May 16, 2022

Rapid Fire Podcaster Rountable

Rapid Fire Podcaster Rountable

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:05.440 Now here's something we all can really like. You're listening to creating daily, 2 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:08.720 Yeah, with the number one live streaming show that I'm the host of. 3 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:17.079 Speaks to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. Streaming, what 4 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:21.440 is going on everyone out there in the Internet world, in the Web world, 5 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:24.199 where where we're at on my web to web three, web one, 6 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:28.079 whatever web you're stuck in. Really appreciate you joining us. This is creating 7 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.359 daily. I'm your host, Billy Thorpe, and this is a show where 8 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:34.399 we inspire you. We're trying to inspire you as a creator to push that 9 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.320 record button, hit that live stream button, whatever it is, podcasting, 10 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:40.679 live streaming, write your book, Do Your Nft Project, whatever. We 11 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.560 have guests of all kinds on the show and actually yesterday I had a guess 12 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:49.119 that had a conflict with his schedule kind of last minute, and so we 13 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:54.640 change up today's show and we're actually going to be doing a rapid fire podcaster 14 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:58.000 around table. So I'm going to be joined by my friends and meadows here 15 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.679 in a minute and some other people that are stacking up here in club. 16 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.799 Ask of my friend Raphael and Michael Get ready to come on here. In 17 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.959 a minute as well, and if I could figure out how to get Webb 18 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:10.719 listening activated on my computer, I can maybe share the screen with you. 19 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:12.200 I don't know, I'm going to figure all that out in the background because 20 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:17.719 it didn't work the way I thought it was. But I'm super excited to 21 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.920 get this episode rolling and to do that I'm going to bring on my guest, 22 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.640 my guest cohost for this week, for this day now, this week. 23 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.319 Sorry, said meadows, what's up? said, what's up, billy. 24 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:30.359 Great to be here with you again. This is technically two days in 25 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:34.760 a row. I was here on Friday and yeah, your ratings went through 26 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:37.640 the roof, so I got invited back to be here on Monday. That's 27 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.120 exactly what happened in that order. You know, this is just me manipulating 28 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:45.000 you and to becoming a daily cohost. I'm like, yeah, that person 29 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.840 rescheduled. Said can you cover, and you're like sure, we'll see you 30 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:53.400 what. We'll see what happens on Wednesday and Thursday, but conside I, 31 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:56.519 as you know and everyone else in the world that they watch the show, 32 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.640 I'm in the middle of moving, so I gotta take tomorrow, in Friday, 33 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:04.920 off to put the final touches on some car deals and some cleaning and 34 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.879 moving and all that fun stuff. So I won't be here tomorrow or Friday, 35 00:02:07.919 --> 00:02:12.560 but we'll be here Wednesday and Thursday for and Thursday is going to be 36 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.599 interesting. I got James Hicks coming on and we're going to be talking all 37 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.639 things tech. It's called what the tech so of tech bothers. You feel 38 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:22.560 free to follow the show because we're going to be on Amazon live as well. 39 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.479 So I should be pretty cool awesome. What's on Wednesday? I got 40 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:30.719 been curier fail your podcast. Yeah, let's see if I got podcast. 41 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:35.159 That's awesome. See if I'm depressed or I'm like ready to roll after that. 42 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.879 Who knows? I don't like talking about failure, but we'll see what 43 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:42.719 happens. We lost Raffaelle over in Clubhouse, but hopefully he'll come back in 44 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.520 just a minute. These things were boring. It's all right, whatever. 45 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:49.599 Yeah, everybody jump in a chat near you. Let us know where you're 46 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:53.360 watching from or listening from. And before we get going in this in this 47 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:57.639 creator around table, this podcast around table, we get a little shout out, 48 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:01.879 a little creator highlight, creator highlight, new cooking necessary and the assembly 49 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:08.280 required. It's got to be. Fuck all right. Today's creator highlight is 50 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:13.400 brought to you by our APP, that's own wwll. You can use the 51 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.719 code bet one hundred and five, hundred and three. Just go, just 52 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:20.159 go look in the show notes. It's out there for early access and a 53 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.719 ten dollar sign on bonus. So go check that out. If you're an 54 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:27.599 expert looking to give advice and get paid for your time, then jump on 55 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.240 that APP. Apply to be an expert. Or if you need advice, 56 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:35.360 go over there and find out someone who can give you that advice for a 57 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.599 little bit of money. So really cool platform. said, I don't or 58 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:39.719 you still want? You still have you? Did you sign up? I 59 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.960 know the last time I ask you this question you said I got to do 60 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:49.280 it today. Did you do it that day? I'm going to plead the 61 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.159 fifth of Ouay, yeah, I can. Jason, if you're listening, 62 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:59.439 I'm sorry. I bailed on my commitment to be on our end of April. 63 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.479 I totally blew it, but I will get on this month. So 64 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:10.360 just trying to work out some scheduling stuff and new clients and on boarding and 65 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.719 all kinds of nonsense. So but I am. I I am going to 66 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.959 get on an active on that platform very soon. All right, sounds good. 67 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.680 Well, I will jump to our creator highlight real quick. We all 68 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:24.560 know producer Jimmy. It seems like I'm shouting out a lot of podcast that 69 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.560 she's a part of over the last couple months, but she's a podcast producer 70 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.920 launching all kinds of them. But this one, said, she didn't launch, 71 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:35.680 she kind of rebranded, relaunched, I guess, and it's now formally 72 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:40.600 business in the bedroom podcast where I think she's talking about, you know, 73 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:46.040 basically running a business from your bedroom to now podcasting your brand, where she's 74 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:50.319 on a mission to help you launch and build your brand through the power of 75 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:55.639 podcasting. So she just debuted this new rebrand today. It looks like she's 76 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:59.120 about some episodes today. So if you haven't checked it out, go over 77 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.720 to your favorite podcast player and check that out. So good job, producer 78 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:06.920 Jimmy. WHOO, where's my applause? There we go. All right, 79 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.560 all right, got you got your applause there. So today is said we're 80 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:14.439 going to do a little something different. We're going to do a little round 81 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.800 table. We got Michael on the stage over here in clubhouse what's up, 82 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:19.600 Michael? How's it going? My Man Billy, good to see you. 83 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:23.240 Good to see you to sit everybody in the audience a loose. Good to 84 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.800 see man. Well, I'm excited that you're joining us. And so what 85 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.720 we're going to do, and this the three of us, and if anybody, 86 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.120 John Philippe, Brian, anybody in the audience, wants to come up 87 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:36.399 and be a part of this, it's on clubhouse or if you're over on 88 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:43.279 wherever, bullhorn or ritual motion, feel free to jump in as well. 89 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:46.120 You can either call in on Bull Horn, you can or chat, or 90 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:51.839 you can chat or come up on the stage over on guild and what's up 91 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.160 near? See me in the chat. I see you're right. My friend 92 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:59.639 Kevin Hide says it's from Roley, North Carolina, Durham, North Carolina. 93 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:00.639 A lot of we kill a lot of people in here, Kansas City. 94 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.120 Michaels from Kansas City. All right, sounds good, but so how we're 95 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.560 going to run this round table? As I said, it's rapid fire, 96 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.560 so we got to keep it rapid fire. said, I know it's podcasters, 97 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:14.920 we get long winded, but I'm here to like you're doing right now, 98 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.839 rally the circus. This is my show. What are you talking about? 99 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:20.439 Talk for forty footnom skidding. The people love me, said they'll wait. 100 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.360 What's not to love, buddy? What's not to love? So, 101 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.399 yeah, exactly, exactly. So what we're gonna do is either sit or 102 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:31.720 I am going to ask a question, and it's really in the podcasting the 103 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.839 world, but it could be, you know, content creation in general, 104 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:39.000 and then whoever wants to answer the question, or maybe one of us will 105 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:41.920 want to answer the question. I got a thirty second timer and at the 106 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:45.920 end of the thirty seconds to're going to hear this sound, and that doesn't 107 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:48.879 mean punch the person next to you, because that is a boxing ring sound. 108 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.920 It just means hey, your time is up. And then if sid 109 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:57.319 or I, since we are comderating cohosting the show, have additional follow up 110 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:00.439 questions, we will will inquire. So little bit of a power move here, 111 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.480 I feel like. Obviously, yeah, I like taking control, man 112 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:08.399 in a big way. Lusten, I would here like some kind of fun 113 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.759 round table, not an ego trip. What did I come into? Me? 114 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.519 But wait a minute, rap what you want all the time. Now, 115 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:17.279 wait a minute, I need to know where rap is because I can't 116 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:23.199 see Rath. I can't see now he's in the audience. I know he's 117 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:27.639 on the stage. Run the house. Oh my my screen is not automatically 118 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:32.360 refreshing. Apperson thing. Oh yeah, we're on video. I'll up with 119 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:38.120 the link up here somewhere. Horn in today we're a bull horn. We're 120 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:42.160 on guild run, Youtube, facebook and all those places, everywhere. I 121 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:45.560 just restreamed out break all the rules. Maybe that's a question we ask and 122 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.560 you guys can chastise me. So what's interesting is my clubhouse screen is not 123 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:54.519 refreshing automatically. I'm having to PTR. I didn't know rapid come back so 124 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:59.000 interesting. I just heard his voice. So all right. So let's get 125 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:03.680 this round table started, and it is all about podcasting. Some curious round 126 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:09.279 table lers. That's on the round table so far. What is a podcast? 127 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.240 Who wants to go first? Come off Mike and Begin, and I 128 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:18.040 will hit the timer. Nobody. Well, all right, I'm looking at 129 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:24.319 my clock here to this thirty second mark and go. PODCAST is a series 130 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:30.519 of episodes of content that people can load into their favorite player of some sort 131 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:35.120 and it is usually auto fed to them on whatever schedule you want so that 132 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.480 they can consume your content, and usually it's been audio, but video is 133 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.080 becoming a bigger thing and I still have twelve seconds to go, so I'm 134 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:45.759 going to keep saying that. You know, there's all sorts of platforms that 135 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:50.639 include podcasts and some have videos, some don't, but ultimately it'll be an 136 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:54.440 RSS feed by booom. Oh, look at that, right in on the 137 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:58.559 timer there. That's told y'all. was watching the clock. All right, 138 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:00.639 I don't know how coherent any of that way is, but at least I 139 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:01.960 got something in. Yeah, well, you know what that's is a good 140 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.919 little and almost like you read it. Yeah, it's like, did you 141 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.519 like Prelok at my questions and have that one prepared a little? Okay, 142 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:13.279 sorry, I'm I am trying to pay on a link here. So if 143 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:16.559 anybody wants to watch the show, there's all the lakes where we're at. 144 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:18.480 All right, Raffia, I'm going to pass the Mike over to you. 145 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:24.519 Man. What is a podcast? Well, just short and simple. In 146 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:31.840 my mind, a podcast is anything that could almost replace a radio show, 147 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.120 but in a much more relaxed format where you don't have to have the same 148 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:39.320 time constraints. That you would on air. That's just, at least what 149 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.399 I would think of as a podcast. But then the video podcast, you 150 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:48.399 just add the video element into it and you have fun that way. All 151 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:50.840 Right, I like your answer because that, you know, I didn't think 152 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.960 about radio having so many restraints until, let's see, somebody said they can't 153 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:00.399 hear Raffael. Huh, could you hear Michael Though, the person speaking before? 154 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.080 I feel let us know the chat there over on facebook or whatever, 155 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.759 because I'm getting the signal through, so we'll see what it's doing. But 156 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:09.919 yeah, I mean, I never thought about that because radio does have a 157 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:13.919 lot of actually weird restraints that I didn't know about. I didn't know that 158 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.039 until John Wiley came on the show was tell me about you know, different 159 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.759 segments have to be like nine minutes and ten s against IA minutes and fifteen 160 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:26.360 seconds or whatever. Is kind of weird. So all right, cool. 161 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.759 So Nie says he can hear you, so that's all that matters. Needs 162 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.480 Number One fan of the show as once he can hear it's all it matters. 163 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:35.679 And Nice response to the question was actually quite good too. Yeah, 164 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.279 it was awesome. It's awesome. Said, what do you think of podcast. 165 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:41.440 Oh, knee is okay, go ahead and read it, because that's 166 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.399 a huge comed yes, so it says a from knee. His response to 167 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:50.039 what it's. A podcast is a digital audio file made available on the Internet 168 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.919 for downloading to a PC or mobile device, typically available as a series new 169 00:10:54.960 --> 00:11:00.039 installments of which can be received by subscribers automatically. So very technical but also 170 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:05.279 a really, really great, really great response. All right, all right, 171 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:11.279 said when over in Clubhouse, billy, I think it's Dr Je I 172 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:13.799 think, said a podcast for me is audio on Demn, which is also 173 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.919 pretty much a great, great answer as well. I'm going to I'm going 174 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.600 to change my perspective on this or provide a different perspective on it. I 175 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:30.000 think a podcast is a sales tool. It is part of what I would 176 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:35.600 refer to as a digital sales strategy that allows you to meet your customer where 177 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.919 they are, which is listening to podcasting consuming information, and you have the 178 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:45.919 opportunity to bring them into your business or into your world and at some point 179 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.440 in time, seldom something. So I see it as a critical component of 180 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:56.000 a new sales strategy moving forward. All right, then, that is that. 181 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:58.480 That's quite the definition. Yeah, I don't know I mean, and 182 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.320 I don't think there's a wrong answer, and my answer is anything I can 183 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.600 put on an rss feed, because then it goes out to wherever our SS 184 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.080 feeds go, and that's what a podcast is. So if I'm putting it 185 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.840 on there, then it's going. What's up, Gabriel, got a? 186 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:16.639 I guess I'm gonna Call You guy by because that's how I know you, 187 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.879 but good to see man. Thanks for jumping in the chat and in Brandon 188 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.120 says that Raffael is coming through, but he's just a little bit quiet. 189 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:28.759 So I don't really have control of people's mics outsides of Rof if you got 190 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.360 a little game, maybe bump it a little bit if you don't mind. 191 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.279 All right. So listen, go ahead, but I'm going to be over 192 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.639 to my roadcaster in just a second. Okay, cool, then that's going 193 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.679 to fix everything, all right. So now we know kind of what a 194 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:43.000 podcast is, kind of not. Doesn't really matter. We're not here to 195 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:46.159 answer like you have. Hard set rolls is here kind of having fun as 196 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.799 Podcasters, and if anybody is in the audience on any of these platforms, 197 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:52.320 feel free to chime in however you want. To. If you're on a 198 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:58.080 clubhouse or guild or bullhorn, you can call in or come on the show. 199 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.080 Just let me know in the chat that you want to do that, 200 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:01.919 and then also in Clubhouse, just raise your hand and we can bring you 201 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.480 up. Just make sure you have something the profile because we don't want any 202 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.960 any goofballs up here because we already have enough on the stage. So we 203 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:11.440 don't need any more. Do you? And thank you. Waiter there. 204 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:18.120 Well, all right, let's see here. All right. Now. Next 205 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:24.159 question up is should podcasters be paying more attention to the video? And let's 206 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.840 start with if Michael, if you got some thoughts about this? Let's start 207 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:31.679 with Michael and then work our way back to myself. I'm Huh. The 208 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.759 answer I'm going to give is the answer I don't prefer, and that is 209 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.440 yes, podcaster should pay attention to video because that's kind of where all the 210 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.480 platforms facebook is devoted to video now, with audio included. You know, 211 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.240 videos kind of where things are going, and so if you can do video, 212 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:50.600 I would say take a look at it. If all you can do 213 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.440 is audio, or all you're comfortable with his audio, then stick with that, 214 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.000 but start where you can I'm done. Boom. Love it. Sean 215 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:00.159 savage trying to come up. Let's let him up. Raphael, if you're 216 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.080 if you're ready, we could get your thoughts on this. I know you 217 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.000 got some. He might be hooking up to the road caster. All right, 218 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.679 he's probably he's probably hooking up. So said, what do you think? 219 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:15.960 Man, more video? So Video? I'm actually, I'm actually going 220 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:20.720 to. I'm thinking about this and my answer is going to be no, 221 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:26.440 podcasters should not pay attention to video. Okay, because I think video needs 222 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.840 its own strategy, it needs its own focus in order to get the reach 223 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:37.559 that you want on platforms like Youtube. Now, should podcasters use video? 224 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:43.600 Yes, in marketing their podcast, but just to put the video version of 225 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:48.000 an audio podcast on Youtube and expected to perform? It's not going to. 226 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:52.279 You'RE gonna have to have a completely separate strategy. So so I would define 227 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:58.039 perform. That's that's always my question when this comes up about, you know, 228 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.000 especially with Youtube, because people are like, Oh yeah, don't, 229 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.120 don't, put your video and eat now. I agree that you probably shouldn't 230 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:09.679 just put a static image of your thumbnail with video, you know, with 231 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:11.399 audio. I mean, I'm not, I'm not for that, because I 232 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.960 just something that does I mean, but whatever, like, if that's your 233 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:18.440 resource, maybe you should. But for us in our podcast we grew like 234 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:24.559 crazy on youtube first and then people went over to audio when they found that 235 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:28.120 way, an audio podcast, because I guess it was more convenient or maybe 236 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.120 just not that attractive, I'm not really sure. So we actually saw kind 237 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:35.480 of the opposite and I would not say I would even say this show creating 238 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.120 daily the video aspect is not really built for Youtube. Like I would not 239 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.720 say this is a good youtube show or some or content for Youtube. Maybe 240 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:48.000 I'm wrong about that, but and I'm just waiting for Rawfe' all to pop 241 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.679 back in here any moment and Shawn's up on these Kay. So worthing, 242 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:54.240 Mike, go Michael. Yeah, I was just going to say that. 243 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:58.200 You know, if video will add value to your audience and to your content, 244 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.960 then pursue it. If it's just, well, I'll turn on a 245 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:06.879 camera and record everything while I'm talking. Is that a value add think about 246 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:11.679 what value is added by video and if there's none, then stick with audio. 247 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.360 Yeah, man, I'll like that. I might have a slightly different 248 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:21.320 opinion. I know this is shocking, Rafael opinion. No, I know, 249 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:25.720 like just unbelievable here, but I think actually, in this day and 250 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:29.279 age, if you're not doing video with your podcast, you're wasting a lot 251 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:34.360 of time and a lot of effort that could easily be used towards a very 252 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:41.720 powerful tool just because you're even though video editing for most people, or for 253 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:47.960 a lot of people coming from audio, isn't necessarily like your first kind of 254 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.399 like. It's not necessarily, how do I say, the most natural, 255 00:16:53.120 --> 00:17:00.320 but once you get into the video editing mindset and also the the software, 256 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:04.559 then you can actually do all of your editing at one time. It's not 257 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:10.880 anything extra beyond what you normally would be doing, maybe just some different buttons 258 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:15.720 and some different plugins, although the you do actually have a lot of similar 259 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:21.880 pluckins that are available across various applications, especially if you're on MAC or if 260 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:29.759 you're using adobe's software suite. Within those two different sets, you do have 261 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.519 a lot of flexibility, especially once you get into the video editing software. 262 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.400 It's really a shame almost if you're not recording that at the same time. 263 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:44.200 Granted, you do have to be a little bit more aware. Thirty sex 264 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:49.960 to feel remember thirty seconds. Ah, fuck you, there's my beet, 265 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:59.400 but Um, well, flip you my gold you of action right there. 266 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:02.400 All right, will so, yeah, a lot of thoughts there. Like 267 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.720 five seconds were off. Finish this thing up. No, just the only 268 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.759 thing I was going to say. If you guys are doing a live stream, 269 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.880 I can definitely hop on the video just if you send me a link 270 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:15.119 on instagram or something. Well, I would do that, but I'm working 271 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.400 on some stuff behind scenes here. One I'm making sids face go up and 272 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.480 down like crazy, but more video lasting on bull hard. This is fun. 273 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.960 He's just kind of zooming in and out randomly. It's for video. 274 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:29.440 Might not be my best option right now because I'm actually trying to get the 275 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:33.720 video of clubhouse up because the the plane I had didn't work. But you 276 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:36.839 guys are helping me out. You're keeping the content flowing. Sins Man, 277 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:40.480 so, Sid, I'm move my phone. If you'll manage clubhouse, that 278 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:44.519 would be awesome. While we're going this topic, though, let's go to 279 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.559 Sean. Shown be able to UNMIKE and give us your thoughts about video and 280 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:51.960 podcasting. Absolutely have a lot to say. Just to let everyone know, 281 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.799 I am a recovering goof ball. So I'm working, working on that. 282 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.160 For me, may seconds go for me. I'm a little biased, obviously. 283 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:07.000 I think podcasting is radio. With video that intimacies lost. I think 284 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:12.640 consumption is limited. People can be walking their dog and doing other things and 285 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:18.160 just listen and be more attentive. Theater of the mind is lost with video. 286 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.160 I think it distracts and when you think of creating a soundscape and sound 287 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.279 effects, it can't happen in the same way with video, I think, 288 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:32.319 and as easily so. For somebody starting up their podcast wanting to just connect, 289 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:37.920 it's way easier to not do video. All right. So, and 290 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:42.440 I have followed question here, did I hear you correctly say that podcasting is 291 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:51.279 radio and your mind absolutely to do it well, absolutely, because you're connecting 292 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.720 with an audience that is not interacting with you right away. Obviously in radio 293 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.599 you can take phone calls and that sort of thing, but it's theater of 294 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.200 the mind, learning how to communicate, putting yourself out there and then waiting 295 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:08.759 for a response through text or emails whatever. When you throw your podcast your 296 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:15.279 R ass has feed up there. People consume it passively? Sure they do. 297 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:18.319 That's great, it's great point. I really appreciate you sharing the explanation. 298 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.119 Billy is trying his best to get the screen set up over here. 299 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.039 I'm done all wrong, but yeah, I love you guys. Keep talking. 300 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.480 You're doing so see, see, billy, if you just went audio, 301 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.599 you'd be right in the conversation. You wouldn't be scrambling. Yeah, 302 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.039 move around. Yeah, you know that. That is a good point because, 303 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:38.160 like, I've pro used videos for I've produced videos for a couple of 304 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:41.359 decades as well. I mean I'm not just an audio engineer. I've proved 305 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.920 thousands of hours of videos and you know, like, the lift to add 306 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.119 video is a big one. It really is, because there's so much to 307 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:56.480 take into consideration, with bandwidth and resolution and lighting and lenses and on all 308 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.319 those things. And you know, if you want to dip your tone water, 309 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.279 fine, but realize that it's there's a lot more to video than there 310 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.200 is to just audio. I guess I'll just leave it there now. It's 311 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.920 a really, really right point. Go ahead, raft or so on. 312 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:15.119 Go ahead. Yeah, I'm just going to respond to Raphael. He obviously 313 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.599 had a type of there. He's talking about intimacy and as opposed to infancy, 314 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.400 and he was just saying that it can be intensified with video. I 315 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.599 do agree with that. But when you think of theater of the mind again, 316 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:33.000 if you have a picture of an apple on your video screen and then 317 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.920 you have somebody imagine an apple, it'll be the color of the Apple. 318 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:41.319 The connection with the apple be better. Obviously we know what theater of the 319 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:45.480 mind is, but I think it's more about the passive consumption rap like if 320 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:49.359 somebody's trying to walk their dog outside or something and they're looking at a video, 321 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:53.400 they're not paying attention what's going around them. But and not everyone's walking 322 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:56.319 their dog, obviously. But you know, that's the thing, though, 323 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:02.240 with video podcasting, you can have that option to just passively listen to it 324 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:08.079 as audio only, or you can choose to view the picture that the artist 325 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:12.119 has painted for you. That's one thing that you that you can miss. 326 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.680 Yeah, and I will agree that there's something to be said for theater of 327 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:19.200 the mind, but at the same time I do think it is a little 328 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:23.839 overrated. Sometimes. There are those times when it's nice to know what a 329 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:29.119 person actually looks like when their mouth is moving and not just think of a 330 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:32.599 photo of the person. I think it adds a whole lot more to the 331 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:36.720 human experience. I just got to say I feel like I'm on ESPN the 332 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:41.000 jump with the bells. I love it. I love it and you know, 333 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.200 there is there is something to be said for the visual you know, 334 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:48.519 like I've listened to the this weekend tech podcast forever and they have video and 335 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.599 and I will load the video podcast version and mostly listen to the audio unless 336 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.519 they say, well, now we've got this thing on the screen, we're 337 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.519 showing this website or whatever, I'll pull my phone out and look at it 338 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.519 and then when that's over with, I'll go back to just listening to the 339 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.440 audio again. So I guess if that's a value add you can give to 340 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:06.680 your audience and great. Yeah, and I think you know. And what'll 341 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:08.240 kind of a wrap. I'll say what I got to say and then we're 342 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.240 going to pass it to jazz for one more thought on this subject and that 343 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.640 will move to the next question because we're going to keep this rapid fire. 344 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.680 But one thing that I do think it is, you know, I how 345 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:25.920 does because there's probably more people that are checking out my audio, even with 346 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:30.240 this show, more audio than video, but I would call myself a video 347 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:36.559 first production because I personally like love video. I enjoy the process of video 348 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:38.920 and maybe one day that will, you know, flip or whatever. But 349 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.400 I do think, to Michael's point, you do have this another opportunity to 350 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:47.880 connect with people and as a consumer, I love to watch video. I 351 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:52.720 even I love to watch video podcast in just because I think the facial expressions, 352 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.240 the corkiness of the host or the guest or you know, like I 353 00:23:56.240 --> 00:24:00.640 think there's a lot more story and a lot more like mystery when I'm watching 354 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:06.000 somebody on screen versus just hearing their inflections and their voice. So that's just 355 00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:08.920 me as a consumer, though, but I want to pass the mic down. 356 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:14.519 I don't know if Rafael is just my biggest fan clapping on clubhouse, 357 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:17.440 or if you have something to say. No, never a fan, but 358 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:23.119 definitely, you know, wrap and knee. Yeah, rapin knee, or 359 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:29.039 like in a race for billy's favorite troll. That's what's really happening here and 360 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.559 he had to leave us. But go ahead, jazz, introduce yourself and 361 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:37.480 welcome up hey belly. Thank you so much for having me me in this 362 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.759 room. I am got the notification the guys were talking, had to jump 363 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:45.240 in and it was perfect because you're talking about video. So I am a 364 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:49.839 podcast producer and I have five shows running right now and I have conversations with 365 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:55.680 people sometimes that want to and this out their words. They want to start 366 00:24:55.799 --> 00:25:03.000 a podcast and they want to only do video. So Youtube or facebook live 367 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:06.880 or something like that. Or other conversations I had with people to say, 368 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:10.039 Oh, check out my podcast and I go to look for in apple or 369 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:12.039 spotify, it's not there and they say, oh no, you got to 370 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:18.400 go to my youtube. So my question is, is a person who only 371 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:26.200 does a conversation via video really a podcaster? Oh my gosh, yes, 372 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.880 it's just hosted in a different way. That's the only thing. Tokay. 373 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:36.319 But from its to just let you know quickly, jazz, spotify does video 374 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.319 now. So any of those customers, people you're dealing with, they can 375 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:45.039 upload their video to spotify now. So, as a consumer, you can 376 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:49.200 just pull up your spotify APP and look at the video. Yep, it's 377 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:53.480 a in the audio will be still distributed to other platforms. Do you know 378 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:59.119 if that's like retroactive? Because I had a couple episodes I did just little 379 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:02.440 short ones. I'll say like two thousand and twenty one that were video and 380 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.480 they would show up on pod being but that was about it. They didn't 381 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.640 show up on spotify. Do you know if that would pull? Now you 382 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.240 would have to upload it directly through anchor. In that case if you want 383 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:17.920 it to show up on spotify. Yep, is that's okay. So I 384 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:21.039 guess the premise of my question and thank you for the one person who said 385 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:26.480 yes. Does everybody agree that that they're still considered podcasting? If if they 386 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.039 don't douse here my thing. This is my stance. If you don't have 387 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:36.039 RSS feed, I feel like the really simple syndication is a defining quality of 388 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:41.200 a podcast. So if not, why are they not consider just youtubers? 389 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.359 I guess that's why I'm getting kind of confused. Yeah, tuber is a 390 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:51.079 very dirty word. Different platation, you know. You Know Jazz. I 391 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.720 think if you ask a hundred different content creators you get a hundred different answers, 392 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:56.200 but but really it is is all content. That's what you know. 393 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.720 People will want to fist find me over. Am I a podcast or a 394 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.799 my youtube or am I live streamer? Am I a video? You know, 395 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.960 it's like you create content, like however you want to put that out 396 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:10.680 to the world, and then if you want to get in the nitty gritty 397 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.960 of like defining that, then I'm with you. I you know, I 398 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:17.680 think if you want to call yourself a podcaster at this very moment, rss 399 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:22.720 feed is, in my opinion, the only thing that really separates all these 400 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.839 different mediums is like that you know podcast, I guess just because it's, 401 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.839 you know, linked top I pod. So if it's not on some kind 402 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.160 of, you know, audio player, I'm like, I don't know, 403 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.440 but I don't really get in the weeds about that. If you want to 404 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:38.279 call it a podcast, called a podcast, if you want to call it 405 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:41.880 a live show, called the live show, you know whatever, whatever you 406 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.319 want to call it, call it just freaking show up and do it and 407 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.440 I think you're I think you're safe. So yeah, I don't know. 408 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.839 I mean people probably argue about that and don't start anything and I'm just like, 409 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:53.640 it's content, dude, just put out content. So, billy, 410 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.920 I just wanted to remind you real quick that this is supposed to be rapid 411 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:02.480 fire is there's been only a thorny s thirty second timer Oh yeah, on 412 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:07.559 everybody, and that includes you. That includes you. So you only get 413 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.960 thirty S. rail the show. De Rail the show, rail the show. 414 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.759 You know what, I'm over here giving the people what they want. 415 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.799 They wanted Rof it Rafael's face on the screen. I'm putting it on the 416 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.480 screen. I'm trying to get it there. So we're kind of here. 417 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.839 We're kind of here. All right, so's rapidly go to the next question 418 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.480 here, and this is really not even a question, but this is just 419 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.839 a tip. Like I want each person, if you would like to, 420 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:36.079 to share one tip to get more listener engagement, and we can start with 421 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:42.119 jazz and work our way back up if you would like. Well, I 422 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:49.000 think one of the biggest engagement tactics that we've seen is when we are on 423 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:56.839 social media, not promoting our show but literally just answering questions about certain topics 424 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.839 and just getting a conversation going, and then when the person who's engaging wants 425 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.079 to know more than we drop them a link, which is kind of a 426 00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:08.480 long process, but it seems to be the most effective for us so far. 427 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:11.799 All right, Sehn, pass the Mike to e man. What do 428 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:17.880 you think community versus audience, and I know billy, you've said this before. 429 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.759 Know the difference between those two words. Audience, I speak, you 430 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:26.359 listen, community, they talk to each other. Create a community or create 431 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.559 an audience first, and then shifted to community, you get engagement and you'll 432 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:36.480 get more listeners or viewers. All right, content consumers. All right, 433 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:37.960 follow up question for you, Sean, since you said created a community. 434 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.799 I love this answer. By the way. I think it's way harder than 435 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.920 we think it is, but we're where do you create this community? And 436 00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:51.720 that's the key thing. There is no one answer or one size fits all. 437 00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:56.599 So what I would be doing is find out where your decide where you 438 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.640 want to put your energy and whether it's facebook or instagram or twitter, pick 439 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.960 one and then do that. And then the other thing is get help. 440 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.680 You can't do this alone if you're doing the podcast and doing the technical stuff. 441 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.160 I mean it's a lot of work to do the social stuff too, 442 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.480 and if you can offload that busy work, get someone to help you or 443 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.720 some software something to make that happen. But I would pick one of them, 444 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:23.960 the social media, focus your attention on that and see which one has 445 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:29.400 more traction, because if you're spreading yourself too thin, you're not going to 446 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.599 get the return, I don't think. Love it, man, love it, 447 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.079 Michael, over to you, man. What's one thing to get more 448 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:40.799 listener engagement? I'm going to steal a phrase from our friend John Jay Wiley, 449 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.720 and that is always be promoting, so, you know, keep putting 450 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.480 your content out there on social media the audiences that you're trying to reach. 451 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.599 Because, to steal another quote, I think it's from Michael Jordan, you 452 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.599 miss one hundred percent of the shots you don't take. So if you don't 453 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.799 post anything about your content, people aren't going to know about it. If 454 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.359 you do, somebody might see it and you might get another audience member or 455 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:07.599 another client or XYZ awesome, ruffael. Any thoughts? I hear it was 456 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:12.799 way Gretzky. Sorry, thanks, Frankie. Yeah, I would say actually, 457 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:18.440 I would definitely agree with Seawan that community is extremely important, but I 458 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.759 think you have to do a multiprong approach and one of the prongs that I 459 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.680 really like to focus on with my personal projects as well as the the projects 460 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:33.000 that I do with my clients. Seo extremely powerful to all right, that's 461 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.400 a good I think that's a huge one. I think it's a huge one. 462 00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.839 Said, what about you in my man where you build next scene? 463 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.480 No, I'm going to kind of tag onto little bit of the social media, 464 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:47.160 but in made different perspective. Video, short form video, whether it's 465 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:51.960 an instagram live, I facebook live, a real I think embracing short form 466 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.240 video with your guests or talking about the episode. That kit three, the 467 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.160 three key takeaways from the episode. I think that has so much reach, 468 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:06.240 especially in the vertical format that instagram real ticktock type videos have such a big 469 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:10.440 reach. I think it's a great way to create more engagement with with your 470 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.240 community. Awesome and love that answer. And I would say start a live 471 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.279 stream. Look at us, you guys are so engaged. People fight up 472 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.839 in the chats, love it and know so might be a good strategy for 473 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.400 somebody, if you like that. Speaking of video, if you like video, 474 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.799 all right, we're going to keep this thing rapidly. Moving on here 475 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:36.680 does her podcasts? Name need to match your subject perfectly and we could start 476 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.559 at the bottom of jets and work our way up again. Food controversial here, 477 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.680 right. The you mean you're picking you, you're asking questions, billy, 478 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:45.200 that could be a whole club Tom by themselves. Hey, you know 479 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.119 what, if I remember correctly, said I said, Hey, said, 480 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.359 let's pick one of these things out of this list to talk about, and 481 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:53.799 you're like now, let's talk about them all in like all right, Oh 482 00:32:54.079 --> 00:33:00.000 dude, that is such a lie. That that that's not I'm gonna room 483 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:05.519 to get. All right, Jezz you have any thoughts about this? Does 484 00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:09.680 your podcast name need to match your subject or your topic perfectly? Now, 485 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:15.400 when you say podcast name, are you talking about episodes or no, podcasting 486 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.519 overall? What goes on that? You know what goes well. I won't 487 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.400 say on your show artwork, but most people show art work. Right. 488 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:30.599 Okay, so at first I I was going on no, as I've started 489 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:37.839 more and more shows, I tend to get way more specific because it's easier. 490 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.039 Like with the SEO, is easy to be found and people know what 491 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.920 your niche is like right off the bat. So I don't know, I 492 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.640 guess right now I'm fifty on it. I'm inted to seeing what other people 493 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.759 think. I think as a listener. Yes, the more specific the titled 494 00:33:53.799 --> 00:34:00.680 the better for me. Yes, awesome. All right, let's move over 495 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:06.200 to Sean Shan with your thoughts. The one thing I can say is the 496 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.199 a podcast is not a marriage. It's not forever. So you can change 497 00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:12.800 your topics, you can change your names and, I think bringing the listeners 498 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.679 along with you. So first of all, knowing your why, sharing who 499 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:21.960 you are. The podcast is very personal for wherever the host is and you 500 00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:27.000 might just go through the topic and exhaust it and then what do you do? 501 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.199 So I think having the name be generally a role, but not too 502 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:36.000 niche, giving yourself a wiggle room to evolve, to bring the listeners on 503 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.000 to evolve as well. So I don't think it has to be specific. 504 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:43.119 It should be sort of the general area. Or when you get to a 505 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.960 point where, Hey, this bores me now, listeners will hear you being 506 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:50.239 bored with the topic, you can change the name of your shop, of 507 00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.159 your show. The RSS be is still there. Just change the name, 508 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:59.199 throw on some more artwork. People are so following that feed. Should you 509 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.760 change this? Maybe another question I should ask later, but I'll ask you 510 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:06.639 now. When you go to change that name. If it's a different topic 511 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.800 altogether, would you just start a hold new podcast or would you still try 512 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:14.719 to sigher off some of that audience? I would keep the same feed and 513 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:21.719 I've helped some some other people do this because after maybe four or five episodes 514 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.840 the trust is there. So the listeners listening for you and then how you're 515 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:30.800 expressing yourself. So if the common denominator still you, but now you've shifted 516 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.239 to another topic, they're they're trusting you, they're interested, they want to 517 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.199 hear what you have to say. Right, all right. So Sid you 518 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.159 can do that, then you can take your furniture podcasts and turn it to 519 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.239 squirrel hunting like you've been talking about. Yeah, yeah, right, all 520 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.480 right, Michael. What's up? What's what do you think perfectly match the 521 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.480 name or not? I don't know about perfectly match, but I mean I 522 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.960 think listeners should have a sense of what the podcast is about from the name 523 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.679 or if it should, at least give them a teaser to find out more. 524 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.880 Like I love and and and you know, obviously Jemmy's got to do 525 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.440 what she's got to do for her podcast, but I loved the name business 526 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.000 in the bedroom because it's like, Whoa, this could go one of two 527 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.039 ways, so let me find out more about it. And you know, 528 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.000 if you could do something like that, that could really draw people in. 529 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:21.119 That's ideal. All right, awesome, and in. Raffael, I'll let 530 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.480 you jump in here if you want. Yeah, can you just quickly repeat 531 00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:30.639 the question? I understanding like, should your podcast name or your show name 532 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:36.679 match your subject like perfect like pretty close, or perfectly? Okay, sorry, 533 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.360 sorry, yeah, I mean honestly, I think it's a missed opportunity 534 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:44.360 if you don't take advantage of that little bit of space. They're like I 535 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:49.719 was mentioning. Seo can be a very powerful tool, alley, and if 536 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.039 you can have something that describes, at least partially, maybe not perfectly, 537 00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:58.960 what you're doing or that gives people an idea and that relates to maybe the 538 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:04.239 rough area that you're focusing on, I think it's worthwhile if you can. 539 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.320 It doesn't have to, but it's a tool, so you may as well 540 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.599 use it. Love it, love it, love it, love it. 541 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.159 All right, said, what do you think? As much as it pains 542 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.679 me, I'm just going to say get out of what Raff said. I 543 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:21.719 can't believe you agree with Raff I can't have you on your own thoughts. 544 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.639 Man Like stops doing my I can't even compliment it without him pop it back 545 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.880 up. Smart Al Kamark, because I agree we had too much time on 546 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.280 this APP together. Man, that's just what it comes down to. Hey, 547 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.360 graph, sorry, Sidebar, my daughter's in Italy. Man, you're 548 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.280 not, but she's there. Oh, that's awesome. Like to do more 549 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.360 where? Yeah, take this somewhere else. We don't care about it a 550 00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.239 little. This is the Italy show now, man, we're doing sling. 551 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.079 Oh, what kind of your boyfriend? What kind of pizza? You guys 552 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.920 got a rough one. More of those boyfriend jokes in here in the audience. 553 00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:00.159 I got plenty more where that came from. You don't talk you about 554 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:06.079 my my virtual boyfriend, like that. All Right, I thought you guys 555 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.480 were already virtually married. Yeah, okay, this is good. Now let's 556 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:14.039 keep moving on. Let's find another question. This all right, all right, 557 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:15.119 all right. So, first of all, before we find another question, 558 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.599 we've been doing this about forty minutes or so. This is the the 559 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.960 round table, a created around table podcasters, rapid fire, which it's been 560 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.119 everything but rapid, but having a lot of fun. So if you're joining 561 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.679 us in clubhouse and you want to come on the stage and share some of 562 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.159 your thoughts, feel free to do that. If you're joining US on other 563 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.320 platforms, jump in the chat closest to you or if there's a call in 564 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.920 feature, which there is, on Bullhorn, or you can request to come 565 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.920 on camera or audio on guild if you're listening over there. So feel free 566 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:46.840 to do that. And the next question up is HMM said, I'm going 567 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:49.960 to eat pick one man we got we got a lot. We're not going 568 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:51.840 to get to them all, so I'm going to let you look through there 569 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:55.440 real quick and pick one. All right, so let's I'm gonna kind of 570 00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.400 go through the list a little differently. So it's I came up with a 571 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.760 list. You can read off the list. How's that? I'm going to 572 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.519 so. So this is an interesting one because I'm a business guy and I 573 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.239 do a lot of business coaching. Let's ask this question, which is, 574 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:16.760 should every business have a podcast? And if you want to answer that, 575 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.239 just flash your MIC. I won't make everyone go, so don't feel the 576 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.480 pressure. All Right, Rathfa'elll, go for it. Oh Yes, absolutely 577 00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:29.480 no doubt about it. Most of my clients are businesses and some of them 578 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:34.480 dominate their space that they're in when it comes to not only podcast search results 579 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:39.519 but also google search results because of their online presence, and what that does 580 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.199 is it allows them to be in the position that they can get contacted by 581 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.639 the people that need to be in contact with them. That can be anywhere 582 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:52.760 from clients to customers, because customer isn't always a client and the client isn't 583 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:59.199 always a customer. But also see it like news organizations and so on, 584 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:04.639 for interviews to be the expert, quote unquote, love it, love it, 585 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:06.880 thanks, get all right, and nothing. It's all. Michael Next, 586 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.559 and then Sean. Yeah, I was just going to say there's only 587 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:15.239 positives and there's really no negatives. So if you can devote the time or 588 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.079 energy or money or whatever to a podcast, and do it, because it's 589 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:23.039 only going to bring rewards. So there you go, all right, Seawan, 590 00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:29.280 of you. So podcast for business do work, but don't make the 591 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:34.800 podcast to infomercial. Don't be selling overtly, because people just turn it off. 592 00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:39.400 What I've seen with people I'm helping is they create a world around them 593 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:45.519 that their product can live in and then their end up being front of mine 594 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.880 when the customer decides that they want to interact with their products. Will build 595 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:55.360 the world around that. Don't just be overt because infomercials don't work as podcast 596 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.199 love him and good for soon. No, I just going to say saw, 597 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.280 that's such a spot on point, right, billy, and I actually 598 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.000 had a call with a real estate brokers from a couple of months ago about 599 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:15.039 podcasting and we talked about them creating a podcast and admittedly the broker was struggling 600 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:20.719 to get his arms around the fact of a why a podcast benefited him. 601 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:25.519 But be not talking about real estate and not talking about his properties. And 602 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:31.880 so I think people have to understand what the strategy is around your podcast and 603 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:37.199 honestly, who should be the voice, because not every business owner should be 604 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.079 a content creator. Maybe they don't have the so you got to really pay 605 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:45.960 attention to who is the voice inside of it. But I do agree. 606 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:50.400 I'm going to say not all. I'm going to say most businesses should have 607 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.000 a podcast, but make sure you know what you're doing and why you're doing 608 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.679 it. Yeah, a hundred percent agree. Go ahead. Shown yeah, 609 00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:00.599 I just want to give you guys a little bit perspective on why I said 610 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:05.280 that and said I have one of the shows I produce here on this radio's 611 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.000 commercial station here in Toronto is a real estate show and it's the number one 612 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.920 broker and Canada. And what he does is he gets on and he brings 613 00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:17.000 people in and he talks about legislation and the market and he doesn't even talk 614 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:22.039 about the fact that he's a real estate broker and he has a company. 615 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.719 So it's more informational and he has become the authority and he's the number one 616 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.159 guy in Canada's far selling. So that's my perspective and that's what we always 617 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:36.920 do with just create that world and give people information on the actual area and 618 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:40.400 then by default, you become the expert. Love Him and yeah, I 619 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:43.239 think that's a part of it, you know, and I think you can 620 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.599 build and I've seen this and said I've shared this with you, and this 621 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.800 is part of like some of our collaboration stuff is you know, I built 622 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.639 a fishing podcast in brand in sponsored it with my business and ended up driving 623 00:42:54.639 --> 00:43:00.360 business to myself because of a fishing podcast, and so it and nothing to 624 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.599 do with anything about the business. I had absolutely zero but it helped me 625 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:08.920 build my community, build my audience, build trust in the community that I 626 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:15.159 was working in, etc. Etc. So I definitely think every business should 627 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.239 look at implementing a podcast in their marketing strategy? One hundred percent. So 628 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.119 that's a good question. I'm glad I wrote it and I said I'm glad 629 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.599 you asked it. So what do we have talk like? One more questionability. 630 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:29.960 Yeah, let's go. Let's keep going for a little bit here. 631 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:38.159 All right. So I kind of like this when Billy quit messing with the 632 00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:45.639 screen. So you're believing what all over that lay be, Michael, you 633 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.239 see what I'm talking about? Him Messing with the screen. I don't know 634 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:50.760 what happened. Okay, here we go, Jill Man, just I'm watching 635 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.840 it. Just got yeah, roll with it. So all right. So 636 00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.920 next question is, do you really need a website your podcast? Flasher, 637 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:07.559 Mike, if you want to respond to that one, go aheads on absolutely. 638 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.719 One hundred percent. Yes, because you control that environment and if any 639 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:16.039 of these social media platforms go down for any reason, you can still have 640 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:22.800 control over your website and I would opt to to always direct people to your 641 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.400 website because you can control it. You can get your mailing list, all 642 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.800 that stuff, and then put all the links to all the other social media 643 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.280 so them people can go and click on the one they want. But you 644 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.159 don't want to be at the behest of all these companies if they just decide 645 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.320 to stop doing whatever they're doing. You still have your website. You can 646 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.920 control that world. All right, Raffael, I think it's all you next, 647 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.039 go for it. Yeah, I would completely agree with everything that Sean 648 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.159 said, but again kind of going back to the same point that I keep 649 00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:59.679 making over and over again. It's another wasted opportunity if you don't have it. 650 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:04.679 You have another opportunity for growth there. You have another opportunity for Seo 651 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:09.519 to get onto Google in another way, again talking about dominating the search results. 652 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:15.599 It's a fantastic tool that you can give yourself that, in depending on 653 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:21.000 your host and how you're doing, it can actually be a very minimal cost 654 00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.440 when it comes to some of the services that you will end up paying for 655 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:30.920 as a podcaster. Are you go ahead, jazz, I sell you flash 656 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.719 remark there. Hey. So, yeah, I definitely agree that you should 657 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.960 have a website. I think maybe we should distinguish the difference between a pod 658 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:44.360 page and a website, something like a wordpressor you know that you designed on 659 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:49.960 Wis and the free pod page. If you would get from your your podcast 660 00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.920 host some people don't even realize that that's a thing. So, yeah, 661 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.360 I just wanted to know. Maybe we should talk about that a little bit. 662 00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.800 Yeah. So well, first of all, I want to clarify something, 663 00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:05.360 because pod page is actually a company that builds, in five minutes, 664 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.639 podcast websites and I host several of them on pod page. The platforms. 665 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:13.559 I think is pretty awesome. They make it super, super easy for podcasters 666 00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.719 to do that. So fore I've had some amazing results in they make the 667 00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.639 SEO, you know, part of it, really, really simple and then 668 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.360 also then you have every host, like you're saying, that includes a podcast, 669 00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:30.559 you know, website landing page or whatever, player page on there as 670 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.880 well. And, to be honest with you, though, like I get 671 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:37.679 a lot of traction from that front from my podcast host, sounder. What 672 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.880 do you guys? Are you guys seeing that you get traction from those podcast 673 00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.079 provide you know, this podcast host provided pages. I don't even know what 674 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.840 they call the technical term. Go ahead, rough yeah, I was like 675 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.440 deaf eyes on though. Is definitely I do and I think pod page is 676 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.320 just to me. I know it's a brand from a website, but it's 677 00:46:55.360 --> 00:47:00.960 also what I know todd bean calls it a pot page as well. Oh, 678 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.920 I didn't yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. 679 00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.320 Go ahead, Roffael, Europe nixt. Yeah, I was just about to 680 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:10.639 say from my personal experience and then also some of what I've seen, I've 681 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:17.000 had zero results for search from my podcast page. Everything that I get, 682 00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:22.960 like I've hit a number of top results on Google with my website, but 683 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:28.840 maybe I've only seen my my pod, the the the podcast player or podcast 684 00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:34.239 host page itself pop up like once. But the amount of hits that I'm 685 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.719 getting from it, I would say, would probably be close to zero, 686 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:43.320 if not actually zero. Who's your podcast hose platform just gears. I was 687 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.639 originally with what's it called? Red Circle? At least with my personal one, 688 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:52.159 I was with Red Circle and then I switched over to anchor. But 689 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.400 again, for me, like you have to consider, my main focus is 690 00:47:54.440 --> 00:48:00.000 the youtube. So Youtube, if we're talking about that, then I get 691 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:07.199 plenty of hits through search. That's like one of my biggest my biggest ways 692 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.320 that I actually get people to come in love that love. Anybody else on 693 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.679 this question? Go ahead. Shown you have billy. The one of the 694 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:22.920 things with those automatically made templates from your host is they're very limited in the 695 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.719 design and the branding and the actual functionality. So having your own website you 696 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.480 can brand it better, color it better, you can put in more links 697 00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:36.840 and have more interaction with people when they come there, and these template sort 698 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:42.880 of things are very limited in the way you can customize it. So there's 699 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.039 a limitation they're. Having your own website you can do more. Hundred percent 700 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:52.559 agree, billy. I want to have one, but it's pretty too if 701 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.239 you didn't have have to to build your own website for whatever reason, time 702 00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:59.440 cost, don't feel like it. I definitely would say have a pod page 703 00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:04.639 over nothing. And where I see the interaction for some of these podcasts hosts, 704 00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.280 say like a pod beam, where we go live and we have, 705 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.159 you know, live interaction. When you go live on pod beam and somebody's 706 00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:15.039 looking on the pod being APP, it's going to number one tell everyone who's 707 00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.559 on that APP that you're going live along with the you know, twenty other 708 00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.199 people who are alive at the moment. So we've gotten a lot of discovery 709 00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:28.320 from that. And then also people are searching general topics in whatever APP. 710 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:32.880 Your podcast page will come up through that rather than have rather than have thing 711 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:38.000 them come to my www, blah blah blah, having to find me specifically 712 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:42.599 on my website. So I would say if you can't have a website that 713 00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.920 you make on word for us or wicks or whatever, for whatever reason, 714 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:51.199 it least take advantage and put your brand colors on your pod page that you 715 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:55.519 get, most likely for free with your podcast host. Just so name that 716 00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:02.039 you have to drop for for hosting. Blue Host specifically, forward press has 717 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:08.440 some amazing crazy deals when it comes to word press and they're one of the 718 00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:14.639 official hosts according to word press that they actually kind of promote. So that's 719 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:17.559 something. And especially if you combine that with something like a site builder, 720 00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.440 for example Elementar, you can be up and running in a matter of minutes. 721 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:27.119 Not Quite as easy as pod page, but still a very, very 722 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:32.360 fast process and potentially even cheaper than some of those page building sites out there. 723 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.719 Yeah, this is Michael. I want to jump in. I like 724 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.320 everything that everybody has said, but I do want to point out the difference 725 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:44.000 between like a host or a site and the actual domain. I would say 726 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.239 if you can't and at a minimum get a domain Acom a dot me or 727 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.280 whatever, tie it to a link tree, it's for, it's free or 728 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.000 some other similar site like that. But have some sort of domain that you 729 00:50:55.079 --> 00:51:00.039 can give people to direct them to whatever it is you want to share with 730 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.239 them. Hundred percent. I agree with that a hundred percent, Michael. 731 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.920 Thanks for thinking of that. Thanks for bringing it up, because I think 732 00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.599 that is, if nothing else, is killer just for your brain. Like 733 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.199 just give that thing and send it wherever and then you can always change it 734 00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.599 up later. So super good tip and Sid. Yet last thoughts on this 735 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.639 question. Yeah, I while you guys were talking, I mean all great 736 00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.360 points, I actually went out to buzz prout, which is my provider, 737 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:30.559 and looked to my analytics and most forty eight percent of people listen to my 738 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.920 podcast on Apple, but twenty four percent of them listen on an embedded player 739 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.639 that is on my website. So I think a website is important. I 740 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.880 have a said Meadowscom for its last podcast, will take you to the trend 741 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:52.159 report and everything you need is there and to twenty four percent of my listens 742 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.519 come from my website. So I think absolutely it's important. It should be 743 00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:59.960 optimized. Your show notes should be there and we email at this may be 744 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.320 part of the reason why we get because we email it out every Tuesday and 745 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.800 with a link to listen directly on the website, that it doesn't matter what 746 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.480 device you actually have, that you can listen to you. So yes it. 747 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.599 I was going to say, well, why don't you disclose you spend 748 00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.840 ten grand a month and marketing dollars on facenot. He's getting a right. 749 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.400 Yeah, right, wish. Oh Man, this is this has been a 750 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.519 great round table. We could go on for five more days. I get 751 00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.880 a bunch of questions here, but I definitely want to think everyone that came 752 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.400 into the clubhouse room that while shover on bullhorn and guild. Thank you, 753 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:36.639 Rafael, Michael Sean Jazz for jumping up and share. I think this, 754 00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.679 this six person crew here is like a great number for these round table. 755 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:43.800 So I really appreciate you guys being a part of it here on creating daily 756 00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.440 and I'm going to switch back over here to sid so we're finish up. 757 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:51.480 That said, great show man, thank you so much for jumping in when 758 00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.840 my schedule change all of a sudden the last moment and help me put this 759 00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:59.480 episode together. That's what great cohost do, so appreciate your right. I'm 760 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.679 happy to I really enjoyed this, this round table. I think you need 761 00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:06.639 to incorporate this more frequently into your show schedule because I thought it was really 762 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.159 good, great to hear different perspectives and it's honestly, it's really nice to 763 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:13.039 hear other people talk reside you. So I know right, enjoyed. I'll 764 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.280 keeople coming up. I was just thinking that. I was like, man, 765 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.800 I have so much more time to nerd out on the stuff that I 766 00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.440 dumped water on my table, I set up a new scene, I rearranged 767 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.480 my whole desk with phones. I was yeah, and you played around with 768 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:31.280 the screen all fifty three minutes. I know there's try it. There's a 769 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:35.840 way to do that that I just yeah. Anyway, there's a way for 770 00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:37.280 me to do that in the background, so you guys don't see it, 771 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.559 but I, you know whatever. Your add was kicking in my friend and 772 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:45.719 I was like you moved, like you moved one of the images down to 773 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:47.800 the the top line. We're totally in alignment. Say, did I run 774 00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:51.679 and gone? Baby? What am I saying? I'm flying in my parachute, 775 00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:55.920 building my plane and nobody listen. Doing it live there. We go. 776 00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.320 Good luck. Got Tomorrow with the packing in on Friday. Will be 777 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:01.280 back with our show and Friday in a couple of weeks. So, man, 778 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.079 I'm excited a couple wars man, absolutely appreciate you said. Thank you 779 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:08.559 so much, man, and be sure to join me tomorrow. First of 780 00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:10.960 all, if you're in clubhouse follows some of these people on the stage, 781 00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:15.280 if you resonate with them, they are all really great minds when it comes 782 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.760 to content creation. They're all crushing it in their own worlds and their own 783 00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:22.039 spaces and they're on contan there on clubhouse or on all these other platforms, 784 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:27.639 sharing all their knowledge for for free, essentially, unless you go follow them 785 00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.079 on Olapp, which you should and use my code, but make sure you 786 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:35.800 follow somebody on on on one of these platforms. That spoke in this round 787 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.159 table today. It's tomorrow. I'm not going to be here, as I 788 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:43.880 mentioned earlier on in the show, but I will be back Wednesday with Ben 789 00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.519 Curier, someone I also met on Clubhouse, talking about how do you embrace 790 00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:50.880 failure? This is something as a content creator, I think we all face. 791 00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:52.960 Is like, is this failure? Did I fail? How do I 792 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:57.000 embrace it? How do I overcome it. I don't really know where this 793 00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:00.360 conversation is going to go. I struggle with this word a whole lot. 794 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.679 I struggle the word failure. So we will see where it goes. But 795 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:07.119 join us on Wednesday and then Thursday I'm going to be here with James Hicks. 796 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.280 We're actually co hosting a show. We're going to be talking all about 797 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.559 gear. So and we're going to be on live on Amazon. So not 798 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.199 only we're going to talk about it, but we'll have a care cell or 799 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.519 two care cells actually prepared where you can click on any of those products, 800 00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.559 if they make sense for you, and make a purchase. So that is 801 00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.199 it for me. I really appreciate all of you jumping in here to creating 802 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:54.760 daily and we'll see you Wednesday, two PM.