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Now here's something we all can really
like. You're listening to creating daily,
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Yeah, with the number one live
streaming show that I'm the host of.
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Speaks to me. It's like he's
saying what I'm thinking. Streaming, what
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is going on everyone out there in
the Internet world, in the Web world,
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where where we're at on my web
to web three, web one,
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whatever web you're stuck in. Really
appreciate you joining us. This is creating
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daily. I'm your host, Billy
Thorpe, and this is a show where
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we inspire you. We're trying to
inspire you as a creator to push that
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record button, hit that live stream
button, whatever it is, podcasting,
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live streaming, write your book,
Do Your Nft Project, whatever. We
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have guests of all kinds on the
show and actually yesterday I had a guess
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that had a conflict with his schedule
kind of last minute, and so we
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change up today's show and we're actually
going to be doing a rapid fire podcaster
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around table. So I'm going to
be joined by my friends and meadows here
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in a minute and some other people
that are stacking up here in club.
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Ask of my friend Raphael and Michael
Get ready to come on here. In
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a minute as well, and if
I could figure out how to get Webb
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listening activated on my computer, I
can maybe share the screen with you.
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I don't know, I'm going to
figure all that out in the background because
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it didn't work the way I thought
it was. But I'm super excited to
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get this episode rolling and to do
that I'm going to bring on my guest,
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my guest cohost for this week,
for this day now, this week.
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Sorry, said meadows, what's up? said, what's up, billy.
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Great to be here with you again. This is technically two days in
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a row. I was here on
Friday and yeah, your ratings went through
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the roof, so I got invited
back to be here on Monday. That's
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exactly what happened in that order.
You know, this is just me manipulating
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you and to becoming a daily cohost. I'm like, yeah, that person
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rescheduled. Said can you cover,
and you're like sure, we'll see you
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what. We'll see what happens on
Wednesday and Thursday, but conside I,
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as you know and everyone else in
the world that they watch the show,
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I'm in the middle of moving,
so I gotta take tomorrow, in Friday,
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off to put the final touches on
some car deals and some cleaning and
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moving and all that fun stuff.
So I won't be here tomorrow or Friday,
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but we'll be here Wednesday and Thursday
for and Thursday is going to be
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interesting. I got James Hicks coming
on and we're going to be talking all
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things tech. It's called what the
tech so of tech bothers. You feel
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free to follow the show because we're
going to be on Amazon live as well.
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So I should be pretty cool awesome. What's on Wednesday? I got
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been curier fail your podcast. Yeah, let's see if I got podcast.
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That's awesome. See if I'm depressed
or I'm like ready to roll after that.
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Who knows? I don't like talking
about failure, but we'll see what
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happens. We lost Raffaelle over in
Clubhouse, but hopefully he'll come back in
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just a minute. These things were
boring. It's all right, whatever.
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Yeah, everybody jump in a chat
near you. Let us know where you're
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watching from or listening from. And
before we get going in this in this
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creator around table, this podcast around
table, we get a little shout out,
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a little creator highlight, creator highlight, new cooking necessary and the assembly
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know the last time I ask you
this question you said I got to do
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it today. Did you do it
that day? I'm going to plead the
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fifth of Ouay, yeah, I
can. Jason, if you're listening,
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I'm sorry. I bailed on my
commitment to be on our end of April.
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I totally blew it, but I
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get on an active on that platform
very soon. All right, sounds good.
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Well, I will jump to our
creator highlight real quick. We all
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know producer Jimmy. It seems like
I'm shouting out a lot of podcast that
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she's a part of over the last
couple months, but she's a podcast producer
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launching all kinds of them. But
this one, said, she didn't launch,
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she kind of rebranded, relaunched,
I guess, and it's now formally
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business in the bedroom podcast where I
think she's talking about, you know,
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basically running a business from your bedroom
to now podcasting your brand, where she's
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on a mission to help you launch
and build your brand through the power of
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podcasting. So she just debuted this
new rebrand today. It looks like she's
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about some episodes today. So if
you haven't checked it out, go over
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to your favorite podcast player and check
that out. So good job, producer
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Jimmy. WHOO, where's my applause? There we go. All right,
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all right, got you got your
applause there. So today is said we're
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going to do a little something different. We're going to do a little round
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table. We got Michael on the
stage over here in clubhouse what's up,
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Michael? How's it going? My
Man Billy, good to see you.
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Good to see you to sit everybody
in the audience a loose. Good to
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see man. Well, I'm excited
that you're joining us. And so what
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we're going to do, and this
the three of us, and if anybody,
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John Philippe, Brian, anybody in
the audience, wants to come up
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and be a part of this,
it's on clubhouse or if you're over on
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wherever, bullhorn or ritual motion,
feel free to jump in as well.
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You can either call in on Bull
Horn, you can or chat, or
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you can chat or come up on
the stage over on guild and what's up
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near? See me in the chat. I see you're right. My friend
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Kevin Hide says it's from Roley,
North Carolina, Durham, North Carolina.
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A lot of we kill a lot
of people in here, Kansas City.
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Michaels from Kansas City. All right, sounds good, but so how we're
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going to run this round table?
As I said, it's rapid fire,
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so we got to keep it rapid
fire. said, I know it's podcasters,
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we get long winded, but I'm
here to like you're doing right now,
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rally the circus. This is my
show. What are you talking about?
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Talk for forty footnom skidding. The
people love me, said they'll wait.
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What's not to love, buddy?
What's not to love? So,
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yeah, exactly, exactly. So
what we're gonna do is either sit or
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I am going to ask a question, and it's really in the podcasting the
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world, but it could be,
you know, content creation in general,
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and then whoever wants to answer the
question, or maybe one of us will
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want to answer the question. I
got a thirty second timer and at the
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end of the thirty seconds to're going
to hear this sound, and that doesn't
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mean punch the person next to you, because that is a boxing ring sound.
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It just means hey, your time
is up. And then if sid
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or I, since we are comderating
cohosting the show, have additional follow up
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questions, we will will inquire.
So little bit of a power move here,
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I feel like. Obviously, yeah, I like taking control, man
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in a big way. Lusten,
I would here like some kind of fun
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round table, not an ego trip. What did I come into? Me?
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But wait a minute, rap what
you want all the time. Now,
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wait a minute, I need to
know where rap is because I can't
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see Rath. I can't see now
he's in the audience. I know he's
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on the stage. Run the house. Oh my my screen is not automatically
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refreshing. Apperson thing. Oh yeah, we're on video. I'll up with
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the link up here somewhere. Horn
in today we're a bull horn. We're
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on guild run, Youtube, facebook
and all those places, everywhere. I
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just restreamed out break all the rules. Maybe that's a question we ask and
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you guys can chastise me. So
what's interesting is my clubhouse screen is not
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refreshing automatically. I'm having to PTR. I didn't know rapid come back so
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interesting. I just heard his voice. So all right. So let's get
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this round table started, and it
is all about podcasting. Some curious round
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table lers. That's on the round
table so far. What is a podcast?
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Who wants to go first? Come
off Mike and Begin, and I
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will hit the timer. Nobody.
Well, all right, I'm looking at
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my clock here to this thirty second
mark and go. PODCAST is a series
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of episodes of content that people can
load into their favorite player of some sort
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and it is usually auto fed to
them on whatever schedule you want so that
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they can consume your content, and
usually it's been audio, but video is
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becoming a bigger thing and I still
have twelve seconds to go, so I'm
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going to keep saying that. You
know, there's all sorts of platforms that
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include podcasts and some have videos,
some don't, but ultimately it'll be an
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RSS feed by booom. Oh,
look at that, right in on the
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timer there. That's told y'all.
was watching the clock. All right,
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I don't know how coherent any of
that way is, but at least I
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got something in. Yeah, well, you know what that's is a good
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little and almost like you read it. Yeah, it's like, did you
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like Prelok at my questions and have
that one prepared a little? Okay,
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sorry, I'm I am trying to
pay on a link here. So if
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anybody wants to watch the show,
there's all the lakes where we're at.
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All right, Raffia, I'm going
to pass the Mike over to you.
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Man. What is a podcast?
Well, just short and simple. In
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my mind, a podcast is anything
that could almost replace a radio show,
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but in a much more relaxed format
where you don't have to have the same
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time constraints. That you would on
air. That's just, at least what
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I would think of as a podcast. But then the video podcast, you
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just add the video element into it
and you have fun that way. All
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Right, I like your answer because
that, you know, I didn't think
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about radio having so many restraints until, let's see, somebody said they can't
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hear Raffael. Huh, could you
hear Michael Though, the person speaking before?
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I feel let us know the chat
there over on facebook or whatever,
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because I'm getting the signal through,
so we'll see what it's doing. But
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yeah, I mean, I never
thought about that because radio does have a
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lot of actually weird restraints that I
didn't know about. I didn't know that
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until John Wiley came on the show
was tell me about you know, different
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segments have to be like nine minutes
and ten s against IA minutes and fifteen
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seconds or whatever. Is kind of
weird. So all right, cool.
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So Nie says he can hear you, so that's all that matters. Needs
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Number One fan of the show as
once he can hear it's all it matters.
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And Nice response to the question was
actually quite good too. Yeah,
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it was awesome. It's awesome.
Said, what do you think of podcast.
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Oh, knee is okay, go
ahead and read it, because that's
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a huge comed yes, so it
says a from knee. His response to
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what it's. A podcast is a
digital audio file made available on the Internet
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for downloading to a PC or mobile
device, typically available as a series new
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installments of which can be received by
subscribers automatically. So very technical but also
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a really, really great, really
great response. All right, all right,
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said when over in Clubhouse, billy, I think it's Dr Je I
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think, said a podcast for me
is audio on Demn, which is also
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pretty much a great, great answer
as well. I'm going to I'm going
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to change my perspective on this or
provide a different perspective on it. I
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think a podcast is a sales tool. It is part of what I would
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refer to as a digital sales strategy
that allows you to meet your customer where
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they are, which is listening to
podcasting consuming information, and you have the
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opportunity to bring them into your business
or into your world and at some point
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in time, seldom something. So
I see it as a critical component of
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a new sales strategy moving forward.
All right, then, that is that.
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That's quite the definition. Yeah,
I don't know I mean, and
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I don't think there's a wrong answer, and my answer is anything I can
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put on an rss feed, because
then it goes out to wherever our SS
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feeds go, and that's what a
podcast is. So if I'm putting it
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on there, then it's going.
What's up, Gabriel, got a?
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I guess I'm gonna Call You guy
by because that's how I know you,
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but good to see man. Thanks
for jumping in the chat and in Brandon
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says that Raffael is coming through,
but he's just a little bit quiet.
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So I don't really have control of
people's mics outsides of Rof if you got
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a little game, maybe bump it
a little bit if you don't mind.
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All right. So listen, go
ahead, but I'm going to be over
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to my roadcaster in just a second. Okay, cool, then that's going
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to fix everything, all right.
So now we know kind of what a
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podcast is, kind of not.
Doesn't really matter. We're not here to
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answer like you have. Hard set
rolls is here kind of having fun as
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Podcasters, and if anybody is in
the audience on any of these platforms,
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feel free to chime in however you
want. To. If you're on a
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clubhouse or guild or bullhorn, you
can call in or come on the show.
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Just let me know in the chat
that you want to do that,
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and then also in Clubhouse, just
raise your hand and we can bring you
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up. Just make sure you have
something the profile because we don't want any
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any goofballs up here because we already
have enough on the stage. So we
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don't need any more. Do you? And thank you. Waiter there.
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Well, all right, let's see
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question up is should podcasters be paying
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start with if Michael, if you
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with Michael and then work our way
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answer I'm going to give is the
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yes, podcaster should pay attention to
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platforms facebook is devoted to video now, with audio included. You know,
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videos kind of where things are going, and so if you can do video,
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I would say take a look at
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is audio, or all you're comfortable
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but start where you can I'm done. Boom. Love it. Sean
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savage trying to come up. Let's
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if you're ready, we could get
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got some. He might be hooking
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he's probably he's probably hooking up.
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Man, more video? So Video? I'm actually, I'm actually going
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to. I'm thinking about this and
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podcasters should not pay attention to video. Okay, because I think video needs
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its own strategy, it needs its
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that you want on platforms like Youtube. Now, should podcasters use video?
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an audio podcast on Youtube and expected
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perform. That's that's always my question
when this comes up about, you know,
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especially with Youtube, because people are
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audio. I mean, I'm not, I'm not for that, because I
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just something that does I mean,
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resource, maybe you should. But
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crazy on youtube first and then people
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way, an audio podcast, because
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just not that attractive, I'm not
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of the opposite and I would not
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daily the video aspect is not really
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say this is a good youtube show
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I'm wrong about that, but and
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back in here any moment and Shawn's
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Mike, go Michael. Yeah,
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You know, if video will add
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then pursue it. If it's just, well, I'll turn on a
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camera and record everything while I'm talking. Is that a value add think about
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what value is added by video and
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opinion. I know this is shocking, Rafael opinion. No, I know,
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like just unbelievable here, but I
think actually, in this day and
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age, if you're not doing video
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of time and a lot of effort
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powerful tool just because you're even though
video editing for most people, or for
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a lot of people coming from audio, isn't necessarily like your first kind of
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like. It's not necessarily, how
do I say, the most natural,
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but once you get into the video
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then you can actually do all of
your editing at one time. It's not
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anything extra beyond what you normally would
be doing, maybe just some different buttons
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and some different plugins, although the
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pluckins that are available across various applications, especially if you're on MAC or if
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you're using adobe's software suite. Within
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a lot of flexibility, especially once
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It's really a shame almost if you're
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Granted, you do have to be
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to feel remember thirty seconds. Ah, fuck you, there's my beet,
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but Um, well, flip you
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All right, will so, yeah, a lot of thoughts there. Like
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five seconds were off. Finish this
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thing I was going to say.
If you guys are doing a live stream,
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I can definitely hop on the video
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on instagram or something. Well,
I would do that, but I'm working
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on some stuff behind scenes here.
One I'm making sids face go up and
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down like crazy, but more video
lasting on bull hard. This is fun.
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He's just kind of zooming in and
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Might not be my best option right
now because I'm actually trying to get the
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video of clubhouse up because the the
plane I had didn't work. But you
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guys are helping me out. You're
keeping the content flowing. Sins Man,
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so, Sid, I'm move my
phone. If you'll manage clubhouse, that
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would be awesome. While we're going
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Sean. Shown be able to UNMIKE
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podcasting. Absolutely have a lot to
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I am a recovering goof ball.
So I'm working, working on that.
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For me, may seconds go for
me. I'm a little biased, obviously.
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I think podcasting is radio. With
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consumption is limited. People can be
walking their dog and doing other things and
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just listen and be more attentive.
Theater of the mind is lost with video.
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I think it distracts and when you
think of creating a soundscape and sound
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effects, it can't happen in the
same way with video, I think,
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and as easily so. For somebody
starting up their podcast wanting to just connect,
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it's way easier to not do video. All right. So, and
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I have followed question here, did
I hear you correctly say that podcasting is
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radio and your mind absolutely to do
it well, absolutely, because you're connecting
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with an audience that is not interacting
with you right away. Obviously in radio
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you can take phone calls and that
sort of thing, but it's theater of
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the mind, learning how to communicate, putting yourself out there and then waiting
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for a response through text or emails
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R ass has feed up there.
People consume it passively? Sure they do.
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That's great, it's great point.
I really appreciate you sharing the explanation.
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Billy is trying his best to get
the screen set up over here.
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I'm done all wrong, but yeah, I love you guys. Keep talking.
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You're doing so see, see,
billy, if you just went audio,
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you'd be right in the conversation.
You wouldn't be scrambling. Yeah,
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move around. Yeah, you know
that. That is a good point because,
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like, I've pro used videos for
I've produced videos for a couple of
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decades as well. I mean I'm
not just an audio engineer. I've proved
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thousands of hours of videos and you
know, like, the lift to add
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video is a big one. It
really is, because there's so much to
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take into consideration, with bandwidth and
resolution and lighting and lenses and on all
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those things. And you know,
if you want to dip your tone water,
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fine, but realize that it's there's
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is to just audio. I guess
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a really, really right point.
Go ahead, raft or so on.
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Go ahead. Yeah, I'm just
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had a type of there. He's
talking about intimacy and as opposed to infancy,
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and he was just saying that it
can be intensified with video. I
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do agree with that. But when
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if you have a picture of an
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you have somebody imagine an apple,
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The connection with the apple be better. Obviously we know what theater of the
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mind is, but I think it's
more about the passive consumption rap like if
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somebody's trying to walk their dog outside
or something and they're looking at a video,
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they're not paying attention what's going around
them. But and not everyone's walking
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their dog, obviously. But you
know, that's the thing, though,
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with video podcasting, you can have
that option to just passively listen to it
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as audio only, or you can
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has painted for you. That's one
thing that you that you can miss.
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the mind, but at the same
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overrated. Sometimes. There are those
times when it's nice to know what a
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person actually looks like when their mouth
is moving and not just think of a
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photo of the person. I think
it adds a whole lot more to the
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human experience. I just got to
say I feel like I'm on ESPN the
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jump with the bells. I love
it. I love it and you know,
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there is there is something to be
said for the visual you know,
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like I've listened to the this weekend
tech podcast forever and they have video and
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and I will load the video podcast
version and mostly listen to the audio unless
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they say, well, now we've
got this thing on the screen, we're
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showing this website or whatever, I'll
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and then when that's over with,
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audio again. So I guess if
that's a value add you can give to
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your audience and great. Yeah,
and I think you know. And what'll
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kind of a wrap. I'll say
what I got to say and then we're
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going to pass it to jazz for
one more thought on this subject and that
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will move to the next question because
we're going to keep this rapid fire.
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But one thing that I do think
it is, you know, I how
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does because there's probably more people that
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this show, more audio than video, but I would call myself a video
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first production because I personally like love
video. I enjoy the process of video
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and maybe one day that will,
you know, flip or whatever. But
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I do think, to Michael's point, you do have this another opportunity to
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connect with people and as a consumer, I love to watch video. I
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even I love to watch video podcast
in just because I think the facial expressions,
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the corkiness of the host or the
guest or you know, like I
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think there's a lot more story and
a lot more like mystery when I'm watching
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somebody on screen versus just hearing their
inflections and their voice. So that's just
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me as a consumer, though,
but I want to pass the mic down.
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I don't know if Rafael is just
my biggest fan clapping on clubhouse,
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or if you have something to say. No, never a fan, but
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definitely, you know, wrap and
knee. Yeah, rapin knee, or
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like in a race for billy's favorite
troll. That's what's really happening here and
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he had to leave us. But
go ahead, jazz, introduce yourself and
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welcome up hey belly. Thank you
so much for having me me in this
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room. I am got the notification
the guys were talking, had to jump
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in and it was perfect because you're
talking about video. So I am a
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podcast producer and I have five shows
running right now and I have conversations with
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people sometimes that want to and this
out their words. They want to start
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a podcast and they want to only
do video. So Youtube or facebook live
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or something like that. Or other
conversations I had with people to say,
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Oh, check out my podcast and
I go to look for in apple or
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spotify, it's not there and they
say, oh no, you got to
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go to my youtube. So my
question is, is a person who only
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does a conversation via video really a
podcaster? Oh my gosh, yes,
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it's just hosted in a different way. That's the only thing. Tokay.
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But from its to just let you
know quickly, jazz, spotify does video
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now. So any of those customers, people you're dealing with, they can
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upload their video to spotify now.
So, as a consumer, you can
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just pull up your spotify APP and
look at the video. Yep, it's
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a in the audio will be still
distributed to other platforms. Do you know
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if that's like retroactive? Because I
had a couple episodes I did just little
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short ones. I'll say like two
thousand and twenty one that were video and
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they would show up on pod being
but that was about it. They didn't
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show up on spotify. Do you
know if that would pull? Now you
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would have to upload it directly through
anchor. In that case if you want
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it to show up on spotify.
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guess the premise of my question and
thank you for the one person who said
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yes. Does everybody agree that that
they're still considered podcasting? If if they
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don't douse here my thing. This
is my stance. If you don't have
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RSS feed, I feel like the
really simple syndication is a defining quality of
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a podcast. So if not,
why are they not consider just youtubers?
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I guess that's why I'm getting kind
of confused. Yeah, tuber is a
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very dirty word. Different platation,
you know. You Know Jazz. I
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think if you ask a hundred different
content creators you get a hundred different answers,
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but but really it is is all
content. That's what you know.
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People will want to fist find me
over. Am I a podcast or a
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my youtube or am I live streamer? Am I a video? You know,
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it's like you create content, like
however you want to put that out
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to the world, and then if
you want to get in the nitty gritty
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of like defining that, then I'm
with you. I you know, I
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think if you want to call yourself
a podcaster at this very moment, rss
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feed is, in my opinion,
the only thing that really separates all these
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different mediums is like that you know
podcast, I guess just because it's,
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you know, linked top I pod. So if it's not on some kind
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of, you know, audio player, I'm like, I don't know,
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but I don't really get in the
weeds about that. If you want to
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call it a podcast, called a
podcast, if you want to call it
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a live show, called the live
show, you know whatever, whatever you
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want to call it, call it
just freaking show up and do it and
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I think you're I think you're safe. So yeah, I don't know.
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I mean people probably argue about that
and don't start anything and I'm just like,
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it's content, dude, just put
out content. So, billy,
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I just wanted to remind you real
quick that this is supposed to be rapid
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fire is there's been only a thorny
s thirty second timer Oh yeah, on
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everybody, and that includes you.
That includes you. So you only get
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thirty S. rail the show.
De Rail the show, rail the show.
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You know what, I'm over here
giving the people what they want.
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They wanted Rof it Rafael's face on
the screen. I'm putting it on the
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screen. I'm trying to get it
there. So we're kind of here.
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We're kind of here. All right, so's rapidly go to the next question
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here, and this is really not
even a question, but this is just
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a tip. Like I want each
person, if you would like to,
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to share one tip to get more
listener engagement, and we can start with
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jazz and work our way back up
if you would like. Well, I
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think one of the biggest engagement tactics
that we've seen is when we are on
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social media, not promoting our show
but literally just answering questions about certain topics
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and just getting a conversation going,
and then when the person who's engaging wants
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to know more than we drop them
a link, which is kind of a
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long process, but it seems to
be the most effective for us so far.
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All right, Sehn, pass the
Mike to e man. What do
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you think community versus audience, and
I know billy, you've said this before.
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Know the difference between those two words. Audience, I speak, you
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listen, community, they talk to
each other. Create a community or create
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an audience first, and then shifted
to community, you get engagement and you'll
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get more listeners or viewers. All
right, content consumers. All right,
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follow up question for you, Sean, since you said created a community.
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I love this answer. By the
way. I think it's way harder than
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we think it is, but we're
where do you create this community? And
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that's the key thing. There is
no one answer or one size fits all.
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So what I would be doing is
find out where your decide where you
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want to put your energy and whether
it's facebook or instagram or twitter, pick
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one and then do that. And
then the other thing is get help.
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You can't do this alone if you're
doing the podcast and doing the technical stuff.
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I mean it's a lot of work
to do the social stuff too,
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and if you can offload that busy
work, get someone to help you or
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some software something to make that happen. But I would pick one of them,
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the social media, focus your attention
on that and see which one has
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more traction, because if you're spreading
yourself too thin, you're not going to
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get the return, I don't think. Love it, man, love it,
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Michael, over to you, man. What's one thing to get more
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listener engagement? I'm going to steal
a phrase from our friend John Jay Wiley,
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and that is always be promoting,
so, you know, keep putting
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your content out there on social media
the audiences that you're trying to reach.
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Because, to steal another quote,
I think it's from Michael Jordan, you
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miss one hundred percent of the shots
you don't take. So if you don't
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post anything about your content, people
aren't going to know about it. If
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you do, somebody might see it
and you might get another audience member or
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another client or XYZ awesome, ruffael. Any thoughts? I hear it was
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way Gretzky. Sorry, thanks,
Frankie. Yeah, I would say actually,
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I would definitely agree with Seawan that
community is extremely important, but I
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think you have to do a multiprong
approach and one of the prongs that I
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really like to focus on with my
personal projects as well as the the projects
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that I do with my clients.
Seo extremely powerful to all right, that's
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a good I think that's a huge
one. I think it's a huge one.
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Said, what about you in my
man where you build next scene?
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No, I'm going to kind of
tag onto little bit of the social media,
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but in made different perspective. Video, short form video, whether it's
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an instagram live, I facebook live, a real I think embracing short form
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video with your guests or talking about
the episode. That kit three, the
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three key takeaways from the episode.
I think that has so much reach,
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especially in the vertical format that instagram
real ticktock type videos have such a big
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reach. I think it's a great
way to create more engagement with with your
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community. Awesome and love that answer. And I would say start a live
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stream. Look at us, you
guys are so engaged. People fight up
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in the chats, love it and
know so might be a good strategy for
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somebody, if you like that.
Speaking of video, if you like video,
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all right, we're going to keep
this thing rapidly. Moving on here
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does her podcasts? Name need to
match your subject perfectly and we could start
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at the bottom of jets and work
our way up again. Food controversial here,
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right. The you mean you're picking
you, you're asking questions, billy,
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that could be a whole club Tom
by themselves. Hey, you know
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what, if I remember correctly,
said I said, Hey, said,
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let's pick one of these things out
of this list to talk about, and
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you're like now, let's talk about
them all in like all right, Oh
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dude, that is such a lie. That that that's not I'm gonna room
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to get. All right, Jezz
you have any thoughts about this? Does
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your podcast name need to match your
subject or your topic perfectly? Now,
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when you say podcast name, are
you talking about episodes or no, podcasting
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overall? What goes on that?
You know what goes well. I won't
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say on your show artwork, but
most people show art work. Right.
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Okay, so at first I I
was going on no, as I've started
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more and more shows, I tend
to get way more specific because it's easier.
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Like with the SEO, is easy
to be found and people know what
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your niche is like right off the
bat. So I don't know, I
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guess right now I'm fifty on it. I'm inted to seeing what other people
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think. I think as a listener. Yes, the more specific the titled
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the better for me. Yes,
awesome. All right, let's move over
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to Sean Shan with your thoughts.
The one thing I can say is the
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a podcast is not a marriage.
It's not forever. So you can change
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your topics, you can change your
names and, I think bringing the listeners
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along with you. So first of
all, knowing your why, sharing who
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you are. The podcast is very
personal for wherever the host is and you
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might just go through the topic and
exhaust it and then what do you do?
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So I think having the name be
generally a role, but not too
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niche, giving yourself a wiggle room
to evolve, to bring the listeners on
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to evolve as well. So I
don't think it has to be specific.
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It should be sort of the general
area. Or when you get to a
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point where, Hey, this bores
me now, listeners will hear you being
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bored with the topic, you can
change the name of your shop, of
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your show. The RSS be is
still there. Just change the name,
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throw on some more artwork. People
are so following that feed. Should you
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change this? Maybe another question I
should ask later, but I'll ask you
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now. When you go to change
that name. If it's a different topic
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altogether, would you just start a
hold new podcast or would you still try
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to sigher off some of that audience? I would keep the same feed and
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I've helped some some other people do
this because after maybe four or five episodes
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the trust is there. So the
listeners listening for you and then how you're
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expressing yourself. So if the common
denominator still you, but now you've shifted
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to another topic, they're they're trusting
you, they're interested, they want to
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hear what you have to say.
Right, all right. So Sid you
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can do that, then you can
take your furniture podcasts and turn it to
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squirrel hunting like you've been talking about. Yeah, yeah, right, all
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right, Michael. What's up?
What's what do you think perfectly match the
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name or not? I don't know
about perfectly match, but I mean I
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think listeners should have a sense of
what the podcast is about from the name
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or if it should, at least
give them a teaser to find out more.
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Like I love and and and you
know, obviously Jemmy's got to do
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what she's got to do for her
podcast, but I loved the name business
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in the bedroom because it's like,
Whoa, this could go one of two
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ways, so let me find out
more about it. And you know,
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if you could do something like that, that could really draw people in.
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That's ideal. All right, awesome, and in. Raffael, I'll let
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you jump in here if you want. Yeah, can you just quickly repeat
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the question? I understanding like,
should your podcast name or your show name
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match your subject like perfect like pretty
close, or perfectly? Okay, sorry,
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sorry, yeah, I mean honestly, I think it's a missed opportunity
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if you don't take advantage of that
little bit of space. They're like I
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was mentioning. Seo can be a
very powerful tool, alley, and if
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you can have something that describes,
at least partially, maybe not perfectly,
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what you're doing or that gives people
an idea and that relates to maybe the
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rough area that you're focusing on,
I think it's worthwhile if you can.
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It doesn't have to, but it's
a tool, so you may as well
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use it. Love it, love
it, love it, love it.
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All right, said, what do
you think? As much as it pains
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me, I'm just going to say
get out of what Raff said. I
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can't believe you agree with Raff I
can't have you on your own thoughts.
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00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.639
Man Like stops doing my I can't
even compliment it without him pop it back
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up. Smart Al Kamark, because
I agree we had too much time on
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this APP together. Man, that's
just what it comes down to. Hey,
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graph, sorry, Sidebar, my
daughter's in Italy. Man, you're
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not, but she's there. Oh, that's awesome. Like to do more
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where? Yeah, take this somewhere
else. We don't care about it a
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little. This is the Italy show
now, man, we're doing sling.
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Oh, what kind of your boyfriend? What kind of pizza? You guys
552
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.920
got a rough one. More of
those boyfriend jokes in here in the audience.
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I got plenty more where that came
from. You don't talk you about
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my my virtual boyfriend, like that. All Right, I thought you guys
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were already virtually married. Yeah,
okay, this is good. Now let's
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keep moving on. Let's find another
question. This all right, all right,
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all right. So, first of
all, before we find another question,
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we've been doing this about forty minutes
or so. This is the the
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round table, a created around table
podcasters, rapid fire, which it's been
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everything but rapid, but having a
lot of fun. So if you're joining
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us in clubhouse and you want to
come on the stage and share some of
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your thoughts, feel free to do
that. If you're joining US on other
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platforms, jump in the chat closest
to you or if there's a call in
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feature, which there is, on
Bullhorn, or you can request to come
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on camera or audio on guild if
you're listening over there. So feel free
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to do that. And the next
question up is HMM said, I'm going
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to eat pick one man we got
we got a lot. We're not going
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to get to them all, so
I'm going to let you look through there
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real quick and pick one. All
right, so let's I'm gonna kind of
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go through the list a little differently. So it's I came up with a
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list. You can read off the
list. How's that? I'm going to
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so. So this is an interesting
one because I'm a business guy and I
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do a lot of business coaching.
Let's ask this question, which is,
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should every business have a podcast?
And if you want to answer that,
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just flash your MIC. I won't
make everyone go, so don't feel the
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pressure. All Right, Rathfa'elll,
go for it. Oh Yes, absolutely
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no doubt about it. Most of
my clients are businesses and some of them
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dominate their space that they're in when
it comes to not only podcast search results
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but also google search results because of
their online presence, and what that does
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is it allows them to be in
the position that they can get contacted by
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the people that need to be in
contact with them. That can be anywhere
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from clients to customers, because customer
isn't always a client and the client isn't
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always a customer. But also see
it like news organizations and so on,
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for interviews to be the expert,
quote unquote, love it, love it,
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thanks, get all right, and
nothing. It's all. Michael Next,
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and then Sean. Yeah, I
was just going to say there's only
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positives and there's really no negatives.
So if you can devote the time or
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energy or money or whatever to a
podcast, and do it, because it's
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only going to bring rewards. So
there you go, all right, Seawan,
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of you. So podcast for business
do work, but don't make the
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podcast to infomercial. Don't be selling
overtly, because people just turn it off.
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What I've seen with people I'm helping
is they create a world around them
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that their product can live in and
then their end up being front of mine
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when the customer decides that they want
to interact with their products. Will build
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the world around that. Don't just
be overt because infomercials don't work as podcast
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love him and good for soon.
No, I just going to say saw,
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that's such a spot on point,
right, billy, and I actually
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had a call with a real estate
brokers from a couple of months ago about
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podcasting and we talked about them creating
a podcast and admittedly the broker was struggling
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to get his arms around the fact
of a why a podcast benefited him.
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But be not talking about real estate
and not talking about his properties. And
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so I think people have to understand
what the strategy is around your podcast and
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honestly, who should be the voice, because not every business owner should be
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a content creator. Maybe they don't
have the so you got to really pay
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attention to who is the voice inside
of it. But I do agree.
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I'm going to say not all.
I'm going to say most businesses should have
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a podcast, but make sure you
know what you're doing and why you're doing
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it. Yeah, a hundred percent
agree. Go ahead. Shown yeah,
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I just want to give you guys
a little bit perspective on why I said
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that and said I have one of
the shows I produce here on this radio's
611
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commercial station here in Toronto is a
real estate show and it's the number one
612
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broker and Canada. And what he
does is he gets on and he brings
613
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people in and he talks about legislation
and the market and he doesn't even talk
614
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about the fact that he's a real
estate broker and he has a company.
615
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So it's more informational and he has
become the authority and he's the number one
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guy in Canada's far selling. So
that's my perspective and that's what we always
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do with just create that world and
give people information on the actual area and
618
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then by default, you become the
expert. Love Him and yeah, I
619
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think that's a part of it,
you know, and I think you can
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build and I've seen this and said
I've shared this with you, and this
621
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is part of like some of our
collaboration stuff is you know, I built
622
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a fishing podcast in brand in sponsored
it with my business and ended up driving
623
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business to myself because of a fishing
podcast, and so it and nothing to
624
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do with anything about the business.
I had absolutely zero but it helped me
625
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build my community, build my audience, build trust in the community that I
626
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was working in, etc. Etc. So I definitely think every business should
627
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.239
look at implementing a podcast in their
marketing strategy? One hundred percent. So
628
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that's a good question. I'm glad
I wrote it and I said I'm glad
629
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you asked it. So what do
we have talk like? One more questionability.
630
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Yeah, let's go. Let's keep
going for a little bit here.
631
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All right. So I kind of
like this when Billy quit messing with the
632
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screen. So you're believing what all
over that lay be, Michael, you
633
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.239
see what I'm talking about? Him
Messing with the screen. I don't know
634
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what happened. Okay, here we
go, Jill Man, just I'm watching
635
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.840
it. Just got yeah, roll
with it. So all right. So
636
00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.920
next question is, do you really
need a website your podcast? Flasher,
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Mike, if you want to respond
to that one, go aheads on absolutely.
638
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One hundred percent. Yes, because
you control that environment and if any
639
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of these social media platforms go down
for any reason, you can still have
640
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control over your website and I would
opt to to always direct people to your
641
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website because you can control it.
You can get your mailing list, all
642
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that stuff, and then put all
the links to all the other social media
643
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so them people can go and click
on the one they want. But you
644
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don't want to be at the behest
of all these companies if they just decide
645
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to stop doing whatever they're doing.
You still have your website. You can
646
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control that world. All right,
Raffael, I think it's all you next,
647
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go for it. Yeah, I
would completely agree with everything that Sean
648
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said, but again kind of going
back to the same point that I keep
649
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making over and over again. It's
another wasted opportunity if you don't have it.
650
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You have another opportunity for growth there. You have another opportunity for Seo
651
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to get onto Google in another way, again talking about dominating the search results.
652
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:15.599
It's a fantastic tool that you can
give yourself that, in depending on
653
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your host and how you're doing,
it can actually be a very minimal cost
654
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when it comes to some of the
services that you will end up paying for
655
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as a podcaster. Are you go
ahead, jazz, I sell you flash
656
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.719
remark there. Hey. So,
yeah, I definitely agree that you should
657
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have a website. I think maybe
we should distinguish the difference between a pod
658
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page and a website, something like
a wordpressor you know that you designed on
659
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Wis and the free pod page.
If you would get from your your podcast
660
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.920
host some people don't even realize that
that's a thing. So, yeah,
661
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.360
I just wanted to know. Maybe
we should talk about that a little bit.
662
00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.800
Yeah. So well, first of
all, I want to clarify something,
663
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:05.360
because pod page is actually a company
that builds, in five minutes,
664
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.639
podcast websites and I host several of
them on pod page. The platforms.
665
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:13.559
I think is pretty awesome. They
make it super, super easy for podcasters
666
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to do that. So fore I've
had some amazing results in they make the
667
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.639
SEO, you know, part of
it, really, really simple and then
668
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.360
also then you have every host,
like you're saying, that includes a podcast,
669
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you know, website landing page or
whatever, player page on there as
670
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well. And, to be honest
with you, though, like I get
671
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:37.679
a lot of traction from that front
from my podcast host, sounder. What
672
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.880
do you guys? Are you guys
seeing that you get traction from those podcast
673
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.079
provide you know, this podcast host
provided pages. I don't even know what
674
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.840
they call the technical term. Go
ahead, rough yeah, I was like
675
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deaf eyes on though. Is definitely
I do and I think pod page is
676
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just to me. I know it's
a brand from a website, but it's
677
00:46:55.360 --> 00:47:00.960
also what I know todd bean calls
it a pot page as well. Oh,
678
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.920
I didn't yeah, I didn't know
that. I didn't know that.
679
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.320
Go ahead, Roffael, Europe nixt. Yeah, I was just about to
680
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say from my personal experience and then
also some of what I've seen, I've
681
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had zero results for search from my
podcast page. Everything that I get,
682
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like I've hit a number of top
results on Google with my website, but
683
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maybe I've only seen my my pod, the the the podcast player or podcast
684
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host page itself pop up like once. But the amount of hits that I'm
685
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getting from it, I would say, would probably be close to zero,
686
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if not actually zero. Who's your
podcast hose platform just gears. I was
687
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.639
originally with what's it called? Red
Circle? At least with my personal one,
688
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:52.159
I was with Red Circle and then
I switched over to anchor. But
689
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.400
again, for me, like you
have to consider, my main focus is
690
00:47:54.440 --> 00:48:00.000
the youtube. So Youtube, if
we're talking about that, then I get
691
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:07.199
plenty of hits through search. That's
like one of my biggest my biggest ways
692
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.320
that I actually get people to come
in love that love. Anybody else on
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00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.679
this question? Go ahead. Shown
you have billy. The one of the
694
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:22.920
things with those automatically made templates from
your host is they're very limited in the
695
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.719
design and the branding and the actual
functionality. So having your own website you
696
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.480
can brand it better, color it
better, you can put in more links
697
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:36.840
and have more interaction with people when
they come there, and these template sort
698
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:42.880
of things are very limited in the
way you can customize it. So there's
699
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.039
a limitation they're. Having your own
website you can do more. Hundred percent
700
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:52.559
agree, billy. I want to
have one, but it's pretty too if
701
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you didn't have have to to build
your own website for whatever reason, time
702
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:59.440
cost, don't feel like it.
I definitely would say have a pod page
703
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:04.639
over nothing. And where I see
the interaction for some of these podcasts hosts,
704
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.280
say like a pod beam, where
we go live and we have,
705
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.159
you know, live interaction. When
you go live on pod beam and somebody's
706
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:15.039
looking on the pod being APP,
it's going to number one tell everyone who's
707
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.559
on that APP that you're going live
along with the you know, twenty other
708
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.199
people who are alive at the moment. So we've gotten a lot of discovery
709
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:28.320
from that. And then also people
are searching general topics in whatever APP.
710
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:32.880
Your podcast page will come up through
that rather than have rather than have thing
711
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:38.000
them come to my www, blah
blah blah, having to find me specifically
712
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:42.599
on my website. So I would
say if you can't have a website that
713
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.920
you make on word for us or
wicks or whatever, for whatever reason,
714
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:51.199
it least take advantage and put your
brand colors on your pod page that you
715
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:55.519
get, most likely for free with
your podcast host. Just so name that
716
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:02.039
you have to drop for for hosting. Blue Host specifically, forward press has
717
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:08.440
some amazing crazy deals when it comes
to word press and they're one of the
718
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:14.639
official hosts according to word press that
they actually kind of promote. So that's
719
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:17.559
something. And especially if you combine
that with something like a site builder,
720
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.440
for example Elementar, you can be
up and running in a matter of minutes.
721
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Not Quite as easy as pod page, but still a very, very
722
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:32.360
fast process and potentially even cheaper than
some of those page building sites out there.
723
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.719
Yeah, this is Michael. I
want to jump in. I like
724
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.320
everything that everybody has said, but
I do want to point out the difference
725
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:44.000
between like a host or a site
and the actual domain. I would say
726
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.239
if you can't and at a minimum
get a domain Acom a dot me or
727
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.280
whatever, tie it to a link
tree, it's for, it's free or
728
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.000
some other similar site like that.
But have some sort of domain that you
729
00:50:55.079 --> 00:51:00.039
can give people to direct them to
whatever it is you want to share with
730
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.239
them. Hundred percent. I agree
with that a hundred percent, Michael.
731
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.920
Thanks for thinking of that. Thanks
for bringing it up, because I think
732
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.599
that is, if nothing else,
is killer just for your brain. Like
733
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just give that thing and send it
wherever and then you can always change it
734
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.599
up later. So super good tip
and Sid. Yet last thoughts on this
735
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.639
question. Yeah, I while you
guys were talking, I mean all great
736
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.360
points, I actually went out to
buzz prout, which is my provider,
737
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:30.559
and looked to my analytics and most
forty eight percent of people listen to my
738
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.920
podcast on Apple, but twenty four
percent of them listen on an embedded player
739
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.639
that is on my website. So
I think a website is important. I
740
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.880
have a said Meadowscom for its last
podcast, will take you to the trend
741
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:52.159
report and everything you need is there
and to twenty four percent of my listens
742
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.519
come from my website. So I
think absolutely it's important. It should be
743
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optimized. Your show notes should be
there and we email at this may be
744
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.320
part of the reason why we get
because we email it out every Tuesday and
745
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.800
with a link to listen directly on
the website, that it doesn't matter what
746
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.480
device you actually have, that you
can listen to you. So yes it.
747
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.599
I was going to say, well, why don't you disclose you spend
748
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.840
ten grand a month and marketing dollars
on facenot. He's getting a right.
749
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.400
Yeah, right, wish. Oh
Man, this is this has been a
750
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.519
great round table. We could go
on for five more days. I get
751
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.880
a bunch of questions here, but
I definitely want to think everyone that came
752
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.400
into the clubhouse room that while shover
on bullhorn and guild. Thank you,
753
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:36.639
Rafael, Michael Sean Jazz for jumping
up and share. I think this,
754
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.679
this six person crew here is like
a great number for these round table.
755
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:43.800
So I really appreciate you guys being
a part of it here on creating daily
756
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.440
and I'm going to switch back over
here to sid so we're finish up.
757
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:51.480
That said, great show man,
thank you so much for jumping in when
758
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.840
my schedule change all of a sudden
the last moment and help me put this
759
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:59.480
episode together. That's what great cohost
do, so appreciate your right. I'm
760
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.679
happy to I really enjoyed this,
this round table. I think you need
761
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:06.639
to incorporate this more frequently into your
show schedule because I thought it was really
762
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.159
good, great to hear different perspectives
and it's honestly, it's really nice to
763
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:13.039
hear other people talk reside you.
So I know right, enjoyed. I'll
764
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.280
keeople coming up. I was just
thinking that. I was like, man,
765
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.800
I have so much more time to
nerd out on the stuff that I
766
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.440
dumped water on my table, I
set up a new scene, I rearranged
767
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.480
my whole desk with phones. I
was yeah, and you played around with
768
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:31.280
the screen all fifty three minutes.
I know there's try it. There's a
769
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:35.840
way to do that that I just
yeah. Anyway, there's a way for
770
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:37.280
me to do that in the background, so you guys don't see it,
771
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.559
but I, you know whatever.
Your add was kicking in my friend and
772
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:45.719
I was like you moved, like
you moved one of the images down to
773
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:47.800
the the top line. We're totally
in alignment. Say, did I run
774
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:51.679
and gone? Baby? What am
I saying? I'm flying in my parachute,
775
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:55.920
building my plane and nobody listen.
Doing it live there. We go.
776
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.320
Good luck. Got Tomorrow with the
packing in on Friday. Will be
777
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:01.280
back with our show and Friday in
a couple of weeks. So, man,
778
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.079
I'm excited a couple wars man,
absolutely appreciate you said. Thank you
779
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:08.559
so much, man, and be
sure to join me tomorrow. First of
780
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:10.960
all, if you're in clubhouse follows
some of these people on the stage,
781
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:15.280
if you resonate with them, they
are all really great minds when it comes
782
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.760
to content creation. They're all crushing
it in their own worlds and their own
783
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:22.039
spaces and they're on contan there on
clubhouse or on all these other platforms,
784
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:27.639
sharing all their knowledge for for free, essentially, unless you go follow them
785
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.079
on Olapp, which you should and
use my code, but make sure you
786
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:35.800
follow somebody on on on one of
these platforms. That spoke in this round
787
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:38.159
table today. It's tomorrow. I'm
not going to be here, as I
788
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:43.880
mentioned earlier on in the show,
but I will be back Wednesday with Ben
789
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.519
Curier, someone I also met on
Clubhouse, talking about how do you embrace
790
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:50.880
failure? This is something as a
content creator, I think we all face.
791
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:52.960
Is like, is this failure?
Did I fail? How do I
792
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:57.000
embrace it? How do I overcome
it. I don't really know where this
793
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:00.360
conversation is going to go. I
struggle with this word a whole lot.
794
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.679
I struggle the word failure. So
we will see where it goes. But
795
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:07.119
join us on Wednesday and then Thursday
I'm going to be here with James Hicks.
796
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.280
We're actually co hosting a show.
We're going to be talking all about
797
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.559
gear. So and we're going to
be on live on Amazon. So not
798
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.199
only we're going to talk about it, but we'll have a care cell or
799
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.519
two care cells actually prepared where you
can click on any of those products,
800
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.559
if they make sense for you,
and make a purchase. So that is
801
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.199
it for me. I really appreciate
all of you jumping in here to creating
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00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:54.760
daily and we'll see you Wednesday,
two PM.