March 30, 2022

Live Podcasting: Video & Audio - Q&A

Live Podcasting: Video & Audio - Q&A

Don't sleep on the power of live streaming your podcast. Chris Giles and I are here to answer some your questions to help you get your message live and your engagement up!

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:05.280 Here's something we all can really like. You're listening to creating daily. There's 2 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:08.320 something wrong with you. You know that, because you and I are like 3 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:12.039 a mullets. It is the is the business. So he's the front part 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.000 of the haircut and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're 5 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:21.679 hilarious. Speaks to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. All 6 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:25.960 right, what is up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. 7 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:28.879 I'm your host, Billy Thorpe. It's one of you might be surprised 8 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:32.679 to see me today because I cancel the show earlier at two PM, not 9 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:37.640 because of any technical issues and not because my guest build on me or anything 10 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:41.520 like that, but my wife was getting your hair done for six hours. 11 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.960 It looks great, though. I'm not mad. It's not often that she 12 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:47.920 does that, but it was. It's yeah, it was like, oh, 13 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.479 honey, after two hours, like, how's it going? Oh, 14 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:53.399 we're a was there. How's it going? After three hours and I'm like, 15 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:55.759 you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and cancel this thing, but 16 00:00:55.880 --> 00:01:00.560 we're here, we're live and I got a special cohost. Guess with me 17 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.599 tonight, because we're going to be talking about live streaming your podcast, in 18 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.480 live streaming in general. So I thought who better than to bring on then 19 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:12.920 my friend, my good friend, Chris Giles of black time media. What's 20 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:17.000 up, my friend? What's going on? Well, WHOA, Whoa, 21 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.799 don't talk. Are you muted like you know, Billy, how you do 22 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:21.959 to day made? Oh, there we go now, I can hear you. 23 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.159 Not Too much, man. How are you not beat it this guy? 24 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.959 You know what another nothing was going wrong. I just needed something to 25 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.359 go wrong. So I said, like jumping there and like God, something's 26 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:40.120 wrong, you just is that? He said Self. Is that selfdeprecating as 27 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.640 the wrong word, something like that? Yes, but it's at you. 28 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:46.920 Yeah, Mike, wait a second, we're going live and nothing's going wrong 29 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.560 yet. We gotta have something go wrong, all right, so let's go 30 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:52.760 ahead and jump into the scene. Chris and I are going to run this 31 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.719 like a normal show, so we always kick it off with some creator highlights. 32 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.040 New Cooking necessary, new assembly required. It's got to be fun, 33 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.519 all right. So today's creator highlight is brought to you by one sheet pro 34 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.520 so our friends over at one sheet have made this really amazing platform and actually 35 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:15.159 I'm going to jump over here and show it to your really quickly. You 36 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:20.159 can see my on sheep pro if you're watching the video, and it is 37 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:23.879 basically a media kit, press kit, if you will. It's my digital 38 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.960 resume and so they've done a really good job. So you throw away that 39 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.240 old pdf that you're always using. But really cool. It's kind of like 40 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.919 a little microwebsite, if it will. Sir's about. There's appearances, so 41 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.599 you can go check out where I've been, where you've seen me before on 42 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:40.479 other people shows or podcast. I get my own podcast listed on here. 43 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:45.159 Youtube channel is automatically pulled into here, so you can go check out my 44 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.199 youtube videos, live streams, media kit, which includes images. So if 45 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:52.280 you book me on your podcast, you can literally just go to my oneheet 46 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.719 pro and pull all that information. So if your Creator, Oh not to 47 00:02:55.759 --> 00:03:00.599 mention all your links. So your website, your twitter, you're instagram, 48 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:05.680 your Linkedin, your facebook and buy me a coffee is on here as well. 49 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:07.800 So if your Creator and you're looking to get booked on more shows and 50 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.800 you don't want the hassle, and Chris, I know you know this. 51 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:14.800 Of Hey, can you send me your bio? Hey, can you see 52 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:16.400 me your photo. Hey, can you send me this? You send them 53 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:20.520 one link, they get the information, they take it and they run with 54 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.560 it. So this Creator highlights brought you by one sheet, and the Creator 55 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:31.479 highlight today is my friends, my new friends got Lil and Angelik stead Um 56 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:35.599 stood him. I believe I'm saying that right. They created a new daily 57 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.840 show, which I thought was very fascinating, since I just launched a new 58 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:43.039 daily show called the daily drop and it's only available, to my knowledge, 59 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.240 on Linkedin. So they got access to the linkedin audio, which I don't 60 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.840 think, maybe hundreds of people do. And so, Chris, they're over 61 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.639 there rock and roll and I just checked other second episode today. Have you 62 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.560 seen that show? Yeah, you know, got a right. I want 63 00:03:57.560 --> 00:03:59.960 to say I've been of rooms with but yeah, I haven't. Haven't checked 64 00:03:59.960 --> 00:04:01.479 out the show. Yeah, but I gotta. Haven't even checked out podcast 65 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.240 a little linkedin yet. So I'm about to check that out brow. Yeah, 66 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.240 man, they got it. They got some cool stuff over there, 67 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:11.120 man, and Angelique made some sweet little stingers and that kind of thing. 68 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:15.560 So pretty cool. So yeah, awesome, man. Well, dude, 69 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:17.519 I think at the last moment, Chris, I was like, oh no, 70 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.079 I need some news and you said I can do it. So here 71 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:28.079 we go. That's news to me creating daily. All right. So what's 72 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.360 the big news? Chris Bro, bro Bro, the thing I've been watching 73 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:39.319 lately write is you heard a jelly smack? Jelly smack. Yeah, Jelly 74 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.920 smack. You if I've heard of Chris rock smack, but I heard no 75 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:48.560 jelly smack. Oh Man, I've better at it in the shape Yo Jelly 76 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.720 smack. If you ever watch a watch these guys called and some bere on 77 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.959 Youtube all the time. Okay, and so jelly smack is one of their 78 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.160 sponsors and so they always talked about. Basically what they try to do is, 79 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.120 as a creator, usually if you're a youtube or somewhere doing long form 80 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:08.319 content, they essentially set it up where you can send them your content and 81 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:13.160 they will distribute it in other places for you to help you maximize like how 82 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:17.800 to monetize right. But they have essentially raise money, like I forgot, 83 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.959 I was thinking, is a hundred or hundred fifty million dollars that they're going 84 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:29.199 to be buying catalogs of youtubers another content creators. I think I can't remember, 85 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:30.560 one of the other companies did it with Mr Beast and they bought some 86 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.000 of his like the rights to some of his old content. I forgot the 87 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:38.000 one. There was another creator, lady. I mean see the like thirty 88 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:42.360 million dollars or something crazy for a bunch of years like in the yeah, 89 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:44.959 they're like trying to do it like TV right, where they just buy the 90 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.959 rights to all of the old content so that they can like replay it and 91 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:51.720 and get the monetization off of the old content. It's all they replay it 92 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:56.519 on Youtube. Or is it like replayed somewhere else? Yeah, no, 93 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.839 from from everything they've done so far, they're literally just leaving it on you 94 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:04.000 tube and allow we get to keep monetizing, but now they get the back 95 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:06.920 amount of asation. So as a creator, you kind of get this huge 96 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.600 chunk of buddy up front and go yeah, that's cool, you'll get paid 97 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:15.360 back by when Youtube pays you from the old content. And so it's a 98 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:18.800 it's interesting play. I'm not sure how what it's going to look like long 99 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:24.040 term, but there a lot of creators selling their content and that's cold jelly 100 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:29.120 smack. It's jelly smack is one of the companies that's doing. Yeah, 101 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:30.759 what are the companies is doing it. There's a couple other that are. 102 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:34.120 I mean they're spending, I'm talking Bro, hundreds of millions of dollars on 103 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:41.560 this content just to buy people's old content and areas play. Yeah, wow, 104 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.480 and they're going to keep it on Youtube and then the youtube money goes 105 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:47.079 to them. Yeah, essentially they give its sentially like a like an old 106 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.600 school record there, right, they get different. You the money, they're 107 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:54.839 taking the back in and something catches like nobody knows long term, because they're 108 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:58.199 boy the rights to it. So technically they could go put it elsewhere, 109 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.680 but you know, nobody really knows what they're doing. But that just brings 110 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.040 the show you that. I mean, content is the is the key right 111 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.959 now, right. Yeah, man, that's crazy. Do I'm yeah, 112 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:10.199 I'm not heard of that. I'm going to check it out. I don't 113 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:12.720 know that I have enough content to sell. I don't know if it's. 114 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.319 How would you even value that? Right? I mean, Mr Beast, 115 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:19.199 obviously that dude is doing some pretty crazy stuff. Millions of yous already, 116 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:24.399 but yeah, what a lot, what a play man. That is crazy. 117 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.879 All right, glad to see everybody over here on clubhouse. We get 118 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.720 a full out, not a full house, but several not full house and 119 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:33.160 clubhouse, but several people a clubhouse joining us. So appreciate that. Drop 120 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:36.639 where you're listening from in the chat. And then also get my friend Mikey 121 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:41.839 Hayes. He says your wife has great hair. She deserves it. Excited 122 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.839 to tune in to you guys, or with you guys tonight. And the 123 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.839 Monty we were always supporting, says content, content, content, that is 124 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:50.399 the name of the game and that is part of the reason, Chris, 125 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:53.519 why I was like, you know what, I am not going to go 126 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:57.439 today without going live because I want to get this content out there. I 127 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:01.639 want to talk about live streaming in I'm supposed to do a show earlier about 128 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:07.079 overcoming that creative mental block with the with a with another guy, Aaron macado, 129 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.319 which we're going to reschedule. US going to be able twelve. So 130 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:13.560 if you're really interested in that show, it's can be back. But as 131 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.720 I do with Chris and said from time to time, I'm like, Hey, 132 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:18.959 click this link, we're going to go live. So Chris is like 133 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.240 sure, I can go alive and talk about live streaming like that's not Meta 134 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.920 at all. And by the way, this is a Qa as well. 135 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.879 So if you're watching a bullhorn or facebook or youtube or twitch or twitter, 136 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.200 or where else am I? I can't do I'm like seven places right now. 137 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.919 We're in seven different worlds and we're going to see which world loves US 138 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.559 more. Wait, what did you just say to me? Are You ad 139 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:48.240 read it? Can I restream to read it? Maybe somebody in those streams 140 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.679 are read it. I'm not gonna check right now because it will crash my 141 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.440 internet, but I'll check that out. I'll see if we can restream to 142 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.480 read it and let us know where your live stream yet if you are. 143 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:01.320 I personally think they're. There's a lot of benefits to to live streaming, 144 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.399 Chris, and one of my but I guess one of my benefits, and 145 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.440 really why I do it, is one the energy that I feel like you 146 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:15.519 have to bring to live streaming. And then, too, I'm just lazy 147 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.600 and don't want to edit. I mean those are my two reasons. What 148 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.600 at tracts you to and I'm a little addicted. That's why I did it 149 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:24.759 tonight, because I'm like, man, I just want to go alive. 150 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.200 It's fun, it's like playing in a football game or something, but for 151 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.080 you, what's the reason why you love it? That's it. That's the 152 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.519 same thing. Man. I do way better on the fly, like I 153 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:35.600 could just make it up as we go, versus like having a pre think 154 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.200 about your youtube video before you do it as like rough for me and like 155 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.320 but, like you said, that that like in the edit. Now it's 156 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:45.279 like, okay, I'm doing all this content, I need to chop it 157 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:46.240 up and put it somewhere, and so now it's like, crap, I 158 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:48.799 gotta go get somebody to chap it up for me because I don't have the 159 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.879 time to write. Yeah, right, yeah, that makes a pretty good 160 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:54.399 point and I do want to come back to that because, you know, 161 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.120 I think that was one of the things. Until some people raise your hand 162 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.639 or ask some questions in the chat, which maybe we got some stuff going 163 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:03.120 on in there. I'm not really sure. I'll to go check it out. 164 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:07.960 Maybe, Chris, if you can monitor the clubhouse chat, I'll monitor 165 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:11.120 the other chats coming in. But you know, that was one of my 166 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.000 biggest things when I first started going live, and I think it was a 167 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:18.279 mistake, is I would often go alive because I wanted to and then I 168 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.360 would just be like, oh, so, what's up, guys? It's 169 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:26.960 billy over here on Billy Thorpe facebook page and Um, and so I don't 170 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.440 really know. I'm just hanging out, I don't know what to talk about 171 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.080 and I would like lose all this engagement. So I think while it is 172 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:39.000 fun and you can do stuff on the fly, it's really important in people 173 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.399 know this. If you're already a podcast and I'm going to talk about it 174 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.120 from the podcast for perspective. Chris is going to talk about it from live 175 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:50.200 streaming as a creator and then also as a producer. So you kind of 176 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.960 have those two different roles. But Man, I think that's what I struggle 177 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:58.759 with the most was realizing hey, I need a plan, I need a 178 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.559 schedule, I need it to be consistent, I need an outline, I 179 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.200 need some segments, all that kind of stuff. Is that kind of how 180 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:07.720 you approach it for you and your clients as well, like hey, you 181 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:13.120 gotta have this stuff. Yeah, for the it's funny for myself. No, 182 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.720 just because I'm like look, I'm just do whatever, like if people 183 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:18.799 ea going to show up and they're not, we're going to do a thing. 184 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:20.080 But yes, the right way and the way we do it. Clients 185 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.480 as yet definitely like we need to run a show. WHO's talking with what's 186 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.480 coming up, because you want it to seem seamless right, versus like that. 187 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.039 That gets into the style of show, right, because some of the 188 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.440 stuff that I'm going to be getting into, you know soon, or the 189 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.600 different styles of shows, I can do them differently. You know, it's 190 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.000 to be like you said, if it's me by myself, I don't really 191 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.120 care if people are like, oh, that dude, that dudes horrible. 192 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.519 It's because it's me, but I'm would do something with my daughter. It's 193 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.159 like, okay, we got to make sure this production is up because she's 194 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.840 younger. I don't order having to worry about all the negative comments and all 195 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.279 that. So you know, we'll take time to play that out. So 196 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.919 it's, you know, more polished, right. Yeah, yeah, that 197 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:56.799 makes this man in so let's talk about that. Run a show, because 198 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:01.519 I think, you know, I think when your podcast seeing, especially if 199 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:03.960 you're not doing it live, or maybe maybe you're creating video and you're not 200 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:09.279 doing alive, you don't necessarily have to crush it. You don't necessarily have 201 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.279 to disnail it in one shot. I mean you don't have to enlive stream 202 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:16.320 either, like there's plenty of opportunities. I've taken to botch stuff and did 203 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.840 a pretty good job at watching it. But I do think if you want 204 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.360 to be successful, keep people's attention, to keep people engage in the conversation, 205 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.559 it does have to be a run a show. So, men, 206 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:30.279 walk me through like your run a show and it maybe we compare notes here, 207 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.840 because I'm doing a daily live show. I do have a run off 208 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.360 show, but maybe there's something I could tweak and make it better. So 209 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.399 curious now. I mean that's the fun part, right, the daily the 210 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:43.919 daily things to be fun because you get to see what is it working right? 211 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.039 You're like, Oh, if I did this three days and everybody stopped 212 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.039 listening, right, and but that's I mean, the basics, right. 213 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.600 The basics are always going to be making sure you have the Intro, letting 214 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.360 people know who you are, what's going on to what they're listening to, 215 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.799 the outro of. Hey, this is how you follow us, this is 216 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.759 how you come back. What are the keys? That I always make sure 217 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.399 too, especially if you're doing it live. And this is what it is 218 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:05.320 that even just laugh. Man. Honestly, in the pre record right is 219 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.320 reminding people what they're watching. And I know it sounds crazy, right, 220 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:11.600 but if you ever think about it, think about when you watch TV and 221 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.320 you use, you know, back of the day, when used to watch 222 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:16.600 it with commercials, when you come back from the commercial break to put up 223 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:18.960 what show you watch, some of them would like give you a little snip 224 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.159 of where it left off at because they're trying to remind you of what you're 225 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:26.519 watching. And so you got to keep people going hey, to your you 226 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.679 know what, I don't even know how long we're into this right, but 227 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.759 fifteen minutes said hey, just reminded everybody watching both the world creating daily with 228 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.679 Billy Thorpe, Chris Jazz, B Blah, Blah. They go, Oh, 229 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:37.200 yeah, I forgot that what I was or they weren't there in the 230 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.600 beginning. Right, Oh, okay. So, so, okay. This 231 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.279 is interesting because, you know, I've often thought about this because I've been 232 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:48.279 creating more live content. Now we're talking mostly video here, but I've been 233 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.919 created a video on audio. I've been creating a lot of content on clubhouse 234 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.240 via audio, and one of the things I'll say, one of the clubhouse 235 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:01.360 culture things is to reset the room, and it's basically to do that same 236 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:03.720 thing. Like I would be like, oh, hey everyone. By the 237 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.840 way, if you're here in clubhouse with us, welcome to the you know 238 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.720 how to podcast club click that little greenhouse, blah, blah blah. Today 239 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.279 I'm talking with Chris Chiles. We're talking about live streaming, you know, 240 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:18.399 video on audio for your podcast or whatever. So you're saying kind of do 241 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:22.120 that same thing for live streaming, because I haven't been doing that. So 242 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.120 I might take a little note here. No, absolutely right. You know, 243 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.360 I don't even know what the term would be if you'd say resetting the 244 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.840 room, but you can be more like hey, and just in case, 245 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.080 you're just two dead right. If you oh, because you don't think about 246 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.320 how you see it on TV and they're like little luwets, is that you're 247 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.240 not used to it. It's like hey, welcome back to family feud. 248 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.000 Right, yeah, because maybe you came in on a commercial break. You 249 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.840 didn't know it was coming on. So it's like just reminded the people, 250 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:50.360 man, because you know, you you gotta Elie what's See, what you've 251 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.159 liked to do, but you gotta like give them as mini cuss. I 252 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:58.279 didn't say that. All same, Chris, you're never closed another show. 253 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.600 We call my audience dumb one more time. It could be I'm gonna Band 254 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.639 you, but now I understand what you're saying and I guess I'm that way 255 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:07.480 too. Like I'll jump into a live streaming. I'm like, okay, 256 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.480 what is this about? And maybe I should even put it somewhere on the 257 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.639 screen. You know, maybe I should do that, man. I should 258 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.919 put like, Oh, podcasting, you know, live streaming your podcasts or 259 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.679 whatever. That's a pretty good point, man. I'm going to take note 260 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:24.720 to that in it. Maybe adjust it in my presentation or adjusted somewhere on 261 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:26.879 the screen, because I do think that is one of the benefits of live 262 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:31.120 streaming with video is I do have all this real estate where I can display 263 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:37.879 additional information about the show or whatnot. So yeah, man, that's a 264 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.480 good that's a good takeaway. I'm going to I'm going to write that. 265 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:43.360 I'm actually going to write that down right now while we're talking. And then 266 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.120 also I see Sin Meadows asking question over in clubhouse. So what's the goal 267 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.759 of a live show? So that's you. I guess that depends. I 268 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:54.720 mean, I don't what's the goal of your life stuff or some of your 269 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.559 clients. What have you seen that their goals? I've been for that one. 270 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:00.360 Man. I think part of one of the big goals is if you're 271 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:04.240 already because generally you're creating content somewhere, you're doing something somewhere else. That 272 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.399 alive really is for this right now, the fact that we get to say 273 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:15.360 hey, ask a question right now, and it seems it's more interactive versus, 274 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.240 you know, I drop a video on instagram and then their comments and 275 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.000 then I reply to the comments and then you know, but that's a couple 276 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:23.039 hours later and it's like no, right now, what question do you have 277 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:26.600 right now? And now you're building a different type of rapport which are audience 278 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.360 right so to be. That's the best us think about a live shows that 279 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.519 report that you get the Boo. Yeah, man, I love that you 280 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.279 said that, because I do. And I guess on over time, once 281 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.720 you kind of build your community, build your audience, people get used to 282 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.159 your show. Time to get used to you know, you as a creator. 283 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.480 It's similar to podcasting or, you know, just like prerecorded podcast it's 284 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.919 they kind of make you a part of their routine, a part of their 285 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:53.720 daily show. You know, I, like me over here in clubhouse has 286 00:16:53.799 --> 00:17:00.480 literally been on every creating daily clubhouse room since I started the show, like 287 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:04.680 I think this episode ten or whatever, and it's become a part, you 288 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.720 know. He's like, Hey, just become a part of my day. 289 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:10.480 I'm like, I'm I know where I'm sitting at my desk at work and 290 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:12.000 know what task I'm doing and I have an opportunity to listen some im and 291 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:15.720 to time, you know, chime in and engage with you. So, 292 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.440 man, I love that. You said that it's engagement and I think, 293 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.319 I think for me it's it is that it is showing up more often. 294 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.559 It's keeping myself accountable to show up more often, because you know, I'm 295 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:29.640 a little bit of a perfectionist. So if I sit down and go, 296 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:32.880 okay, let me hit the record button, even if it's just a video, 297 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:37.359 video and audio together or just audio, did I will stop, I 298 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:41.079 will stop that record button fifty times because I'm like God, I didn't say 299 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.039 that right, I said it funny. So maybe it's a little bit of 300 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.960 a personality thing to for me to go okay, dude, this is crunch 301 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.279 time, like you either go either you go hard or you or or whatever 302 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.640 like you to get people's attention and keep it, or you just fall to 303 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:59.720 the wayside. So I think it's like a all nothing approach for you know, 304 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.720 for me. So yeah, Bro, I mean that's a good man. 305 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.640 I'm still a recording up in a DC with what a one of my 306 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.680 groups, and one are the things that was so interesting was the difference in 307 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:12.880 personalities, right, is because not all of them, you know, some 308 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:15.400 of them needed to be prepared. Right. They're usually the laid back, 309 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:19.119 more reserve type, and so they needed to kind of like see the questions 310 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:22.279 right down some answers. You know, even have like a you know, 311 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:25.319 it's just a q sheet in front of your you know, we didn't have 312 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:29.039 a confidence monitor because I didn't think I had that far because I assumed everybody 313 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:30.039 was like me. Right, just spit it off the top of your head. 314 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:33.119 But it was the fact that they needed to prepare and it's like for 315 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.680 me, I'm like what, you go live, like being able to go 316 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.880 live all the time, and we I just do this whatever, like you 317 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:42.119 ask a question on the fly. You're like, Hey, let's go live. 318 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.400 You said the leak I board. We didn't really talk about what we're 319 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.440 going to talk about today, right, we just jumped on here and just 320 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.119 made a thing happen, right. Yeah, true. Well, and you 321 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.680 know, I think that's about knowing you're you know, knowing your content, 322 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.160 knowing your audience as well. It's like, I mean we're going live talking 323 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.400 about live streaming, which is, you know, and really it's a QA 324 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.400 session. So be sure, if you're watching or listening, like be sure 325 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.920 to answer, you know, ask your questions about going live with audio and 326 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:14.279 video, because Chris and I both are going live quite a bit. I'm 327 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.480 going live, I'm going live with video and audio. Trying to do multiple 328 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:19.319 things. Is it a good choice? I don't know. Should I focus 329 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:22.920 on one thing? I don't know. I'm throwing mone against the wall. 330 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:27.720 We're going to see what sticks. But it is this like energetic thing to 331 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:33.000 do. And so and some people say like why should and actually knees just 332 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:37.880 said this, why should you care about live streaming? I honestly, I 333 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:42.519 honestly think it does. I mean it doesn't matter, right it like if 334 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:48.839 you prefer to record and then produce and then all that kind of stuff, 335 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:52.839 like prerecord and then in. That's fine, like do that. I think 336 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.880 it's a I think it's more or leans heavy on personality myself. I mean, 337 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.039 I know for me it's like I just come alive when I'm doing a 338 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:06.880 live stream, versus I'm sitting here sweating, getting anxious and nervous recording and 339 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:08.960 then having to get back and fix all the mistakes. I'm just like, 340 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.240 okay, this is go. So I don't know. I mean, yeah, 341 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:15.680 but what are the one are the people that I follow or work with 342 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:19.039 that they teach the like the biggest thing they teach us? They're teaching women 343 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.440 entrepreneurs to go live and how to make money going live. Use a video, 344 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:26.519 right. And I think one of those one of the things that adds 345 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:29.400 to it is the low the what is it? The no like and trust 346 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.759 factor, right, the marketing piece of people buy from people they know, 347 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.640 like and trust. And if I'm just hearing your voice, okay, maybe 348 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:40.519 that's one little piece, but if you're like on instagram live or on Youtube 349 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:44.000 vibe or wherever, and like and I can ask you a question about this 350 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.039 product right now. You know, billy, you're doing the course. Hey, 351 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:48.960 billy, in your course, do you cover this and you go, 352 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:52.319 well, absolutely, I cover this here. Let me get a little sneak 353 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:55.799 beat. Oh, so now you'd building the rapport now you're selling them without 354 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:57.319 selling them, because you're just talking and doing the show. And guess what 355 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:02.279 they got concept for later do it all over again. Yeah, that's true, 356 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:06.200 man, and it does probably. I mean I noticed this with clubhouse, 357 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:07.640 like if you're doing this as a business now, I think this is 358 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:14.519 really interesting approach, is to use video and not just lie but but definitely 359 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:18.480 life to but use it as a marketing like video marketing is huge, like 360 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:22.720 it shows statistically way more engagement, way more conversion, and I do think 361 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:27.359 it is that it's cutting down all this friction, all this potential. You 362 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.359 know, crap, they can get in the way. And same with social 363 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.680 audio. I mean I know like on Clubhouse, I feel like I've done 364 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:40.880 a decent amount of business on there with very little marketing effort outside of that 365 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:44.000 platform, and so I think you're a hundred percent correct. It's like, 366 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:47.359 but you got to lean into what you enjoy as well, and that's what 367 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:49.480 I want to really shout out. Just because Billy's going live or Chris or 368 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:55.599 maybe sit or knee or whoever, doesn't necessarily mean that you need to do 369 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:59.039 it because but if you want to do it, if there's that little itch, 370 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:03.680 it's more possible today than any other time on the planet in my opinions. 371 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:07.400 So in Montie, we were just said video accelerates the know I can 372 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:11.359 trust. So, yeah, basically what we're saying it accelerates that relationship and 373 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.319 if you're doing this, you know from a perspective of like I want to 374 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:18.680 return on my investment of energy, and this is definitely energy well spent as 375 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.759 far as creating a show. So Yeah, love it. All Right, 376 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.519 man, let's see what else we got going on here, and just want 377 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:27.720 to check the chat and I okay, so let's talk about this. Go 378 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:32.680 ahead and we'll talk about is who in time out? It's still in time 379 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:36.839 out. I just need to know. I missed it most it was always 380 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:40.400 in time out. All right, he is. He doesn't get he doesn't 381 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:41.559 get put in time out, he gets taken out of time out. That's 382 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:47.759 what happened. That's hilarious. Okay, so let me ask you this question. 383 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:51.799 So this is a good question. How often are you engaging with the 384 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:55.799 chat? How, because that's another thing. It's like I'm delivering content, 385 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.759 talking about beat, a live streaming Bolvo, and then I'm like, Oh 386 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:02.759 hey, what's up? Is that distracting or is that add to because I 387 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:07.720 know what I'm in the audience and I'm I'm commenting and people are engaging, 388 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.599 bring my comment up on the screen. I'm like, Oh dude, this 389 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:12.599 is dope, like, I love it. So what do you think about 390 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:17.440 that? What have you seen? Yeah, so I think strategy of what 391 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:22.400 you're doing with the video after back right. One of the things see, 392 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:25.039 for example, one of the places that I live stream to and was on 393 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.880 live, and so I'm showing products, and so the problem is, is 394 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:33.319 that what I'm showing products, I need to talk about the product, because 395 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.720 what I want to do is there rown take that snippet out to use it 396 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:40.519 as a short video, and so what I'll do is I'll go there, 397 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:42.960 I'll talk about the product and I won't say anything, you know, specifics 398 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.200 to the audience, just so I get that snip it and it right after 399 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.960 I'll come and go hey, what's up, saying what's up, Ben what's 400 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.920 up to appreciate you guys. Drop your questions in the chat blah, Blah 401 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:55.960 Blah. That is what we're talking about today and I just sculped my talk 402 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.519 around that being able to cut out pieces that I'm going to I know that 403 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:03.079 I'm going to what it used later, but I get you. Just make 404 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.839 it sure that you do acknowledge them, but you do interact with them at 405 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:11.079 those pieces. Okay, that's a good strategy, maunt. I like that. 406 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.240 I like kind of it does think the production to another level of like 407 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:15.880 preplanning, like hey, you know you're going to want to use this piece. 408 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:18.440 You know this is like gold, so to speak, so make sure 409 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.079 you make room for it so you can cut it out later without interrupting your 410 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:25.599 own content. I think that's a good tip. Man. That's a great 411 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:29.440 that's a great takeaway, because I'm always, you know, trying to figure 412 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:33.400 out like what is the balance of, you know, what is the balance 413 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.599 of engaging with the audience live versus delivering the content, because I'm always wanting 414 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.920 to deliver the content and that's the part I enjoy the most. And then, 415 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:48.160 you know, engagement sometimes for me is like I want to engage, 416 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.200 I'm going to engage, but sometimes it can be distracting and you know, 417 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.039 like I can get. I can go on that whole sit and time out 418 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.119 rant for like twenty minutes, probably because I think it's so funny, but 419 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:03.240 anyway, so yeah, man, thanks for thanks for sharing that. So 420 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.680 let's jump into a little bit. So we talked about having a run sheet. 421 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:10.640 We talked about having and just to kind of give you guys an idea 422 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.960 of what my run sheet looks like, is I literally have show logistics so 423 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.279 I can keep organized. I get my show title, I got host, 424 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.480 I get any guests or guest host. I put all the platforms I'm streaming 425 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.400 to on there so I can keep up with it the air day. And 426 00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:30.160 maybe this is over overdoing it, but then then I get down on to 427 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.119 my show outline, which I'm you know, even downe like intro music, 428 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:36.359 howl on, two minutes and thirty five seconds or whatever. You know, 429 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:40.759 what time do I need to start the countdown? What's the intro to the 430 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:42.160 show like? What's the title of the show, because I just want to 431 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.559 make sure I got it all in front of me, because I will forget 432 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:47.799 all this stuff. And then I just have three, you know, for 433 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:52.079 this show in particular, three different segments. Essentially, I got the creator 434 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.680 highlight the news segment, or maybe four segments, the news segment, the 435 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.200 interview or whatever, and then I typically open up for like a Qa and 436 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.599 then I say bye. So that's kind of my run sheet. Now. 437 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.119 Are you like that? Organized you just like I got the title and from 438 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.839 okay, here, I guess he's gonna show it on the screen. That's 439 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:17.200 a blank piece of paper. Dude, what are you doing? You're a 440 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.920 recklar with it. You're a reckless Chris. Shame on you, Bro. 441 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.519 What it's me that whatever the title is for the show may we're going with 442 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.359 it. I mean, every once in a while write a couple like let 443 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.839 me hit these five points and I'll just have them just side. Know, 444 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.759 there's will Smith when I need him. This guy. All Right, last 445 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.720 will Smith Joke. But you know, it's funny, Bro what up with 446 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.599 other what I'm like doing it for other people? I need their run a 447 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:42.440 show to be one point, because I need to know exactly where they're going, 448 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:47.039 what they're talking about. Right what, Bobit so like if I'm producing 449 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:48.119 the show for you, I need you to give me that Rud a show 450 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.519 if I'm here. So whatever, we'll get to it. If we get 451 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.119 to it, who does? All right, yeah, man, I mean, 452 00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:57.559 I get, I mean and I don't know, I want to be 453 00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.319 like that one day when I grow up, but I'm just not. I 454 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.720 still, like every day, every day on this daily show, I'm putting 455 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:08.079 stuff down. Now I'm not writing down questions like I have maybe one starter 456 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.480 question or one, you know, if I think of like topics, like 457 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.279 I want to make sure I cover this topic or this thought or whatever, 458 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.640 I'll can have those bullet points. But yeah, dude, I got it 459 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:21.039 all. Yeah, I can't believe you. Just show me. You gave 460 00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:22.960 me anxiety. Show me that blank piece of paper. What are you doing, 461 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:27.160 reckless live streamer bro but I feel like I think for me, but 462 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:32.880 I think that's what makes it better for when I'm actually doing something organized right 463 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:34.240 like one of the podcast that we're going to be doing, the guy that 464 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.559 I'm running it with, it's easy. It's got to be organized. We've 465 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.559 already done the run a show of like hey, you know, these first 466 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.279 couple of minutes is the intro. We're going to talk for this twenty minutes 467 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.039 right here. They were going to do the rapid fire questions at the end 468 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:49.839 and they we're going to endit this point because we need it to be thirty 469 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.079 minutes or less, because it's just how we want to deliver it and it's 470 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:57.559 like super like that, and it's for in that instance. It makes it 471 00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:02.960 easier for me to do it that way because I can do it about the 472 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:04.960 structure. So because I can do it without structure, I can do it 473 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:08.680 with the structure. Right, all right, okay, let make okay, 474 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.680 that makes sense. Each to their own. I still, I still, 475 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.039 I still think you might need a little track of the whip get him going 476 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:18.480 here. All right. So, if you're just joining us, here we 477 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.240 go. Here's my here's my livestream reset. If you're just joining us, 478 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.559 you're watching creating daily. My name is Billy Thorpe. I got my guest, 479 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.039 my cohost guests, Chris Jiles. We're talking about live streaming for your 480 00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:33.160 podcast, really live streaming in general, but I think creating a live stream 481 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.359 podcast is pretty fun in general and you can do that on a lot of 482 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.079 different platforms. So let's dive into that a little bit crisp, because I 483 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:48.519 know, dude, it's so easy now compared to five years ago and when 484 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.480 you were talking about live streaming. What are some of the platforms that you 485 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.160 go live on? Are you trying to be everywhere all the time, or 486 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.200 when you first start out, are you picking one and like tripling down on 487 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.759 it? Man, when I first got started, it was being everywhere because 488 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:06.960 I'm trying to figure out what you know, because part of me, part 489 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.160 of it is it where's the audience add part of it is what do you 490 00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:14.240 where do you actually like to stream? And so I'll be dude. If 491 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.759 we talk about the list of platforms I've been on, I mean you're talking 492 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.559 twitch, you're talking youtube, facebook, facebook, gaming, obviously, clubhouse, 493 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.279 you know, instagram, like Amazon live. I've been on Ali Baba 494 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.960 Life. So you know, but's P privently know that even exists. Like 495 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.440 wrote, like, if it's a video feed, I'm coming to it. 496 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.920 I've done periscope for clients like Hey, and I can't like where house? 497 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.359 Maybe, Oh, like we're where you want to go live. We're there. 498 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.720 Okay. So, okay. So this leads me to my tone. 499 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.359 Another question and I'll kind of go back to that and share where we're going 500 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.759 live right now in another platform that I'm testing out as well. But out 501 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.400 of all those platforms that you've tested. You know one thing about podcasting. 502 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.279 I'm sure live streamers and youtubers are like, I mean all of us. 503 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.440 So for content creators, we want eyeballs or ears, you know, getting 504 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.359 getting our content. So out of all those platforms, like, where have 505 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:12.279 you seen the most success for you or and or for your clients? So 506 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:17.559 for me, youtube to be is the borest, most sustainable, it is 507 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:26.039 the most that's the friends, the most discoverable, discoverability for it's the easiest 508 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.640 place to get discovered. Right. Yeah, facebook was really good at a 509 00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.720 season because I was a part of a group. I was a moderator, 510 00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:36.680 admitted a group that had thirteenzero people. So what? I went live, 511 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.480 I was the guy. Right, everybody got the notification and then something, 512 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.440 you know, facebook kind of change a little bit of there how they send 513 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.160 that out, and so that kind of died out for me, but in 514 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.039 that group. Right. So, yeah, I mean YouTube still my favorite 515 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:53.640 overall. But all right, so youtube it is. So I'm going live 516 00:30:53.839 --> 00:31:00.240 right now. We are live on Youtube, we're live on twitch, we're 517 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.599 live on facebook, we're live on twitter. What I say? That's a 518 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.880 youtube. I don't know. We're alive. And like seven place, clubhouse 519 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.599 and Bull Horn. So Bull Horn is a new one and I think for 520 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.880 podcasters this is kind of an interesting platform because it is a podcast player or 521 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.279 a podcast Catcher, however you want to say it, but it's literally when 522 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.440 you upload your RSS Feed, you can submit your rss feed to bullhorn and 523 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:30.839 be beyond their feet. And then also they have a player, a live 524 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:34.039 stream platform. So I'm live on there right now and I'm just pushing this 525 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:38.920 feed to their to their platform, and I'm going live and so I can 526 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.240 see I have one listener, which is Michael Sterling. See Hello and bull 527 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.240 horn. So what's up, Michael? Get to see you on here and 528 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.440 people can call in, they can do questions, they can chat. There's 529 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.920 three different places for that, which is pretty cool. So I thought that 530 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.920 was a really interesting and that's what intrigued me the most. Chris, about 531 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.480 bullhorn was that it is actually a podcast player. So I thought maybe the 532 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:05.119 odds are people are listening to other podcasts and then they see me go alive 533 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.319 and they're like, Oh, what's this guy up to? So go for 534 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:14.079 you, mad have you been getting some people or not? Really not for 535 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.599 discoverability, but I will tell you I've been. You know, I've been 536 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.839 having a little bit of trouble, like because I haven't been doing the sequence 537 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.759 right to get connected properly. So but the people over there at Bull Horn 538 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.440 are super supportive as actually have a little bit trouble before I jumped on tonight 539 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.640 and they did immediately and just shot him a message. They're on it. 540 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.000 You know, they're motivated to get the platform and get it working properly and 541 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:42.960 you know, for four different functions. You know everybody, and I think 542 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.759 that's the thing too, about I've streaming man, is everybody has different ways 543 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.200 they like to do it. Like I personally, like Ekim, I want 544 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.400 to take an e Cam feed and put it everywhere. That's what I wanted 545 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.039 to do. So putting it through restream and sending it out is like the 546 00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.599 easiest possible way. And then also, like their bullhorn, I'm pulling it 547 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.039 in through a virtual cam in virtual microphone, through Kam once again. So 548 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.039 yeah, so anyway, yeah, that's kind of my my whole process. 549 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.720 So what is your process to multi stream, like to restream? Are you 550 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.440 going through restream as well? So it depends. For a minute, I 551 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.880 was using km, but I got rid of by Apple Computer for a little 552 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.680 bit and so I'm back on v Max and so internally a v Max I 553 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:27.640 can actually stream to three different places. So if I'm only going three, 554 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.359 that it's that. I'm good. If I need to go board to three, 555 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.279 then I'm hitted to restream and then sending it out to everywhere else. 556 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.559 Okay, Gotcha. Yeah, man, so it's so I've heard this and 557 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:39.680 I don't know if it's true. I'm really tested it because I'm like, 558 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:44.000 I don't know, I really care. Maybe I should care. But if 559 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:47.759 I'm restream, if I'm using a tool like restream, are these platforms? 560 00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:55.319 Are these platforms not promoting my feed? Because they since a third party thing 561 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.160 where we're sharing you know, like video or whatever, to multi somebody told 562 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.559 me that they're. I can you use restream? You're not going to get 563 00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.519 as much bang for your back on any of those platforms because they want all 564 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:10.400 of your attention. Have you seen that? I totally disagree, because what 565 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.000 happens is, I mean think about it, restream and stream yard and melon 566 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.360 though, all those APPs, v Max, I mean all of those apps 567 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.559 that have the capability to stream to different places can also stream to just one 568 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.239 and some people are using it to just stream the wood and there's no differentiator 569 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.159 in between the in the code or the you know, sending it to the 570 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.400 actual key. That says, Hey, guess what, he's also streaming to 571 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.800 youtube too. Yeah, and make sense. Yeah, this makes sense. 572 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.639 That's what I always think it. I was like, it sounds a little 573 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.400 too smart for all the smart technology, but maybe it's not. You know, 574 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.719 maybe maybe they do say, Oh, billy, billy, you can't 575 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.079 be streaming, you can't be showing everybody your goods, only us, so 576 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.039 we're going to punish you. I don't know. So, maybe so, 577 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:53.599 so, all right. So I just want to remind everyone this is a 578 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:58.440 QA session as well. So feel free to drop your questions in or if 579 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.960 you're in the audience on clubhouse or bullhorn and you want to come up on 580 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:06.159 bullhorn, you can call in, you can chat, you can put it 581 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.599 in the questions box. If you're on Clubhouse, you can raise your hand. 582 00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.559 Will bring you on stage. The only thing I ask is if you 583 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.039 come up on on any audio source, either call in or on Clubhouse, 584 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.400 that you actually ask a question about the content we're talking about. That would 585 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.800 be very helpful. That is one thing I don't like about clubhouse is, 586 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:30.239 you know, it is a little tough sometimes to rain in the questioners. 587 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.559 Are The question askers, or however you say it to stay on topic. 588 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.000 So if you have a question, feel free to drop it in the chat 589 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.400 or if you want to jump up, then feel free to do that as 590 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:45.960 well. And if not, Chris and I will just keep dropping little nuggets 591 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:50.119 of hopefully helpful nuggets about how to make your live stream, you know, 592 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.840 kind of work flawlessly, and I think we were always learning, man like, 593 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.440 you know, I think that's one thing that I've noticed, even doing 594 00:35:55.519 --> 00:36:00.400 this every day for the last several days, like couple weeks, that it 595 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.440 you know, you like, they're still stuff to learn, they're still stuff 596 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.800 to figure out your workflow and you know, bringing like for me it's like 597 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.960 bring the music down, play the intro. I forget to do some of 598 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:13.599 that. I get wrapped up. I'm trying to get stuff working and all 599 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.760 that. So have a little mercy on yourself when you first start streaming because, 600 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.880 Chris, I mean we're you just like a pro where you like right 601 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:22.440 out of the womb like, Oh, this is awesome, I'm a great 602 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:27.519 streamer, or are you embarrassed by some of your first streams? Oh, 603 00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.719 Bro, my first streams were gaming streams, and so they were super boring 604 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.639 because I was literally just playing and I had nothing to talk about. I 605 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.360 was like, because there's nobody every room. Like one person, JEMP, 606 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:43.079 said it. You're like, Hey, billy, how's your day go with? 607 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:49.480 Yep, just playing some fortnight. Would a billy really still there though? 608 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.880 You left you just okay, all right, I guess I'm allow to 609 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.000 get yeah, yeah, I will say that. Man, live streaming is 610 00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.400 lonely at times and then, but also podcasting is to you just don't know 611 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:06.920 about it until later. Wait bars after it. You don't know till afters. 612 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:08.079 It doesn't hurt as bad. You can just get your ex butit you 613 00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:12.320 know what, but live streaming keeps you honest. Is like you know there's 614 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.880 only four people watching, you know there's only ten people in a clubhouse room, 615 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:20.920 like you know what the real situation is. Versus you got this expectation 616 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:22.920 of like man, I met this one, I've had this episode is going 617 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.599 to be a banger and it's gonna be two hundred people listen to it and 618 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.679 then you're like get disappointed, so maybe just get to disappoint it up front. 619 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.639 All right, we got we got monty in the comments as you motivating 620 00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.559 me. Just start a podcast now. I'm working on a workflow. Yeah, 621 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.760 man, that is definitely a part of it. So when it comes 622 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:45.559 to to podcasting, I guess for live streaming and podcasting, the workflow for 623 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.639 me it's a lot easier. Are you that way to Chris? You find 624 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.840 it that? It's like, because I don't really get back and edit alive 625 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.840 show or you going back and spend a lot of time fixing, quote unquote, 626 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:01.199 mistakes. WOT? You know, I'm not fixing it with you know 627 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.760 what was I'm talking about. This got a new show with no little the 628 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.239 back neck. It's got a new show up with notes, like his notebook 629 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.239 is blank. Like what? I don't think you're going to fix those. 630 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.079 Yeah, I ever quite other people podcast and like I just happy to hear 631 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.320 them say, like I've recorded live and they're like Oh hey, Chris, 632 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.800 we got to edit this out later, and I'm like, well, I'm 633 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.239 sure glad I was listening because I don't go back and listen to it like 634 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:29.440 you recorded it. Look, it's recorded it as is. Man, we're 635 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.079 with what do we call it? Live to drive, baby, who's your 636 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:35.920 the record? But whatever you say is old. That's what I'm talking about, 637 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.239 man. I love lives drive keeps you, keeps it fun, keeps 638 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:42.280 it fun for me anyway. So all right, so let's go through real 639 00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.000 quick. I'm going to do some mom I'm gonna do, before you hit 640 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.320 the live button, some quick tips for you guys, just to just to 641 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.599 kind of remind you of some stuff that's just technically better to do, I 642 00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:59.280 guess, real quick. So restart your computer. This is huge, Chris. 643 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:00.559 If you want to know out for a minute until us why that is, 644 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.920 you're more and welcome to I don't know why. I don't care why. 645 00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.760 I just know that I learned this long time ago and if I don't, 646 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:12.480 stuff just goes wrong faster than if I do. So always restart your 647 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:16.760 computer. Do you know why? That's why that matters. Yeah, if 648 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.599 we want to get really technical, it's because there's a bunch of back in 649 00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:22.480 stuff that if you're or you know, surf for the Internet, if you're 650 00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.960 playing games, if you're doing all this other stuff, that all of the 651 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.280 back end stuff doesn't close down and so when you restart it you have the 652 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:36.000 best chance of all those things actually close out. So be personally like you 653 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.239 said, I'd dart out. So I actually I sit up with my task 654 00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.400 manager up so I can see all of my apps are running the whole time 655 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.960 of my computer, so I know that's there. I actually don't restart my 656 00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:51.400 computer personally, but it's because I don't exactly the second. This guy doesn't 657 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.079 take notes, doesn't edit his show, doesn't reset his computer. Why do 658 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.480 I got you on my show again? I forgot. No, I'm just 659 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.199 does, but true, Dad, may dude, I say that what I 660 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:07.400 do. Okay, so I guess you don't close any of your unnecessary apps 661 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.440 either. You probably keep them running. Oh No, I absolutely close those. 662 00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:15.280 Google chrome is going to bed. If I'm glab streaming, Google chrome 663 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.039 has to go. The Google Chrome is terrible and I try not to use 664 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.920 it, but I'm forced to use it in a couple situations for some software 665 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.960 I'm musing. So restart your computer, close all unnecessary APPS. Practice, 666 00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.639 I say, practice makes perfect. I don't know that that is even true 667 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:35.599 in any part of life, but it's okay, like you're going to get 668 00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.960 better and so create a test environment, though. Don't just practice live, 669 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.679 but create a test environment. Go you know, when I first started live 670 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.719 streaming like I have, and I still do have this, I have a 671 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.360 facebook page and no one else has access to and I will go live to 672 00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.280 it, I will test to it, I will try all kinds of stuff, 673 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.840 you know, in that closed private facebook group. So that is that 674 00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.280 is one thing to do. If create a test environment and go in there 675 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:04.000 and try it all the new audio stuff, try to new you know, 676 00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.440 loop back or whatever you're trying to do, like instead of creating a live 677 00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.559 show, as I now often have, and be like who, can you 678 00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:14.760 hear me? Can you hear me? Is Everybody hear me? Let me 679 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:15.719 know if you can hear me. Okay, if you can hear me, 680 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:21.960 now we can start the show. Like most annoying ability have you probably early 681 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.239 early on, probably early early on. Now sometimes I will go live just 682 00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:29.159 to test, but I'll put it in the title like I'm testing this audio 683 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.519 thing or whatever, because I do need somebody to tell me if they can 684 00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:36.639 hear me. But probably if I had a list of annoying things, Chris, 685 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.639 that would be two of them. One is, Hey, guys, 686 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:45.079 what's up? Welcome to creating daily live show. Blah, blah, blah. 687 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.360 We're just going to hang out here until some people come, like number 688 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:55.639 one live stream fail ever. Agree or disagree. Agree with agree. You 689 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.280 got to jump into the COD's head. But, and that goes you know, 690 00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.119 that goes back to what we're talking about strategy, right, if you're 691 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:05.320 using if the strategy is that I'm going to use this later, or what 692 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.519 people to watch it later? Yeah, you jump straight in because it sucks 693 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.679 when you go back. And if you've ever come back on Youtube and watch 694 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.159 a thing, he like Mane. That's our that think I must be jam 695 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.079 pat and you'd like the first twenty minutes. Is Them like just waiting for 696 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.400 people to joy? Oh, that's mom Ay Susi sorry, cool, let's 697 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.840 talk now. You're like, you know, I just wasted twenty minutes of 698 00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.079 my life. Yeah, man, I can't deal with it, man, 699 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:34.199 I can't. You know. It's like yeah, so get to the content. 700 00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.400 There's a little protipt for you to get right to it, even if 701 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:38.880 you're talking to yourself, which, if you're starting a live streaming, you're 702 00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:42.719 going to be talking to yourself, like, trust me, unless you have 703 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.679 a built an audience already or what not, you're going to be talking to 704 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.320 yourself. So jumping there. So cool. So there you go. So 705 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.679 restart your computer, unlike Chris, close all in the Seria APPs. Bright 706 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.360 you know, practice makes perfect. Create that old test environment. Make a 707 00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.840 list, unlike Chris, of things that you want to actually talk about, 708 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.880 some bullet points. It doesn't have to be scripted, doesn't have to be 709 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.039 like, you know, word for word or whatever. But once again, 710 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.599 I used to do this. Hey, what's up? Everybody's billy? I'm 711 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:17.039 on my facebook page and I don't have anything to talk about. No one 712 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:21.239 is staying for that. Okay. So, you know, that's another thing 713 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.920 that you want to make sure you get a list or some ideas or something. 714 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.400 And then, so, Chris, let me, let me ask you 715 00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.119 this, and this is really on my list us, but what about a 716 00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:32.400 time linked? You know, people ask me in the podcast in the world. 717 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.239 Oh, what's the time of the episode? How long should it be? 718 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.079 What are you seeing with live streaming? Is there a magic number? 719 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.599 That's funny, but you get it all these youtube groups. This is the 720 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.320 funniest saying that they say and it's and everybody hates it because all the dubies 721 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.800 come and they got they ask that exact question. How long does a video 722 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.199 need to be? So same thing. How long is a live stream to 723 00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:00.199 be? As low as it takes. That's my answer to podcast. As 724 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.719 long as it takes to get the content out that is belongs it needs to 725 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.199 be. So love that answer. Same is true for video. Now, 726 00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:13.719 I know I follow some live streamers in one live streamer and I don't know 727 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.519 how true this is. Once again, you know, I don't. I 728 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.840 mean nobody works at Youtube, so they can't really say, or facebook or 729 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:23.039 whatever. But one person said you need to go live for eighteen minutes before 730 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:29.119 the algorithm takes effect and like gets your video out there. And you seen 731 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.239 that to be true, like because they're I'm not running and I see these 732 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:37.599 people running eighteen minute countdown, like I'm not waiting for eighteen minutes and I'm 733 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:42.039 not going to remember to come back in eighteen minutes easy. Eighteen minutes is 734 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.320 long. I do know that a bunch of places, the longer that you're 735 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:50.400 live, the more people get to see it, because it's one of those 736 00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.039 they want people to stay on for a long time. So they don't. 737 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:57.280 Essentially, you know, the closest friends get it and then it's like, 738 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.039 oh, he may be over the log or let's sit it to a you 739 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.480 more people. Because, of course, the you know, the the rule 740 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:07.239 I live by honestly in life is everybody selfish. They want what they want 741 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.639 at the base of it. Right. So facebook, they want you to 742 00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.159 stay on the facebook because the longer you still facebook, the more they can 743 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.280 charge for ads and the more money they make. Cool, same thing for 744 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:21.400 you to say thing for you know anywhere else. That actually he's monetizing right 745 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.480 now. And so yeah, part of it. Yet eighteen minutes seems really 746 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:29.119 long. I wouldn't do eighteen MINU accounts down. Personally, I would do 747 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.440 longer than ten minutes. Like I know a show that doesn't them, and 748 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.320 it would, but that it's ten minutes, but it's a part of the 749 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.199 show, if that makes sense. So they they start, if there are 750 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:43.119 times at one, they start to countdown at twelve fifty. They got dance 751 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:47.000 into the show. They danced for ten, but that's their thing. They 752 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.480 dance, man, they got the music going. Like I was actually guested 753 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.880 on the show and it's just like this, like they're just going fifteen minutes. 754 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:57.119 They're rocking, and so it's like giving the people something in. The 755 00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.880 audience comes in. The audience is in there. They know. Does it 756 00:45:59.960 --> 00:46:04.280 start to one and they're already in the chat at fifty, like dance time. 757 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.239 Let's go blah, blah, blah, and there and it's you know, 758 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.119 it gets down to the audience. But yeah, they say that what 759 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:13.119 it hits that time. That generally. Yeah, they they do. Who 760 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:19.119 I was talking about? LSB Okay brose. Yeah, yeah, okay, 761 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.159 that's pretty dumbint. Now that's when you know you get some good content if 762 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.840 you can get your audience to show up fifteen minutarily and dancing. That is 763 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.760 a fifteen mint and fifteen minute tick tock video. There we go. All 764 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.039 right, so wante weaver in the chances. I've noticed that ten to fifteen 765 00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:39.119 minutes is when my youtube live stream views spike. And then also, let's 766 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:43.679 see what else you said here, said I start my countdown timer five minutes 767 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.039 prior to the top of the hour. Okay, cool. So I might 768 00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.920 extend mine a little bit because I'm on it like two and a half minutes. 769 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.559 And then also I like that extra time to kind of go around check 770 00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:58.440 make sure everything's on, make sure everything's working properly, all that kind of 771 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:00.159 stuff. So it gives you a little built in, you know, a 772 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:05.159 little bumper there case poop hits the fan, I guess. So that's a 773 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.800 good tip as well. All Right, I'm going to change mine to five 774 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.639 minutes because, I mean did my page. You know, it's not really 775 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:14.400 patient. I'm like God, now I got to see here for five minutes. 776 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:16.840 That's maybe I could change it to dancing or something, I don't know. 777 00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.480 And then I saw, I saw some people. Yeah, man, 778 00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.519 I got, I got. Well, I don't want to play it because 779 00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.440 it's going to go. Actually know what, I'll play it right now. 780 00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:36.880 So, yeah, that's what it does. Just does a little timer. 781 00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:40.480 I think. Actually got that from live stream, but true, that's that's 782 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:45.519 true. But you know, if I like pick my nose or something, 783 00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.360 you know, like five is a long time. It's a long time. 784 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:52.639 All right. Anyway, I'm going to digress from that, but you know, 785 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.519 and then I saw a live show the other day, because I'm studying 786 00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:59.000 this stuff too, man, I'm not just looking, not just like trying 787 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.159 stuff out, like I'm watching other people's livestream shows. I'm kind of picking 788 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:07.079 out the stuff that I that I want and and you know now I'm looking 789 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.320 at it. So a couple guys I follow they actually have a countdown timer, 790 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:13.320 but they're kind of doing like a pre show conversation between the two of 791 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.239 them before they bring on their guests during the show. So I thought that 792 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.920 was kind of cool too. I guess you could do I guess there's no 793 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:24.320 rolls really. Yeah, so I can't remember. That's that's it. The 794 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.440 thing that we get into it is that people are like, well, what 795 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:29.480 do you do with this? And it's like, I don't try something, 796 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.840 you'll know really quickly if it doesn't work. It's true. True, you'll 797 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.039 see like everybody left. Crap. You'll do that next week. What's me 798 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:38.920 talking about, billy? Get a good Mac and not a MAC book. 799 00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:44.840 In your MAC would not crash. We're talking about me. I got one 800 00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:49.079 of the fastest Mac book pros on the planet. Knee, if you're looking 801 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.440 right now either, knock it off. I'll walk up on that stage. 802 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.880 I walk off this stage, walk off the stage. Give me a little 803 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.480 smack it. All Right, anyway, all right, so a couple more 804 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.639 tips here and they will wrap this thing up. Is Be mindful of your 805 00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:07.280 background, and I only say this because I record remote with people and men. 806 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.719 I have seen all kinds of stuff. I've seen kids walking through, 807 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.119 Grandma's walking through, a lady the other night walk through with her nightgown on. 808 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:16.880 I'm like, hey, Bro, you can tell you, you can 809 00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:21.000 tell your wife that we're like recording a podcast here, like what do we 810 00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:24.880 do? So, Bro, my door is in front so I can see 811 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:30.880 people coming in specifically for that reason, you out right. That's where I'm 812 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:32.159 at. Him, like every keep the door on this side so I can 813 00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:36.480 see what's happening. So be my fult. And then, you know, 814 00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.440 like, if you want to not show all your stuff, just get a 815 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.760 camera lens with some book on it and blur all your stuff out. I 816 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:47.679 mean, look at Chris's maybe my stream deck would actually work there we go. 817 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.400 Yeah, that's it. Now in these tell me my background needs work, 818 00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.079 and the it will when I'm back in the states and I can actually 819 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.320 put some stuff up permanently and all that. Don't worry about me, Knie. 820 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:05.199 Okay, don't worry about me anyway. He has a really good background. 821 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.480 I like his background, even on his instagram, looks good. All 822 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.119 right. A couple more little tips here. Test your sound before streaming. 823 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.159 Always important. Make sure that you can hear because videos cool, but if 824 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:20.719 you can't hear anything, that's not good. And I that will have, 825 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:23.119 I mean from time to time, man like I have and problems with and 826 00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:28.119 depending on if you're using like stream yard or you know, I've had this 827 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.199 happening a bullhorn a couple times, restream couple times where the audio just isn't 828 00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:36.400 working, permissions aren't given, or browsers, either from me or from my 829 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.880 guests. So those are a couple things to keep in mind as well. 830 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.840 And then one thing that I try to get better at, Chris, is 831 00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:46.280 looking at the camera, because I feel like this is a big thing for 832 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:52.039 people. Connection Point is to like look at the camera. So I was 833 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.119 horrible at doing this. And then I want to tell a prompter, and 834 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:58.679 now I have everything on this screen right in front of me and I'm just 835 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:04.119 looking into the will ends the entire time. See Chris isn't connected with me 836 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.079 right now. Makes me feel sad. You know, it's funny. I 837 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.920 need to get a teleprompter, because that's that is literally out of all the 838 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.480 things you've said today. That's one thing that I'm like, yeah, I 839 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:16.800 probably can't get better at that. The other stuff I'm like yeah, you 840 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:21.440 know whatever, like here's like I'm not showing up, but nobody screens and 841 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:24.639 Chris, like, I'm not showing up with notes, I'm not closing any 842 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:29.840 of my apps or my tabs on chrome, I don't care. Do whatever 843 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:31.679 and I aint looking at you. I don't talk to it, but I 844 00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:36.400 ain't gonna look at you. And then they'll last thing, but the whole 845 00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.360 lashing like this one time. Just look at the difference here. Is that 846 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:45.719 the screens like a brook screen. I mean some people do that. I 847 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:47.039 mean, I guess it depends on what can't show you got. Maybe it'll 848 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:52.079 work. A couple a couple last things here, and this is my my 849 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.199 all men, this is this is a big, huge pain point for me 850 00:51:55.320 --> 00:52:00.440 right now is Internet connection and make sure is going to the recommended software requirements 851 00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:05.800 and above I will say this. I believe some of these software companies are 852 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.599 liars, because I've done what they've said and it still hasn't worked here in 853 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:13.719 Puerto Rico, which I don't know. Who knows anyway. That's probably make 854 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:15.679 sure I've really get Internet connection and don't use chrome if at all possible. 855 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:20.800 And the last one, not least, the most important thing ever. If 856 00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:22.719 I had a drum roll, I would play it right now. To make 857 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:28.280 sure your guest has on headphones as do you, because not, you can 858 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:34.000 drive everybody nuts. Chris, you're not EO engineer. You need headphones. 859 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.079 Billy, please tell me you got some'm in right now. I do. 860 00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.360 I got a bit that, but that's why I get I got the clear 861 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.239 ones and I got the clear ones. He can't even tell. Yeah, 862 00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:45.280 I get the I get the black ones, but whatever. I don't know. 863 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.159 I should have all the clear ones. I don't know why I didn't 864 00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.719 write. When I put them in, I was like, Oh, these 865 00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:52.360 are I can still see them. Whatever. Because because you want to be 866 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.199 cool, billy, you're like, I want to be cool. When people 867 00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:58.840 to know that I got ear said, I'm like, I don't want anybody 868 00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:00.599 know. I want you to look at me be like how does he make 869 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:06.840 it sound so great? How'side? How am I going? And I didn't 870 00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:09.159 even buy these for the looks. I didn't even buy these for anything. 871 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:14.599 Bought these because my over the ears made me sweat so much. That was 872 00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:17.239 it. That was the whole reason. That makes sense. Yeah, try 873 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.719 to record in Puerto Rico and no AC in mills summer. You'll get whatever 874 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:28.320 takes. Pretty happened in my life. Try. Not Even gonna do that. 875 00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:34.480 Probably gonna go somewhere they see idiot. All right. So those that 876 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:42.679 SID meadow says he hates over the years, as do I. So awesome. 877 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.280 Well, if anybody else has any last moment questions? Oh and he 878 00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:49.639 brought up a little piece of news as well. Over here on Club House 879 00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:54.639 is road headphones will be there by Friday. So I guess he pre ordered 880 00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:59.519 those new headphones. I do. Oh My, how do I? How? 881 00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:01.199 Why it? I believe I can said guy. Well, that it. 882 00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.400 Oh Man, refer real right now. Oh Man, I got to 883 00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:10.400 do this one. Don't worry, I don't know. Listening road. The 884 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:13.840 reason I don't know that you have had phones is because you don't pay me 885 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:20.280 to talk about your products. Oh at their products. It's microphone right here, 886 00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:27.039 like this microviridor. Have I've had phones from this company? That is 887 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:29.880 so funny. All right, so we got a couple of the questions coming 888 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:36.599 in so gear. Ask Billy thoughts on my podcast review. I use my 889 00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:40.239 podcast review. I don't know I get enough reviews to use my podcast review, 890 00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:45.280 but I do have an account with those guys. So so far, 891 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:46.840 so good. I go in there when I remember I have it and check 892 00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:51.199 it, and so if I get any more reviews, because it brings all 893 00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:55.519 of if I'm remember the product correctly, it brings all of your your podcasting 894 00:54:55.679 --> 00:55:01.639 comments whatever, together. And by the way, speaking of reviews, if 895 00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:06.480 you haven't reviewed creating daily, I would like free to go to your nearest 896 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.079 podcast APP that will let you review it and review creating Dale. If you 897 00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:12.199 enjoy the show, good. If you don't enjoy the show, then just 898 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:15.880 leave that review out in the problem. I don't need you know it's getting 899 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:21.320 but leave an honest review. I love feedback and I'm always looking to tweak, 900 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.360 grow and create content that people actually want. So now let's jump over 901 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:30.199 here to Monty. Monty, the product guy, says the road headphone unes 902 00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.920 are priced good too. They are price good. What are they at? 903 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.480 What are they like? Under e one hundred and fifty? What a look 904 00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.239 at the one hundred and fifty? Yeah, I think so. I think. 905 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.920 I think that sounds about right. So well, Chris, is there 906 00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:44.199 anything, man, that I that I did, that I left out, 907 00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.000 that we should have covered? I mean there's a ton of stuff to talk 908 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:50.239 about with live streaming. We can talk about gear and lights and cameras and 909 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:53.719 lenses and I mean we could go days and days and days, but just 910 00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:57.800 wanted to kind of share a little bit of your experience, a little bit 911 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:02.639 of my experience, and then I will tell you this from a growth standpoint, 912 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.199 my podcast, my other podcast, creating for money, has grown over 913 00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:15.199 two hundred percent since I started creating daily. Not really sure why that is 914 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.320 or if it's links, you know. I mean I guess stuff linked everywhere. 915 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:23.519 I kind of created creating daily out of thin air. So most stuff 916 00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:28.960 is probably still linked creating for money. But yeah, it's grown a lot. 917 00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:31.559 So I think showing up, you know, being a creator. In 918 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.480 my experience so far off doing this for like I don't know, eight seven, 919 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:38.679 eight days or whatever it's been, I've been able to show up more 920 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:44.679 more often and people are like, Oh cool, I see growth and I 921 00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.559 see growth with this podcast and somebody brought this up yesterday, Angelique, actually 922 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:52.039 that we were talking about their daily drop show over on Linkedin brought this up. 923 00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:57.760 A good point is when it comes to marketing, you're you're out here 924 00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.840 every day, like creating daily is going daily. So I say, Hey, 925 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.480 guys, remember tomorrow I mean to be on with my friend Alejandra talking 926 00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.199 about how to learn how to create. So now I've already done the marketing 927 00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:13.159 for tomorrow show and then we show up tomorrow to the marketing for Thursday show 928 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:16.440 and etc, etc, etc. So that's kind of a cool thing about 929 00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:20.320 doing a daily show, which we could probably talk about that a little bit 930 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:25.639 later. So anyway, said, said meadows, talking trash these keyboard warriors 931 00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:29.800 tonight. Man, this is one downfall of life. Streaming all these keyboard 932 00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:35.199 warriors. Said says, amazing what happens when you pay listeners. All right, 933 00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.320 well, get it. Look there's another billy in the audience. What's 934 00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:43.519 up, billy? There we off because he had a draffe on. Billy 935 00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:46.920 boy. Yeah, billy booey learned a new friends draft giraffe tower. It's 936 00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:50.639 one. Yeah, I do have a draft. Shout out. The Raft 937 00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:54.119 Tower was good. That's another everybody. It's another creat everybody to go by 938 00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:59.119 draft, drip by Drass draft tower so I can hold on and sell mud 939 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:01.960 for a lot more. Buddy, everybody go by for sale for Twenty K. 940 00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.559 What he k what Kae? It's what he gave hoars. Twenty K 941 00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.239 dollar, whatever that means in Eve. I don't know, like twenty what 942 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:14.880 are you guy? I gotta stop this. Live Stream. Christ are talking 943 00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.000 about N FT's will be here all night. All right, man. Well, 944 00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:21.559 that has been pretty fun show. Chris, thanks for jumping on help 945 00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:25.559 me redeem myself from my miss on two o'clock today. So appreciate your brother 946 00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:30.840 for always being down to jump in and have some fun. So I'm going 947 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.880 to close this thing down. Appreciate everybody jumping in over on clubhouse, facebook, 948 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:38.199 twitch bullhorn, wherever you're watching from, I don't even know. Appreciate 949 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:43.840 you guys and gals jumping in and hanging out over here creating daily. Tomorrow 950 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.000 I'm going to be back with my friend a hundreds of talk about how to 951 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:50.599 learn to create. Believe that's the right show. I get Timoy in my 952 00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:52.880 brain right now, so I'm going to be talking to her about how do 953 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.239 you learn how to create? You know, we're talking about creating, we're 954 00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.719 talking about doing all the stuff, and maybe there's somebody that's listening to this 955 00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:02.559 or watching this and you go, this is cool, but I'm just not 956 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:06.679 a creator. Can you learn how to create? Is something you're born with. 957 00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:08.719 She's going to help us answer all those questions tomorrow, and so we'll 958 00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:14.519 see you there to BM eastern time, right here, wherever you're watching, 959 00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:16.760 where if you're listening to until next time, we'll talk to you guys later