Booking Guests For Your Podcast

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:05.559 Center we are can really like you're listening to creating daily, there's something wrong 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:08.599 with you. You know that because you and I are like a mullets. 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:12.160 It is the is the business. So he's the front part of the haircut 4 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:16.000 and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're hilarious. Speaks 5 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:22.120 to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. What is going on? 6 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:26.079 Everyone? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. Today's April Fourteen, 7 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:28.440 two thousand and twenty two. I don't know why I said that. There's 8 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:32.960 probably a date pretty close to wherever you're watching this and I'm super pumped about 9 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:37.759 today's show. I get my friend drew mildon on the show from drew versus 10 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:42.880 the world podcast. He's booked over a hundred guests on his show and I'm 11 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:47.200 exciting to learn how, because I'm booking guests on the daily and I'm not 12 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:50.359 doing a very good job at it because actually I think it's him the wrong 13 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:53.479 link. And so he was like he literally came in, no pre show 14 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.200 conversation. I haven't even talked to him, which is like, what's up, 15 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.520 drew, here we go. So we're going to learn some best practices 16 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.000 along the way of how not to be like me and take care of your 17 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:04.920 guests better than I have. So I'm looking forward to not only learning, 18 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:10.840 but maybe a little bit of roasting from drew as far as my process on 19 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:14.159 this side of the Mike as the host. So anyway, we're going to 20 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:18.680 get into all that fun stuff. I'm super pumped. If you're watching somewhere 21 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:22.840 around, leave me a comment. If you're watching on Youtube, leave me 22 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:25.879 comment there. Let us know where you're watching from. If you're on bullhorn, 23 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:29.560 leaves the comment. They're also on bullhorn. There are some questions there 24 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.599 as well. All so you can put a little if you have a little 25 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:34.680 question for drew or myself, you can put it in a little question section. 26 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.519 If you're on Youtube, do a queue Cole and Bam whatever. And 27 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:42.280 I am I'm jacked up on some coffee. Got Knee jumping in over here 28 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:48.000 on Youtube. Still Messing up. Yes, knee, I'm always messing up 29 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:52.319 because that's what you do and you just do stuff and you throw them out 30 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.879 against the wall. And then we got nick over here on Bull Horn. 31 00:01:55.959 --> 00:02:00.120 We got Chris. Just did a demo of bullhorn with Nick. Chris said 32 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:01.719 Awesome, Chris. I think you're going to like it. Man, super 33 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:07.079 good platform. Anyway, let's get into a couple of little segments here. 34 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:12.879 What it's toll time with creating daily all right, so today's tool time is 35 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.479 a new tool that I just discovered. Actually, I discovered it a while 36 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:23.599 ago, did not implement it, and then I just launched a new subscription 37 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:30.240 base membership for my fishing podcast and I realized really quickly at a couple pieces 38 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:31.599 of that we're going to be a headache. So I started looking for a 39 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:40.240 software that can connect two different platforms and automate some processes like some welcome emails, 40 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:46.520 some access to a different APP. So I'm actually using Zappier. Let's 41 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.960 go between, or potentially I haven't haven't turned the on switch on yet, 42 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:55.680 but potentially to go between member press and hello audio. So basically, when 43 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.919 someone signs up for my membership, they will automatically be sent an access link 44 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:06.560 to the hell of audio private podcast feed and they will also if they cancel 45 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.919 their membership, then that communication will happen and they'll be kicked out of the 46 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:14.599 hello audio membership feed. So anyway, thought maybe some other creators can find 47 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:17.960 this useful, especially if you're doing membership stuff. It is. It's pretty 48 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:23.520 cool. It's fairly simple as well and, as you know, knee has 49 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:24.960 pointed out in the chats, I probably was going to mess it up, 50 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:28.879 but I'm going to figure it out and do that. So anyway, let's 51 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:35.719 move on to Creator highlights. No cooking necessary and no assembly required. It's 52 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.800 got to be fun, all right. Today's creator highlight is brought to you 53 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.120 by one sheet pro so. One sheet dot pro slash Billy Thorpe is we 54 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.439 can go check out my one sheet, and this is basically a one sheet 55 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:52.280 on steroids. Your whole Creator profile, your whole digital creator profile, all 56 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.520 in one place. If you want to get booked on more shows, if 57 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.599 you want to, you know, pitch a brand or whatever like this, 58 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.800 the whole media kit one she all together. They have an auto affiliate program 59 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.319 over there as well. So the more you share it, the more opportunity 60 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:08.680 you have to make money, which everybody knows that I like to be connected 61 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.840 with brands who give me opportunities to make money. And then also they have 62 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.599 a ranking system in their directory. So the more that you share it in, 63 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:16.920 the more that you show up in the more that you go to one 64 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:21.120 sheet, dot prolash, Billy Thorpe, the higher eye rank in the directory 65 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:26.319 in the bigger that it grows, the the bigger that directory grows, which, 66 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:28.920 by the way, is also a really great place to find guests. 67 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.959 The more that you rank within there, you know, gives you some clout, 68 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.040 I guess. I don't know, maybe we'll see, but anyway, 69 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:40.160 so go check those guys out in my my. Oh No, I mean 70 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:44.279 to hit this again because I messed up again. The Gosh, I'm keeping 71 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.639 score. Let me see if I can quiet another highlights. All right, 72 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:48.800 so there we got. I can quiet that down. The Creator highlight goes 73 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:54.199 to my friend Sean Anthony over at schools out. Now. What podcast? 74 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:58.639 So this is a podcast for former students to this really discover their gifts. 75 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.959 So to help them discover their gift. Super Awesome Creator. I met Shawan 76 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:08.759 over on clubhouse running podcasting rooms and super great guy. Do a lot of 77 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.959 cool stuff in the creator community. So go check out his podcast. Schools 78 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.639 over. Now what? So that is the creator highlight. Now I'm going 79 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.600 to welcome my friend drew on and we got a lot to we got. 80 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.800 We got it. We get even a pre show to catch up on. 81 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:24.240 So we get a lot to catch up on and learn how he's mastered the 82 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.759 skill of booking some guests. Drew, what's up, my man? Don't 83 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.319 say anything because I got to muted, as I always have. Everybody muted. 84 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:35.399 Maybe you can mute yourself, Kenya, because I muted you. There 85 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:40.120 you are about it. I got it, Dude. I need somebody to 86 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:44.040 just give me like a red button that's like guests mute, guest on mute 87 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.720 and then just plugs in USB and no matter what platform I'm on, it 88 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:51.439 recognizes the guests on Mute and mute button. That possible? Yeah, I 89 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:55.920 think you might have a plug in at Zapp here that does that for you. 90 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.839 So I hope that is APP beer. You know right. Maybe they. 91 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.079 Dude, that would be great. I'm sure he cam or stream deck 92 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.319 or somebody has it. I just haven't figured it out so anyway. But 93 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:10.600 Dude, before we jump into all about how you book these wonderful guests on 94 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:14.800 your podcast, please take a moment and share with us about your podcast, 95 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:17.079 about yourself and really anything you want to because we need to do a pre 96 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:21.079 show to learn any of this stuff. So go for it. Okay, 97 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.759 cool, Hey, drew crue, this is drew from drew verse the world, 98 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:30.800 where each week I share stories of people who are changing the world and 99 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:35.240 through your success and failures, I allow my listener become world changes themselves. 100 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:42.360 So you tune in every Monday on anywhere you listen to podcast and you'll be 101 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:46.120 able to learn a little bit more about other people, but definitely learn about 102 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:49.519 more about yourself. And at the end I wanted to everybody to understand it's 103 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:54.279 not just drew verse the world, it's you verse the world. Oh my 104 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.399 gosh, dude. First of all, the drew crew. I'm super I'm 105 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.000 envious, man. I want to come up with a community name for creating 106 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:06.240 daily community people, but I don't know what that is. So maybe we 107 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:12.319 can brainstorm it, create our lights. I don't know. Like the most 108 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.600 creative thing I came up with is like Creator people. Like I'm like, 109 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:21.759 that's not going to work. It's pretty sounds whatever. That's sounds like Sam 110 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:26.759 paper. All right, this terrible, like dide. This way you get 111 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.879 when you do a daily show. Your brain melts every day and you're like, 112 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.519 I can't come up with anything new. This is actually really good. 113 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:33.839 For me, so so new. Let's jump into this. Man, you 114 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:39.800 have over a hundred podcast episodes and a hundred percent of those are guests for 115 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:44.560 drew versus the world. Yes, a hundred percent of them are guests. 116 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.040 So, man, why did you start an interview show? That's kind of 117 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:50.040 my first question, so that that will go into a kind of the genesis 118 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:57.199 of the podcasts overall. The reason why I started in genesis your versus world. 119 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.120 That's actually I think that might be a segment I need to create. 120 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.680 But the reason why we came, I came up with the podcast in general 121 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:11.959 was because I always had a connection with people and out in the bars, 122 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:18.959 out traveling out just doing some flanthropy work, and also in just to workspaces. 123 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.000 I'm I was always able to sit down with anybody, and I say 124 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:26.199 their mother, and to turn about anything because I had a wide range of 125 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:31.600 experiences and usually the connection with people and what'll we call small talk, how 126 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:39.399 we becomes a conversation is through shared experiences. So once, once down the 127 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:45.519 alley, I was kind of looking at friends that were creatives themselves. Somewhere 128 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:52.720 rappers, some were music artists. It was like singing somewhere graphic designers and 129 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:58.200 videographers and things like that and some of the photographers, and I didn't have 130 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.799 that I and I didn't have the you know, the ability to wrap or 131 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:03.720 saying so we sat down. It was like, man, you could do 132 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.840 a podcast because you love talking to people, and I was like yeah, 133 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.679 man, but like why would anybody want to listen to me just talk for 134 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.879 fifteen or twenty at thirty minutes? I was like, you know what, 135 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:22.679 I'm usually able to ascertain a lot information through people by just having general conversations, 136 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.879 and what I used to come out of it is learning more about not 137 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.600 just them, but learning more about myself, and I kind of attribute a 138 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.320 lot of the stuff that I teach or a lot of stuff that's learned through 139 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:37.879 diverse the world, kind of similar to Avatar. I don't know if anybody 140 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:43.240 knows Avatar, the last airbender, is that he goes to these different lands, 141 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.960 specifically the different tribes, and learns a different element and through that different 142 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:54.279 element he becomes the whole empowerment of the Avatar. So that's what I think 143 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.039 through verse the world is about. Is About having these guests on and, 144 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.799 just like the Avatar, taking tidbits of their information and apply it to yourself 145 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.039 to become better version of yourselves. So that's the reason why I kind of 146 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:09.480 have an interview based podcast, because I think I could give more instead of 147 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:16.399 just chatting about what I've learned from somebody, but have that person up center 148 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.120 and actually sharing information about their lives. All right, man, I can 149 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.120 do it that. I like that. You know, the one thing that 150 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.840 I have always, and I'm not, been a podcaster who brings on guests. 151 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.840 Now my fishing show we do. That's where all the content comes from. 152 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.919 That's where all the you know, for us, the benefit really is 153 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.919 like that's the content, like that's the gold that they're the professionals were just 154 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.279 the guide to this kind of moving through the trail, if you will. 155 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.480 So for human it sounds like that. You know, some of the benefits 156 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.720 for you is like one you're personally learning to your letting. You know, 157 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:54.960 you're giving other people an opportunity to learn from your guests as well. Now, 158 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:00.320 from a podcast grows standpoint, and you've seen that to be valuable from 159 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:05.360 that point of like your guests really getting behind the episodes and helping promote yeah, 160 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:11.120 it's I find it's exponential growth every time I release episode just because of 161 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:16.840 a fact that it's basically a brag sheet for that person. It's like, 162 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:20.799 Hey, if if I want to, as a letsay author, I went 163 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.879 to say, Hey, read my book, but really you can say now 164 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.960 I hey, I have a podcast out there that really entails not just my 165 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.480 life but the reason behind me actually creating this book and also what you would 166 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.240 get from this book. And I can shoot this out with the masses. 167 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:43.240 Why not share this with my people? So it's sometimes, as we probably 168 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.639 all know, hard for you to get a guest to share the episode, 169 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:54.519 but usually when it's a good content and they are behind it and you see 170 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.200 that they're kind of clicking with the episode, they usually share it. And 171 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.440 what I do, and I'll get to those. You know how the aftermath 172 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:07.080 after actually have the podcast, I mean sorry, as actually after I record 173 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:15.200 the podcast, is I send a bunch of different like clips and social media 174 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.279 post and tags that they can and little write ups that they can add to 175 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:22.159 their websites and stuff like that, which helps them get a little bit more 176 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.759 into Oh, I don't have to do all this work myself. So now 177 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.320 I have these resources are called assets, that can just drag and drop into 178 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.799 these into my kind of, I would say, my machine of marketing. 179 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.000 Yeah, so I just call I call it a marketing tool for them. 180 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:43.519 So look at usually helps them a lot. So okay, so it sounds 181 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.399 like it helps you in a couple different ways, and specially growth if you 182 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.480 provide the right thing. So let's go from the process. Man. I 183 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:54.080 would love to hear your process, because my cohost actually manages all of our 184 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.639 guests and take now we've done over a hundred and something episodes as well, 185 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.720 but he's like managing that whole process. I'm not doing any of that. 186 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.120 Now, on creating daily I'm like, Dude, I'm trying to book for 187 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.440 at least, you know, probably three guests, three, two, maybe 188 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.840 four guests per week, and it's a little sloppy and I'm you know, 189 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:18.000 you're welcome to use my horrible process, as you know, as a tool 190 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.519 to teach. But let's started the very beginning, man, like so you've 191 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:22.480 told us why, you know where you should, you know why I should 192 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.919 have a guest on, but why? Where do you find these people? 193 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.559 You just find them anywhere, friends, family, recommend ays, like where 194 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.240 are you trying to find a guess because you're booking a lot. Your book 195 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.919 in one a week, right. Yeah, so I'm not going to hold 196 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:41.320 you. First and foremost, your background looks amazing and my background looks like 197 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.159 I'm in a penitentiary. I'm just going to I just want to put that 198 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.000 out there. That's I need to learn. I need to learn from that. 199 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:50.519 So if you have a created daily about that, I need to learn 200 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.960 how to light up my background. I'll tell you. Actually, I'll tell 201 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.440 you a real quick how to do it. This is a concrete wall that's 202 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:00.039 gray. Just go a little floodlight from Amazon, putting the floor and turn 203 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.879 it on and get another one to put on it like a shelf for something, 204 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.240 and put some crap back there. It's really okay, really yeah, 205 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.480 and it actually me, who, I'm sure he'll comment here in a second, 206 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.159 hates my backdrop. Actually says it all the time. It's terrible. 207 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.519 So anyway, he keeps me, keeps me humble. So anyway, back 208 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.759 back to how do you find these guests on your show? So I honestly 209 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:26.960 use instagram. That's been my place of choice. Just to cite there and 210 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:31.919 the reason why I use instagram or facebook and things like that is because when 211 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:37.159 I'm thinking about who I want to have on my episode or who I went 212 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.679 as a guest, I need to be generally interested in my person and usually 213 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.519 through facebook, instagram, social media, you can kind of see the highlights 214 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.200 of people and then you could dive. You don't know how much research you 215 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.559 can do about a person through just going through their social media and googling them, 216 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.639 going through her linkedin and you're like, Oh, I know you have 217 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.200 three kids, I know all the kids name, I know how tall they 218 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:05.759 are, I know you know you went to Zimbabwe in April two thousand and 219 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:09.320 twenty three and you had a horrible time. You was in this hotel like 220 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.320 this. So much that you can decipher from instagram. But also it's a 221 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:18.559 good medium because the DM's the sliding the DM. You just don't have to 222 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.120 do it when you know you trying to hollow. You can do it when 223 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:26.480 you're trying to get a guess too, because you can connect that general connection 224 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.559 with a photo. So, for instance, if you're like, you know, 225 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.879 hey, I really like that photo that you have of your kitchen set 226 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:39.000 and I was thinking about getting kitchen set. But also, while I'm here, 227 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:41.480 you look like an enter. It would be great to have your podcast 228 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.919 and I call it I say Brag about the person first, then hit him 229 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:52.720 with the axe about the podcast. So show a sign of general interest, 230 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:56.840 like Hey, I know that. You know I really enjoy you. Know 231 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:03.480 you're traveling or you're creating daily podcast and I really enjoyed what you've been showing 232 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.639 on a daily basis. I can't believe you've been doing it. I would 233 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:10.120 love to have you as a guest on the podcast and boom you can. 234 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:15.159 That's my general like first DM and then moving forward. You kind of got 235 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.519 the next steps of like reaching out as well. Okay, so you know, 236 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.039 first of all, you said that you can find out all this information. 237 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:25.240 I think it's pretty creepy. My wife and I talked about it all 238 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.840 the time, where we're like man, I can literally could spend a few 239 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:33.000 hours and learn about someone whole live and so I thought you're going in a 240 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:34.039 different direction there. For a second I thought you're gonna be like Hey, 241 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.440 look, man, I know how many kids you have, I know what 242 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.960 their room looks like, I know what your car you driving, know where 243 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:42.799 you live, so you better come on my podcast, like I thought. 244 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:47.279 That is where you're going like your daughter is taken, good luck. Yeah, 245 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.039 I'm going to steal your kid and your wife until you come on my 246 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.159 show. Hey, you got to do what you got to do sometimes, 247 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:59.480 right, but but I love it that you are that intentional about booking guests 248 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.799 and so far I have been as well. You know, luckily, I've 249 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:07.599 been in this group of a really amazing creators and content creator, so it's 250 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.200 not really that difficult for me to reach out and say, Hey, drew, 251 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:11.880 I you know, come on the show. I you got a lot 252 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.160 of value. I know what that is. I've been friends with you and 253 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.720 following you for a while. But I love that, if it is somebody 254 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.880 I want to connect with that might be just a little bit out of reach, 255 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:23.680 that you're saying, Hey, go engage with their content, go and 256 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.319 comment on stuff, but then shoot them at DM and you know, I 257 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.160 think that's good. I think that's a great strategy, man, because I 258 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.839 can't tell you how many emails I get, and I'm sure you're the same. 259 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.839 Oh, Hey, my client, Larry, is a allstar sales guy 260 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.160 and want to be on your podcast. I'm like, that's great, but 261 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.200 I don't have a podcast about sales. So I don't. It's why are 262 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.559 you emailing me? Stop doing that. Right. Here's here's the thing, 263 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:51.599 and you probably learned this through being in sales. You never let a lead 264 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.119 go by, right. So, yeah, what I would do in that 265 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:59.319 situation, even though he's not, you know, quote unquote, Larry's not 266 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:02.839 a good line, a good line for my podcast. I would be like 267 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.400 hey, but I do have a podcast friend that I would recommend you too, 268 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.640 and then I reach out to that podcast friend and say, Hey, 269 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.759 Larry is into business, but my pockets not really into business, can't would 270 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.079 you like to have my podcast? And then I create that connection. So 271 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:22.079 now when Larry has is on that podcast, he's like, Oh yeah, 272 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.759 drew is about let's see some wild topic and podcasting. Fishing, right, 273 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.039 let's say fishing, and his pockets is about fishing. So now he's going 274 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:37.119 to send his fishing friends to my way. So that's just never lose that 275 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:44.440 networking connection. But I've had a trillions of again, DM's emails, facebook 276 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:48.359 messages, carrier pigeons and text messages. Yeah, man, that's a great 277 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.279 strategy to draw. I love that man. Like don't, because some oftentimes 278 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.599 I get a little frustrated to might even send a Zinger back, like dude, 279 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.319 like do a better job, have a great day, don't ever reach 280 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.559 out again. But the booking for podcast or so maybe I should chill out 281 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:07.000 a little bit. I probably missed the opportunity me. It's your hat, 282 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.960 forward or backwards. Me Do this because we word is evil billy and backwards 283 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:14.119 is nice billy. So I just want to make you more yeah, so 284 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:18.000 backwards had is billies having a rough hair day or needs a haircut or the 285 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.960 hair sprays out or you know whatever, like I have the world's worst hair, 286 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:26.799 but anyhow, so we can move on a little bit from my hair 287 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:30.960 and talk more about yes, so when you're doing when you're like, I'm 288 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.680 going to call it prospecting. will use them sales terms. You're like, 289 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.160 when you're prospecting potential guests, how are you keeping these things organized? You 290 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.839 like putting, putting potentials in a spreadsheet. Like how are you keeping up 291 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:48.319 with the with the guest pitches? So again, I'm not going to hold 292 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:55.039 you or I'm not going to fake the funk. I I'm not really organized 293 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:59.839 in that strategy, but I've become I'm becoming more organized. So I do 294 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:03.319 have a spreadsheet that has all my guests that I have on and that I 295 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:08.079 plan on having on. I don't update as much as I should, but 296 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:14.799 what I like to do is have basically three columns at the moment, one 297 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:18.680 column with the guest name, one column with the recording date and one column 298 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:23.680 with the potential air date, and that allows me to be a little bit 299 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:29.599 more organized for Kating, creating a content for that episode, like Social Media 300 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:36.599 Post and emails, and making sure that the guests has been sent out the 301 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:41.160 email for them to actually be a part of the podcast and a link to 302 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:47.200 going to the the virtual studio that I'm using at the current time. So 303 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:49.960 that's kind of my strategy at the moment. But I am moving to things 304 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:57.359 like Trello, I think was another one, basically some kind of compo combine 305 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:03.160 board set up where then I can manage that through a system like maybe Zappier 306 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:15.359 and conjunction with my counter league calendar that I use currently for Brainin part that 307 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:22.279 use currently for getting my guests to book time on my calendar. Okay, 308 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.960 yeah, man, I just started doing that with with Trello, because I 309 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.160 used Trollo for like like sponsorship out reaching, all that kind of stuff. 310 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:32.720 I'm like, man, I should do this because there's somebody you know. 311 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:36.400 I was in a room yesterday and a linkedin audio room. Super Great Guy 312 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:37.880 was on the stage talking. I'm like God, he'd be perfect for the 313 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.640 podcast. And then I'm over here writing notes. I'm like, I'm going 314 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:44.519 to lose that. Why am I doing that? So that's a good tip. 315 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:47.559 Man, like get a Trelloh or, you know, spreadsheet or just 316 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.279 a Google doc or whatever. So once you do that, man, what 317 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:56.039 is you so you got that? You got that kind of organized. Do 318 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.240 you do like a precall screening? Like how are you qualifying? Because maybe 319 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.480 you like them on their highlight real on instagram or linked in or facebook, 320 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.720 but how do you dig a level deeper? Because I'm not really doing that 321 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.079 right now. I'm just like booking people because I know them. I feel 322 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:15.000 like I know them pretty good. But for strangers, I guess. What's 323 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.680 your qualification process? It's funny that you say that, because me you met 324 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.160 a cliphouse. You don't know me from nobody, so you do kind of 325 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.880 know my holly. I like real as well. But all in all, 326 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:33.279 honestly, I don't have precalls. I, Um, I'm a person of 327 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:38.480 if you can fill out my calendarly, then I think that you're at least 328 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.440 good enough to be on a podcast. Okay, so two things. I 329 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:45.799 always ask them to fill out the countardly and I always asks him to fill 330 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:51.880 out a form. I use Google forms and has old information. I need 331 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:56.759 to create show notes also to create these social media templates and things like that. 332 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.480 Okay, and if you're if you're good enough to fill out that, 333 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:06.599 I think that you're least reasonable person to be on a pocast. And I've 334 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.559 always said I can talk to a wall. So I don't care if you're 335 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:18.039 if you're you know, I had a podcast about about flat earth and the 336 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:26.880 gentleman was a flat earth and he is his guess, his his ideas were 337 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.720 kind of not are not commonplace in the world. Yeah, so instead of 338 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.440 me like berating him and being like yeah, wrong, wrong, for my 339 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:41.400 mind point is like hey, how can I understand what he understands and why 340 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:45.480 he understands it? So if you just take a different spin on how you 341 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:51.000 gathering this information, you'll never have a bad guess, you'll just have bad 342 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:53.640 episodes, if that makes sense. Let makes sense. Yeah, I get 343 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.160 it, but that flat earth episode, by the way, it was great. 344 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.680 So people should definitely look that up and check it out. A lot 345 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.640 of fun. All right, so you're so you're kind of keeping organized your 346 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.200 like Trello or spreadsheet or whatnot. You're reaching out to people, you're sending 347 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.640 them and this is what I think it's confusing because I have a calendarly as 348 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.960 well. I only have a few questions on it. But what is your 349 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.599 calendarly? What does that until? What do you what are you asking of 350 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:19.519 them to fill out and give to you? So this is why I say 351 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:22.720 that, if you're going to so, I have a two top two step 352 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:27.359 process. My coundarly is pretty simple, direct and free, and then I 353 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:34.279 go to forms, where I then send a google form to the guests, 354 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:40.119 and Google form, since I use a lot of google products, like Google 355 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.400 driving, all that stuff. It sends like, for instance, I get 356 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:47.559 there their head shot or something like that in Google forms and said it saves 357 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.440 it into a folder where then I could just pull it from my phone into 358 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:56.640 Canava. So my first line of defense is, can you fell the candidly? 359 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.799 My second line defenses can you fill out the form my third line defenses. 360 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:06.359 Can you show up on time and when I send you to correct link, 361 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.599 because my leg doesn't change, it's just you need to be there on 362 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:15.079 time. So that's kind of my process moving forward after that. Okay, 363 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.039 got it, because, yeah, that's where I'm at right now. I'm 364 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.160 trying to figure out like how do I use somebody said, because I put 365 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:23.720 stuff out there and say hey, anybody want to be on the show? 366 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:27.640 Blah, Blah Blah, and then I give people just you know, influx 367 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.400 with people like I want to be on the show'm be on the show, 368 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.920 but then I don't really have like a good application process. And then I 369 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.599 send them the calendarly and then they get on my calendar and now I feel 370 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.680 obligated because I'm like, even if they even if I read their stuff, 371 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.400 I'm like, yeah, I'm not really that interested. Then you know that 372 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.519 I mean. But I guess I should do I mean to do a little 373 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:51.519 research before I just don't invite anyone. So send them out there, but 374 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:56.440 I'm kind of looking for something. Maybe we're the form is first, then 375 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:00.119 I send the calendarly once it's approved. So maybe like an application and then 376 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.839 so you can do that you could do what I do and reverse yeah, 377 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:06.079 and reverse you like yeah, here's, here's the form is. Fill out 378 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:10.359 the form. Okay, now you're in a queue. Got and that person 379 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:15.079 is in a queue and you can review them weekly or every other day or 380 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.839 something like that and just say, okay, I think you're a good fit, 381 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.000 thank you for filling out the form. Boom. Or even when you 382 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:23.359 fell out form, when you fill out form and Google forms, you can 383 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.200 have like a little pop up screen that says, thank you for filling a 384 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.519 form. Please wait for later, for on future response and calendar invites or 385 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.720 whatever. So give them hope at lace give them some hope before you crash 386 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:37.119 them. All right, man. So, so we kind of learn about 387 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.880 tools and soft now, when it comes to booking guests or looking for guests, 388 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.599 are you like putting this on your calendar to batch do this, or 389 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.000 you just doing it at inspiration? You see something on Instagram, you reach 390 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:56.039 out, like, how's your your outreach process? It's basically as like you 391 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.839 everybody probably just heard, I'm very like all over the place. So it's 392 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.680 kind of like that's fair. That's when the when I see somebody who I'm 393 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.640 again generally interested I used to just reach out, but what I try to 394 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:14.359 do is at least once a week. It might be on Monday, might 395 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.720 be on Tuesday, might be on Friday, whenever, reach out to at 396 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:22.920 least one person that I find interesting. Okay, and usually, like Frances, 397 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:27.799 my my calendar right now is booked until about, I think, mid 398 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:33.880 May or beginning June. So to have a batch of people that I can 399 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.880 always, you know, have on a podcast. Plus I have a batch 400 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.880 of friends that I know that if if I need to, they could come 401 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:47.039 back on or that's another that's a another thing I will talk about later, 402 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:52.480 of how to interact with your guests after the episodes to maybe having part two 403 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:57.920 and then you have extra content and and it's a creative way how to reuse 404 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.759 an episode and things like that. But that's kind of my process. Is 405 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.839 like at least once a week, I reach out to at least one person 406 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.039 and just say hey, you know, I again just put that feeler out 407 00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.160 there. Hey, I like your content, I like what you've been doing. 408 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.279 Would you like to be a guest on podcast? Another place that's good 409 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.440 for that, not just instagram, is clubhouse. Now clubhouse, I like 410 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.559 to just go around to some crazy rooms sometimes, but I like to go 411 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:29.920 around to the rooms and if something hits like somebody's like conversation hits me on 412 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.920 like hey, you'd be a great on pot on the on the podcast coming 413 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.680 up is in a couple weeks here I'm going to have somebody on by the 414 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:42.680 name of espree on and it was the face of clubhouse right. Yeah, 415 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:48.240 and and she, me and her connected on a different types of different type 416 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.920 or post syndrome level and she was such a great resource for me. So 417 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.400 I was like, I have to have you on. And what I have 418 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.839 ever known about a spree if I was in a clubhouse? No, but 419 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.200 that I reach out to her. Yes, and she gave me a lot 420 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.880 of inspiration. And and again I did the Brag and then I did that, 421 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.640 hey, would you like to be my pocket? She said, I 422 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.880 would love to. So just keep this, make sure you're consistent, make 423 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:18.319 sure don't over ride, don't over over exert yourself. They'll make it. 424 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.519 Oh, I need to reach out to seventeen people to this week. Reach 425 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.119 out to one person. Make sure you unless you're a billy and want to 426 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.799 do something daily, but just reach out to he'll do one person you start 427 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.319 one person and then you can move on forward to as many as you would 428 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.799 like. Just make sure that your booked. I would say make sure your 429 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.680 book, your calendar, is booked up for at least a month to have 430 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.200 some padding. Okay, now are you badge recording news as well? Are 431 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.279 you trying to record? Yeah, multiple week or multiple day. I have 432 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:52.279 right now about seven in the queue. Let's go. So it's good. 433 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.799 I just I try to make sure that if I want to take a long 434 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:59.359 break or I want to, you know, just celebrate our birthday for a 435 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.799 week or something like that and I don't want to release episode, I could 436 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:07.519 just hit push published and all that that episodes out. Yeah, man, 437 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:08.839 that's it. That's that's the way to do it. I think if he 438 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.559 can, you know, like I mean obviously creating daily I can't. But 439 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.119 for my fishing show do we get eight or ten in the bank like Rad 440 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.160 to rock and roll. So we're pretty excited about that. So, men, 441 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.200 are you having people when you're in this booking process and they're doing your 442 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.119 Calendari and they're doing your Google form? Is there like a release waiver, 443 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.920 like a press release waiver or something of that nature? Like I've never been 444 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.119 good at making sure this is a part of the package. Yeah, me 445 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.799 too, and I know I should be because there's some crazy stuff that sometimes 446 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.880 said and I am the type of podcast I do not like to take out 447 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.400 anything inside. I'm taking out the episode or I'm taking I'm not taking out 448 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.759 anything, and I'm pretty like the ums the eyes you probably heard during this 449 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:59.480 this episode happens during the root, like a drew verse of World Episode. 450 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.279 I've become a lot better with it, but it happens in conversation. But 451 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.720 I think that the whole few waivers and stuff like that, once I become, 452 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.759 you know, big wig like billy over here, I should definitely implement 453 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:17.720 it just in case. And I don't you know the only reason that now 454 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:19.640 not on this show, but I was getting ready to start interviewing people and 455 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.519 creating for money, but then I decide to do creating daily and I probably 456 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.680 need to implement this feature and I think I don't want to let the cat 457 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.599 out of the bag, but I think one sheet pros working on a guess 458 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.839 intake form as well. Yeah, so, so hopefully that's if you haven't 459 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.920 go to one she PROCOM or go to one sheet dot pros, last billy 460 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.480 good, Billy Thorpe, and then and then sign up for one sheet. 461 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:42.759 That way, if you buy it, I get a commission. But anyhow, 462 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.880 I think they're going to do something like that. That may include like 463 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.880 a waiver or something of that nature. Say Hey, once you, once 464 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.119 you sign up, like. But that's the thing that I haven't really had 465 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.680 anybody come back to me and say, Hey, take down that episode. 466 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:02.000 I don't want to have you had anything like that before. Um, there's 467 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:07.640 been some episodes I want to take down, but there isn't hasn't been anybody 468 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.240 who I really would say, Oh, they came back and said, Oh, 469 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.559 I shouldn't have said that or anything like that. I haven't had a 470 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:21.519 conversation and I think that's important as a interview were to really this is not 471 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.680 I got you a moment and if the person has that kind of like, 472 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:31.279 for instance, I would say I my episode with Carol Baskins Baskin released recently. 473 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.000 I reach it to the main feed. I could ask the question everybody 474 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.119 wanted ever me to acts but I'm like no, we're having a good time. 475 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:44.079 I really want to understand her life. I want to stand her background 476 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:50.400 and once you established that as an interview where people come a little bit more, 477 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.400 have the billy and more to tell you more and feel more comfortable about 478 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.200 what they're telling you, because when it comes from my heart, they just 479 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.079 like hey, listen, it is what it is. Yeah, so I 480 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.359 mean that's good, man. That's a good and maybe you speaking of kind 481 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.880 of following up and doing another show. Maybe you and I could jump on 482 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:12.440 another episode sometime and talk about the interviewing process, because once again, it's 483 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.160 something I'm trying to get better at. I mean, you would think doing 484 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.640 it every day I would get better way faster, but I still struggle at 485 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.160 times. So that's that's a good point, man. Like do a good 486 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.200 job for other people that you're talking to and in kind of treat them as 487 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.200 you want to be treated, and then you know, maybe bigger names will 488 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.720 come on and be more vulnerable with you're not bigger names, but more people 489 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.279 and the people you want will come on and be more vulnerable with you. 490 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.000 I think that's a good too. That's a good takeaway from this episode for 491 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:43.160 sure. So you've talked about you have some repeat guests on. Now what 492 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:47.319 if an interview just goes south like what do you what do you do with 493 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:52.359 that guess? How do you handle that guess that way? So I had 494 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:58.920 when episode that went south. Well, two instances when episode went southist because 495 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.200 I had the person on and they're very shut mouth, I like to call 496 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.720 it. They didn't, they do want to say anything. They want to 497 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.519 talk about anything. They I asked them, I say, do you know 498 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:14.199 you're being recorded? Are you know you're on a podcast? And they really 499 00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:19.280 didn't have any intent on actually having a conversation that day. For some reason 500 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.159 they were very gungho about being in a podcast, but that day didn't really 501 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.400 have a conversation. So at that time I just kind of reached out to 502 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:32.719 him. I said, Hey, I cannot who least episode because it has 503 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.760 no value to anybody that's going to be listened to it. It has no 504 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.320 like, puny and points, it has no nothing that you're giving to them 505 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.880 and it's nothing. I'm taken away from it, and that's an important thing 506 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.199 too, as I said in beginning, is I'm not just I'm taking away 507 00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.079 from the listeners, take away from the guests, but I'm also taking away 508 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:52.039 from the guests. And if I can't get no value out, what you're 509 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.360 saying. I know the listeners not going to get any value that which is 510 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.519 saying. So I kind of just reached out to him was like hey, 511 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.480 this I can't release episode. We can record another episode if you would like, 512 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.920 but this is not going out this week. And I've never got a 513 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.639 response back from that person, but that is what it is. And then 514 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:13.599 the second one was the episode had horrible, horrible sound, and I did 515 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.519 not want to release this episode. Had A horrible sound, like horrible quality, 516 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.639 and I knew I was never going to get this guest again because he 517 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:25.320 gave me hit bit of his time and he he's really in famous cook and 518 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:30.679 he has his whole like media company behind him, everything like that. And 519 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.039 I said, you know what, I'm just going to release this episode because 520 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.079 that episode had all the nuggets, like all the chunks another and I was 521 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.880 like there's it's hard to create, recreate because he was in a moment where 522 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.679 of vulnerability that I don't think he would get to again. So I just 523 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.639 released the episode and I said, Hey, man, the episode is going 524 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:55.000 to have horrible audio, but every point that you had sounds great. I 525 00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.960 leveled it. Make sure that at least two points that you had there came 526 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:04.239 out and was the most important part of our conversation. So man, yeah, 527 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.960 yeah, sometimes you get to do that. I've been there before too. 528 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.559 I'm a man. This audio isn't great, but did the content was 529 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.599 so fire like I'm just going to release it. If people complain, like 530 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.119 maybe they'll see through it because it's so good. Man. So you've mentioned 531 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.119 Carol basking, you mentioned this famous chief and I know people always ask this 532 00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.639 question when I'm in clubhouse rooms about booking guests. How do you go about 533 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:31.280 getting bigger name people on your show? I don't this is going to sound 534 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:37.880 very brazen and very like you lying, but I don't think. I try 535 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:44.480 to keep very bay the same level, and that's what I think helps, 536 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.320 because when I DM somebody, I'm like, yeah, you're going to reach 537 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.079 out or you're not going to. You're going to say no. You gotta 538 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.039 say yes. Yeah, so I don't care who you are. Maybe have 539 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.840 to go through different channels to actually get you on or potentially get you on, 540 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.320 but what I'm going to do is have the same respect for you as 541 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.199 I would have somebody who wrokes down the street or at a piece of shop, 542 00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.719 because then when you level set that and have a good baseline, at 543 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.760 the end of the day, it doesn't care. I don't care if you're 544 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.519 making a hundred million dollars or seven hundred and fifty at the McDonald's, you're 545 00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:21.280 going to get some value from that person. Yeah, so that's that's the 546 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.000 I think a good way to have that a different type of mindset when you 547 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:29.559 reaching out to these quote unquote bigger people is to just have the mindset that 548 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:34.519 they're this. There's somebody who literally was born a same same way you was 549 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.880 born. They might have different circumstances, but they either they came out as 550 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.119 something. Yeah, right, I'm not going to see like I just yeah, 551 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.920 it's and then when you have that type of level again, I reach 552 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.719 out to DM's but, most importantly, a lot of people that are have 553 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.119 the you know, higher counts of followers. Usually dms are flooded, so 554 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:59.800 you might not get heard. So I would either a reach out, try 555 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:05.840 to look up their publicists or be they usually might have a contact on their 556 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.760 email. So I mean on their instagram, you click that contact and send 557 00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:15.320 that information that contact, or you can just legitimately go on facebook, finds 558 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:22.239 or Google find their their email. You can literally Google like their e mail 559 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:28.119 and just follow it like that, or or do a good old try their 560 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.440 first name, dot their last name at gmailcom. That's a good one. 561 00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.360 So reaching out, to reach out to bigger name guesses similar to reaching out 562 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.880 the sponsors. It's a very, very similar game, like you're trying to 563 00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:44.000 get somebody to trying to, quote unquote, sell someone something. I couldn't 564 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.840 the idea of being on your show or what not. So yeah, man, 565 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:51.239 that's good. I like that, that approach of and it's in like 566 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.599 you, Cem entry, people like people like I treat big brands like big 567 00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.920 brands. Yeah, sure, they're big brands, but they got people just 568 00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.320 like me working there and making the visions, and so the more human I 569 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.800 treat them, the more human they'll be in and be on the show or, 570 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.559 you know, do a deal with me or whatever. So I love 571 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.400 that Mans. So what's let's talk about your kind of your follow up approach. 572 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:14.719 So you got the guests on, you've told us how to do that, 573 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.960 you've done the interview, you've published it. You told us in the 574 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.719 beginning you give them some creative assets to help market the show. Now that 575 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.199 all the dust is settled, what are you doing to continue those relationships so 576 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.280 you can have them back on later or do another project with them? So 577 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:37.039 what I like to do definitely now is reach out to them during the episode, 578 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.360 or maybe after episode has dropped, and just ask them if they want 579 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.960 to do ig live. So I've been doing that for a while and what 580 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.119 that's been helping with is usually when you go live it pops up to your 581 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.000 audience, but doing igilive with somebody else, with that person, it pops 582 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.239 up to their audience. So now they get to know who you are, 583 00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.079 they get to understand, oh, she was on a she or he was 584 00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:06.760 on episode of Jean Verse The World. Maybe I should go and look at 585 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.360 that. So that's a mechanism that I would so I call it that's kind 586 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:14.239 of like the recap episodes. So you can do it. I on a 587 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.880 feet, you can do it on facebook live, you can do it on 588 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:22.519 here, you can do it on anywhere you want, but a recap to 589 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.840 engage their audience with your audience. But IG is how I do it. 590 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:32.360 Secondly, reaching out is another thing that people kind of take for granted, 591 00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.800 just the fact of just like saying hey, how are you doing? As 592 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.760 everything all right? How can the one thing I like to say is, 593 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.840 Hey, I hope you're doing well. How can I help you? Okay, 594 00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:49.519 and that in a lot of people they're like, they're probably say nothing, 595 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.880 I'm doing fine and no, I don't really need no help or anything 596 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.039 at that time. But some people be like, oh, man, you 597 00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.920 know, I have this new project that I'm going out would love to, 598 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:05.239 you know, work with you on on actually being on the podcast, or 599 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.840 would you like to market this for me or help me out with stuff like 600 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.719 that, and that gives you an interaction with somebody that you had in a 601 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:15.239 podcast now from a creative standpoint as well. So reaching out, I usually 602 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:21.519 try to do it from a month, so it's Muff, five, Munth 603 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:27.039 and year, and then yearly reach out just kind of like yearly, just 604 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.760 be like hey, how hope was hope as well? How's the kids? 605 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.400 And I'll just tell you a quick story about how that was super helpful. 606 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:39.800 I had a young lady on the podcast and she was a can't just survivor 607 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:46.519 and she talked about her her experience of cancer and surviving and also with her 608 00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:55.559 family and creating different festivals, music festivals in our hometown of Ireland and I 609 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.639 was like hey, you wanted to recap episode on its instagram and she's like 610 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.239 yeah, you know, right now I'm in Mexico and I'm okay, yeah, 611 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.559 we could do it whenever you want. So we figured that out forget 612 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.800 to time out and we she got on the recap and she was like hey, 613 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.360 drew, it has been a long time. Yeah, I've had covid 614 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.800 and cancer and the same week since I like yeah, that's the same thing. 615 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:24.320 I said the same eye movements as I have covid and cancer the last 616 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:30.000 week of December, and she talked about her experiences that in that she talked 617 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.760 about how she, you know, how she lit was listening to the episode 618 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.119 and she was really like intrigued about how she was back then before she actually 619 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:45.280 had those diagnosis, and she talked about her how she's getting help, how 620 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:46.800 she went to Du buy for a little bit, how she then she went 621 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:52.719 to Mexico. So those recap episodes also allow you to generally connect back with 622 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.840 a person, not just a guess, with a person, and that was, 623 00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:00.400 I would say, the most, excuse me, the best experience I 624 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.079 had with one of those recaps, because I'm like wow, you're overcoming so 625 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:12.360 much that you've already overcome and it just allowed my guests to explain themselves and 626 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.559 allowed by listenors direct with that story as well. Wow, man, that's 627 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.639 but yeah, that's powerful, man, and I think that's some power of 628 00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.960 podcast, seeing the power of, you know, bringing on guests, and 629 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.039 that was, you know, like one I, you know, had this 630 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.920 fishing show and yeah, the guests is bringing the values, bringing the content, 631 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.559 but it's this networking tool as well. It's like I've met so many 632 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.679 awesome people through that show and then I've met so many awesome people through like 633 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.199 social audio and clubhouse and then creating daily. It was like man, I 634 00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.039 want to I want to bring people and have these one on one conversations, 635 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.559 because sometimes clubhouse can be a crowd and you're like trying to you know, 636 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.599 do like crowd control, you know, while you're trying to have these meaningful 637 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.800 conversations, and so I love that point of like, you know, you 638 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.280 can bring people on, people you want to network with, people you want 639 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.639 to get to know and really use it as that introductory man. So that's 640 00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:06.840 that's pretty kill or so drew is there anything did I just looked at the 641 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.000 time I'm like, holy smokes man, we were just having a good time 642 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.039 and this one get. When you get to podcasters together, we just talk 643 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.440 all day about the stuff. But is there any other like strategies or tips 644 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.280 or anything that I didn't really set you up to say that you like to 645 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:30.199 share? MMM, I think I've touched it, touched on a little bit. 646 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:36.599 But persistence is key. And again, billy, you're from a sales 647 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.800 background, so you know that every no just leads you to when yes, 648 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:47.039 and that's not and I think you said that in a and a clubhouse room 649 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:52.400 about brand deals and sponsorships. But that's also in line with getting guests as 650 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.960 well. Yeah, so don't don't put your head down when somebody says no, 651 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.159 I can't do that or or no, you can't, I can't do 652 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:06.519 that this time. Just keep follow up. So after that first know, 653 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.760 follow up in a month and I follow up in two months, follow up 654 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:13.480 in three months, and until that person is basically annoyed of you and it's 655 00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.880 like it also gives a little, you know, a little pattern their back 656 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.159 like Oh, this person really wants me on the podcast or really wants me 657 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.760 as a guest and then you never know. They're like, you know what, 658 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:28.159 it's kind of like Steve Arkle when he's going out after Laura's like, 659 00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.119 I'm wearing you down, girl, I'm wearing you down. It's kind of 660 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.440 have to wear them down sometimes to have them on the on the podcast. 661 00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:40.719 But I would say keep on pursuing that person that you really want, if 662 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:45.159 you have a genuine love for that person, and really don't look at the 663 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.800 numbers of people. So instagram is a game of numbers. So you might 664 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.480 see somebody with two million followers and you like, I have no one podcast. 665 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:59.079 You like that's the person's garbage. The person's already sold to like a 666 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.199 Pepsi or Colda Cola and they can't see. But some so, so many 667 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.719 things. But if you get that person, for example, the person I 668 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.039 talked to that it's a cancer survivor and lives in Scotland, had doesn't have 669 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.760 that many followers at all. She had the most compet one of the most 670 00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.719 compelling stories I've ever heard of my life of fighting through so those are two 671 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.559 tips. I say. Don't, don't, don't look at the numbers and 672 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.280 be persistent. If you really generally want somebody as a guest. Yeah, 673 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.360 man, I love it, dude, and I think you can. You 674 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.440 know, I think another really cool thing about podcasting is, and I've you 675 00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.199 know, I kind of realized this as I was I had a podcast studio 676 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.840 and there was a guy in there, and it's still still a friend. 677 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.320 I still, you know, host his podcast, but he has a surfing 678 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:49.800 podcast and he was calling up this old friend that he hadn't talked to him 679 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.000 like years to talk about surfing and I'm just producing, I'm not on the 680 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.199 show, I'm not having the conversation, I'm just listening and watching and pushing 681 00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.639 buttons and all of a sudden, man, I like clicked and that moment 682 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.000 I'm like, Dude, I'm creating a time capsule. Like these guys are 683 00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.079 catching up after ten years. They're talking about their childhood, they're talking about 684 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.079 all this stuff, and I'm like, I'm not just creating content, I'm 685 00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.840 not just trying to, you know, make a buck, but I'm over 686 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.079 here creating a little time capsules are going to live on forever and ever and 687 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:20.880 people can, you know, put these files on hard drives and our kids 688 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.000 and children's children can go back and watch the stuff that we created in you 689 00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.760 know, learn from it, grow from it, or just go oh, 690 00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.079 look old pops, he's just big KNUCKLEHEAD, you know whatever like. So, 691 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:35.320 yeah, man, I think it's really cool. You know what you're 692 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.760 doing, drew, and having people on your show and creating those moments and 693 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.280 those memories, not only for yourself and your family but for other people in 694 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.440 their families. I think that's pretty dope. And Yeah, man, I 695 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:47.960 really appreciate you coming on the show and I'm gonna I'm going to let you 696 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.440 promote some stuff and tell people where they can find you. But while I'm 697 00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.559 doing that, if anybody has any questions, I feel free to drop it 698 00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.960 in the chat for drew. And we do like a little brief Qa session 699 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:02.320 here and if you're on bullhorn, I got this little fancy bullhorn scene I 700 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.840 think will work. Oh yeah, so there you go. So, Chris 701 00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:09.440 Vakil vaglios in the in the chat there, but a little questions and chat 702 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.039 section. So feel free to do that. But drew, where can people 703 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.800 connect with you? I know you're a man of many talents and ens and 704 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.920 you're doing a lot of cool stuff and different co hosting on different podcasts and 705 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.559 all kind of stuff we hadn't even talked about. But please share what share 706 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:30.360 what you want with how people can connect with you every anywhere. Anywhere you 707 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:37.000 want to connect with me would be on drew verse WorldCom Also Instagram, doumers 708 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:43.480 world podcast. I'm also a guest host on the back of a cereal box 709 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:53.559 podcast every second Saturday of the month and we talked about childhood trahood dreams and 710 00:48:53.840 --> 00:49:00.159 childhood shows and comic books and all that good stuff. And again, if 711 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:05.239 you listen to if you're listening to this podcast, you can find me there. 712 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.599 Just type in juiversity the WorldCom every Monday. Awesome, man, love 713 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:12.320 it. Yeah, the back the zero box is super amounts of fun and 714 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.519 we jup over here real quick to the bullhorn chat because we got Chris saying 715 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.800 this was an amazing interview. Thinky, Chris it. I agree, man, 716 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.239 as a lot of fun, which drew, you know, obviously stated 717 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.159 that he can talk to a wall. So did a pretty good job talking 718 00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.679 to this wall today, so appreciate that. In the they says drews the 719 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.320 man and love the podcast. True. So thank you. Yeah, man, 720 00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.280 you have you got a phenomenal fan base. Out There of people who 721 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.920 love you and I get a question for you. On the event side of 722 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:45.039 stuff. Are you doing another podcast event there and Charlotte area? It's great 723 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.199 that you said that because I am on and I just got an email about 724 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:52.719 a couple of minutes ago the last Thursday of this month, which would be 725 00:49:53.800 --> 00:50:00.280 the twenty Ay, Af are you doing them once a month? Doing once 726 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:01.840 a month? Okay, dude, I'm might, I won't. Probably won't 727 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.679 make it next month, but I'm moving next month. So maybe June. 728 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.719 If you do one in June, maybe June to okay, well, I 729 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.519 will make sure to have one in June just for you. Yeah, say, 730 00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:15.760 I think we're going to have like one car when we get back. 731 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:17.960 I don't know if we'll have to by then, but if not, I'm 732 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.679 sure I pick you up. It's fine, like three hours from you, 733 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:23.599 but I want to come up and check it out, man. I think 734 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:28.199 it'd be super fine. But yeah, we meet in the middle and go 735 00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.360 to Mr Beast place and then head to I think he's in. I think 736 00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:36.599 he's in somewhere between the two of us. That's not a bad idea. 737 00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.639 Yeah, well, we'll talk about that. But yeah, podcast meet up 738 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.559 on April twenty eight. It's where you can learn a little bit more podcast 739 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.239 and it's funny because the special like topic of this episode, I mean of 740 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.719 this podcast meet up, is going to be videography. So we could talk 741 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:59.800 about anything about video and how to add video to your podcast and how to 742 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:01.880 you know, you short clips and how to upload it to Youtube, all 743 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.039 that good stuff as well. As well, I'm also going to be doing 744 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:14.800 a live podcast from Charlotte Cigar Week in two weeks, started on the twenty 745 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.840 one. I would be at the VIP events and interviewing people that have made 746 00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:24.519 cigars, that are enthusiast and fishing Nados and again learning a little bit more 747 00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:30.599 about my little little bit more myself, as well as allow my guests to 748 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.199 learn a little bit more from the guests. I mean loud my audience, 749 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.760 learn a little bit more about the guests as well. Man, I dude, 750 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.000 I think you know. First of all, drew, I love that 751 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.159 you're doing the podcast meet up. Obviously I think that's super dope. And 752 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.119 then the going live from the cigar place and doing that, I think that 753 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:53.199 is another amazing potential stream of revenue for creators. It's like that's our talent, 754 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:57.320 man, that's what we do. We show up and we have conversations 755 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.360 and we create spaces for people, and so hopefully somebody listen to this will 756 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:06.039 be inspired by that to say how can I go to a local event or 757 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.920 maybe even travel to an event and get compensated to sit down and and, 758 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:15.360 you know, talk to people and really promote the event through a live stream? 759 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.039 I think that's a really innovative thing that you're doing, so I really 760 00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:21.679 appreciate you sharing that as well. So awesome, drew. Well, man, 761 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.199 I appreciate your bro High Five from a long day, really long distance 762 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:29.599 right now. Will be closer sooner and be able to maybe connect and hang 763 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.559 out and do all this fun things. So I really appreciate your man. 764 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:36.400 Thank you really thank you so much for having me on your at your show. 765 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.519 Is Amazing. I can't believe you're doing a daily show. Extremely Great 766 00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:45.440 and generous with your time, and thanks for everybody WHO's listening and can here 767 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.519 to sound my voice and, as always, love, peace, chicken grease, 768 00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:52.880 love it, man. All right, there you go. That is 769 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.199 my friend, drew mild and please go follow him. Drew versus the world 770 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.079 everywhere. That drew versus the world that you can find it. He'll be 771 00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.920 there, so go check him out. And then tomorrow I'm going to be 772 00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.239 back here at two PM eastern time with my friend my coast. I have 773 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.400 a guest co host on Friday's his name is Sid Meadows and we're going to 774 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:13.440 dive into his world of digital sales and what that looks like to grow your 775 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.960 business, how to use all this stuff that we're using, podcasting, live 776 00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:20.800 streaming and whatever else that he does. Like he's into a bunch of media 777 00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.599 stuff and content creation. But how can it drive business and Grow Your Business? 778 00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:28.920 If your business owner or you know a business owner, please share the 779 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.239 link pretty close to you wherever you're watching at that. It's there. It's 780 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:36.679 on creating daily somewhere. Grab that link and share it out and join US 781 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.400 tomorrow. It's gonna be a lot of fun as we celebrate Friday. It's 782 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.400 Friday, it's Good Friday and and we're going to be talking about digital sales. 783 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:45.480 So a lot of stuff to celebrate there. All right, we'll see 784 00:53:45.519 --> 00:54:00.280 you tomorrow. Thanks so much.