Leaving Six Figures to Podcast

WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.280 And there we hoo. Can really like you're listening to creating daily. Yeah, 2 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:07.759 with the number one live streaming show that I'm the host of, speaks 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:16.760 to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking streaming. What is going 4 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:20.800 on? Everyone? Welcome to another episode of creating daily. I'm your host, 5 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:23.760 Billy Thorpe. In this is a daily live show where we talked to 6 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:27.359 normally, typically, not the last couple days, but typically we talking to 7 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:31.280 other creators about their creator journey to inspire you in your Creator Journey. So 8 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:35.159 if you know a creator you're watching this live, go ahead share this with 9 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:38.920 them, because the guy that I have on the show today is the real 10 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:43.079 deal, so real that he left a six figure job to go step out 11 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:46.840 on his own to be a creator. Super, super talented guy. Can't 12 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:49.520 wait to bring him on here. A few minutes you made her of him. 13 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:52.600 His name is Sean Anthony. He's a host of a podcast call schools 14 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:57.320 over now what where he is inspiring tons of people, tons of entrepreneurs, 15 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.640 business owners, all that fun stuff. Now, today's episode is a little 16 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.560 bit different for a couple reasons. One, I just moved into a new 17 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.879 studio space as you've may have heard me talk about over the last couple days 18 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:10.439 and it doesn't have AC. For whatever reason the AC went out of you 19 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:11.760 know. But I live in Puerto Rico for like ten months. I'm used 20 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:15.599 to know AC. I'm used to being hot, so if you start seeing 21 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.799 me sweat, it's normal for me. So I'm not uncomfortable. So don't 22 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:21.959 be uncomfortable for me. But then also I want to spend a lot of 23 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:26.519 time with Shawn talking about his journey. And you know, how can we 24 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:30.599 as well leave our comfort zone and become who we really want to be and 25 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.439 tap into what we really want to do. So I'm going to cut out 26 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.560 all the other segments except for one, because we got a new sponsor the 27 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:40.519 show. You may have seen it in the beginning if you're watching the pre 28 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:45.680 show, but we got our friends a liquid death have sponsored the show. 29 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:48.760 They have actually sent me a ton of water, something like five cases of 30 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:52.159 water. Super Good. I picked this up at a local whole foods, 31 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:53.879 took a took a couple drinks of it was like, Dah, this is 32 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.239 great, man. It's awesome. I reached out or made a post, 33 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.480 somebody connected US and they're like yeah, let's let's do some collaborations. So 34 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:05.200 go check those guys out. Liquid death. You can find out your your 35 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.759 nearest whole foods, but they are. This is my favorite one and you 36 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:13.120 can hear it's empty, the sparkling water one. So super good, super 37 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:16.840 interesting branding. But the cool thing is they also give ten percent of all 38 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:23.280 the profits go back to was see go to kill police. I was trying 39 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.879 to use their terminology to kill plastic pollution. So they have an initiative with 40 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.759 their product as well. So go check those guys out and in Quench your 41 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.879 thirst, Kill Your Kill Your thirst, as they would say. Now I 42 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.319 want to bring them my friend Sean. This going to be a super casual 43 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.840 conversation. We're going to dive in to how in the world do you leave 44 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:44.960 a sixfigure job? Let me think about that. Six figures to step out 45 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:49.639 on your own. Pretty pretty brave, pretty ballsy, but pretty amazing and 46 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.879 inspiring. So, my friend, Sean, Anthony, what's up, my 47 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.120 man? What's going on at first off, and I love your show, 48 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:59.159 I love the set up, I love how to the new studio is looking 49 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:00.960 at like. I can't now. There's no AC from where I'm at. 50 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:06.280 So my big old four heads better star sweating. Five, it's going to 51 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.240 start sweating. Excited to be here, man, excited to add value to 52 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.039 your audience. Yeah, man. Well, Hey, you've added a ton 53 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.120 of value to me. I know you and I connected over on Club House, 54 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:20.879 which at that point was a booming social audio platform. Now maybe not 55 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.919 so much, but I'm glad it was good when it was good, because 56 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:30.080 you and I met connected on there and although we come from vastly different places 57 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.479 in the podcasting world, you know, I'm mostly in the fishing space, 58 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:38.280 you're mostly in celebrity podcasting. You've interviewed some amazing people on your show, 59 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:39.879 but we you know, one thing I noticed about you and I, man, 60 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:45.000 is our values aligned from the creator aspect, but then also from like 61 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.280 monstation, helping people, that kind of stuff. So, dude, it's 62 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:50.680 an ant. Say all that to say it's an honor to have you on 63 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:54.240 the show and I know if if the people listening and watching or listening to 64 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:59.120 the replay get one percent of the value that I've gotten, then they're going 65 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:00.800 to be set free to another level, man. So I appreciate you being 66 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.680 here. Man. Thank you for those kind of where as many me every 67 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:06.120 day, man, and as soon as you hate me to do this, 68 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.159 I was like, yeah, of course is, billy man. Let's let's 69 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.159 do it. Let's go man, let's go, so, so, Sean, 70 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.159 I'm going to do something I never ever do. I never really say 71 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.040 hey, take me to the back story, because I like to pull stuff 72 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.920 out that I really want to talk about. But I'm curious, man, 73 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:25.720 how did you even get into this whole podcasting space? Like, how did 74 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:29.800 that happen for you? Yeah, man, I stumbled across podcast and podcasting 75 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.600 was never like like like the space for me. I never had any attentions 76 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.399 or a desire to want to do it. I didn't even know it existed. 77 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:40.079 You know, what happened is that I I happened to take a little 78 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.240 bit further back. I was just excelling in my career field. You know, 79 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.519 when I was fourteen I became a big nightlife party promoter. My brother 80 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:51.040 was on stage. He introduced me to the whole Party game. So I 81 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:56.040 understood like a marketing I understood how to get people to an audience. I 82 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:59.040 mean I was partying with like Rick Ross and young Geez, you know, 83 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.199 and so at fourteen, you know, I think my first party may six 84 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:04.720 grand, which was crazy as a fourteen year old. But I took that 85 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:10.519 skill set and I went to an HBCU and I went to what's the Salem 86 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:14.600 State University, where I was very successful in the party aspect. But if 87 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.560 everybody billy, everybody graduated, they all graduated, all left, you know. 88 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.399 So I had to take that skill set to corporate, which then led 89 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:27.360 me to being promoted six times for years and I took a job promotion to 90 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:31.439 had me six hours away from my family and that's where I stumbled across that 91 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:38.000 weird purple APP that podcasting Appen, you know, and for me it changed 92 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:42.000 my life. You know, I was listening to guys like a my lad 93 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.800 Chris Drama Path and Carmichael, all these guys. I said it is respectfully 94 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.600 because they've all been on my show now, but I recognized really quickly it 95 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:54.639 didn't look like me and sound like me and it was a completely different audience 96 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:59.199 that I could reach. And I watched my success right selfeside, because you 97 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:01.399 grow up sometimes we see our success, but I saw, you know, 98 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:06.000 my friends not succeeding that they know what to do after school at the education 99 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:10.480 and so I wanted to create a show and that was schools over now. 100 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.800 What? Well, man, that's a so I love that. First of 101 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.040 all, you recognized. Yeah, I mean, and I think this is 102 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.399 the thing about podcasting, or anything really, anything, any industry, is 103 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:25.639 like when you're in it and you're studying it and maybe you're consumer of it, 104 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:27.800 but then you go hey, there's this missing puzzle piece. Man, 105 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.360 I'm not being represented here, my community's not being represented here. And how 106 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:35.000 do I you know, and I think that's pretty innovative of you to you 107 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:39.000 know, even right after college, to be leaning into this. So how 108 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.720 long? How long have you been doing schools over that? What? Yeah, 109 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.120 and end of June. So coming around like end of June, June 110 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.240 twenty nine will be right at four years, right, or four years, 111 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:53.560 wow, man. And how many episodes is that all right? Now we're 112 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.959 on episode Perach, episode two hundred and eleven. We haven't missed a single 113 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.560 week since. It's big game on. Man. Love that. Man. 114 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:02.800 Yeah, what is the I think the average for every podcast is like or 115 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:06.439 not every podcaster, but the average quitting spots like seven to ten. So 116 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:10.519 you, yes, barely. Yeah, very early. Right. This is 117 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.959 staying caught high fate. I think people approach the game so differently now when 118 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:15.959 like, Oh, I want to start something all, I want to do 119 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:18.079 something. They just start talking and then they realize, oh, I hat 120 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.120 nothing to talk about, oh are eight and paying attention, you know, 121 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:26.160 and they lose their excitement enthusiasm and they stopped right around that mark, that 122 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.600 seven tonight. You never see him again. So, man, when you 123 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.360 started your podcast, did you had like this thirty thousand foot vision, or 124 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:38.160 were you just a guy who said I'm going to hit recording see what happens? 125 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.199 Oh No, definitely wasn't. Got To hit. Of course, see 126 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:44.600 what happens. I had the vision of you know, if that evolved right, 127 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:48.279 my vision was I'm going to bring in people who have no they figured 128 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.240 out what's next in life. They figured out, okay, what should I 129 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.959 do after school? Right? So I knew that was the vision, but 130 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.519 I also wanted people to get idea of me, you know. So in 131 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:01.639 the very first episode I talked about what got me to that point. Now, 132 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.120 I gave him the backstory of Sean Anthony so that the August will buy 133 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.800 into me and me being on a mission to truly give that answer to anybody 134 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:15.519 that will listen. Hmm, I love that man, and often thinks to 135 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:16.879 when people start a podcast and it will talk a you know, we'll talk 136 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.319 about podcast and I know you're I know you're multi hi, your multi hiving 137 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.079 creator, but that's often the thing, dude, is like we get into 138 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.439 it, and I did this early on in my podcasting journey. I got 139 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.040 into it and I was all about the guests. I was all about you 140 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:31.759 know, I I can I bring Balu to the guests. How can I 141 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.720 do this? You know, Blah, blah, blah. Maybe they'll share 142 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.759 my episode, maybe they'll do whatever. And I didn't realize that people. 143 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.559 Sure, they might come for the guests, they might come for the content. 144 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.759 For if they're going to hang out, it's for me, it's for 145 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.120 my personality. And if we don't share that, and I think that's what 146 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.960 attracted me to you and clubhouse, was it really, you know, because 147 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.679 we're podcasting. Isn't rocket signs. I think you and I both know that. 148 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:58.440 And there's different things that different of us did, that were on those 149 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.480 panels and we were talking, you know, a little bit differently, and 150 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.000 I tried this and I did this, but none of it was like I 151 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.720 gotta go get a degree or a PhD to figure out a podcast. But 152 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:15.320 it was the delivery of how you ran those clubhouse rooms, how you run 153 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.360 your podcast, how you communicate and you talk, and I love that. 154 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.840 That's why I really love about you. It is like man, this guy's 155 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:24.679 got a fantastic delivery. It's exciting, it's its own point, it's you 156 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.399 know, the topic is still there and I think a lot of times podcasters 157 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.679 loose sight of like you are the talent, man, and so I think 158 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.440 it's where you have gotten where you are because you are the talent. Then 159 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.840 I love the fact that you noticed that, man, and for me, 160 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.879 if you're listening right now, a lot of times we have a gift but 161 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.720 we don't know how to pay attention to it when people tell us that that 162 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:48.399 is it. And for me it was those job reviews. I would do 163 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.720 those job reviews. Remember I was promoted six times or four years and I 164 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.360 was like, I wasn't then, like no little bitty job. You know, 165 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:58.120 I was someone who was a brand manager for target, I was a 166 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:03.399 brand manager for macy's, I was a brand manager for belt and as I'm 167 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.120 going through all these jobs and I'm like selling. I remember those jot reviews 168 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.720 and it would say, man, the way you speak like people pay attention, 169 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.200 or hey, your connections, your collaboration skills are insane, like that, 170 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.840 and it was always exceed expectations. So then I sat back and I 171 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.159 was like well, Hey, I noticed when I would present, like I 172 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.360 would do presentations in front of like the CEO of macy's, they would be 173 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.600 like literally right beside me, and I I would introduce them to like Microsoft, 174 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.480 so that I have like, like I would have Microsoft in their stores 175 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:39.639 and the collaboration, and they were right about it and it would just go 176 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.720 really big. I'm like, okay, I got through this, I got 177 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:48.399 do this, I got you this. And it was a particular person who 178 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.159 reported to somebody that reported to me, who said something to me about my 179 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.399 voice and how it sounded, and I was like, HMM, okay, 180 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:00.440 I'm going to try something, you know, and I wanted to do it. 181 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.919 I think sometimes you know, Insideti, there's a spark and you got 182 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:07.360 to apply action and when you apply action to that idea, it may not 183 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.159 be what you think you're going to do, but it turns out being something 184 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.919 bigger, you know. So that's what that's what's what's happened with me. 185 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.519 And even in the terms of clubhouse, like I observed. I watch everybody 186 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.879 for probably about two weeks, just listening in rooms, trying to figure out 187 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.080 what my angle would be, and then I caught it and I say, 188 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.559 you know what we podcast, it is revealed. They come in this room. 189 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:37.080 I'm gonna give them that work. And Right. And people dead. 190 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.519 And in the beginning stages we're talking Lewis House, Pat Flynn million I was 191 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:46.080 worth of game. You name it on your leisure they were all there. 192 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.279 Yeah, man, I mean, and I remember being in those rooms and 193 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.440 I remember, you know, just and that was the thing, man, 194 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.320 one thing that you just said that I love, and I think this is 195 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.240 especially as you get, you know, older. I've got older anyway. 196 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.480 You know, I think so many times like humility is like this false thing 197 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.080 that does. I mean, it's like, you know, it's to put 198 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.600 on. It's like I'm trying to be the most umble guy ever and sometimes 199 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.080 when people give you a compliment, you know, you step back and go 200 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.360 well, okay, yeah, but then you like try to flip it. 201 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.519 But I've done the same thing in my creator journey when, and that's why 202 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.480 I start a live streaming it's why I started podcasting as well, because people 203 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.039 go and you know what, you're pretty good. You know, you're pretty 204 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.320 good on camera. You look like you're having a lot of fun or whatever. 205 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:30.480 It looks easy for you. I can never do that. And so 206 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.559 I listen to that and I was like, well, maybe they're onto something. 207 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.799 So I love what you said, man. That's a big takeaway for 208 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:41.080 somebody listener watching is listen to the people around you or, if you're bold 209 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.759 enough, just go ask him like Hey, what do you think I'm good 210 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:45.879 at? Man, like if I just you know, I think that's a 211 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:50.440 good thing, man, that you recognize that in these corporate meetings, in 212 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.320 these you know, where you're different, people going hey, man, this 213 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.600 is a little different, this is awesome, and then you leaned into that. 214 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.200 You know, you know, it's funny building. I think about it, 215 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.279 man, as a smile, as thinking about it. I will always 216 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.799 throw like a little punch line in there. Like I would throw like a 217 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.919 little punch line in there. I would, you know, everyone's in your 218 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.759 those corporate settings. I don't care about as sales and all they care a 219 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:13.440 by the sales and it meanya and goal and depend on where we were adding 220 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.519 what we're talking about, what season that was in. I could have a 221 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:22.360 football analogy or whatever it was, and I would just see them stuck and 222 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.440 I said it was like, as I said, I okay, got it, 223 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.080 okay, got it, and then they put me like on a fast 224 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.320 track and I was just gone, go on, gone, Gong, gone. 225 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:33.120 But it was those moments. Yeah, man, will do, and 226 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.279 I think those are the moments where it's like you stand out from the crowd. 227 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.639 You know, I think so many times as creators and it's like, 228 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.399 Oh, I'm going to and it's good to study. I mean I study 229 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.159 the Pat Flynns of the world. I study, you know, the loose 230 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:48.720 house. I study these guys because they are run in ahead of me there. 231 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.360 You know, they figured out, you know, they figured it out, 232 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.000 whatever it is in and oftentimes, if we're not careful, we'll try 233 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:00.360 to be the Gary Vander Chuck or whoever, you know, whoever it is, 234 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.120 and we're we lose our own identity, man. So how of you, 235 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.159 as a creator, you know, kind of found and held onto your 236 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.480 own identities or, like some strategies that you do to keep that in check. 237 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:16.039 Yeah, I think. I think you always need to have like a 238 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.240 North Star, like you always need to have, you know, I would 239 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.240 say, least two to three examples of what you want to become, right, 240 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:24.720 and I think that what you have to do at that point is, 241 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.320 how can you put your sauce to it, how can you put your own 242 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.679 swag to it? And so it feels like it's jailing you. You know, 243 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.960 and for me that's always been the case. You know, whether it 244 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:39.039 was coming up wanted to become a better interview or whether it was becoming, 245 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:41.679 you know, someone that's going to teach the podcast gay, if it was 246 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:45.399 becoming now what I'm doing now, and talent management, representing so many different 247 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.720 people, you know, and that aspect, you know, and it remember 248 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.120 your uniqueness, right, like what was that unique draw that you had that 249 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.559 others just can't have like you. You can go work at plenty of places, 250 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.440 but that doesn't mean that you have. But it takes it do exactly 251 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:03.679 what you want to do. All right, I don't care. Someone saw 252 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:07.440 how I worked. that the open win for show and I worked that working 253 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:09.960 did this with that person. Okay, that's all past tense. You know 254 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.200 what I'm know, more right here. So what are you doing to it? 255 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.240 To Propel yourself and Excel? Yeah, you got on a job training 256 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:22.440 and on the job experience. That's cool, but what are you like and 257 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:24.799 how a people are attracted to you, because anybody can go linked in and 258 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.759 get a job, but what you're doing your own. That's good, man. 259 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.120 I love that. I think this all good advice. To figure out 260 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:35.200 your unique positioning and lean into it and will be afraid to lean into it, 261 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:37.240 and if you fail, you fail. You know. It's same with 262 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.519 the same with all the stuff that we're doing is contact creators. It's like 263 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:43.840 did I throw them up against the wall faster and harder than anybody and if 264 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.840 I fail, I fail. You know whatever that means. But I learned, 265 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.000 you know, a lot of stuff along the way and I figure out 266 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:52.000 how not to do something. I figure out something that no one else has 267 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:56.000 at times. So many we talked a lot about your corporate career, your 268 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:00.399 job, like, obviously your brand managing for these huge corporations that we all 269 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.799 shot at and know and love. So how in the world did you go 270 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.080 from that to, like, I'm out of here. I'm going to I'm 271 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.200 going to leave the comfy, cushy job and I'm going to go out on 272 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:14.919 my own. And I've was a part of that journey a little bit. 273 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:17.440 I mean I heard a little bit to this is on clubhouse and I was 274 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.200 like come on, dude, let's go, let's I was really before the 275 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.279 whole time. And then when you're like I'm out, I stepped down like 276 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.799 yeah, freedom, and another one, another one gets some freedom, and 277 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.559 I was proud, man. So so walk us through that journey of kind 278 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:34.480 of how that happened. Yeah, man, one you have to, like 279 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:40.320 I utilize a couple things. One, you IVER's listening and you're excelling in 280 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:45.000 in your career, but you also are excelling in a side business or a 281 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.960 company or whatever, and you're doing your own things. Acquired revenue. One 282 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.200 are the things that I caught on really quickly was you have to have two 283 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:59.399 years of tax records in order to utilize and LLC to like get like the 284 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:03.360 major things, like the house. All right, you know, if you 285 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:07.160 wanted a certain car, possibly there's other ways to get around in the car 286 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:10.559 ash back. But when I really I caught one of that I said, 287 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.599 okay, I'm going to do this the legit way, the right way. 288 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:18.720 I'm going to utilize the the on paper assets of working at a company. 289 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.160 I'm going to legitimize my business so that if it does take two years and 290 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:26.960 get the tax records, okay, that's fine, but how do I speed 291 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:30.599 this up? Right? So I sped it up by you losing my job 292 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.240 to acquire those things, even though I had got my side house at the 293 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:37.839 time over six figures. You know, that's a house. It was over 294 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.640 six figures. But there's still was some things that I wanted to get, 295 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:42.160 for the fan where I wanted to get the house or I wanted to check 296 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:45.519 that off. I didn't want to wait and I'm cool. Thing about it 297 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:48.160 is this is that I've worked, you know, I, like I said, 298 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.200 excel, you know, six times and four years. I was just 299 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:55.559 excelling. I didn't want to spend all that time in the past and not 300 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:59.160 getting nothing for it. Yeah, right, yeah, and as I can't 301 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.799 I can acquire all of that and not got knocketing. That's not at the 302 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:06.319 deal. So I got I got that out of the deal. I made 303 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:11.279 my business legit I started setting up. Okay, what did I learn from 304 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.960 from this company? How did they operary? How did they move? What 305 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.599 reports today pay attention to? You know, how and how can I, 306 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.799 you know, then take those type of set ups, daily scheduling, task 307 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:27.920 and routine and apply it to me, you know, and and apply it 308 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:32.440 to you know. It's no difference, right, if I was a brand 309 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:37.119 manager for target and macy's and belts, I can brand manage a human being. 310 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:45.640 So that was it. And also, to it just became overwhelming in 311 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:49.920 and you talk about trying to be humble, like, imagine having a meeting 312 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:53.359 like we're with a bunch of people who are at a company, right, 313 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:56.880 and they don't worry about sales and all that, and the back of your 314 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:02.599 phone, your phone going off and it's like Forbes if all going off and 315 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.319 it's like a big deal conference. Your phone going off and it's like university 316 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.160 ready to pay you. I remember the first check I got from a college 317 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:14.880 university. First I got from a college university, I got it from a 318 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.759 school I can never get into, you know. So I got a check 319 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:22.880 from I got a check from Temple University for four thousand dollars for thirty minutes, 320 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:27.880 right, and this is virtual shit. When this, yeah, okay, 321 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:30.599 this was this was very to it wasn't even, it wasn't even in 322 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:34.319 person. So so, so awesome, dude, it so all this is 323 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:38.640 happening while I'm still working at is job, you know. And and so 324 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:44.079 it became hot, the Sean anthy that was becoming. It became hard for 325 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.920 me to be around and environment, knowing I had so many other things going 326 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.880 on. So I was constantly moving. People probably was looking for me at 327 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:55.279 some point, I don't know. It was always so funny to me, 328 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:57.240 though, billy not I think about it. I had people that report it 329 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:00.720 to me, a lot of people that report it to me, and they 330 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.279 would look for me, and the back of my mind I say to myself, 331 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.279 then, I'm your boss. Just go, do what you gotta do. 332 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.599 Go, man, just go. You know, something goes wrong, 333 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.359 I got you with this guy. Do you pay? You know. So 334 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.799 I was always so funny to me, but I'm very grateful for having those 335 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.200 moments because now, when I'm doing and moving how I moving, I'm like, 336 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:26.039 yeah, I cannot believe I was doing that well now, but I 337 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.720 had to do it, man, and I think that's what separates, you 338 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:33.400 know, the doers from the wanters. It's like the the achievers from the 339 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.279 one, you know, the people who who they say they want to do 340 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:37.319 it, but some people would take action. So I you know, I 341 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.119 run into this a lot when I'm helping people and I'm helping content creators or 342 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:45.200 entrepreneurs or whatever. They go I want to do this all, you know, 343 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:47.720 I want to, want, I want, but then I'm like, 344 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:51.200 where's the action? Like even the little action, the little when will kind 345 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:52.880 of set you up. And one thing that you said, I mean there's 346 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:56.960 a couple things there I want to kind of recap on. One is, 347 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.720 you know, you really mentioned using that that position that you're in. So 348 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.720 if somebody's watching this or listening to it and you got its dream of like, 349 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:06.480 man, I want to do what these guys are doing right now and 350 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:10.200 great content at two o'clock in the afternoon and get paid for it and have 351 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:15.799 brand deals and all this, it is really about learning that skill set, 352 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.799 because I'm very similar to you, man. I work for a several different 353 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.119 corporations, I work for some nonprofits, and through that I learned everything. 354 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.119 I learned how this camera works, I'll learn how these lights work. I 355 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.400 learned how all how to set up a student I learned all this stuff and 356 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.599 then, instead of just being the griper who's like, man, I hate 357 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:34.920 this, I hate this, I don't want to work, I was like, 358 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.119 okay, cool, I can use this later, maybe I can take 359 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:40.960 this later. And so you know, for you, you know, and 360 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:44.119 everyone listening to man, that's you know, I think that's key to say, 361 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:47.519 like, if you're in that job right now that you hate, that 362 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:52.720 you don't want to go back to tomorrow, look around and Change Your perspective 363 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.440 and start putting stuff in your tool bag and learn, because there's spending millions 364 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.240 of dollars to figure out how that organization system works. There's been a millions 365 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.519 of dollars to figure out how to hire, you know, a hundred employees 366 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.799 a month, like, and you want to scale to that, then let 367 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:10.480 that be your education. And then, Dude, I love what you said. 368 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:12.599 Like I went, I went, got a four thousand dollar check for 369 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:18.640 thirty minute presentation from a college I wasn't qualified to go to get in Al 370 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.680 did. It gave me freaking chills when you said that because I'm like, 371 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.880 I love that, man, because I was not a good student I own 372 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:33.640 paper and probably like way below average and should be not doing anything, you 373 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:36.480 know, but bagging grushers, which, by the way, respect people who 374 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:37.079 do that. I've done it. You know, done that before. It 375 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.920 doesn't I'm not saying that's whatever, but yeah, Dude, I love that 376 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.640 story. I mean that's a book, right. They're like yeah, man, 377 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.480 shout out, to shut up. Temple University. They sent me a 378 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:51.599 Mug and a t shirt. I think to you went there, you did 379 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:53.960 that and get the t shirt. That's what I'm talking about. I love 380 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.519 it. mant so as a creator. Okay, so you kind of you 381 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.440 kind of give us a little hints of how you're getting paid as a creator. 382 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.559 So you are, you're doing the podcast. I imagine that that is 383 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.200 probably income generating either through you know. Well, I'll let you tell me. 384 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.480 I won't imagine. Yes, I'll let you tell me. How does 385 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:14.319 that one particular is of the puzzle generate income? Well, so funny that, 386 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:17.640 you know, even with the podcast in general, people are say, 387 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:19.000 Oh, I want to brand deal or want to brand deal. I've had 388 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:26.440 multiple brand deals offers I've had. I've had potential podcast companies wanting to just 389 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:30.200 hurchase the podcast and on a Ip tip. But the quickest way I got 390 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.200 to the money is I became my own ad. You know. Yeah, 391 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.599 I think about it like I was one of the very first people just start 392 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.640 this podcasting that looks like I look. But I also wanted to not be 393 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:48.039 the only one. So I wanted to teach people how to actually do podcast 394 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:52.519 and so that led to me creating e books. That to me creating courses, 395 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.480 led to me creating private communities, led to me creating, you know, 396 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:00.920 the ability to coach you on aspect of one time only or three, 397 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.480 you know, three moonth package, a sixmonth package. And when I would 398 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:07.519 do is I would run different ads and my show. So the first hour 399 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:12.200 running to my shows, actually inquiring and getting people to be a lague and 400 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.759 it's like hey, Yo, if you want to start a podcast, this 401 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.079 is where podcast is done for me. You know, grab my you know, 402 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:22.640 my free Ebook, the podcast start kid, and I just found so 403 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:26.839 many people who want to start a podcast and then they're already liking, listening 404 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.640 and trusting you and they're seeing what you're doing and they're saying how I'm moving, 405 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.799 you know, and then I would be able to say, okay, 406 00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:34.240 you've gotten the e book. Let's look at, you know, one of 407 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.200 these options, whether it is, you know, pay for script to pay 408 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:42.480 for Ebook, pay for course. You know, it's providing, you know, 409 00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:47.200 your audience were all the things that they already want from you. You 410 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.200 just I don't know you exist yet or have it to offer. So start 411 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.000 talking about it. A lot of times people say I want to brand deal, 412 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:56.039 I want a sponsorship, and they'll know they get a brand deal with 413 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:59.799 a company that makes no sense. Like you're a you're up here talking about 414 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:04.359 man scaping and you're a woman. Is like it's like funny, you know, 415 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.559 but it's like all right, he's telling the Manscaping, you know, 416 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.920 but in the day, like what's your all wine on that? You know, 417 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.599 it's a small, small chunk change, you know. So it's not 418 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:18.680 like a big deal you need. If anything, you might have, you 419 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.279 know, offending your audience. So you might even turn your audience off and 420 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:25.839 they're like me, I don't want to hit them more ads about x, 421 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:30.359 Y Z, you know. So then there's also the aspect of affiliate Archey, 422 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:34.799 where you can have someone on your show who you gave a spectaculate interview 423 00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:38.039 and you know what, we got a affiliate marketing with someone who has a 424 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:42.559 course, someone has a product to sale. You know, was very popular 425 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.799 as a podcast to you going to give them the best intew they can get 426 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:48.920 because the end of the day, at the very end, you don't have 427 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.880 everyone click that link in the show, those parts their course and you're gonna 428 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.799 get paid. You know. So soll me different, so many different ways, 429 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.200 man, but that was a one of the very first ways been making 430 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:06.400 a podcast security bag, and that's a lot different than other think I'm doing. 431 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:07.799 Yeah, man, I love that and I think it is one of 432 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.359 those things where I think it's a creator. It's, you know, because 433 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.640 you look at the title this episode, like left a, you know, 434 00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:18.440 six Fi. Good job to podcast, but it's just like anything else. 435 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:21.680 As a business owner, you walk into a store, they don't carry for 436 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:26.359 products like they carry a town of different products and services and offers and all 437 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.079 this kind of stuff, and so I think it's important as content creators we 438 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.599 realize that we, you know, it's not Billy Thorpe is not a one 439 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.839 trick pony sitting in front of his camera all day and getting, you know, 440 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:40.960 paid a salary, like I'm doing multiple shows, I'm working with brands, 441 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:42.319 doing brand deals, to an Amazon, you know, alive, all 442 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.720 that kind of stuff. And so yeah, man, I agree with you 443 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.160 on the you know, the first thing is sponsors should no. I've had 444 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.359 a really good, you know, luck or really good strategy. I like 445 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.319 to think of it a strategy because I actually thought threw before reaching out to 446 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.720 sponsors. But most podcasters I talked to they just don't have the same kniche 447 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:07.079 audience that I do in the opportunity to reach out to those super tight fit 448 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:11.359 partners more than more than sponsors. So I love that you brought it around 449 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:12.839 to say, Hey, figure out what you're good at in the because you're 450 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.000 in the process of creating a podcast. Now it's like, Oh, you 451 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:18.839 want to learn how to do that. Well, I have the skill set 452 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.440 because I just learned how to do it. I've done two hundred plus episodes. 453 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.960 Like to show you what I did to grow this thing absolutely. It's 454 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:29.559 I love that part, man, that you once again super self awareness to 455 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.400 figure out what are the goods, how can I offer them and how can 456 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:36.039 I package them up and sell them? So, man, thanks for saying 457 00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.599 that about about all that and it's the holy ecosystem, right. Are You 458 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:44.160 doing affiliate stuff and you're doing coaching, consulting, I mean you're you putting 459 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:48.519 all those into your basket and sell them? Yeah, absolutely, and all 460 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.119 those have different clientele. They're all different client out and you know, and 461 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.880 the cool thing about podcasting, podcasting has led me to now. You think 462 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.160 about all the different people that have been on my show, you know, 463 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:04.599 all the different celebrities, entrepreneurs, coaches, influencers, athletes. Now is 464 00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:08.000 leds to me represent them, you know, to the point where now I'm 465 00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.720 out here with the talent, I'm creating shows for them, I'm looking for 466 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:18.200 different ways so they can collaborate with other people. I'm producing high levels stuff, 467 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.359 you know, and that's what you know, that's where the real the 468 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:27.359 real bad, it's chatter is man. Yeah, yeah, they're real bag, 469 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:33.279 you know. But well, I like about as I'm continue continually evolving, 470 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.519 is that there's always something I have for you, depending no matter what 471 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.759 level you're at this because there's so many different people. You know, everyone 472 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.559 can yeah, feed that type of level. Yeah, I'll pay that type 473 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.759 of bag. But they could purchase the EBOOK. Yeah, you can get 474 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.400 start it. They get, they can make it work some things out to, 475 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.519 you know, buy that course now, they can work some things out 476 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.079 to, you know, one day save enough to have a no one on 477 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.720 one conversation with you, you know. And there's other people who can skip 478 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.559 the line and pay that out of the price. So I haven't options. 479 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.559 Is What's really been able to diversify my portfolio in terms of being able to 480 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.319 work with me. That's awesome. And so when you were when you were 481 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.119 kind of making this decision to leave corporate now, I know you talked about 482 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.720 leveraging that money. Well, everaging the money, leveraging the on paper taxes, 483 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.000 all that kind of stuff, to purchase these assets, such as a 484 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.799 home or a car or whatever, which I think is you know, my 485 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.839 wife and I did the same thing. Actually went from being an entrepreneur full 486 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.480 time to going back and working somewhere to make it home purchase. So I 487 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.960 kind of do it the not wrong way, but a different way. I 488 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:38.319 was like, Oh, wait to say it, I gotta we're going to 489 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:41.480 have all this stuff. It's is complicated. Let me just go get a 490 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.039 job for a year. I'll come back talk to you later. So I 491 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.920 love that. But now on the and then on the financial side of it, 492 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.480 you built it. was there a certain number where you like hey, 493 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.079 man, I want to double my salary, or like, how did you 494 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:57.839 make that goal? To say, all right, I'm going to put in 495 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.880 my my month notice, or to you know, for your position, I 496 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.920 mentioned, had to do more we could. I was already I was already 497 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.880 killing him and I was already even while I was working at that job, 498 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.319 I was already having five figured months. I just I was just was waiting 499 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:17.640 for the house to get built. Yeah, I was just at that point. 500 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.319 You know, at that point you just trying to maintain stay calm. 501 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:26.400 You just try to like anything cool, they smooth. I'm going anywhere. 502 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.880 What are you? I would like listen. Man, was so crazy. 503 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.880 I look back, did I was, I was traveling, I was about 504 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.440 to take my vacation time and I would I would take vacation time, and 505 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.200 it was come people that was that was hip. And I'll say vacation time 506 00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:41.839 and they'll get on the Internet. And I was at like like Gouna beach 507 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.680 and I was at like am I last house. Then I was at like 508 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.519 Miami. Lately, if people, people are smart, but I think sometimes 509 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.799 when you have a side hustle, you have something you're really working on and 510 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.720 you're in a job, there's always doubters. That's always people like what, 511 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:00.920 Hey, what are they doing? Just talking, but they don't see the 512 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.920 vision. And there's a few people who are very intelligent. Who knows? 513 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.240 Oh, it's only a matter of time, you know. For me, 514 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.240 that's what I was doing, you know, and I was, I know, 515 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.480 a lot of research to make that decision, and one of the best 516 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.920 things I ever discovered, which I'm so glad you said it. But you 517 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.200 realized it, but you realize that a look too late, you know, 518 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.160 I gotta go back. You know, I realized it and I was like, 519 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.720 I have to acquire this, I gotta acquire this, and then as 520 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:32.519 game and I just I't I'm out of here, you know. So I 521 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.960 was telling anyone that's listening, when you start to see that you are making 522 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.839 more money, right, you aren't putting in nowhere near the time, because 523 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.640 think a bottom. I'll talk about these five figure months. I'm gonna be 524 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:51.640 very clear. I was working on average fifty to fifty five hours a week. 525 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.880 I had one day a week. That one day week was Thursday. 526 00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.440 While I was off. And the funny thing about that is that people are 527 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:01.680 saying, well, how did you know your show was going to release on 528 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.640 Fridays? You know how I knew because I only had one day to work 529 00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:09.839 on Thursday, you know. So I did all my interviews Thursday, I 530 00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:15.759 did all of my all my editing on Thursday. You know. Everything came 531 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.880 down to Thursday, you know, and that's the reason why the show came 532 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.640 out on Friday. So after you know, spending, you know, the 533 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.400 time to effort, the gears, to sweat equity, and I'm like Yo, 534 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:29.359 if I'm doing all this with one day a week, I imagine when 535 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.359 I finally be able to get all of it. And we're at that point 536 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:35.839 now. Man, I love that. Man, I love that story, 537 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.240 that one. It shows consistency matters. You know, I think a lot 538 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.640 of people that's like a word we throw around in this industry of like at 539 00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.640 a consistently. You know, nobody really thinks about it, but do consistently 540 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:52.079 person who shows up every day or every week or whatever a lot of time 541 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.519 is on their schedule to show up and crush it like they win. They 542 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:58.599 win the bag. Every single time. I've seen it in every industry. 543 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.200 I've seen it with every kind ont a creator. I know the person who 544 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.960 shows up even when they don't want to, even when the AC is broken 545 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.640 and I'm just sweating all over the place. I knew that this was a 546 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.920 big opportunity for me to talk to you in a big opportunity for my audience 547 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.160 storm from him like, Dude, I got to show up, like I 548 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:16.839 don't care how hard it is, I don't care if they AC guys banging 549 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:22.240 in the next room. I got to show up because people are leaning on 550 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.559 this or counting on this kind of stuff. So, man, how important 551 00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.839 was that for you? I mean, I know you had one day. 552 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.480 You said You haven't missed an episode. Give a lot of credit to that 553 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:37.400 consistency for your for your victory so far. Yeah, absolutely, AIN'T gonna 554 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:42.240 get nowhere without consistency. I think that's that's one thing also to like whenever 555 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.480 I even had the thought like now, I don't know if I could do 556 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.160 this or man, I'm feel like I'm man, is it the time going 557 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:51.400 to slow down or what? A couple thanks as helped is that I would 558 00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.640 go back and I would remember a time where I released an episode of someone 559 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.799 told me. You know, that episode save my life. I'll go back 560 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:00.799 and I'll go back and I'll look at a review and I be like, 561 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.000 Damn, I needed to keep going. You know, a lot of houses 562 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.559 podcasters, you know, they're podcasting in caves, are not there, they're 563 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.960 not out in public and not seeing people. Say that rare, very rarely 564 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.239 see their influence and less they are like a conference was this two conscience over 565 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:20.320 the weekend and they very rarely see that influence. You know, in a 566 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.960 lot of times you will those. You go around the right places, people 567 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.440 say, Oh, I listen to your show. You like angle, listen 568 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.559 my show. Yeah, listen to your show. You know. Yeah, 569 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.679 it was that for you know, we go to we'll go to church and 570 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.360 I think nobody listening to something. I'd be like, Oh, by the 571 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.280 way, tell them you I listened to a show. Well, just chilling 572 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:45.159 in the house. Answer is tapping into the feedback, on the feedback that 573 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.960 I was given, and that's what's has got me to be consistent and put 574 00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.559 more stuff out. Yeah, I love that, dude, and I think 575 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.719 every podcaster, and here's the thing, especially, and I'm going to talk 576 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:58.000 about podcast, I know there's live streamers and artists and all that kind of 577 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.239 stuff, and musicians are listening, but I'm this is really across the board, 578 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.599 like that fills our cup as creators, like when somebody, probably more 579 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.079 than anything really, probably even more than I getting a check. It's like 580 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.119 somebody said Hey, man, that changed my life. Like in a similar 581 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:14.719 thing happened to me at a tackle shop when I got home from Puerto Rico. 582 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.039 I walked in, I was buying a something for my for my fly 583 00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.760 Rod, and this guy from across the room, which amen at to you, 584 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.679 what's you and I'm like looking around, who's this guy talking to? 585 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.920 And he's a no from the podcast. I'm like Oh, Hey, you 586 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.920 know, and it was. It threw me off. But when this guy 587 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:35.159 brought his phone out and starts showing me these fishy caught because of the people 588 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.840 that we bring on our show and is helping a guy fish like it in 589 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.039 the big scheme in the world it doesn't seem like that big of a deal, 590 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.519 but for him and his family it's like huge because now they're enjoying all 591 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:50.559 this family time on the water and it is those moments where I'm like wow, 592 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.679 man, like I didn't realize, you know, all this work and 593 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:58.159 energy is setting you up to have a better relationship with your family. So, 594 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.719 man, I'm with you, dude, Itt out wherever your community is, 595 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:05.800 wherever they might be hanging, and when you get that kind of feedback. 596 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.079 But also as creators, man, let's give that feedback. Let's create 597 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:13.440 that culture of leaving reviews and saying, Hey, this show changed my life 598 00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.000 and you know and whatnot, and like make it more public. That way 599 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.840 other people can, you know, be inspired by as well. So I 600 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.760 love that you share that, man, because I know a lot of podcasters 601 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.480 don't get it, and even myself, being new, toy it to you 602 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.280 was all the Tuy. It's crazy cool. It's like wow, let's chilling. 603 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.039 Yeah, it was pretty cool. I mean. Yeah, I mean, 604 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:37.000 it's not like people line up for my autograph, but one first it 605 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:38.519 was like, okay, that's fun. Keep doing it, man, you 606 00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:43.559 have you have enough juice to go for another year. Let's go. Yeah, 607 00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.679 they now, they don't know what you've been through. Down know how 608 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:46.840 hard has been, down, how long you've been doing it. They Don 609 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.960 Know How many times you probably second guess yourself and whether you're making an ampack 610 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.239 and for them to do that mean's lot. How many times you hit the 611 00:36:54.239 --> 00:37:00.119 record button on one episode just to jab absolutely, absolutely, or how many 612 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.119 times you didn't hit it, he just started talking. So so, Sean, 613 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.559 you do it all kinds of stuff, man. You're coaching people and 614 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.239 podcasting, you're you're helping people promote their brands and you're helping a lot of 615 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:16.079 entrepreneurs promote through podcasting and through different creative fields. Out of all the stuff 616 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:19.440 that you do, man, what's the like, the thing that you love 617 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.719 the most, because I know all of us do stuff we love and stuff 618 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.119 we don't, but what's the one thing that you like? I can't wait 619 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:30.519 to do this this week. Yeah, man, I'll tell you. I 620 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:37.280 like moving. I like movement, I like actually going places. You know, 621 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:42.400 that's stuff I enjoy. I also like the introductions and connecting people with 622 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.000 life changing, like life changing stuff for them in their business. Of the 623 00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:51.000 our wise really big. That that's what excites me, you know, and 624 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:55.400 being the the mover and shake it, the person that like behind the scenes 625 00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.280 that really is orchestrating this is important to me and I like that a lot. 626 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.840 I like that more than probably anything, because it's almost like a magician 627 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.320 because you know what's about to happen, all right. Yeah, and so 628 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.440 to me, that's that's why I enjoy now and it excites me. It 629 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.559 comes with a lot of the benefits to beyond just money, but it comes 630 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:22.360 with seeing the world, seeing the world and in different van, different view 631 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.079 of different Lens, you know, different than you know putting on your outfit 632 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:29.559 and going the clock in at that job, but you hate and making sure 633 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.159 things a price correctly, and nobody cares about that stuff in life. Yeah, 634 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.559 you know it not that I'm actually out of that world. Like nobody 635 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:42.039 cares about that stuff in life. They would. They want, they know 636 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.000 what they want. They want it. Have you can give it to him. 637 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:46.280 If you give it to him in a very polite way with great, 638 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:51.239 excellent customer service, then you're probably getting back as a guess. But they 639 00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.760 aren't at home. A customer isn't at home thinking about that. Did the 640 00:38:53.800 --> 00:39:00.800 mannequins get changed today? They're not at home wondering. did new shorts come 641 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.320 off the truck? Yeah, they're not that. They're not at there. 642 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.199 They're not at home wondering. You know, it has the has a front 643 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.480 end of the building. been taken care of an the law properly. That 644 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.840 stuff doesn't matter in life. You know it is for me now. What 645 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:22.360 matters in life is impact. Matters in life is, you know, really 646 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:28.159 giving people insight. A matters in life, is really showing people what's possible. 647 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.400 You know, hopefully I'm doing that every day. Yeah, man, 648 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.760 well, I definitely think you are and I love what you're doing, man. 649 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.119 That's why won't you, you know, on the show today and, 650 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:39.920 like I said, I'm grateful that clubhouse was booming. I'm grateful that you 651 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.280 and I were on that platform together. I know we live in the same 652 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:45.800 state, actually, probably just a couple hours away from each other. So 653 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.400 we need to do it IRLS, all the cool kids are calling it. 654 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:52.480 Yeah, so old man, and were that mean? In real life? 655 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.239 Yeah, in real life, okay, good, ha ha. Yeah, 656 00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.400 we in real life meeting in and hang out. But man, so last 657 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:05.400 question here is how can people get in touch with you? How can they 658 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:08.719 find you? The fasts? I know I got your your instagram handle here, 659 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:10.519 which is, by the way, if people can't read that, it's 660 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.039 Shawn our anthony. Make sure you put that are in the middle there. 661 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.559 So yeah, sean are Anthony Underscore for that part by a shot, a 662 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:24.199 sean our anthony. On this score. There is there's so many men. 663 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:30.320 One thing about when you're excelling life, the box come out and people great 664 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:37.679 fake pages. So make sure you finally ask Anthony Underscore, listen to podcast 665 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.360 schools over now what you're going to be, you know, just mobbling with 666 00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:45.280 the amount of people we've had on the show, from Grammy Award winners like 667 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.280 a steal, to be honest. He's Dad. Matthew knows. We've already 668 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.360 talked about D and grant all those guys. But there's so many powerful, 669 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:58.760 impactful people telling their stories, giving you the absolute recipe on what they did 670 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.760 to figure out life, and I hope you guys enjoy it. Yeah, 671 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:05.400 man, awesome new will, Sean. I appreciate you. Man. I'M 672 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.840 gonna have to have you back on everybody. You know, the question everyone 673 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.639 always asks me is like should I have slipperties on my show? And then 674 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.159 how do I get them on my show? And I'm like, I have 675 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.760 I don't have the answer to either one of those because I've never I've had 676 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:17.639 one celebrity on my show and, like you know, all these years of 677 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.599 podcasting, so we'll have to bring you back on and maybe we can dive 678 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:28.320 more into some strategies of different aspects of creatorship and podcasting and that kind of 679 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.239 stuff. So be cool. Absolutely, Man, was a pleasure of being 680 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.000 here and guys that always let me remember like just dream it, believe it, 681 00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.239 go out and get it, dream and believe it. Go on, 682 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:38.239 get a man. I love it, Sean. We'll talk to you soon, 683 00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:40.960 man. Thank you so much for jumping on the show and, like 684 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.840 I said, we'll talk to you soon and you guys go be sure to 685 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.320 follow Shan. And he is literally, and I know I've been seeing this 686 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.119 praises throughout this episode, but literally one of the most real guys I've met. 687 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.159 You know, you can really tell a lot about a person by their 688 00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:59.760 presentation, by their voice. This is literally the first time we've seen each 689 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.039 other face to face, virtually, and he is the real deal. He's 690 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.559 the real McCoy. He's going out there, he's doing the work, he's 691 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.800 taking the action and you want to follow people like that. Similar to what 692 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:12.920 we're saying earlier, there might be people in your circle who are saying, 693 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.320 I don't know if you can really do it. I don't know. Maybe 694 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:16.719 that guy can do it, but maybe you can't, and you want US 695 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.280 surround yourself with people like Sean who are saying, Hey, you can do 696 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.440 it, let me show you how. Let me show you the way it 697 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.599 worked for me, and you take it, pieces of that journey and see 698 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.119 if they'll work for you as well. So be sure to go follow Shan. 699 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.159 I'm going to post all his information here in the show notes and that 700 00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.119 way you can go follow him and join me tomorrow. I'm not really sure 701 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:38.519 what I'm doing. Once again I've been in transition mode. I'm in the 702 00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:44.800 studio space at just some Amazon live stuff yesterday, but I'll be back tomorrow 703 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:47.519 at two PM Eastern time. It's a surprise. Right now. Maybe I 704 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.760 get a surprised guest on, who knows, or I might just hang out 705 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.800 and do some more studio work and show you guys what I'm working on, 706 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:59.039 because I got all different stuff. Man, I switch out cameras and all 707 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:00.960 kinds of stuff. So I'm being a little nerd over here trying to figure 708 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.440 it all out. But until then, go create something great, go hit 709 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.119 that record button, hit that go live button and don't listen to the lies 710 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:13.320 of your own mind or that of the mouth of other people, and go 711 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.000 change the world with your message, because that's why we do all of this, 712 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.920 is because your message matters, and if you feel like you gotta share 713 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.440 it, then go share it. We'll see you tomorrow. To be M 714 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:45.320 Eastern, I