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Center we are can really like you're
listening to creating daily, there's something wrong
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with you. You know that because
you and I are like a mullets.
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It is the is the business.
So he's the front part of the haircut
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and then I'm the party in the
back. I think they're hilarious. Speaks
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to me. It's like he's saying
what I'm thinking. What is going on?
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Everyone? Welcome to another episode of
creating daily. Today's April Fourteen,
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two thousand and twenty two. I
don't know why I said that. There's
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probably a date pretty close to wherever
you're watching this and I'm super pumped about
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today's show. I get my friend
drew mildon on the show from drew versus
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the world podcast. He's booked over
a hundred guests on his show and I'm
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exciting to learn how, because I'm
booking guests on the daily and I'm not
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doing a very good job at it
because actually I think it's him the wrong
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link. And so he was like
he literally came in, no pre show
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conversation. I haven't even talked to
him, which is like, what's up,
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drew, here we go. So
we're going to learn some best practices
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along the way of how not to
be like me and take care of your
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guests better than I have. So
I'm looking forward to not only learning,
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but maybe a little bit of roasting
from drew as far as my process on
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this side of the Mike as the
host. So anyway, we're going to
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get into all that fun stuff.
I'm super pumped. If you're watching somewhere
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around, leave me a comment.
If you're watching on Youtube, leave me
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comment there. Let us know where
you're watching from. If you're on bullhorn,
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leaves the comment. They're also on
bullhorn. There are some questions there
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as well. All so you can
put a little if you have a little
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question for drew or myself, you
can put it in a little question section.
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If you're on Youtube, do a
queue Cole and Bam whatever. And
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I am I'm jacked up on some
coffee. Got Knee jumping in over here
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on Youtube. Still Messing up.
Yes, knee, I'm always messing up
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because that's what you do and you
just do stuff and you throw them out
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against the wall. And then we
got nick over here on Bull Horn.
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We got Chris. Just did a
demo of bullhorn with Nick. Chris said
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Awesome, Chris. I think you're
going to like it. Man, super
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good platform. Anyway, let's get
into a couple of little segments here.
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What it's toll time with creating daily
all right, so today's tool time is
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a new tool that I just discovered. Actually, I discovered it a while
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ago, did not implement it,
and then I just launched a new subscription
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base membership for my fishing podcast and
I realized really quickly at a couple pieces
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of that we're going to be a
headache. So I started looking for a
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software that can connect two different platforms
and automate some processes like some welcome emails,
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some access to a different APP.
So I'm actually using Zappier. Let's
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go between, or potentially I haven't
haven't turned the on switch on yet,
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but potentially to go between member press
and hello audio. So basically, when
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someone signs up for my membership,
they will automatically be sent an access link
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to the hell of audio private podcast
feed and they will also if they cancel
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their membership, then that communication will
happen and they'll be kicked out of the
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hello audio membership feed. So anyway, thought maybe some other creators can find
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this useful, especially if you're doing
membership stuff. It is. It's pretty
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cool. It's fairly simple as well
and, as you know, knee has
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pointed out in the chats, I
probably was going to mess it up,
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but I'm going to figure it out
and do that. So anyway, let's
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move on to Creator highlights. No
cooking necessary and no assembly required. It's
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got to be fun, all right. Today's creator highlight is brought to you
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by one sheet pro so. One
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can go check out my one sheet, and this is basically a one sheet
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on steroids. Your whole Creator profile, your whole digital creator profile, all
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in one place. If you want
to get booked on more shows, if
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you want to, you know,
pitch a brand or whatever like this,
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the whole media kit one she all
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over there as well. So the
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you have to make money, which
everybody knows that I like to be connected
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with brands who give me opportunities to
make money. And then also they have
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a ranking system in their directory.
So the more that you share it in,
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by the way, is also a
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The more that you rank within there, you know, gives you some clout,
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I guess. I don't know,
maybe we'll see, but anyway,
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so go check those guys out in
my my. Oh No, I mean
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to hit this again because I messed
up again. The Gosh, I'm keeping
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score. Let me see if I
can quiet another highlights. All right,
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so there we got. I can
quiet that down. The Creator highlight goes
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to my friend Sean Anthony over at
schools out. Now. What podcast?
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So this is a podcast for former
students to this really discover their gifts.
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So to help them discover their gift. Super Awesome Creator. I met Shawan
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over on clubhouse running podcasting rooms and
super great guy. Do a lot of
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cool stuff in the creator community.
So go check out his podcast. Schools
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over. Now what? So that
is the creator highlight. Now I'm going
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to welcome my friend drew on and
we got a lot to we got.
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We got it. We get even
a pre show to catch up on.
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So we get a lot to catch
up on and learn how he's mastered the
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skill of booking some guests. Drew, what's up, my man? Don't
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say anything because I got to muted, as I always have. Everybody muted.
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Maybe you can mute yourself, Kenya, because I muted you. There
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you are about it. I got
it, Dude. I need somebody to
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just give me like a red button
that's like guests mute, guest on mute
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and then just plugs in USB and
no matter what platform I'm on, it
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recognizes the guests on Mute and mute
button. That possible? Yeah, I
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think you might have a plug in
at Zapp here that does that for you.
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So I hope that is APP beer. You know right. Maybe they.
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Dude, that would be great.
I'm sure he cam or stream deck
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or somebody has it. I just
haven't figured it out so anyway. But
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Dude, before we jump into all
about how you book these wonderful guests on
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your podcast, please take a moment
and share with us about your podcast,
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about yourself and really anything you want
to because we need to do a pre
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show to learn any of this stuff. So go for it. Okay,
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cool, Hey, drew crue,
this is drew from drew verse the world,
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where each week I share stories of
people who are changing the world and
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through your success and failures, I
allow my listener become world changes themselves.
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So you tune in every Monday on
anywhere you listen to podcast and you'll be
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able to learn a little bit more
about other people, but definitely learn about
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more about yourself. And at the
end I wanted to everybody to understand it's
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not just drew verse the world,
it's you verse the world. Oh my
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gosh, dude. First of all, the drew crew. I'm super I'm
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envious, man. I want to
come up with a community name for creating
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daily community people, but I don't
know what that is. So maybe we
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can brainstorm it, create our lights. I don't know. Like the most
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creative thing I came up with is
like Creator people. Like I'm like,
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that's not going to work. It's
pretty sounds whatever. That's sounds like Sam
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paper. All right, this terrible, like dide. This way you get
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when you do a daily show.
Your brain melts every day and you're like,
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I can't come up with anything new. This is actually really good.
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For me, so so new.
Let's jump into this. Man, you
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have over a hundred podcast episodes and
a hundred percent of those are guests for
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drew versus the world. Yes,
a hundred percent of them are guests.
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So, man, why did you
start an interview show? That's kind of
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my first question, so that that
will go into a kind of the genesis
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of the podcasts overall. The reason
why I started in genesis your versus world.
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That's actually I think that might be
a segment I need to create.
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But the reason why we came,
I came up with the podcast in general
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was because I always had a connection
with people and out in the bars,
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out traveling out just doing some flanthropy
work, and also in just to workspaces.
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I'm I was always able to sit
down with anybody, and I say
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their mother, and to turn about
anything because I had a wide range of
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experiences and usually the connection with people
and what'll we call small talk, how
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we becomes a conversation is through shared
experiences. So once, once down the
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alley, I was kind of looking
at friends that were creatives themselves. Somewhere
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rappers, some were music artists.
It was like singing somewhere graphic designers and
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videographers and things like that and some
of the photographers, and I didn't have
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that I and I didn't have the
you know, the ability to wrap or
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saying so we sat down. It
was like, man, you could do
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a podcast because you love talking to
people, and I was like yeah,
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man, but like why would anybody
want to listen to me just talk for
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fifteen or twenty at thirty minutes?
I was like, you know what,
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I'm usually able to ascertain a lot
information through people by just having general conversations,
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and what I used to come out
of it is learning more about not
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just them, but learning more about
myself, and I kind of attribute a
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lot of the stuff that I teach
or a lot of stuff that's learned through
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diverse the world, kind of similar
to Avatar. I don't know if anybody
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knows Avatar, the last airbender,
is that he goes to these different lands,
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specifically the different tribes, and learns
a different element and through that different
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element he becomes the whole empowerment of
the Avatar. So that's what I think
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through verse the world is about.
Is About having these guests on and,
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just like the Avatar, taking tidbits
of their information and apply it to yourself
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to become better version of yourselves.
So that's the reason why I kind of
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have an interview based podcast, because
I think I could give more instead of
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just chatting about what I've learned from
somebody, but have that person up center
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and actually sharing information about their lives. All right, man, I can
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do it that. I like that. You know, the one thing that
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I have always, and I'm not, been a podcaster who brings on guests.
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Now my fishing show we do.
That's where all the content comes from.
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That's where all the you know,
for us, the benefit really is
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like that's the content, like that's
the gold that they're the professionals were just
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the guide to this kind of moving
through the trail, if you will.
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So for human it sounds like that. You know, some of the benefits
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for you is like one you're personally
learning to your letting. You know,
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you're giving other people an opportunity to
learn from your guests as well. Now,
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from a podcast grows standpoint, and
you've seen that to be valuable from
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that point of like your guests really
getting behind the episodes and helping promote yeah,
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it's I find it's exponential growth every
time I release episode just because of
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a fact that it's basically a brag
sheet for that person. It's like,
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Hey, if if I want to, as a letsay author, I went
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to say, Hey, read my
book, but really you can say now
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I hey, I have a podcast
out there that really entails not just my
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life but the reason behind me actually
creating this book and also what you would
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get from this book. And I
can shoot this out with the masses.
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Why not share this with my people? So it's sometimes, as we probably
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all know, hard for you to
get a guest to share the episode,
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but usually when it's a good content
and they are behind it and you see
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that they're kind of clicking with the
episode, they usually share it. And
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what I do, and I'll get
to those. You know how the aftermath
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after actually have the podcast, I
mean sorry, as actually after I record
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the podcast, is I send a
bunch of different like clips and social media
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post and tags that they can and
little write ups that they can add to
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their websites and stuff like that,
which helps them get a little bit more
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into Oh, I don't have to
do all this work myself. So now
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I have these resources are called assets, that can just drag and drop into
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these into my kind of, I
would say, my machine of marketing.
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Yeah, so I just call I
call it a marketing tool for them.
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So look at usually helps them a
lot. So okay, so it sounds
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like it helps you in a couple
different ways, and specially growth if you
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provide the right thing. So let's
go from the process. Man. I
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would love to hear your process,
because my cohost actually manages all of our
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guests and take now we've done over
a hundred and something episodes as well,
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but he's like managing that whole process. I'm not doing any of that.
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Now, on creating daily I'm like, Dude, I'm trying to book for
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at least, you know, probably
three guests, three, two, maybe
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four guests per week, and it's
a little sloppy and I'm you know,
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you're welcome to use my horrible process, as you know, as a tool
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to teach. But let's started the
very beginning, man, like so you've
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told us why, you know where
you should, you know why I should
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have a guest on, but why? Where do you find these people?
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You just find them anywhere, friends, family, recommend ays, like where
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are you trying to find a guess
because you're booking a lot. Your book
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in one a week, right.
Yeah, so I'm not going to hold
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you. First and foremost, your
background looks amazing and my background looks like
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I'm in a penitentiary. I'm just
going to I just want to put that
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out there. That's I need to
learn. I need to learn from that.
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So if you have a created daily
about that, I need to learn
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how to light up my background.
I'll tell you. Actually, I'll tell
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you a real quick how to do
it. This is a concrete wall that's
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gray. Just go a little floodlight
from Amazon, putting the floor and turn
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it on and get another one to
put on it like a shelf for something,
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and put some crap back there.
It's really okay, really yeah,
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and it actually me, who,
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hates my backdrop. Actually says it
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So anyway, he keeps me,
keeps me humble. So anyway, back
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back to how do you find these
guests on your show? So I honestly
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use instagram. That's been my place
of choice. Just to cite there and
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the reason why I use instagram or
facebook and things like that is because when
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I'm thinking about who I want to
have on my episode or who I went
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as a guest, I need to
be generally interested in my person and usually
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through facebook, instagram, social media, you can kind of see the highlights
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of people and then you could dive. You don't know how much research you
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can do about a person through just
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going through her linkedin and you're like, Oh, I know you have
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three kids, I know all the
kids name, I know how tall they
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are, I know you know you
went to Zimbabwe in April two thousand and
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twenty three and you had a horrible
time. You was in this hotel like
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this. So much that you can
decipher from instagram. But also it's a
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good medium because the DM's the sliding
the DM. You just don't have to
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do it when you know you trying
to hollow. You can do it when
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you're trying to get a guess too, because you can connect that general connection
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with a photo. So, for
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hey, I really like that photo
that you have of your kitchen set
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and I was thinking about getting kitchen
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you look like an enter. It
would be great to have your podcast
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and I call it I say Brag
about the person first, then hit him
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with the axe about the podcast.
So show a sign of general interest,
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like Hey, I know that.
You know I really enjoy you. Know
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you're traveling or you're creating daily podcast
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on a daily basis. I can't
believe you've been doing it. I would
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love to have you as a guest
on the podcast and boom you can.
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That's my general like first DM and
then moving forward. You kind of got
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the next steps of like reaching out
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first of all, you said that
you can find out all this information.
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I think it's pretty creepy. My
wife and I talked about it all
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the time, where we're like man, I can literally could spend a few
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hours and learn about someone whole live
and so I thought you're going in a
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different direction there. For a second
I thought you're gonna be like Hey,
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look, man, I know how
many kids you have, I know what
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their room looks like, I know
what your car you driving, know where
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you live, so you better come
on my podcast, like I thought.
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That is where you're going like your
daughter is taken, good luck. Yeah,
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I'm going to steal your kid and
your wife until you come on my
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show. Hey, you got to
do what you got to do sometimes,
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right, but but I love it
that you are that intentional about booking guests
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and so far I have been as
well. You know, luckily, I've
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been in this group of a really
amazing creators and content creator, so it's
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not really that difficult for me to
reach out and say, Hey, drew,
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I you know, come on the
show. I you got a lot
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of value. I know what that
is. I've been friends with you and
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following you for a while. But
I love that, if it is somebody
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I want to connect with that might
be just a little bit out of reach,
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that you're saying, Hey, go
engage with their content, go and
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comment on stuff, but then shoot
them at DM and you know, I
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think that's good. I think that's
a great strategy, man, because I
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can't tell you how many emails I
get, and I'm sure you're the same.
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Oh, Hey, my client,
Larry, is a allstar sales guy
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and want to be on your podcast. I'm like, that's great, but
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I don't have a podcast about sales. So I don't. It's why are
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you emailing me? Stop doing that. Right. Here's here's the thing,
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and you probably learned this through being
in sales. You never let a lead
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go by, right. So,
yeah, what I would do in that
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situation, even though he's not,
you know, quote unquote, Larry's not
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a good line, a good line
for my podcast. I would be like
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hey, but I do have a
podcast friend that I would recommend you too,
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and then I reach out to that
podcast friend and say, Hey,
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Larry is into business, but my
pockets not really into business, can't would
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you like to have my podcast?
And then I create that connection. So
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now when Larry has is on that
podcast, he's like, Oh yeah,
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drew is about let's see some wild
topic and podcasting. Fishing, right,
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let's say fishing, and his pockets
is about fishing. So now he's going
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to send his fishing friends to my
way. So that's just never lose that
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networking connection. But I've had a
trillions of again, DM's emails, facebook
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messages, carrier pigeons and text messages. Yeah, man, that's a great
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strategy to draw. I love that
man. Like don't, because some oftentimes
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I get a little frustrated to might
even send a Zinger back, like dude,
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like do a better job, have
a great day, don't ever reach
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out again. But the booking for
podcast or so maybe I should chill out
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a little bit. I probably missed
the opportunity me. It's your hat,
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forward or backwards. Me Do this
because we word is evil billy and backwards
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is nice billy. So I just
want to make you more yeah, so
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backwards had is billies having a rough
hair day or needs a haircut or the
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hair sprays out or you know whatever, like I have the world's worst hair,
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but anyhow, so we can move
on a little bit from my hair
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and talk more about yes, so
when you're doing when you're like, I'm
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going to call it prospecting. will
use them sales terms. You're like,
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when you're prospecting potential guests, how
are you keeping these things organized? You
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like putting, putting potentials in a
spreadsheet. Like how are you keeping up
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with the with the guest pitches?
So again, I'm not going to hold
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you or I'm not going to fake
the funk. I I'm not really organized
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in that strategy, but I've become
I'm becoming more organized. So I do
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have a spreadsheet that has all my
guests that I have on and that I
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plan on having on. I don't
update as much as I should, but
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what I like to do is have
basically three columns at the moment, one
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column with the guest name, one
column with the recording date and one column
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with the potential air date, and
that allows me to be a little bit
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more organized for Kating, creating a
content for that episode, like Social Media
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Post and emails, and making sure
that the guests has been sent out the
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email for them to actually be a
part of the podcast and a link to
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going to the the virtual studio that
I'm using at the current time. So
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that's kind of my strategy at the
moment. But I am moving to things
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like Trello, I think was another
one, basically some kind of compo combine
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board set up where then I can
manage that through a system like maybe Zappier
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and conjunction with my counter league calendar
that I use currently for Brainin part that
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use currently for getting my guests to
book time on my calendar. Okay,
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yeah, man, I just started
doing that with with Trello, because I
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used Trollo for like like sponsorship out
reaching, all that kind of stuff.
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I'm like, man, I should
do this because there's somebody you know.
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I was in a room yesterday and
a linkedin audio room. Super Great Guy
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was on the stage talking. I'm
like God, he'd be perfect for the
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podcast. And then I'm over here
writing notes. I'm like, I'm going
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to lose that. Why am I
doing that? So that's a good tip.
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Man, like get a Trelloh or, you know, spreadsheet or just
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a Google doc or whatever. So
once you do that, man, what
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is you so you got that?
You got that kind of organized. Do
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you do like a precall screening?
Like how are you qualifying? Because maybe
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you like them on their highlight real
on instagram or linked in or facebook,
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but how do you dig a level
deeper? Because I'm not really doing that
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right now. I'm just like booking
people because I know them. I feel
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like I know them pretty good.
But for strangers, I guess. What's
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your qualification process? It's funny that
you say that, because me you met
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a cliphouse. You don't know me
from nobody, so you do kind of
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know my holly. I like real
as well. But all in all,
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honestly, I don't have precalls.
I, Um, I'm a person of
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if you can fill out my calendarly, then I think that you're at least
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good enough to be on a podcast. Okay, so two things. I
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always ask them to fill out the
countardly and I always asks him to fill
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out a form. I use Google
forms and has old information. I need
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to create show notes also to create
these social media templates and things like that.
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good enough to fill out that,
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I think that you're least reasonable person
to be on a pocast. And I've
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always said I can talk to a
wall. So I don't care if you're
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if you're you know, I had
a podcast about about flat earth and the
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gentleman was a flat earth and he
is his guess, his his ideas were
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kind of not are not commonplace in
the world. Yeah, so instead of
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me like berating him and being like
yeah, wrong, wrong, for my
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mind point is like hey, how
can I understand what he understands and why
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he understands it? So if you
just take a different spin on how you
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gathering this information, you'll never have
a bad guess, you'll just have bad
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episodes, if that makes sense.
Let makes sense. Yeah, I get
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it, but that flat earth episode, by the way, it was great.
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So people should definitely look that up
and check it out. A lot
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of fun. All right, so
you're so you're kind of keeping organized your
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like Trello or spreadsheet or whatnot.
You're reaching out to people, you're sending
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them and this is what I think
it's confusing because I have a calendarly as
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well. I only have a few
questions on it. But what is your
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calendarly? What does that until?
What do you what are you asking of
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them to fill out and give to
you? So this is why I say
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that, if you're going to so, I have a two top two step
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process. My coundarly is pretty simple, direct and free, and then I
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go to forms, where I then
send a google form to the guests,
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and Google form, since I use
a lot of google products, like Google
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driving, all that stuff. It
sends like, for instance, I get
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there their head shot or something like
that in Google forms and said it saves
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it into a folder where then I
could just pull it from my phone into
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Canava. So my first line of
defense is, can you fell the candidly?
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My second line defenses can you fill
out the form my third line defenses.
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Can you show up on time and
when I send you to correct link,
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because my leg doesn't change, it's
just you need to be there on
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time. So that's kind of my
process moving forward after that. Okay,
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got it, because, yeah,
that's where I'm at right now. I'm
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trying to figure out like how do
I use somebody said, because I put
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stuff out there and say hey,
anybody want to be on the show?
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Blah, Blah Blah, and then
I give people just you know, influx
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with people like I want to be
on the show'm be on the show,
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but then I don't really have like
a good application process. And then I
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send them the calendarly and then they
get on my calendar and now I feel
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obligated because I'm like, even if
they even if I read their stuff,
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I'm like, yeah, I'm not
really that interested. Then you know that
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I mean. But I guess I
should do I mean to do a little
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research before I just don't invite anyone. So send them out there, but
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I'm kind of looking for something.
Maybe we're the form is first, then
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I send the calendarly once it's approved. So maybe like an application and then
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so you can do that you could
do what I do and reverse yeah,
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and reverse you like yeah, here's, here's the form is. Fill out
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the form. Okay, now you're
in a queue. Got and that person
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is in a queue and you can
review them weekly or every other day or
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something like that and just say,
okay, I think you're a good fit,
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thank you for filling out the form. Boom. Or even when you
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fell out form, when you fill
out form and Google forms, you can
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have like a little pop up screen
that says, thank you for filling a
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form. Please wait for later,
for on future response and calendar invites or
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whatever. So give them hope at
lace give them some hope before you crash
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them. All right, man.
So, so we kind of learn about
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tools and soft now, when it
comes to booking guests or looking for guests,
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are you like putting this on your
calendar to batch do this, or
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you just doing it at inspiration?
You see something on Instagram, you reach
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out, like, how's your your
outreach process? It's basically as like you
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everybody probably just heard, I'm very
like all over the place. So it's
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kind of like that's fair. That's
when the when I see somebody who I'm
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again generally interested I used to just
reach out, but what I try to
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do is at least once a week. It might be on Monday, might
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be on Tuesday, might be on
Friday, whenever, reach out to at
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least one person that I find interesting. Okay, and usually, like Frances,
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my my calendar right now is booked
until about, I think, mid
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May or beginning June. So to
have a batch of people that I can
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always, you know, have on
a podcast. Plus I have a batch
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of friends that I know that if
if I need to, they could come
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back on or that's another that's a
another thing I will talk about later,
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of how to interact with your guests
after the episodes to maybe having part two
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and then you have extra content and
and it's a creative way how to reuse
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an episode and things like that.
But that's kind of my process. Is
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like at least once a week,
I reach out to at least one person
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and just say hey, you know, I again just put that feeler out
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there. Hey, I like your
content, I like what you've been doing.
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Would you like to be a guest
on podcast? Another place that's good
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for that, not just instagram,
is clubhouse. Now clubhouse, I like
410
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to just go around to some crazy
rooms sometimes, but I like to go
411
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around to the rooms and if something
hits like somebody's like conversation hits me on
412
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.920
like hey, you'd be a great
on pot on the on the podcast coming
413
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up is in a couple weeks here
I'm going to have somebody on by the
414
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name of espree on and it was
the face of clubhouse right. Yeah,
415
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and and she, me and her
connected on a different types of different type
416
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or post syndrome level and she was
such a great resource for me. So
417
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I was like, I have to
have you on. And what I have
418
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ever known about a spree if I
was in a clubhouse? No, but
419
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that I reach out to her.
Yes, and she gave me a lot
420
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of inspiration. And and again I
did the Brag and then I did that,
421
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hey, would you like to be
my pocket? She said, I
422
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.880
would love to. So just keep
this, make sure you're consistent, make
423
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sure don't over ride, don't over
over exert yourself. They'll make it.
424
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.519
Oh, I need to reach out
to seventeen people to this week. Reach
425
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.119
out to one person. Make sure
you unless you're a billy and want to
426
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.799
do something daily, but just reach
out to he'll do one person you start
427
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.319
one person and then you can move
on forward to as many as you would
428
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.799
like. Just make sure that your
booked. I would say make sure your
429
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book, your calendar, is booked
up for at least a month to have
430
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some padding. Okay, now are
you badge recording news as well? Are
431
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.279
you trying to record? Yeah,
multiple week or multiple day. I have
432
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:52.279
right now about seven in the queue. Let's go. So it's good.
433
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I just I try to make sure
that if I want to take a long
434
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break or I want to, you
know, just celebrate our birthday for a
435
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.799
week or something like that and I
don't want to release episode, I could
436
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:07.519
just hit push published and all that
that episodes out. Yeah, man,
437
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:08.839
that's it. That's that's the way
to do it. I think if he
438
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.559
can, you know, like I
mean obviously creating daily I can't. But
439
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.119
for my fishing show do we get
eight or ten in the bank like Rad
440
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.160
to rock and roll. So we're
pretty excited about that. So, men,
441
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.200
are you having people when you're in
this booking process and they're doing your
442
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.119
Calendari and they're doing your Google form? Is there like a release waiver,
443
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.920
like a press release waiver or something
of that nature? Like I've never been
444
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.119
good at making sure this is a
part of the package. Yeah, me
445
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.799
too, and I know I should
be because there's some crazy stuff that sometimes
446
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.880
said and I am the type of
podcast I do not like to take out
447
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.400
anything inside. I'm taking out the
episode or I'm taking I'm not taking out
448
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:53.759
anything, and I'm pretty like the
ums the eyes you probably heard during this
449
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:59.480
this episode happens during the root,
like a drew verse of World Episode.
450
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.279
I've become a lot better with it, but it happens in conversation. But
451
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.720
I think that the whole few waivers
and stuff like that, once I become,
452
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.759
you know, big wig like billy
over here, I should definitely implement
453
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:17.720
it just in case. And I
don't you know the only reason that now
454
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:19.640
not on this show, but I
was getting ready to start interviewing people and
455
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.519
creating for money, but then I
decide to do creating daily and I probably
456
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.680
need to implement this feature and I
think I don't want to let the cat
457
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.599
out of the bag, but I
think one sheet pros working on a guess
458
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.839
intake form as well. Yeah,
so, so hopefully that's if you haven't
459
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.920
go to one she PROCOM or go
to one sheet dot pros, last billy
460
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.480
good, Billy Thorpe, and then
and then sign up for one sheet.
461
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:42.759
That way, if you buy it, I get a commission. But anyhow,
462
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.880
I think they're going to do something
like that. That may include like
463
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.880
a waiver or something of that nature. Say Hey, once you, once
464
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.119
you sign up, like. But
that's the thing that I haven't really had
465
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.680
anybody come back to me and say, Hey, take down that episode.
466
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:02.000
I don't want to have you had
anything like that before. Um, there's
467
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:07.640
been some episodes I want to take
down, but there isn't hasn't been anybody
468
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:12.240
who I really would say, Oh, they came back and said, Oh,
469
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.559
I shouldn't have said that or anything
like that. I haven't had a
470
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:21.519
conversation and I think that's important as
a interview were to really this is not
471
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.680
I got you a moment and if
the person has that kind of like,
472
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:31.279
for instance, I would say I
my episode with Carol Baskins Baskin released recently.
473
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.000
I reach it to the main feed. I could ask the question everybody
474
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.119
wanted ever me to acts but I'm
like no, we're having a good time.
475
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:44.079
I really want to understand her life. I want to stand her background
476
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:50.400
and once you established that as an
interview where people come a little bit more,
477
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.400
have the billy and more to tell
you more and feel more comfortable about
478
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.200
what they're telling you, because when
it comes from my heart, they just
479
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.079
like hey, listen, it is
what it is. Yeah, so I
480
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:05.359
mean that's good, man. That's
a good and maybe you speaking of kind
481
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.880
of following up and doing another show. Maybe you and I could jump on
482
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:12.440
another episode sometime and talk about the
interviewing process, because once again, it's
483
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.160
something I'm trying to get better at. I mean, you would think doing
484
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.640
it every day I would get better
way faster, but I still struggle at
485
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.160
times. So that's that's a good
point, man. Like do a good
486
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.200
job for other people that you're talking
to and in kind of treat them as
487
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.200
you want to be treated, and
then you know, maybe bigger names will
488
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.720
come on and be more vulnerable with
you're not bigger names, but more people
489
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:35.279
and the people you want will come
on and be more vulnerable with you.
490
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.000
I think that's a good too.
That's a good takeaway from this episode for
491
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:43.160
sure. So you've talked about you
have some repeat guests on. Now what
492
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:47.319
if an interview just goes south like
what do you what do you do with
493
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:52.359
that guess? How do you handle
that guess that way? So I had
494
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:58.920
when episode that went south. Well, two instances when episode went southist because
495
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.200
I had the person on and they're
very shut mouth, I like to call
496
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.720
it. They didn't, they do
want to say anything. They want to
497
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.519
talk about anything. They I asked
them, I say, do you know
498
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:14.199
you're being recorded? Are you know
you're on a podcast? And they really
499
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:19.280
didn't have any intent on actually having
a conversation that day. For some reason
500
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.159
they were very gungho about being in
a podcast, but that day didn't really
501
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.400
have a conversation. So at that
time I just kind of reached out to
502
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:32.719
him. I said, Hey,
I cannot who least episode because it has
503
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.760
no value to anybody that's going to
be listened to it. It has no
504
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.320
like, puny and points, it
has no nothing that you're giving to them
505
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.880
and it's nothing. I'm taken away
from it, and that's an important thing
506
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.199
too, as I said in beginning, is I'm not just I'm taking away
507
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.079
from the listeners, take away from
the guests, but I'm also taking away
508
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:52.039
from the guests. And if I
can't get no value out, what you're
509
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.360
saying. I know the listeners not
going to get any value that which is
510
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.519
saying. So I kind of just
reached out to him was like hey,
511
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.480
this I can't release episode. We
can record another episode if you would like,
512
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.920
but this is not going out this
week. And I've never got a
513
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.639
response back from that person, but
that is what it is. And then
514
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:13.599
the second one was the episode had
horrible, horrible sound, and I did
515
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.519
not want to release this episode.
Had A horrible sound, like horrible quality,
516
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.639
and I knew I was never going
to get this guest again because he
517
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:25.320
gave me hit bit of his time
and he he's really in famous cook and
518
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:30.679
he has his whole like media company
behind him, everything like that. And
519
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.039
I said, you know what,
I'm just going to release this episode because
520
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.079
that episode had all the nuggets,
like all the chunks another and I was
521
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.880
like there's it's hard to create,
recreate because he was in a moment where
522
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.679
of vulnerability that I don't think he
would get to again. So I just
523
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.639
released the episode and I said,
Hey, man, the episode is going
524
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:55.000
to have horrible audio, but every
point that you had sounds great. I
525
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.960
leveled it. Make sure that at
least two points that you had there came
526
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:04.239
out and was the most important part
of our conversation. So man, yeah,
527
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.960
yeah, sometimes you get to do
that. I've been there before too.
528
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:08.559
I'm a man. This audio isn't
great, but did the content was
529
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.599
so fire like I'm just going to
release it. If people complain, like
530
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.119
maybe they'll see through it because it's
so good. Man. So you've mentioned
531
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.119
Carol basking, you mentioned this famous
chief and I know people always ask this
532
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.639
question when I'm in clubhouse rooms about
booking guests. How do you go about
533
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:31.280
getting bigger name people on your show? I don't this is going to sound
534
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:37.880
very brazen and very like you lying, but I don't think. I try
535
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:44.480
to keep very bay the same level, and that's what I think helps,
536
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.320
because when I DM somebody, I'm
like, yeah, you're going to reach
537
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.079
out or you're not going to.
You're going to say no. You gotta
538
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.039
say yes. Yeah, so I
don't care who you are. Maybe have
539
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.840
to go through different channels to actually
get you on or potentially get you on,
540
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.320
but what I'm going to do is
have the same respect for you as
541
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.199
I would have somebody who wrokes down
the street or at a piece of shop,
542
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.719
because then when you level set that
and have a good baseline, at
543
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.760
the end of the day, it
doesn't care. I don't care if you're
544
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.519
making a hundred million dollars or seven
hundred and fifty at the McDonald's, you're
545
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:21.280
going to get some value from that
person. Yeah, so that's that's the
546
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.000
I think a good way to have
that a different type of mindset when you
547
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:29.559
reaching out to these quote unquote bigger
people is to just have the mindset that
548
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:34.519
they're this. There's somebody who literally
was born a same same way you was
549
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.880
born. They might have different circumstances, but they either they came out as
550
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.119
something. Yeah, right, I'm
not going to see like I just yeah,
551
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.920
it's and then when you have that
type of level again, I reach
552
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.719
out to DM's but, most importantly, a lot of people that are have
553
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.119
the you know, higher counts of
followers. Usually dms are flooded, so
554
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:59.800
you might not get heard. So
I would either a reach out, try
555
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:05.840
to look up their publicists or be
they usually might have a contact on their
556
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.760
email. So I mean on their
instagram, you click that contact and send
557
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:15.320
that information that contact, or you
can just legitimately go on facebook, finds
558
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:22.239
or Google find their their email.
You can literally Google like their e mail
559
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:28.119
and just follow it like that,
or or do a good old try their
560
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.440
first name, dot their last name
at gmailcom. That's a good one.
561
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.360
So reaching out, to reach out
to bigger name guesses similar to reaching out
562
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.880
the sponsors. It's a very,
very similar game, like you're trying to
563
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:44.000
get somebody to trying to, quote
unquote, sell someone something. I couldn't
564
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.840
the idea of being on your show
or what not. So yeah, man,
565
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:51.239
that's good. I like that,
that approach of and it's in like
566
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.599
you, Cem entry, people like
people like I treat big brands like big
567
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.920
brands. Yeah, sure, they're
big brands, but they got people just
568
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.320
like me working there and making the
visions, and so the more human I
569
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.800
treat them, the more human they'll
be in and be on the show or,
570
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.559
you know, do a deal with
me or whatever. So I love
571
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.400
that Mans. So what's let's talk
about your kind of your follow up approach.
572
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:14.719
So you got the guests on,
you've told us how to do that,
573
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.960
you've done the interview, you've published
it. You told us in the
574
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.719
beginning you give them some creative assets
to help market the show. Now that
575
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.199
all the dust is settled, what
are you doing to continue those relationships so
576
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.280
you can have them back on later
or do another project with them? So
577
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:37.039
what I like to do definitely now
is reach out to them during the episode,
578
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:42.360
or maybe after episode has dropped,
and just ask them if they want
579
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.960
to do ig live. So I've
been doing that for a while and what
580
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.119
that's been helping with is usually when
you go live it pops up to your
581
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.000
audience, but doing igilive with somebody
else, with that person, it pops
582
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.239
up to their audience. So now
they get to know who you are,
583
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.079
they get to understand, oh,
she was on a she or he was
584
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:06.760
on episode of Jean Verse The World. Maybe I should go and look at
585
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.360
that. So that's a mechanism that
I would so I call it that's kind
586
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:14.239
of like the recap episodes. So
you can do it. I on a
587
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.880
feet, you can do it on
facebook live, you can do it on
588
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:22.519
here, you can do it on
anywhere you want, but a recap to
589
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.840
engage their audience with your audience.
But IG is how I do it.
590
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:32.360
Secondly, reaching out is another thing
that people kind of take for granted,
591
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:36.800
just the fact of just like saying
hey, how are you doing? As
592
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.760
everything all right? How can the
one thing I like to say is,
593
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.840
Hey, I hope you're doing well. How can I help you? Okay,
594
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:49.519
and that in a lot of people
they're like, they're probably say nothing,
595
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.880
I'm doing fine and no, I
don't really need no help or anything
596
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.039
at that time. But some people
be like, oh, man, you
597
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.920
know, I have this new project
that I'm going out would love to,
598
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:05.239
you know, work with you on
on actually being on the podcast, or
599
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.840
would you like to market this for
me or help me out with stuff like
600
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.719
that, and that gives you an
interaction with somebody that you had in a
601
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:15.239
podcast now from a creative standpoint as
well. So reaching out, I usually
602
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:21.519
try to do it from a month, so it's Muff, five, Munth
603
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:27.039
and year, and then yearly reach
out just kind of like yearly, just
604
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.760
be like hey, how hope was
hope as well? How's the kids?
605
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.400
And I'll just tell you a quick
story about how that was super helpful.
606
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:39.800
I had a young lady on the
podcast and she was a can't just survivor
607
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:46.519
and she talked about her her experience
of cancer and surviving and also with her
608
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:55.559
family and creating different festivals, music
festivals in our hometown of Ireland and I
609
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.639
was like hey, you wanted to
recap episode on its instagram and she's like
610
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.239
yeah, you know, right now
I'm in Mexico and I'm okay, yeah,
611
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.559
we could do it whenever you want. So we figured that out forget
612
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.800
to time out and we she got
on the recap and she was like hey,
613
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drew, it has been a long
time. Yeah, I've had covid
614
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and cancer and the same week since
I like yeah, that's the same thing.
615
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I said the same eye movements as
I have covid and cancer the last
616
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week of December, and she talked
about her experiences that in that she talked
617
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about how she, you know,
how she lit was listening to the episode
618
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.119
and she was really like intrigued about
how she was back then before she actually
619
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had those diagnosis, and she talked
about her how she's getting help, how
620
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:46.800
she went to Du buy for a
little bit, how she then she went
621
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to Mexico. So those recap episodes
also allow you to generally connect back with
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a person, not just a guess, with a person, and that was,
623
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I would say, the most,
excuse me, the best experience I
624
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.079
had with one of those recaps,
because I'm like wow, you're overcoming so
625
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:12.360
much that you've already overcome and it
just allowed my guests to explain themselves and
626
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.559
allowed by listenors direct with that story
as well. Wow, man, that's
627
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.639
but yeah, that's powerful, man, and I think that's some power of
628
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podcast, seeing the power of,
you know, bringing on guests, and
629
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that was, you know, like
one I, you know, had this
630
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fishing show and yeah, the guests
is bringing the values, bringing the content,
631
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.559
but it's this networking tool as well. It's like I've met so many
632
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.679
awesome people through that show and then
I've met so many awesome people through like
633
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.199
social audio and clubhouse and then creating
daily. It was like man, I
634
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.039
want to I want to bring people
and have these one on one conversations,
635
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.559
because sometimes clubhouse can be a crowd
and you're like trying to you know,
636
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.599
do like crowd control, you know, while you're trying to have these meaningful
637
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conversations, and so I love that
point of like, you know, you
638
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.280
can bring people on, people you
want to network with, people you want
639
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.639
to get to know and really use
it as that introductory man. So that's
640
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:06.840
that's pretty kill or so drew is
there anything did I just looked at the
641
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.000
time I'm like, holy smokes man, we were just having a good time
642
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.039
and this one get. When you
get to podcasters together, we just talk
643
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.440
all day about the stuff. But
is there any other like strategies or tips
644
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.280
or anything that I didn't really set
you up to say that you like to
645
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share? MMM, I think I've
touched it, touched on a little bit.
646
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:36.599
But persistence is key. And again, billy, you're from a sales
647
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.800
background, so you know that every
no just leads you to when yes,
648
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:47.039
and that's not and I think you
said that in a and a clubhouse room
649
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:52.400
about brand deals and sponsorships. But
that's also in line with getting guests as
650
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.960
well. Yeah, so don't don't
put your head down when somebody says no,
651
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.159
I can't do that or or no, you can't, I can't do
652
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:06.519
that this time. Just keep follow
up. So after that first know,
653
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.760
follow up in a month and I
follow up in two months, follow up
654
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:13.480
in three months, and until that
person is basically annoyed of you and it's
655
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.880
like it also gives a little,
you know, a little pattern their back
656
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.159
like Oh, this person really wants
me on the podcast or really wants me
657
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.760
as a guest and then you never
know. They're like, you know what,
658
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:28.159
it's kind of like Steve Arkle when
he's going out after Laura's like,
659
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.119
I'm wearing you down, girl,
I'm wearing you down. It's kind of
660
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.440
have to wear them down sometimes to
have them on the on the podcast.
661
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:40.719
But I would say keep on pursuing
that person that you really want, if
662
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:45.159
you have a genuine love for that
person, and really don't look at the
663
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.800
numbers of people. So instagram is
a game of numbers. So you might
664
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.480
see somebody with two million followers and
you like, I have no one podcast.
665
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:59.079
You like that's the person's garbage.
The person's already sold to like a
666
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.199
Pepsi or Colda Cola and they can't
see. But some so, so many
667
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.719
things. But if you get that
person, for example, the person I
668
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.039
talked to that it's a cancer survivor
and lives in Scotland, had doesn't have
669
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.760
that many followers at all. She
had the most compet one of the most
670
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.719
compelling stories I've ever heard of my
life of fighting through so those are two
671
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.559
tips. I say. Don't,
don't, don't look at the numbers and
672
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.280
be persistent. If you really generally
want somebody as a guest. Yeah,
673
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.360
man, I love it, dude, and I think you can. You
674
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.440
know, I think another really cool
thing about podcasting is, and I've you
675
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.199
know, I kind of realized this
as I was I had a podcast studio
676
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.840
and there was a guy in there, and it's still still a friend.
677
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.320
I still, you know, host
his podcast, but he has a surfing
678
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:49.800
podcast and he was calling up this
old friend that he hadn't talked to him
679
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.000
like years to talk about surfing and
I'm just producing, I'm not on the
680
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.199
show, I'm not having the conversation, I'm just listening and watching and pushing
681
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.639
buttons and all of a sudden,
man, I like clicked and that moment
682
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.000
I'm like, Dude, I'm creating
a time capsule. Like these guys are
683
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.079
catching up after ten years. They're
talking about their childhood, they're talking about
684
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.079
all this stuff, and I'm like, I'm not just creating content, I'm
685
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.840
not just trying to, you know, make a buck, but I'm over
686
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.079
here creating a little time capsules are
going to live on forever and ever and
687
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:20.880
people can, you know, put
these files on hard drives and our kids
688
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.000
and children's children can go back and
watch the stuff that we created in you
689
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:28.760
know, learn from it, grow
from it, or just go oh,
690
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.079
look old pops, he's just big
KNUCKLEHEAD, you know whatever like. So,
691
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:35.320
yeah, man, I think it's
really cool. You know what you're
692
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.760
doing, drew, and having people
on your show and creating those moments and
693
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.280
those memories, not only for yourself
and your family but for other people in
694
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.440
their families. I think that's pretty
dope. And Yeah, man, I
695
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:47.960
really appreciate you coming on the show
and I'm gonna I'm going to let you
696
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.440
promote some stuff and tell people where
they can find you. But while I'm
697
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.559
doing that, if anybody has any
questions, I feel free to drop it
698
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.960
in the chat for drew. And
we do like a little brief Qa session
699
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:02.320
here and if you're on bullhorn,
I got this little fancy bullhorn scene I
700
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:05.840
think will work. Oh yeah,
so there you go. So, Chris
701
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:09.440
Vakil vaglios in the in the chat
there, but a little questions and chat
702
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.039
section. So feel free to do
that. But drew, where can people
703
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.800
connect with you? I know you're
a man of many talents and ens and
704
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:20.920
you're doing a lot of cool stuff
and different co hosting on different podcasts and
705
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.559
all kind of stuff we hadn't even
talked about. But please share what share
706
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:30.360
what you want with how people can
connect with you every anywhere. Anywhere you
707
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:37.000
want to connect with me would be
on drew verse WorldCom Also Instagram, doumers
708
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:43.480
world podcast. I'm also a guest
host on the back of a cereal box
709
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:53.559
podcast every second Saturday of the month
and we talked about childhood trahood dreams and
710
00:48:53.840 --> 00:49:00.159
childhood shows and comic books and all
that good stuff. And again, if
711
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:05.239
you listen to if you're listening to
this podcast, you can find me there.
712
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.599
Just type in juiversity the WorldCom every
Monday. Awesome, man, love
713
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:12.320
it. Yeah, the back the
zero box is super amounts of fun and
714
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.519
we jup over here real quick to
the bullhorn chat because we got Chris saying
715
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.800
this was an amazing interview. Thinky, Chris it. I agree, man,
716
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.239
as a lot of fun, which
drew, you know, obviously stated
717
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.159
that he can talk to a wall. So did a pretty good job talking
718
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.679
to this wall today, so appreciate
that. In the they says drews the
719
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.320
man and love the podcast. True. So thank you. Yeah, man,
720
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.280
you have you got a phenomenal fan
base. Out There of people who
721
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.920
love you and I get a question
for you. On the event side of
722
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:45.039
stuff. Are you doing another podcast
event there and Charlotte area? It's great
723
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.199
that you said that because I am
on and I just got an email about
724
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:52.719
a couple of minutes ago the last
Thursday of this month, which would be
725
00:49:53.800 --> 00:50:00.280
the twenty Ay, Af are you
doing them once a month? Doing once
726
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:01.840
a month? Okay, dude,
I'm might, I won't. Probably won't
727
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.679
make it next month, but I'm
moving next month. So maybe June.
728
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:08.719
If you do one in June,
maybe June to okay, well, I
729
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:14.519
will make sure to have one in
June just for you. Yeah, say,
730
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:15.760
I think we're going to have like
one car when we get back.
731
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:17.960
I don't know if we'll have to
by then, but if not, I'm
732
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.679
sure I pick you up. It's
fine, like three hours from you,
733
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:23.599
but I want to come up and
check it out, man. I think
734
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:28.199
it'd be super fine. But yeah, we meet in the middle and go
735
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:31.360
to Mr Beast place and then head
to I think he's in. I think
736
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:36.599
he's in somewhere between the two of
us. That's not a bad idea.
737
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.639
Yeah, well, we'll talk about
that. But yeah, podcast meet up
738
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.559
on April twenty eight. It's where
you can learn a little bit more podcast
739
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.239
and it's funny because the special like
topic of this episode, I mean of
740
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.719
this podcast meet up, is going
to be videography. So we could talk
741
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:59.800
about anything about video and how to
add video to your podcast and how to
742
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:01.880
you know, you short clips and
how to upload it to Youtube, all
743
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.039
that good stuff as well. As
well, I'm also going to be doing
744
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:14.800
a live podcast from Charlotte Cigar Week
in two weeks, started on the twenty
745
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.840
one. I would be at the
VIP events and interviewing people that have made
746
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:24.519
cigars, that are enthusiast and fishing
Nados and again learning a little bit more
747
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:30.599
about my little little bit more myself, as well as allow my guests to
748
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.199
learn a little bit more from the
guests. I mean loud my audience,
749
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.760
learn a little bit more about the
guests as well. Man, I dude,
750
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.000
I think you know. First of
all, drew, I love that
751
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.159
you're doing the podcast meet up.
Obviously I think that's super dope. And
752
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.119
then the going live from the cigar
place and doing that, I think that
753
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:53.199
is another amazing potential stream of revenue
for creators. It's like that's our talent,
754
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:57.320
man, that's what we do.
We show up and we have conversations
755
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.360
and we create spaces for people,
and so hopefully somebody listen to this will
756
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:06.039
be inspired by that to say how
can I go to a local event or
757
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.920
maybe even travel to an event and
get compensated to sit down and and,
758
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:15.360
you know, talk to people and
really promote the event through a live stream?
759
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.039
I think that's a really innovative thing
that you're doing, so I really
760
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:21.679
appreciate you sharing that as well.
So awesome, drew. Well, man,
761
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.199
I appreciate your bro High Five from
a long day, really long distance
762
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:29.599
right now. Will be closer sooner
and be able to maybe connect and hang
763
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.559
out and do all this fun things. So I really appreciate your man.
764
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:36.400
Thank you really thank you so much
for having me on your at your show.
765
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.519
Is Amazing. I can't believe you're
doing a daily show. Extremely Great
766
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:45.440
and generous with your time, and
thanks for everybody WHO's listening and can here
767
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.519
to sound my voice and, as
always, love, peace, chicken grease,
768
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:52.880
love it, man. All right, there you go. That is
769
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.199
my friend, drew mild and please
go follow him. Drew versus the world
770
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.079
everywhere. That drew versus the world
that you can find it. He'll be
771
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.920
there, so go check him out. And then tomorrow I'm going to be
772
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.239
back here at two PM eastern time
with my friend my coast. I have
773
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.400
a guest co host on Friday's his
name is Sid Meadows and we're going to
774
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:13.440
dive into his world of digital sales
and what that looks like to grow your
775
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.960
business, how to use all this
stuff that we're using, podcasting, live
776
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:20.800
streaming and whatever else that he does. Like he's into a bunch of media
777
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:24.599
stuff and content creation. But how
can it drive business and Grow Your Business?
778
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:28.920
If your business owner or you know
a business owner, please share the
779
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.239
link pretty close to you wherever you're
watching at that. It's there. It's
780
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:36.679
on creating daily somewhere. Grab that
link and share it out and join US
781
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.400
tomorrow. It's gonna be a lot
of fun as we celebrate Friday. It's
782
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.400
Friday, it's Good Friday and and
we're going to be talking about digital sales.
783
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:45.480
So a lot of stuff to celebrate
there. All right, we'll see
784
00:53:45.519 --> 00:54:00.280
you tomorrow. Thanks so much.
