634 00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.039 want to I want to bring people and have these one on one conversations, 635 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.559 because sometimes clubhouse can be a crowd and you're like trying to you know, 636 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.599 do like crowd control, you know, while you're trying to have these meaningful 637 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.800 conversations, and so I love that point of like, you know, you 638 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.280 can bring people on, people you want to network with, people you want 639 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.639 to get to know and really use it as that introductory man. So that's 640 00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:06.840 that's pretty kill or so drew is there anything did I just looked at the 641 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.000 time I'm like, holy smokes man, we were just having a good time 642 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.039 and this one get. When you get to podcasters together, we just talk 643 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.440 all day about the stuff. But is there any other like strategies or tips 644 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.280 or anything that I didn't really set you up to say that you like to 645 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:30.199 share? MMM, I think I've touched it, touched on a little bit. 646 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:36.599 But persistence is key. And again, billy, you're from a sales 647 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.800 background, so you know that every no just leads you to when yes, 648 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:47.039 and that's not and I think you said that in a and a clubhouse room 649 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:52.400 about brand deals and sponsorships. But that's also in line with getting guests as 650 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.960 well. Yeah, so don't don't put your head down when somebody says no, 651 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.159 I can't do that or or no, you can't, I can't do 652 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:06.519 that this time. Just keep follow up. So after that first know, 653 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.760 follow up in a month and I follow up in two months, follow up 654 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:13.480 in three months, and until that person is basically annoyed of you and it's 655 00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.880 like it also gives a little, you know, a little pattern their back 656 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.159 like Oh, this person really wants me on the podcast or really wants me 657 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.760 as a guest and then you never know. They're like, you know what, 658 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:28.159 it's kind of like Steve Arkle when he's going out after Laura's like, 659 00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.119 I'm wearing you down, girl, I'm wearing you down. It's kind of 660 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.440 have to wear them down sometimes to have them on the on the podcast. 661 00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:40.719 But I would say keep on pursuing that person that you really want, if 662 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:45.159 you have a genuine love for that person, and really don't look at the 663 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.800 numbers of people. So instagram is a game of numbers. So you might 664 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.480 see somebody with two million followers and you like, I have no one podcast. 665 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:59.079 You like that's the person's garbage. The person's already sold to like a 666 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.199 Pepsi or Colda Cola and they can't see. But some so, so many 667 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.719 things. But if you get that person, for example, the person I 668 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.039 talked to that it's a cancer survivor and lives in Scotland, had doesn't have 669 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.760 that many followers at all. She had the most compet one of the most 670 00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.719 compelling stories I've ever heard of my life of fighting through so those are two 671 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.559 tips. I say. Don't, don't, don't look at the numbers and 672 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.280 be persistent. If you really generally want somebody as a guest. Yeah, 673 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.360 man, I love it, dude, and I think you can. You 674 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.440 know, I think another really cool thing about podcasting is, and I've you 675 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.199 know, I kind of realized this as I was I had a podcast studio 676 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.840 and there was a guy in there, and it's still still a friend. 677 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.320 I still, you know, host his podcast, but he has a surfing 678 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:49.800 podcast and he was calling up this old friend that he hadn't talked to him 679 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.000 like years to talk about surfing and I'm just producing, I'm not on the 680 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.199 show, I'm not having the conversation, I'm just listening and watching and pushing 681 00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.639 buttons and all of a sudden, man, I like clicked and that moment 682 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.000 I'm like, Dude, I'm creating a time capsule. Like these guys are 683 00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.079 catching up after ten years. They're talking about their childhood, they're talking about 684 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.079 all this stuff, and I'm like, I'm not just creating content, I'm 685 00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.840 not just trying to, you know, make a buck, but I'm over 686 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.079 here creating a little time capsules are going to live on forever and ever and 687 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:20.880 people can, you know, put these files on hard drives and our kids 688 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.000 and children's children can go back and watch the stuff that we created in you 689 00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.760 know, learn from it, grow from it, or just go oh, 690 00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.079 look old pops, he's just big KNUCKLEHEAD, you know whatever like. So, 691 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:35.320 yeah, man, I think it's really cool. You know what you're 692 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.760 doing, drew, and having people on your show and creating those moments and 693 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.280 those memories, not only for yourself and your family but for other people in 694 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.440 their families. I think that's pretty dope. And Yeah, man, I 695 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:47.960 really appreciate you coming on the show and I'm gonna I'm going to let you 696 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.440 promote some stuff and tell people where they can find you. But while I'm 697 00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.559 doing that, if anybody has any questions, I feel free to drop it 698 00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.960 in the chat for drew. And we do like a little brief Qa session 699 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:02.320 here and if you're on bullhorn, I got this little fancy bullhorn scene I 700 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.840 think will work. Oh yeah, so there you go. So, Chris 701 00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:09.440 Vakil vaglios in the in the chat there, but a little questions and chat 702 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.039 section. So feel free to do that. But drew, where can people 703 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.800 connect with you? I know you're a man of many talents and ens and 704 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.920 you're doing a lot of cool stuff and different co hosting on different podcasts and 705 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.559 all kind of stuff we hadn't even talked about. But please share what share 706 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:30.360 what you want with how people can connect with you every anywhere. Anywhere you 707 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:37.000 want to connect with me would be on drew verse WorldCom Also Instagram, doumers 708 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:43.480 world podcast. I'm also a guest host on the back of a cereal box 709 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:53.559 podcast every second Saturday of the month and we talked about childhood trahood dreams and 710 00:48:53.840 --> 00:49:00.159 childhood shows and comic books and all that good stuff. And again, if 711 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:05.239 you listen to if you're listening to this podcast, you can find me there. 712 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.599 Just type in juiversity the WorldCom every Monday. Awesome, man, love 713 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:12.320 it. Yeah, the back the zero box is super amounts of fun and 714 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.519 we jup over here real quick to the bullhorn chat because we got Chris saying 715 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.800 this was an amazing interview. Thinky, Chris it. I agree, man, 716 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.239 as a lot of fun, which drew, you know, obviously stated 717 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.159 that he can talk to a wall. So did a pretty good job talking 718 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.679 to this wall today, so appreciate that. In the they says drews the 719 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.320 man and love the podcast. True. So thank you. Yeah, man, 720 00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.280 you have you got a phenomenal fan base. Out There of people who 721 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.920 love you and I get a question for you. On the event side of 722 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:45.039 stuff. Are you doing another podcast event there and Charlotte area? It's great 723 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.199 that you said that because I am on and I just got an email about 724 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:52.719 a couple of minutes ago the last Thursday of this month, which would be 725 00:49:53.800 --> 00:50:00.280 the twenty Ay, Af are you doing them once a month? Doing once 726 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:01.840 a month? Okay, dude, I'm might, I won't. Probably won't 727 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.679 make it next month, but I'm moving next month. So maybe June. 728 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.719 If you do one in June, maybe June to okay, well, I 729 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.519 will make sure to have one in June just for you. Yeah, say, 730 00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:15.760 I think we're going to have like one car when we get back. 731 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:17.960 I don't know if we'll have to by then, but if not, I'm 732 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.679 sure I pick you up. It's fine, like three hours from you, 733 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:23.599 but I want to come up and check it out, man. I think 734 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:28.199 it'd be super fine. But yeah, we meet in the middle and go 735 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.360 to Mr Beast place and then head to I think he's in. I think 736 00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:36.599 he's in somewhere between the two of us. That's not a bad idea. 737 00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.639 Yeah, well, we'll talk about that. But yeah, podcast meet up 738 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.559 on April twenty eight. It's where you can learn a little bit more podcast 739 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.239 and it's funny because the special like topic of this episode, I mean of 740 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.719 this podcast meet up, is going to be videography. So we could talk 741 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:59.800 about anything about video and how to add video to your podcast and how to 742 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:01.880 you know, you short clips and how to upload it to Youtube, all 743 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.039 that good stuff as well. As well, I'm also going to be doing 744 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:14.800 a live podcast from Charlotte Cigar Week in two weeks, started on the twenty 745 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.840 one. I would be at the VIP events and interviewing people that have made 746 00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:24.519 cigars, that are enthusiast and fishing Nados and again learning a little bit more 747 00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:30.599 about my little little bit more myself, as well as allow my guests to 748 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.199 learn a little bit more from the guests. I mean loud my audience, 749 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.760 learn a little bit more about the guests as well. Man, I dude, 750 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.000 I think you know. First of all, drew, I love that 751 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.159 you're doing the podcast meet up. Obviously I think that's super dope. And 752 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.119 then the going live from the cigar place and doing that, I think that 753 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:53.199 is another amazing potential stream of revenue for creators. It's like that's our talent, 754 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:57.320 man, that's what we do. We show up and we have conversations 755 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.360 and we create spaces for people, and so hopefully somebody listen to this will 756 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:06.039 be inspired by that to say how can I go to a local event or 757 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.920 maybe even travel to an event and get compensated to sit down and and, 758 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:15.360 you know, talk to people and really promote the event through a live stream? 759 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.039 I think that's a really innovative thing that you're doing, so I really 760 00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:21.679 appreciate you sharing that as well. So awesome, drew. Well, man, 761 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.199 I appreciate your bro High Five from a long day, really long distance 762 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:29.599 right now. Will be closer sooner and be able to maybe connect and hang 763 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.559 out and do all this fun things. So I really appreciate your man. 764 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:36.400 Thank you really thank you so much for having me on your at your show. 765 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.519 Is Amazing. I can't believe you're doing a daily show. Extremely Great 766 00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:45.440 and generous with your time, and thanks for everybody WHO's listening and can here 767 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.519 to sound my voice and, as always, love, peace, chicken grease, 768 00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:52.880 love it, man. All right, there you go. That is 769 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.199 my friend, drew mild and please go follow him. Drew versus the world 770 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.079 everywhere. That drew versus the world that you can find it. He'll be 771 00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.920 there, so go check him out. And then tomorrow I'm going to be 772 00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.239 back here at two PM eastern time with my friend my coast. I have 773 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.400 a guest co host on Friday's his name is Sid Meadows and we're going to 774 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:13.440 dive into his world of digital sales and what that looks like to grow your 775 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.960 business, how to use all this stuff that we're using, podcasting, live 776 00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:20.800 streaming and whatever else that he does. Like he's into a bunch of media 777 00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.599 stuff and content creation. But how can it drive business and Grow Your Business? 778 00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:28.920 If your business owner or you know a business owner, please share the 779 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.239 link pretty close to you wherever you're watching at that. It's there. It's 780 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:36.679 on creating daily somewhere. Grab that link and share it out and join US 781 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.400 tomorrow. It's gonna be a lot of fun as we celebrate Friday. It's 782 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.400 Friday, it's Good Friday and and we're going to be talking about digital sales. 783 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:45.480 So a lot of stuff to celebrate there. All right, we'll see 784 00:53:45.519 --> 00:54:00.280 you tomorrow. Thanks so much.