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Here's we all really like. You're
listening to creating daily. There's something wrong
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with you. You know that because
you and I are like a mullets.
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It is the is the business.
So he's the front part of the haircut
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and then I'm the party in the
back. I think they're hilarious. Speaks
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to me. It's like he's saying
what I'm thinking. All right, there
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we go. It's a live show. I don't know where the hell them
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you button is, but I'm excited
to be live right now with my friends
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nick and Sam. I'm going to
bring them on in just a moment.
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There from over a bullhorn. And
so today we're going to be talking about
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what is bullhorn and why is it
going to be useful for podcasters and why
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is it become easily one of my
favorite platforms. So if you're joining me
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over here on club house, really
appreciate you. I see John, I
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see me. If you're ever here
on the bull for Bull Horn Platform,
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I appreciate you as well. And
then anywhere else you're watching, youtube,
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twitch, facebook. That's it.
I think it's all. I think this
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all the places. So got a
really fun show lined up for you today
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in hopefully all the tech is work
and let me know if it's not,
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because you know, you get over
here with some APP developers and you start
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testing stuff out and you're like hey, will check this out. What about
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this? What about that? How
can I run my whole brain and put
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it into my road cast and put
it on here so I don't have to
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think for myself and it starts getting
all messy and then I screw stuff up.
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So I think we got it though. So I'm pretty excited about that
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and appreciate everybody jumping in. So
I'll kind of rip through a couple of
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segments. It's here, and then
we'll bring the guys on and we'll start
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talking about we'll start talk about bullhorn. So appreciate it and if your overun
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clubhouse, really appreciate you guys jumping
on and picking some people in the room.
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It's a new club that I'm building, so I usually run this in
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a different club. But before we
jump into it, let's talk about a
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little creator highlights segment. Then,
if I remember correctly, here we go.
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This is Jonathan Gabby of the marketing
distilled podcast. Just relaunched this podcast,
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redid all the artwork, all that
fun stuff, and so give a
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little shout out to Jonathan. If
you're into marketing, you want to know
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more about it, be sure to
reach out to him. This is what
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we're just what creating daily is all
about, is highlighting other creators and helping
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each other on this path of creatorship
and all that fun stuff. And,
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by the way, this brought you
by one sheet. One. She is
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the Little Crabby pdf away that you
have, because once she is going to
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be your Goto when you're trying to
get booked on more shows. It's a
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literally just a creator. I don't
know press kit. So just send them
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your link to your website and go
check mine out. It's on my instagram.
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Follow me while you're over there and
then you can do that as well.
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So really, really appreciate you guys
doing that. And my friend Brent
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is going to be on the show
next Tuesday, so be sure to come
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next Tuesday to learn how you can
show up just like a pro. All
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right, now let's talk about a
little bit of news here. That's news
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to me. Creating daily, man, I love those stingers. I can
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get a little drink of water,
I can do the thing. So some
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news. I'm going to keep this
one pretty quick, but we got ekam
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live. I'm using e Cam actually
in this live stream right now in this
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video, and they just release their
three dot ten release and I've been taking
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for a test drive for a couple
of weeks. I've been in the batty
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group but I hadn't really been doing
it very much and I took it for
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a test drive and all you know, wow, it's all I got to
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say. It's wow. They get
some really cool stuff over there. One
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of the things that's notably mentioned is
the virtual microphone. So if you've been
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using Ekam to any extent in the
you know you're like a, this sucks
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that can't bring an audio from Ekm. You can now do that. It
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is a little tricky, though,
and you get to figure that out when
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you're working with other apps of how
all that stuff will work. So it
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is a little bit of a game
changer. And now maybe I can get
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rid of my road caster because I
can do all the sound effects or Kim
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or maybe not. All right.
So now enough of my news, bad
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jokes and bull crap. I'm going
to bring on Nick and Sam over here
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from the Bullhorn Platform. By the
way, if you're over on Bull Horn.
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Say Hello, big show. Brandon
is in the house. I appreciate
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your Brandon, for jumping in being
a supportive of the crew and myself.
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All right, so here we go. Now we're going to we're going to
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swap over and it's what these guys
are up to. What's going on,
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Nick Sam, just one second,
don't talk, because I got your mic
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muted. Hold on, there we
go. Now you can talk. Now
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you can talk about that. Well, you go on, guys. It's
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good. It's good. Happy Friday. Happy to be on the show,
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seeing your little set up with all
the that. The drink. Iout drink
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a sip of water. Button really
enjoy that. But yeah, this is
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cool. I'm at to you quite
I can't, can't wipe the spile off
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my face. This is very,
very cool. Yeah, man, this
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is this is pretty fun, Dude. So I nerd out on all this
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kind of stuff. And if you're
watching this and you're like, what are
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you guys talking about? Where you
were's bullhorn out. I put a link
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somewhere near the we're if you're watching
on facebook or youtube or twitch or wherever,
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there should be a link. Pretty
well, maybe not on twitch,
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but anywhere else pretty close by,
and then I'm actually going to link it
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over here in clubhouse. So so, nick, what's going on? Man?
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I give you a chance to talk
to them. I'm excited. I'm
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drinking bubbly water, which is a
huge live mistake. But if I beltry
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apologize, you're good. Now we
doing to day billy. There we go.
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It's a drink I was telling you
about. Yeah, I mean I'm
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doing a turn the MIC on US
whenever you drink now. Yeah, we're
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we're super excited to be on the
show. Kind of share with your audience
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what bull horns up to. I
know they might be a little hesitant or
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resistant to it, considering, you
know, you guys creators have so many
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platforms, but we really believe we
got something here that's kind of, kind
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of really helpful for the Indie podcast
cast especially, kind of ties in everything
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together and actually helps them kind of
create new interactive content. But I'm getting
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a little ahead of myself. I
don't know if you have any questions,
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but I can go ahead and dive
into Bull Horn to anyone that's new on
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the platform or new to this show
here and US right now. Yeah,
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man, so I wanted to.
I want to ask you guys one thing,
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and I think Sam, you've been
there with Bull Horn from the beginning.
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So there's a bunch of podcast platforms
out there right. So there's,
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you know, and more now probably
than ever, obviously, since it's become
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a popular thing, maybe due to
some famous people getting bought out and all
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that kind of stuff. But what? When? When did the company START?
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What you're to start? Like two
thousand? Yeah, tea. Yeah,
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so two thousand and seventeen was the
kind of inception of Bull Horn.
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It was much different than it is
and its current state. So our parent
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company is carryer x and it works
in the Telcom Space and one of the
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kind of use cases where people were
using our services were was radio stations.
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International radio stations needed US phone numbers
so they're listeners could dial into. So
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that's where we kind of started with
audio content. So we kind of did
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like a natural bridge where like hey, you know, podcastings up and coming,
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why don't we just attach a bunch
of phone numbers of podcasting? We
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did that in radio. Let's just
see and check it out. We didn't
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really put too much intention behind it. We just kind of like put it
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out there see what would happen and
slowly but surely we came became more ingrained
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into kind of the podcast atmosphere.
We were at first kind of just a
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listening APP and then we as we
talked to more podcasters, we really kind
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of start to understand their problems a
little bit more right and one of the
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biggest ones was hey, you know, I don't necessarily know my listeners that
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well or I'm not really engaging with
them. And to that that meant that,
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like, podcasting is essentially just a
one way street. Right, you're
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putting out audio to many people,
but you're digesting it on you know,
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they say like the smartphone, it
has more computing power than like the Apollo
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mission, but yet still we're just
listening to prerecorded audio. So we kind
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of got together. We're like,
you know what, let's let's take a
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hack of it. Let's try to
make podcasting a two way street and have
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a video in thereat and and interactive
optionality behind it. So that's kind of
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like the quick kind of history of
bullhorn and that's where we would ride that
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today gotchy. So I'm sorry to
interrupt you. I'm not yes, some
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people on Bullhorn saying they can't hear
you. Guys. No sound from Salmon
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Nick's end. However, I'm getting
sound from you and we're doing something.
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You want the Bull Horn side and
you're getting sound from me. So I'm
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just going to double with check to
see if we're getting sound from you.
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Interesting. Are you getting sound for
me? Is it just through ECAM?
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Is it going everywhere else too?
I should be. Let me, let
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me dotubble check here. Okay,
so that's what you do on a live
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show, guys. He's test UFF. It's yeah, it's what I normally
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do. Anyway. Sold on.
Let me let me fast forward this.
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I know we had it for a
minute there. I think it might just
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becoming okay, so it's on facebook
side. So I think. I think
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I'm getting some comments over here.
So let me just still book check.
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Okay, yeah, in the words, if I can find it, their
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problem. Yeah, okay, cool. So what's good, billy from Chris
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Stone? What's up, Chris?
Could to see him? Man, and
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my friend brant says sound in facebook. So we're going to facebook world.
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So must be interesting. I don't
know. I don't know why they wouldn't
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be able to hear you and not
me. Interesting my guests would be and
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I don't know, we might have
to test his. It might just be
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coming through your head the Bull Horn
audio might just be coming through or the
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ECAM are ekam audios, I coming
to you and your system in your headphones,
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but not triggering out there trickling out
the bullhorn. Maybe smorrow? Maybe
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so. So, maybe that would
be weird. Huh? Maybe so.
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Yeah, I don't know how to
fix it. Paul, will happening.
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Block Austin Dia Grahams on the White
Board and see you, because Ye happen.
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Hours back and forth and seeing whether
it is all about. But Yeah,
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besides, did you guys just over
dubbed the Bullhorn Show? What's to
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Redo it and the guys can just
talk over it and we can put it
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back out there. Good. Yeah, all right, yeah, we'll do
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it in different people's voices, create
creeer on subtitles. Yeah, yeah,
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right, all right, my so, so let's jump into bullhorn. Unfortunately
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it's not working on bullhorn. So
I'm going to I'm going to dive on
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Bullhorn. I don't see any reason
of putting that out there. So apologize,
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but we can we can test after
a call and see. So,
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man, let's get back into so
you guys originally start out in the radio
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thing. Is kind of like a
call in service. Is that kind of
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what it was? And now you're
you're like, oh, hey, let's
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do some stuff for podcasters and and
then we're yeah, from there. Yeah,
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yeah, so the the kind of
inception of it was, hey,
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you know, there's a lot of
radio stations internationally that needed to be broadcast
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in the US and if you weren't
like, obviously you can't pick up that
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radio signal in your car. Right. So you can do Internet radio and
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streaming, but there is kind of
like that early teens, like the two
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thousand teens, I don't know what
you call that decade. There is still
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data limits and datacaps right, and
it was there was a large immigrant population
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United States that still wanted to listen
to the radios back home. So we
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started attaching phone numbers who have went
to the radios and we work with some
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pretty cool organizations like, I believe
it was Zeno Radio and like audio now
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and a few other ones since.
So we are basically broadcasting international content or
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in the national radio content through US
phone numbers in the super cool. A
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lot of people really liked it and
there was kind of like some very clunky
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like Ibr or like touch touch tone
commands on that, like you could skip
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from radio station the radio station,
I rewind and things like that, but
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it was very, very clunky at
a certain point. And then so,
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you know, as the kind of
natural progression happened, everyone was like hey,
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you guys should check out podcasting if
you're doing so much stuff with like
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Internet radio. So then we didn't
take like our first step. was just
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kind of like okay, let's check
it out and we dropped in some phone
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numbers on some podcasting didn't really pick
up. You know, every podcaster was
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excited about it, like Oh yeah, I get the fun. Younger like
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you know, you know how podcasters
are there, like if you can,
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you're going to put my content into
more places, like absolutely. Yeah.
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So initially, like I mean,
we got a lot of positive response from
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it and we were working with a
lot of Indie podcasters and that's kind of
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what bullhorns about. We're also,
you know, we're a small company,
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so we're mainly focused on like Indie
podcasters. But yeah, that was like
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our first kind of like dip into
it. We didn't really you know,
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know what we were doing. It
was kind of like a little off shot
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and I think it was like,
you know, the URL was all wrong
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and stuff like that. We move
to like bull horned ot FM stuff like
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that. So it was really cool
being part of like the because back then,
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in like two thousand and seventeen,
podcasting was really like the wild wild
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west. You know, it's kind
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you got players like spotify on Amazon
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platforms and things like that, but
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hot industry podcasting. It's just getting
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developing new APPS and and you know, it's always funny to make this joke.
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It's like if you started podcasting in
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lot of people have like a chip
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you mentioned spotify, you mentioned club
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starts taking up some market share.
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that we've been sitting on, this
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we got to figure out how to
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it's cool that you have companies like
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saying hey, where you want to
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serve these indie podcasters, and it's
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haven't, but I was telling somebody
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these guys. I'm again, man, I hope these guys freaking plow through
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community of Podcasters, while everyone else
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figure that out, but the the
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we are here for the Indie podcaster. We do want to provide unique
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features that no one else is thinking
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on it. Nick shows me a
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into some of those features that you
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yes, do way more than live
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little bit now before I do that. Is it fair to say that Bull
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audio? Is that like a like
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would be your thirty second pitch.
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video or visual. So visual just
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that. We'll get in that in
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channels. Right, okay, so
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I love the Indian community. I
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a lot of companies that come in
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independent and free ness of like that
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because I don't want them to be
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and they, they and that's I
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they've probably seen so many companies come
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makes sense. Yeah, and it
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right or it has worked to a
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need to be a billion dollar company. But what we're trying to do is
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these podcasters and actually take their content
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can create on Bullhorn, right,
you can create poles, you can create
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images, you can turn on your
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don't want to kind of locked you
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in like our walled garden. Right. The best place for your listeners to
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or your audience to actually interact with
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get access to all these poles,
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in is actually the cool this one
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of your show and contributing audio to
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but there's video, right, and
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the best place to consume that is
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engagement aspect of and I think I've
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of research on podcasting and this is
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is discoverability. How do I get
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found, when when my audience finds
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the other day. I'm like yeah, but it's like a different experience because
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you stuff is like divide it up, like there's a chat box, there's
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a questions box, there's the call
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then also on the drop, on
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side of don't know what else you
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but I can put up the pole
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fruity pebbles? Are you like,
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cookies or whatever it is, and
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most impressed about, and just dragging
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timeline, which I thought was pretty
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that before? Or was it did
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they go, man, I'm still
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increase this interaction? Yeah, that's
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biggest problems are as with podcasters that
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our hey, we want to know our
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audience a little bit better. Right, podcasting stats and then all the likes
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my specific episode? Right, you
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people consume it and you don't really
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week later. And if they want
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week, right, they got to
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that. And then the other thing, that other problem that we're solving is,
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you know, like let's say you
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minutes, but if you're interacting with
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that those shows actually go on for
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a like a hunting podcaster, right, and he goes, he they talks
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about stuff for thirty minutes, but
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hours. Right. So it's you're
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about the live aspect one. You
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like this sense of urgency that my
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going live similar to this today,
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stuffs breaking all over the place.
I can't get it together and you just
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have to keep moving. You just
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which for some podcasters like a nightmare. For me, and I guess too,
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man, like what I love is
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multi creators. Like, sure,
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live streamer, do some video,
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video production stuff, and I'm using
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interact, you know, a coach
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and I can be multiple places,
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platforms. And that's one thing that
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well. It's send people to facebook
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link up those accounts. So so, man, what is it? Is
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that the hunting show you talked about? Is that the most popular show on
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kind of brought on and they can
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host, Luke, he's a very
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content. A little are rated sometimes. They usually just just a little graphic
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yeah, that that you can go
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drinking. So it's great. He
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smaller podcaster, but he records all
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kind of does the live episodes and
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his rss feed after the fact,
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that we want to do right.
We don't want to keep any of the
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content in like the Bullhorn Walt Garden. We want to just let you kind
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of be exclusive with that. But
he's an interesting use case because he started
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off and he would get like a
couple wives, but as he would kind
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of or excume me, a couple
live listeners, but as he would kind
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of keep doing it and keep pushing
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hundred people on each of his live
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see that as a use case and he's
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kind of become almost like a like
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podcast so now we have a few
other outdoor podcasts that just go live on
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Bull Horn because he does it.
So he's almost creating like this. He's
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get Gotcha. Yeah, it's great
to see. And I want to touch
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on what you talked about with like
the live and I get why some creators
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are hesitant to go live. It
does expose you and you are kind of
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vulnerable and we totally like understand that. So like Bull Horn can still be
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used as almost like a free river
side fm where you can just come in,
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you can record remotely, similar to
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just record audio and video and use
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to go live on bullhorn to to
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Okay, got your man. So
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mode? Is that where that would
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for podcast movement were releasing some succiting
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mode just we originally designed that to
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there or you could like test out
the bullhorn product. Right. We you
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know, working in the Tech Company
internally, you have certain terms that you
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use and you realize those terms don't
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Right. So we're actually breaking that
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and it be called private mode.
That should be there should be recording mode
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and there should be a test mode. So that's kind of what we're breaking
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into for podcast movement, kind of
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we're super excited to share. And
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the next podcast movement out in Dallas, we're actually have a really exciting feature
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coming out that allows so for podcasters
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want to have that live interaction,
we're actually allowing them to actually upload the
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file the bullhorn, whether it's audio
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you know, trying to create the
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it created but still have their listeners
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of sit behind on the DASH board. So it's almost like a fake I've
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or I like to call it like
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sens the red carpet. You get
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content, but you're live but your
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very like polished and edited. Yeah, man, that's pretty cool. That's
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going to be a pretty cool feature
soul. That stuff rolls out in April.
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speak on any of that, cool. If it's still like behind closed doors,
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no problem, no, no,
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on it. So our cohost feature, which count it a little hiccup just
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a second ago. That'll be out. And then just to dashboard, is
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just being like kind of like having
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brought on some great designers here at
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and we're, you know, a
lot of people have like a lot of
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that ownership and pride and this product. So it's just getting better better and
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every day it's you know, puts
a smile on my face to see where
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it's going. So we got some
new stuff coming for podcast movement terms of
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cosmetic up grades and the like,
that recording feature as well. Okay,
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Gotcha. So so my friend knee
over here in club house. He says,
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how about the mobile APP? So
that's a good question. Is So
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I've been going live from my desktop
or laptop. Is there any plans to
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be able to go live straight from
mobiles and worked like Instagram or any of
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the or like Amazon live, for
instance, any of those platforms? Yeah,
417
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so that is on the road map. is a little farther out.
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We really want to focus on the
creators that are using kind of like their
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studio and they're set up first and
then push two kind of the more casual
420
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from the phone. There is a
way to still contribute and that to the
421
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work with live episodes, right.
You can as a listener, you can
422
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call in to live episodes from the
mobile APP. The mobile APP really,
423
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though, is it's a Podcatcher,
right, which is kind of cool.
424
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So, and this is why bull
horns really specifically meant for podcasters. Any
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creator can go ahead and use it, but podcasters especially, they have an
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advantage because their contents already on bull
horn. So instead of creating like,
427
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you know, a new youtube channel
or new facebook profile or twitch channel,
428
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you can just roll up to bull
horn be like hey, creating from money
429
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for money. That's my podcast,
boom. And then you're making content around
430
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like already, like next to your
existing rss feed content, so you don't
431
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have to create like a new person
or anything like that. So so,
432
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man, I know when you do, when you're when you're doing. You
433
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have because because I'm a user,
obviously, so I've been on that long.
434
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So I'm still learning it. But
I have an RSS feed, I
435
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:25.759
have a bullhorn feed in if I
go live on Bullhorn that I upload this
436
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to the RSS feed, it doubles
up in the bullhorn APP. Is that
437
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.200
is there going to be kind of
a toggle on and off switch or something
438
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where I can say, oh,
man, in for Bullhorn, I want
439
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.119
the bullhorn thing, but then I
want I want to be able to put
440
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.759
it out everywhere else, that having
the double up and Bull Horn. Yeah,
441
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.880
there is that optionality where they can, you know, you can,
442
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.799
you you will be able to hide
one, right. I know podcasters are
443
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very sensitive with their RSS feed.
So that's something that's done manually. We
444
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don't automatically. All right, got
you that. Yeah, we didn't want
445
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them to say like Oh, Hey, this episode is a duplicate. You
446
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.039
know, hide it from the platform. I we can we can get into
447
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.720
some trouble. I can already see
the supporting emails coming in. Oh Oh,
448
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.640
yeah, about that one, but
I don't want to deal with that
449
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:15.119
many supporting thols. I'll deal with
the necessary. Yeah, so that's still
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like a manual button right now.
But yeah, for the way it sits
451
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right now as because I with because
I also have a podcast myself that I
452
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started in like November. I think
back when we did the contest. How
453
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.119
many episodes are we are right now? I think I just did my twenty
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for or I just scheduled my twenty
four for Tuesday. Some teas and what's
455
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the name of it? Already come
on. So I kind of just changed
456
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.440
the name. We went through a
little bit of rebranding. It's called outdoor
457
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.480
divisions. Okay, cool. Grew
up in southern California. I Surf,
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00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.799
scape, snowboard, all that kind
of fun stuff, but then I also
459
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.400
love to off road in camp that
I am trying to kind of create a
460
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:02.119
brand around. But yeah, like
I was saying, the way it's it's
461
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:06.480
kind in the bullhorn APP as as
of now is both episodes will show up,
462
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.319
like Sam was saying, but the
one that's published on Bullhorn has this
463
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little interactive stamp next to the title
of the episode, so you can kind
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of easily see which one is going
to be the bullhorn and all the interactive
465
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.720
stuff and which one's the R ass
and is a little bit more traditional,
466
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.839
I guess. Okay, very cool. Yeah, man, I'll like that.
467
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.359
So now, as far as like
creators, because I know you know
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pro probably, like any APP,
you want more creators to come on.
469
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Is there any basil or types of
content or categories that you're really like?
470
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Man, if a creators listen to
this, it's in the dog category.
471
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We want you guys come over and
check out platform. Is there? Do
472
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you guys like kind of keutality of
you know what that looks like? Are
473
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you trying to diversifires? It matter
really? Yeah, I can start with
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the content that's been a little more
challenging or the creators that's been a little
475
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more challenging for us to bring on
kind of prove the use case to is
476
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.440
the ones that have like highly edited
storytelling, right. So I can't yeah,
477
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.440
serial podcast right, very produced stuff. Yeah, well, I wouldn't
478
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.799
say necessarily like produced, but like
yeah, like it's where it's almost like
479
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:21.839
a crafted story with like voice actors, right, that one's it's a little
480
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.880
tough to convince them to go live
with that content. So that's why we
481
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have that premiere feature where they can
actually have hey, you know, you're
482
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.559
actually a kind of doing like a
fake red, red carpet roll out for
483
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.880
the episode and people are joining live. That's the good use case for them,
484
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:45.200
but we're seeing so we're actually working
with there's actually a super cool podcast
485
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.799
similar to that wh I just talked
about, like the storytelling aspect, called
486
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:53.240
solar. It's produced by KURTC media
over here in Malibu and instead of,
487
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.440
you know, going live with that
content, what they're doing is they're actually
488
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having kind of like talk to the
characters post shows, right. So,
489
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:06.000
God, you're like behind the game
of thrones stuff. Yeah, where it's
490
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like a talk, you know,
have discussions. Where do you think the
491
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:13.200
episode is going to go next week, stuff like that. So there's really
492
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it really like if people are kind
of hesitant to on it, I just
493
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.400
want to think like what their fans
neither how they want to interact with their
494
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.519
audience, and that's what bullhorns all
about is and that you actually interacting with
495
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:30.039
your audience if you want to have
that kind of deeper community connection. Yeah,
496
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.039
man, I like the I like
that fault process of like hey,
497
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this doesn't have to be the this
doesn't have to be the meeting potatoes.
498
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.240
It can be like the dessert.
You know. It's like yes, hey,
499
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:43.119
hey, listen our podcast, but
then come over on bull horn check
500
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.720
us out for the after show or
check us, you know, like the
501
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next day or something like that.
And I see people using clubhouse like this.
502
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.160
or my either my three year olds
or my dog always wants to be
503
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.240
a part of the the live stream. So, but I see clubhouse being
504
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.160
used like that. And I did
that the other day because I'm I I'm
505
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.039
streaming to clubhouse, while I'm streaming
to bullhorn, while I'm streaming to the
506
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.680
rest of the places, and then
I will shut off bullhorn, I'll show
507
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.599
off the video and I'll just kind
of hang out in clubhouse for a little
508
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.079
bit and kind of talk, you
know, talk to everybody over there.
509
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.119
Whatever it's like, you know,
because I just feel like that platform is
510
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geared to hey, bring people up, talk to them, all that kind
511
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.119
of stuff, versus hey, I'm
talking to the camera, or the three
512
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.160
of us are talking to the camera, talking to the audience. Who's WHO's
513
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.000
listening for the live stream. So, man, that's a really cool use
514
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.400
case that, you know, creators
could think about as well. It's like
515
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:37.440
how do I make this like the
engaging platform? I love that idea.
516
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.759
That's a good concept. They're yeah, yeah, and that's that's kind of
517
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what it's all about. You know, we just want to give any,
518
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.960
any creators, the ability to be
creative, right, and that's what's funny,
519
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.759
like I swear like every every month
we we kind of stumble into a
520
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.000
new other use case. Is someone
being like Hey, can I use it
521
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.680
for this? I'm like yeah,
you definitely, can you try it out?
522
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.319
There's like another example. We're talking
to like a kind of how they
523
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.440
describe them, they're kind of like
a like a small netflix where they have
524
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:12.480
like TV shows and the movies they
create. They're like, Oh yeah,
525
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.000
we have our own subscription base of
like Twentyzero fans. We want to be
526
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.960
able to actually hold post shows with
them. So, like we have our
527
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highly addited content that goes out on
our platform and we're looking to have interactive
528
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.679
content like talk to them. Where
can we do that? So we're actually
529
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.639
talking to them about that too.
So it's really cool where people are starting
530
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.400
to kind of understand, you know, especially kind of post covid world.
531
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.039
You know, I don't think every
everyone wants to go back to the in
532
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:42.119
person events and everything like that,
but I think still having that virtual interaction
533
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.079
is here to stay and Bull Horn's
kind of looking the foster that freighty creators.
534
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.440
Yeah, man, I love it. I think you guys got a
535
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.400
lot of cool stuff going on over
there and if anybody is listening that's a
536
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.679
creator, and probably my audience,
you're some type of creator. Be Sure
537
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.760
to reach out to bullhorn and reach
out to nick and get a demo,
538
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.119
because because I saw it, I
signed up. I was like Oh,
539
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.880
cool, cool, whatever, but
then I really didn't get it until I
540
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.760
saw that demo. So, Nick, how can they reach out to you
541
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.400
for the demo? And then I
want to actually talk about another thing that
542
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.079
I get asked a lot about and
we'll kind of wrap up the show with
543
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.719
that talk. But go go for
Nick having in touch with you to book
544
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:25.199
a demo. Honestly, the support
at Bullhorn DOT FM email would probably just
545
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.000
be the easiest one. All those
could filter through me anyways. So I'll
546
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.320
see those and then all be kind
of the first respond and work with whoever
547
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.280
it is to kind of get some
scheduled. And it also hit us up
548
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:44.039
on social too. Yeah, our
twitter is a lot of fun. We're
549
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.880
small, we're not we're not as
big as some of the other twitter personalities
550
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.920
out there, but dmings on social
goes. You know, great, we'll
551
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.480
give you a follow back, start
interacting with you. It's great stuff.
552
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.000
All right, cool man. Now
the last kind of bit of the show,
553
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.360
when to get into here in the
really the last question when dive in
554
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.519
it, which is a question I
get asked all the time, is how
555
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.639
do we make money with my podcast? And I was surprised to learn that
556
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:13.280
bullhorn was a free platform, but
also as a monetization aspect to it as
557
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.079
well. So can you guys dive
in share a little bit? How can
558
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:21.480
these poor podcasters make a little bit
of money on Bullard? Yeah, absolutely
559
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.440
so. Our our mentality again is
for the Creator. If you're not making
560
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.639
money, we're not making money.
That's kind of where Bull Horn lies.
561
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:35.519
So to use the platform, to
sign up, to actually go live and
562
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:40.239
use all the features, it's completely
free, so that that's something nice.
563
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:44.199
Now the catch, now there's not
really a catch, is like, Hey,
564
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.800
if you actually want to start making
money and create a subscription similar to
565
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:51.519
something you know, like Patreon,
you can actually take any of the features
566
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.679
that Bull Horn offers you, whether
that be the collins, right, the
567
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.639
chats, the questions, even the
images, right, or like the live
568
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:04.480
video. If you want to put
any of that behind the pay wall and
569
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.760
put the subscription price on that,
you can. Now they have to your
570
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.480
your audience has to subscribe to that
through the mobile APP. Right. They
571
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.199
would have to get download the mobile
APP and say, Hey, I subscribe.
572
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:21.480
And then after the Apple fifteen percent
cut, or a fifteen or thirty
573
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.639
percent. It depends on like the
year. I think. I think it's
574
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:29.760
the second year, is fifteen.
Anyway, semantics, after that apple cut
575
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:35.840
you get eighty percent of all the
eighty or eighty five. I think it's
576
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.000
eighty five and eighty five. So
he knows more than me. I just
577
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:42.079
I see a lot more, probably. Yeah, but yeah, so that's
578
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:47.400
that's the ideas that know. Our
revenue model is actually when our podcasters are
579
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.840
our creators, actually start making money. Yeah, man, I like that.
580
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:53.400
So because, because you know,
I think this is the thing,
581
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:58.119
and I pay for the software I'm
using to do this live streaming. Bill
582
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.800
a lot of money, hundreds of
dollars every year to have access to it,
583
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.920
and so I think it's very generousable
horn to say hey, use our
584
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.639
platform, build your audience, you
know, for you know, on our
585
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.280
platform as well, whoever's already here, and then also bring people over to
586
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.760
interact, all those kinds of things, and then here's a built in way
587
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.679
freedom monetize. Man, I think
that's cool. And you know, it's
588
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.400
been a content creator. It's not
just Oh, I get this one stream
589
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.400
revenue is going to pay me.
You know, maybe through some of some
590
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:29.320
people, but not for me,
like I'm I'm like, Oh, I
591
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.480
got to start this membership, that
thing, this thing. Guy, honey,
592
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:36.000
we're going to eat, you know, potatoes today. Okay, no,
593
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.559
no, what? Mac and cheese? All right, just potatoes as
594
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.519
content creator. So I think it's
really cool of you guys still look forward
595
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.320
and, you know, say hey, here's how we can help you monetize
596
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.840
and all that kind of stuff.
Man, I think that's huge, huge
597
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.920
for ball. Yeah, yeah,
and if that's the that's the kind of
598
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:58.639
mentality when we want to go into
it with and if something's not working,
599
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.960
you know we're willing to change it. We're very, very start up,
600
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:06.239
like we're very nimble. We got
a small, great team and we just
601
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:07.920
want to make sure whatever we're doing
is working. So, if you know
602
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:12.880
anyone's listening to this clubhouse on that
go we try out bull horn last month
603
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.000
and it was like a little rough
or something like that. I would encourage
604
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.719
you to reach out. I want
to hear your feedback and suggestions. You
605
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.639
know, there's no I'm incredibly proud
of the product, but you know,
606
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.559
I got no ego. Want to
hear all your kind of comments, constructive,
607
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.360
Nice, mean or not, let
me hear it. Yeah, man,
608
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:31.840
I think I've since some men emails
over there. If you guys think
609
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.159
good now, your introes always very
nice. Hey guys, and then you
610
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.639
know I'm getting hey guys, what
the this happening? Now I'm just messing,
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but now you guys have been awesome
to to. You know, Bull
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Horn, and that's another thing,
man. It's you're similar to a couple
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other platforms that I like where you
are in the in the weed, so
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to speak, with the creators.
It's not just like hey, here's the
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platform, deal with the figure out
on your own, but you're like hey,
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we're building this for you guys,
and so I'm seeing you even already
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making changes and micro changes and checking
on stuff and testing and in all kinds
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of stuff which you know. It's
just cool as a consumer, you know,
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quote unquote, to see that into
really be valued by companies rather than
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just like oh well, you're just
this creator, we just needed to come
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over here and create. But so
man, high five to both of you
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guys for creating an awesome platform and
hopefully my community is listening and saying hey,
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I want to go over there and
create a lot I've shows or or
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just use it as a recording platform
and use the video and audio for other
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projects. And I think you guys
have created something really cool, really unique
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and I want to encourage people to
jump over there. So, before I
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end, is there anything that I
didn't talk about, because I know we
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could probably dive into the listener side
of it on the APP. I think
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most of my audience is going to
be creators, but maybe we could do
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another episode and talk about some other
stuff on the listener side. If you
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guys wanted to down the road,
but anything about the creator side of it
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that we left out that you want
to touch on, I kind of didn't.
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I didn't come out into this with
the greatest notes. I hit all
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my all my highlights. Yeah,
no, I think that was just about
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everything I was thinking about. Yeah, cool, but yeah, to what
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you're saying. I would like before
we log off, I want to grab
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a pick take a picture of our
set up for my mom, my mom,
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look, I'm famous. Yeah,
look, I'm famous. I see,
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yeah, the big TV and if
anybody I word, oh, go
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ahead. Are To say. We
were talking yesterday. It's funny to be
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on like the like the guest side
of things. We're usually the ones hosting,
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so that's it's a fun experience to
be on the other end. Yeah,
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because you're you're the man behind the
behind the curtain, control of everything.
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Yeah, it's nice to be the
guest or the talent over here just
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kind of talking. I know,
man, I'm used to in here's the
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funny part. And there's some people
in the in the clubhouse room. It
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was in a room with us last
night, but I'm always used to just
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kind of ride and Solo, like
I just bring information, put information out
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there and then when I'm get an
interview somewhere, I'm like, how do
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I what? I question? Do
I ask? What's it good? You
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know, I'm like overthinking the interview
process, but it's been good, man.
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So and we'll figure out the thing
with, you know, my audio
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set up in Bullhorn. I know
I was pushing all kinds of buttons before
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yea started. So I screwed something
up. But but if you guys got
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a couple more minutes, I just
want to ask if anybody on clubhouse here
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or anybody that's watching elsewhere has any
questions, feel free to either drop them
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in the chat or, being on
a clubhouse, raise your hand, come
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on up and we will and we'll
do that. We'll answer a couple questions
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or these guys will, if you
have any. And if you don't,
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then just be sure to reach out
to support at Bull Horned on FM.
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is at the right email. Yeah, and you they should be able to
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find out on the website as well. M Yeah, WE'RE HORN AT FM.
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Yep, Yep. Okay, cool. Well, awesome guys. I
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don't see that anybody else has any
questions. So I really appreciate you I
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look forward to our our long lasting
relationship and as being a creator on the
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bullhorn platform. And you know,
I told you like yeah, might create
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a show or two a week,
and I think next week I'm doing five
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backtoback shows or for for sure.
It's just too much fun, man,
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so we'll see what happens. So
this is kind of the kickoff of my
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backtoback show series and I'm if I
got plenty of opportunities to figure out that
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tech issue that I cost. So
be checking thosebos. I'm excited for the
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shows next week and we'll be at
podcast movement. So if anyone's listening,
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that will be a podcast movement,
stop by, say hi, take a
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look at the booth and that's well. We'll both be there and we can
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start recruiting some guests for you to
billy if you need. If you need
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some guests for next week as well. Yeah, man, anybody that's catering
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the creators or a creator, I
mean anybody really podcast, live streamer,
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all the fun stuff, just looking
for people to bring some value to do,
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you know it, to build a
community that's really this podcast all abouts
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to do stuff like this, learn
about different platforms and different tools to help
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us be better well what we do
and be better a craft. So awesome,
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man. We'll appreciate you guys so
much and in that will wrap up
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the interview part of this and just
want to shout out to everybody who joined
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us all over the the socials and
all that kind of fun stuff. Be
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Sure if you haven't follow us,
wherever you have not followed us yet.
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If you're on club house, make
sure you follow the club. I start
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a new club. Little light on
the audience and probably learn a lesson about
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that. Pres should have handled a
little better, but no big deal.
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And then also follow the Youtube Channel
and if you're on facebook, keeper,
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I already follow me if you're seeing
this, because I know it's just my
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mom. Okay, it's just my
mom watching. That is it. And
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remember got there, hit the record
button, create something great, inspire some
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other people. Your message matters and
be checking us out every day next week,
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Monday through Friday, at two PM
Eastern time, going to be I've
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right here with creating for money or
Monday morning show or Monday afternoon show.
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Rather, I'm going to be talking
to a lady named Nikki who went from
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senior executive to having one point two
million followers on ticktock. She reached out
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about some other stuff and I'm like, wait, what you have? What?
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Okay, you're coming on my show. Let's do it Monday. So
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she's coming on. I'm going to
learn just as well as you, so
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we'll see you guys there. All
right, until then,