March 18, 2022

Get to know bullhorn.fm

Get to know bullhorn.fm

Have you ever wished someone would created a podcast player that you could go live with audio or audio and video? Well these guys have done just that. They created a great tool for the indie podcaster.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.080 --> 00:00:07.839 Here's we all really like. You're listening to creating daily. There's something wrong 2 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:10.880 with you. You know that because you and I are like a mullets. 3 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:14.519 It is the is the business. So he's the front part of the haircut 4 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:18.320 and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're hilarious. Speaks 5 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:26.719 to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. All right, there 6 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.199 we go. It's a live show. I don't know where the hell them 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:35.320 you button is, but I'm excited to be live right now with my friends 8 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:38.039 nick and Sam. I'm going to bring them on in just a moment. 9 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:41.479 There from over a bullhorn. And so today we're going to be talking about 10 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:44.920 what is bullhorn and why is it going to be useful for podcasters and why 11 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.159 is it become easily one of my favorite platforms. So if you're joining me 12 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:50.759 over here on club house, really appreciate you. I see John, I 13 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:54.280 see me. If you're ever here on the bull for Bull Horn Platform, 14 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.679 I appreciate you as well. And then anywhere else you're watching, youtube, 15 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.439 twitch, facebook. That's it. I think it's all. I think this 16 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:04.159 all the places. So got a really fun show lined up for you today 17 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.439 in hopefully all the tech is work and let me know if it's not, 18 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.400 because you know, you get over here with some APP developers and you start 19 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:12.640 testing stuff out and you're like hey, will check this out. What about 20 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.480 this? What about that? How can I run my whole brain and put 21 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.879 it into my road cast and put it on here so I don't have to 22 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:22.640 think for myself and it starts getting all messy and then I screw stuff up. 23 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:25.959 So I think we got it though. So I'm pretty excited about that 24 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:29.599 and appreciate everybody jumping in. So I'll kind of rip through a couple of 25 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.879 segments. It's here, and then we'll bring the guys on and we'll start 26 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:37.799 talking about we'll start talk about bullhorn. So appreciate it and if your overun 27 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:42.000 clubhouse, really appreciate you guys jumping on and picking some people in the room. 28 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:45.599 It's a new club that I'm building, so I usually run this in 29 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.719 a different club. But before we jump into it, let's talk about a 30 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:55.519 little creator highlights segment. Then, if I remember correctly, here we go. 31 00:01:55.680 --> 00:02:02.120 This is Jonathan Gabby of the marketing distilled podcast. Just relaunched this podcast, 32 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:07.239 redid all the artwork, all that fun stuff, and so give a 33 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:08.599 little shout out to Jonathan. If you're into marketing, you want to know 34 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:12.479 more about it, be sure to reach out to him. This is what 35 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:17.400 we're just what creating daily is all about, is highlighting other creators and helping 36 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:23.280 each other on this path of creatorship and all that fun stuff. And, 37 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.479 by the way, this brought you by one sheet. One. She is 38 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:30.879 the Little Crabby pdf away that you have, because once she is going to 39 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:35.240 be your Goto when you're trying to get booked on more shows. It's a 40 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:40.000 literally just a creator. I don't know press kit. So just send them 41 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:43.400 your link to your website and go check mine out. It's on my instagram. 42 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:46.479 Follow me while you're over there and then you can do that as well. 43 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.199 So really, really appreciate you guys doing that. And my friend Brent 44 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:52.240 is going to be on the show next Tuesday, so be sure to come 45 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.840 next Tuesday to learn how you can show up just like a pro. All 46 00:02:55.919 --> 00:03:00.680 right, now let's talk about a little bit of news here. That's news 47 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:06.039 to me. Creating daily, man, I love those stingers. I can 48 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:08.560 get a little drink of water, I can do the thing. So some 49 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:13.159 news. I'm going to keep this one pretty quick, but we got ekam 50 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:16.400 live. I'm using e Cam actually in this live stream right now in this 51 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:22.879 video, and they just release their three dot ten release and I've been taking 52 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:24.879 for a test drive for a couple of weeks. I've been in the batty 53 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.840 group but I hadn't really been doing it very much and I took it for 54 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.360 a test drive and all you know, wow, it's all I got to 55 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:32.919 say. It's wow. They get some really cool stuff over there. One 56 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:38.439 of the things that's notably mentioned is the virtual microphone. So if you've been 57 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:43.080 using Ekam to any extent in the you know you're like a, this sucks 58 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.120 that can't bring an audio from Ekm. You can now do that. It 59 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:47.599 is a little tricky, though, and you get to figure that out when 60 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:51.719 you're working with other apps of how all that stuff will work. So it 61 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.680 is a little bit of a game changer. And now maybe I can get 62 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:57.479 rid of my road caster because I can do all the sound effects or Kim 63 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:01.400 or maybe not. All right. So now enough of my news, bad 64 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:06.319 jokes and bull crap. I'm going to bring on Nick and Sam over here 65 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:10.639 from the Bullhorn Platform. By the way, if you're over on Bull Horn. 66 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:13.240 Say Hello, big show. Brandon is in the house. I appreciate 67 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:17.199 your Brandon, for jumping in being a supportive of the crew and myself. 68 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:19.360 All right, so here we go. Now we're going to we're going to 69 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:24.439 swap over and it's what these guys are up to. What's going on, 70 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.360 Nick Sam, just one second, don't talk, because I got your mic 71 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:31.720 muted. Hold on, there we go. Now you can talk. Now 72 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:36.439 you can talk about that. Well, you go on, guys. It's 73 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:41.279 good. It's good. Happy Friday. Happy to be on the show, 74 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:45.879 seeing your little set up with all the that. The drink. Iout drink 75 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.480 a sip of water. Button really enjoy that. But yeah, this is 76 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:53.040 cool. I'm at to you quite I can't, can't wipe the spile off 77 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:55.480 my face. This is very, very cool. Yeah, man, this 78 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.759 is this is pretty fun, Dude. So I nerd out on all this 79 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:01.160 kind of stuff. And if you're watching this and you're like, what are 80 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.360 you guys talking about? Where you were's bullhorn out. I put a link 81 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:09.480 somewhere near the we're if you're watching on facebook or youtube or twitch or wherever, 82 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:11.399 there should be a link. Pretty well, maybe not on twitch, 83 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.480 but anywhere else pretty close by, and then I'm actually going to link it 84 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.519 over here in clubhouse. So so, nick, what's going on? Man? 85 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.920 I give you a chance to talk to them. I'm excited. I'm 86 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:24.959 drinking bubbly water, which is a huge live mistake. But if I beltry 87 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:31.879 apologize, you're good. Now we doing to day billy. There we go. 88 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:33.759 It's a drink I was telling you about. Yeah, I mean I'm 89 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:40.160 doing a turn the MIC on US whenever you drink now. Yeah, we're 90 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:44.439 we're super excited to be on the show. Kind of share with your audience 91 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:48.439 what bull horns up to. I know they might be a little hesitant or 92 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:54.120 resistant to it, considering, you know, you guys creators have so many 93 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:57.319 platforms, but we really believe we got something here that's kind of, kind 94 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:01.800 of really helpful for the Indie podcast cast especially, kind of ties in everything 95 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.920 together and actually helps them kind of create new interactive content. But I'm getting 96 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.480 a little ahead of myself. I don't know if you have any questions, 97 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.439 but I can go ahead and dive into Bull Horn to anyone that's new on 98 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.399 the platform or new to this show here and US right now. Yeah, 99 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:16.319 man, so I wanted to. I want to ask you guys one thing, 100 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:20.720 and I think Sam, you've been there with Bull Horn from the beginning. 101 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:25.839 So there's a bunch of podcast platforms out there right. So there's, 102 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:29.240 you know, and more now probably than ever, obviously, since it's become 103 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:32.720 a popular thing, maybe due to some famous people getting bought out and all 104 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:35.720 that kind of stuff. But what? When? When did the company START? 105 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:40.079 What you're to start? Like two thousand? Yeah, tea. Yeah, 106 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:43.959 so two thousand and seventeen was the kind of inception of Bull Horn. 107 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:48.199 It was much different than it is and its current state. So our parent 108 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:56.480 company is carryer x and it works in the Telcom Space and one of the 109 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:00.399 kind of use cases where people were using our services were was radio stations. 110 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:05.040 International radio stations needed US phone numbers so they're listeners could dial into. So 111 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:10.120 that's where we kind of started with audio content. So we kind of did 112 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.240 like a natural bridge where like hey, you know, podcastings up and coming, 113 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.279 why don't we just attach a bunch of phone numbers of podcasting? We 114 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.680 did that in radio. Let's just see and check it out. We didn't 115 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.160 really put too much intention behind it. We just kind of like put it 116 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:28.879 out there see what would happen and slowly but surely we came became more ingrained 117 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:31.639 into kind of the podcast atmosphere. We were at first kind of just a 118 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:38.360 listening APP and then we as we talked to more podcasters, we really kind 119 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.680 of start to understand their problems a little bit more right and one of the 120 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.879 biggest ones was hey, you know, I don't necessarily know my listeners that 121 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:49.800 well or I'm not really engaging with them. And to that that meant that, 122 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:53.560 like, podcasting is essentially just a one way street. Right, you're 123 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:59.639 putting out audio to many people, but you're digesting it on you know, 124 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.199 they say like the smartphone, it has more computing power than like the Apollo 125 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.279 mission, but yet still we're just listening to prerecorded audio. So we kind 126 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:09.279 of got together. We're like, you know what, let's let's take a 127 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:13.720 hack of it. Let's try to make podcasting a two way street and have 128 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:20.399 a video in thereat and and interactive optionality behind it. So that's kind of 129 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.879 like the quick kind of history of bullhorn and that's where we would ride that 130 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.040 today gotchy. So I'm sorry to interrupt you. I'm not yes, some 131 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.759 people on Bullhorn saying they can't hear you. Guys. No sound from Salmon 132 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:41.360 Nick's end. However, I'm getting sound from you and we're doing something. 133 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:46.200 You want the Bull Horn side and you're getting sound from me. So I'm 134 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.399 just going to double with check to see if we're getting sound from you. 135 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:56.200 Interesting. Are you getting sound for me? Is it just through ECAM? 136 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:00.840 Is it going everywhere else too? I should be. Let me, let 137 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.080 me dotubble check here. Okay, so that's what you do on a live 138 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:07.600 show, guys. He's test UFF. It's yeah, it's what I normally 139 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.559 do. Anyway. Sold on. Let me let me fast forward this. 140 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:18.360 I know we had it for a minute there. I think it might just 141 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.919 becoming okay, so it's on facebook side. So I think. I think 142 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.879 I'm getting some comments over here. So let me just still book check. 143 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.799 Okay, yeah, in the words, if I can find it, their 144 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:33.159 problem. Yeah, okay, cool. So what's good, billy from Chris 145 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.960 Stone? What's up, Chris? Could to see him? Man, and 146 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:39.679 my friend brant says sound in facebook. So we're going to facebook world. 147 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.480 So must be interesting. I don't know. I don't know why they wouldn't 148 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:48.840 be able to hear you and not me. Interesting my guests would be and 149 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.399 I don't know, we might have to test his. It might just be 150 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:54.559 coming through your head the Bull Horn audio might just be coming through or the 151 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.039 ECAM are ekam audios, I coming to you and your system in your headphones, 152 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:05.039 but not triggering out there trickling out the bullhorn. Maybe smorrow? Maybe 153 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:11.039 so. So, maybe that would be weird. Huh? Maybe so. 154 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:13.679 Yeah, I don't know how to fix it. Paul, will happening. 155 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:18.720 Block Austin Dia Grahams on the White Board and see you, because Ye happen. 156 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:20.679 Hours back and forth and seeing whether it is all about. But Yeah, 157 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.000 besides, did you guys just over dubbed the Bullhorn Show? What's to 158 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.320 Redo it and the guys can just talk over it and we can put it 159 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.519 back out there. Good. Yeah, all right, yeah, we'll do 160 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.440 it in different people's voices, create creeer on subtitles. Yeah, yeah, 161 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.159 right, all right, my so, so let's jump into bullhorn. Unfortunately 162 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.759 it's not working on bullhorn. So I'm going to I'm going to dive on 163 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:48.120 Bullhorn. I don't see any reason of putting that out there. So apologize, 164 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.120 but we can we can test after a call and see. So, 165 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.840 man, let's get back into so you guys originally start out in the radio 166 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:56.519 thing. Is kind of like a call in service. Is that kind of 167 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.200 what it was? And now you're you're like, oh, hey, let's 168 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:05.320 do some stuff for podcasters and and then we're yeah, from there. Yeah, 169 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:09.440 yeah, so the the kind of inception of it was, hey, 170 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.919 you know, there's a lot of radio stations internationally that needed to be broadcast 171 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.159 in the US and if you weren't like, obviously you can't pick up that 172 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.200 radio signal in your car. Right. So you can do Internet radio and 173 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:26.720 streaming, but there is kind of like that early teens, like the two 174 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.720 thousand teens, I don't know what you call that decade. There is still 175 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.759 data limits and datacaps right, and it was there was a large immigrant population 176 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.799 United States that still wanted to listen to the radios back home. So we 177 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.559 started attaching phone numbers who have went to the radios and we work with some 178 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.000 pretty cool organizations like, I believe it was Zeno Radio and like audio now 179 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:54.399 and a few other ones since. So we are basically broadcasting international content or 180 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:58.399 in the national radio content through US phone numbers in the super cool. A 181 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:03.399 lot of people really liked it and there was kind of like some very clunky 182 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.919 like Ibr or like touch touch tone commands on that, like you could skip 183 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.519 from radio station the radio station, I rewind and things like that, but 184 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:15.639 it was very, very clunky at a certain point. And then so, 185 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.240 you know, as the kind of natural progression happened, everyone was like hey, 186 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.519 you guys should check out podcasting if you're doing so much stuff with like 187 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:28.240 Internet radio. So then we didn't take like our first step. was just 188 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.960 kind of like okay, let's check it out and we dropped in some phone 189 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.639 numbers on some podcasting didn't really pick up. You know, every podcaster was 190 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:37.720 excited about it, like Oh yeah, I get the fun. Younger like 191 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:41.840 you know, you know how podcasters are there, like if you can, 192 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:43.919 you're going to put my content into more places, like absolutely. Yeah. 193 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.200 So initially, like I mean, we got a lot of positive response from 194 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.480 it and we were working with a lot of Indie podcasters and that's kind of 195 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.519 what bullhorns about. We're also, you know, we're a small company, 196 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:03.480 so we're mainly focused on like Indie podcasters. But yeah, that was like 197 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:05.279 our first kind of like dip into it. We didn't really you know, 198 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:07.799 know what we were doing. It was kind of like a little off shot 199 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.879 and I think it was like, you know, the URL was all wrong 200 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:15.559 and stuff like that. We move to like bull horned ot FM stuff like 201 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.399 that. So it was really cool being part of like the because back then, 202 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.519 in like two thousand and seventeen, podcasting was really like the wild wild 203 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:28.279 west. You know, it's kind of a little more consolid you know, 204 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:33.200 you got players like spotify on Amazon buying up huge pieces of content and other 205 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.120 platforms and things like that, but it's still, I think it's still very 206 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:41.600 hot industry podcasting. It's just getting a little cooler. I was the kind 207 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.039 of put it. Yeah, man, I you know, I think it's 208 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:46.919 interesting too, because I was saying a clubhouse from the other day and we 209 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.200 were talking about this. We're talking about like new technology and people creating and 210 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:54.759 developing new APPS and and you know, it's always funny to make this joke. 211 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.120 I'm probably to Piss some people off and I don't care. It's true. 212 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.480 It's like if you started podcasting in two thousand and four it's like a 213 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:03.279 lot of people have like a chip on their shoulder about new stuff, and 214 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.600 you mentioned spotify, you mentioned club or, you mentioned well, you mentioned 215 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.720 apple, and I think apple has had all this time. I mean this 216 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:13.799 was their baby. They had all this time to grow it, to make 217 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.840 it valuable, to make it do something. They didn't. Spotify comes in, 218 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.120 starts taking up some market share. Ohhh, we got this gold mine 219 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.080 that we've been sitting on, this golden gives egg. You know, now 220 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.879 we got to figure out how to do something with it, and I think 221 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.840 it's cool that you have companies like yours, like Bull Horn, that is 222 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:37.240 saying hey, where you want to be innovative in this podcasting space and really 223 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.360 serve these indie podcasters, and it's and I don't know why these other companies 224 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.679 haven't, but I was telling somebody on the phone this morning because they were 225 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:46.720 there telling me. They're like yeah, man, this is kind of cool 226 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.240 these guys. I'm again, man, I hope these guys freaking plow through 227 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.399 and take a bunch of market share because they actually give a rip about the 228 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:58.000 community of Podcasters, while everyone else is trying to make a buck. Man. 229 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.159 So I think you know, that's that was a part of the thing 230 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.000 that I really like about Bull Horn. Sure, I get has some tech 231 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.720 issues and maybe I don't know how to run audio correctly. We're going to 232 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:11.000 figure that out, but the the vibe that you guys put off its hey, 233 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.960 we are here for the Indie podcaster. We do want to provide unique 234 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.840 features that no one else is thinking about, and so, you know, 235 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.879 that was kind of the thing that drew me to bullhorn was, you know, 236 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.919 someone told me about it. I was looking to do Internet radio. 237 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.440 I was actually about to to get in this whole other world that I didn't 238 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:35.240 belong in to do Internet radio and in the my friend over at Podchas was 239 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.000 like, Hey, you know, check out Bull Horn, immediately, get 240 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.440 on it. Nick shows me a demo. I'm hooked. So let's jump 241 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:45.240 into some of those features that you guys provide, so when people are listening 242 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.720 back to this, if they're a podcaster and they like live streaming, but 243 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.320 yes, do way more than live streaming. So let's dive into those a 244 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:56.240 little bit now before I do that. Is it fair to say that Bull 245 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:02.279 Horn is a podcast player that you can go live on video or video and 246 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:04.600 audio? Is that like a like a good pitch for bull horn or what 247 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:10.559 would be your thirty second pitch. My my elevator pitch would be that Bull 248 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:15.960 Horn is for content creators to create great rich multimedia, whether that's audio, 249 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.639 video or visual. So visual just being kind of like holes and stuff like 250 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.879 that. We'll get in that in real time and then distribute to all their 251 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:26.360 channels. Right, okay, so they have that real time optionality and this 252 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:30.960 is why, you know, we're taking the the the approach, just because 253 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:34.399 I love the Indian community. I think it's something super special. There's been 254 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:37.799 a lot of companies that come in and try to break up the kind of 255 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:45.080 independent and free ness of like that is podcasting. Sure won't name and these 256 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:48.320 because I don't want them to be listening right now, but you know, 257 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.480 and they, they and that's I think that's so funny because you mentioned the 258 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.279 kind of old guys from like two thousand and four right that I've been around. 259 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:00.240 They I get their hesitancy and I get there like resistance to it because 260 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.960 they've probably seen so many companies come in the space and try to change it 261 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.480 makes sense. Yeah, and it doesn't. Yeah, and it hasn't worked 262 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.960 right or it has worked to a certain extreme, and you just maybe just 263 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.599 need to be a billion dollar company. But what we're trying to do is 264 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:19.160 we're at to trying to work with those kind of old timers or like in 265 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:23.880 these podcasters and actually take their content to the next level if they want right. 266 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:29.200 We are not looking to change anything that they're doing. And you know, 267 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.160 one of our kind of principles is that, like, Hey, you 268 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:36.079 can create on Bullhorn, right, you can create poles, you can create 269 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:38.559 images, you can turn on your video, you can have clickable ads. 270 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:42.359 But if you want that content elsewhere, go for it, right. We 271 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:47.279 don't want to kind of locked you into like a certain area or keep you 272 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:49.599 in like our walled garden. Right. The best place for your listeners to 273 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.079 or your audience to actually interact with you is on bullhorn. Right. I 274 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.960 get access to all these poles, these like the cohost feature, the call 275 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:03.359 in is actually the cool this one where you actually have listeners becoming a part 276 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.000 of your show and contributing audio to your show. Right, similar to clubhouse, 277 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:11.559 but there's video, right, and there's poles involved. But the past, 278 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:12.599 the best place to consume that is the bull horn. But if you 279 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:15.759 want to send that the Youtube while you're going live, you want to send 280 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.359 that to facebook while you're going live. Absolutely a hundred percent to it. 281 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:21.839 Yeah, man, I well, those are, you know, some of 282 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:25.759 the features that you mentioned that I really like about Bull Horn. One the 283 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.880 engagement aspect of and I think I've read, you know, done a plenty 284 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.000 of research on podcasting and this is seems like the one of the biggest issues 285 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.000 is discoverability. How do I get found? And then when I do get 286 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.640 found, when when my audience finds me or I find them, how do 287 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.319 I communicate with them? How do I interact with them? And I think 288 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:48.680 that's one thing that I really like about the bullhorn platform is you can go 289 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.799 live on there and it's not it's much different, because people go, well, 290 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:55.160 I can go live on facebook or youtube about trying to tell somebody this 291 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:56.920 the other day. I'm like yeah, but it's like a different experience because 292 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.880 you stuff is like divide it up, like there's a chat box, there's 293 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:04.720 a questions box, there's the call and feature that you talked about, and 294 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:10.559 then also on the drop, on the like the, as said, drop 295 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:12.640 side of don't know what else you call maybe you guys got a name internally, 296 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:15.480 but I can put up the pole and say, Hey, you like 297 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:19.079 fruity pebbles? Are you like, you know, like dragons, chocolate chip 298 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:22.079 cookies or whatever it is, and then, you know, I can interact 299 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:25.960 that way, you know, pretty live, which is what I was the 300 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:30.720 most impressed about, and just dragging these things and draw up them onto a 301 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.160 timeline, which I thought was pretty cool. So I had you guys seen 302 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:37.000 that before? Or was it did you just like talk to enough podcasters and 303 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:40.279 they go, man, I'm still good enough interaction, like how do we 304 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.279 increase this interaction? Yeah, that's you know, I think two of the 305 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.400 biggest problems are as with podcasters that we've kind of talked to and we're you 306 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.519 know, I'm sure there's plenty of problems, but ones that we kind of 307 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:57.680 set out to that to the fix our hey, we want to know our 308 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.680 audience a little bit better. Right, podcasting stats and then all the likes 309 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.680 are a little tough, but like even to me, like a more personal 310 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.920 level, like who are they like? Whether they what are they thinking about 311 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.960 my specific episode? Right, you have a lot of content that goes out, 312 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:15.599 people consume it and you don't really get feedback on it until maybe a 313 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.480 week later. And if they want to contribute to the like the show next 314 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.480 week, right, they got to like Dm you before, ahead of time. 315 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:26.039 So there's like a little bit of a lag. We want to eliminate 316 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:29.440 that. And then the other thing, that other problem that we're solving is, 317 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:33.759 you know, like let's say you you have a thirty minute show planned, 318 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:34.880 right, you got to you got to come up with content for thirty 319 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:40.839 minutes, but if you're interacting with your fans and your audience, we see 320 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:44.279 that those shows actually go on for like twice as many times. We have 321 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:48.759 a like a hunting podcaster, right, and he goes, he they talks 322 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.640 about stuff for thirty minutes, but then he just collins and he does poles 323 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.200 and there's all these chats and like his episodes now extend like somewhat like two 324 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.599 hours. Right. So it's you're actually building more content with your audience as 325 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.599 well. Yeah, man, you know, that's why I think I love 326 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.960 about the live aspect one. You know, I tell people all the time 327 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:08.680 I go yeah, in high school as a procrastinator. So I think there's 328 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:14.079 like this sense of urgency that my brain loves of like, Oh God, 329 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.200 I get to get this done like right now. And so you know, 330 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:21.079 going live similar to this today, like we're on the call, my text 331 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.359 stuffs breaking all over the place. I can't get it together and you just 332 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:26.160 have to keep moving. You just got to keep moving in the action, 333 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:33.039 which for some podcasters like a nightmare. For me, and I guess too, 334 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.160 man, like what I love is not just podcasters, but it's like 335 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:41.160 multi creators. Like, sure, I'm a podcaster, but I'm also a 336 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:44.160 live streamer, do some video, you know, it's like a do some 337 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:48.400 video production stuff, and I'm using these types of tools to one engage, 338 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.319 interact, you know, a coach people, all that kind of stuff, 339 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.440 and I can be multiple places, you know, all the time through these 340 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.200 platforms. And that's one thing that you guys do, you know well as 341 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.960 well. It's send people to facebook and Youtube and twitch and be able to 342 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:08.720 link up those accounts. So so, man, what is it? Is 343 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.640 that the hunting show you talked about? Is that the most popular show on 344 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.920 Bullhorn? Yeah, so, they were the favre, the first one we 345 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.960 kind of brought on and they can kind of speak to it. The the 346 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:23.200 host, Luke, he's a very funny guy, the good guy, great 347 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:29.559 content. A little are rated sometimes. They usually just just a little graphic 348 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.079 yeah, that that you can go like Friday night and they're always kind of 349 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.680 drinking. So it's great. He started up as I kind of like a 350 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.599 smaller podcaster, but he records all his content on bullhorn. So he just 351 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.880 kind of does the live episodes and then takes that and he pushes that to 352 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.960 his rss feed after the fact, which is exactly the kind of use case 353 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.359 that we want to do right. We don't want to keep any of the 354 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.200 content in like the Bullhorn Walt Garden. We want to just let you kind 355 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.720 of be exclusive with that. But he's an interesting use case because he started 356 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.039 off and he would get like a couple wives, but as he would kind 357 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:07.279 of or excume me, a couple live listeners, but as he would kind 358 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.119 of keep doing it and keep pushing the content out, he's getting a couple 359 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.799 hundred people on each of his live episodes and yet he just did his hundreds 360 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:19.599 episode. So it's really exciting to see that as a use case and he's 361 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:26.000 kind of become almost like a like an influencer in that industry among other outdoor 362 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:30.960 podcast so now we have a few other outdoor podcasts that just go live on 363 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.000 Bull Horn because he does it. So he's almost creating like this. He's 364 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:37.559 get Gotcha. Yeah, it's great to see. And I want to touch 365 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:44.480 on what you talked about with like the live and I get why some creators 366 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.680 are hesitant to go live. It does expose you and you are kind of 367 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:52.319 vulnerable and we totally like understand that. So like Bull Horn can still be 368 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:56.839 used as almost like a free river side fm where you can just come in, 369 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.240 you can record remotely, similar to what we're doing right now, and 370 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.039 just record audio and video and use that elsewhere. So you don't necessarily need 371 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.359 to go live on bullhorn to to kind of still take advantage of it. 372 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.440 Okay, got your man. So so I get is that through the private 373 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.720 mode? Is that where that would be through? Yeah, so next week 374 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:22.000 for podcast movement were releasing some succiting things private mood. Yeah, so private 375 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.279 mode just we originally designed that to be like, Oh, you could record 376 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.240 there or you could like test out the bullhorn product. Right. We you 377 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.039 know, working in the Tech Company internally, you have certain terms that you 378 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:40.359 use and you realize those terms don't necessarily like translate to like the user base. 379 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:42.480 Right. So we're actually breaking that down say like Oh, private mode 380 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.519 and it be called private mode. That should be there should be recording mode 381 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.680 and there should be a test mode. So that's kind of what we're breaking 382 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:53.720 into for podcast movement, kind of releasing this very new, pretty dashboard that 383 00:24:53.759 --> 00:25:00.160 we're super excited to share. And then after that, so this summer for 384 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.640 the next podcast movement out in Dallas, we're actually have a really exciting feature 385 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.839 coming out that allows so for podcasters that don't want to go live but still 386 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:14.440 want to have that live interaction, we're actually allowing them to actually upload the 387 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.440 file the bullhorn, whether it's audio or video, and then, instead of, 388 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.160 you know, trying to create the content live, they can already have 389 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:26.839 it created but still have their listeners interact with all that content and you kind 390 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.200 of sit behind on the DASH board. So it's almost like a fake I've 391 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.599 or I like to call it like a premiere, because it's like your role 392 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.119 sens the red carpet. You get to interact with everyone. Everyone's enjoying your 393 00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.920 content, but you're live but your contents not. It's already kind up a 394 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.519 very like polished and edited. Yeah, man, that's pretty cool. That's 395 00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.400 going to be a pretty cool feature soul. That stuff rolls out in April. 396 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:52.200 You say that one will be. So that premiere will be podcast movement. 397 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:56.559 I believe it's August and Dallas also in the fall. Gotcha. Gotcha. 398 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.359 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I know you guys are rolling out 399 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.400 some stuff here in the beginning of the being in the month, I believe 400 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.039 saw it. Look forward to those. I mean, if you want to 401 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.279 speak on any of that, cool. If it's still like behind closed doors, 402 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.559 no problem, no, no, yeah, more than happy to speak 403 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:17.319 on it. So our cohost feature, which count it a little hiccup just 404 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:22.200 a second ago. That'll be out. And then just to dashboard, is 405 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.799 just being like kind of like having a complete, like cosmetic overhaul. We 406 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.359 brought on some great designers here at both Horn. The teams continuing to grow 407 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.240 and we're, you know, a lot of people have like a lot of 408 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.079 that ownership and pride and this product. So it's just getting better better and 409 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.519 every day it's you know, puts a smile on my face to see where 410 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:42.000 it's going. So we got some new stuff coming for podcast movement terms of 411 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:45.440 cosmetic up grades and the like, that recording feature as well. Okay, 412 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.680 Gotcha. So so my friend knee over here in club house. He says, 413 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.000 how about the mobile APP? So that's a good question. Is So 414 00:26:53.160 --> 00:27:00.160 I've been going live from my desktop or laptop. Is there any plans to 415 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.160 be able to go live straight from mobiles and worked like Instagram or any of 416 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.440 the or like Amazon live, for instance, any of those platforms? Yeah, 417 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.400 so that is on the road map. is a little farther out. 418 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.920 We really want to focus on the creators that are using kind of like their 419 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.599 studio and they're set up first and then push two kind of the more casual 420 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.319 from the phone. There is a way to still contribute and that to the 421 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.680 work with live episodes, right. You can as a listener, you can 422 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:33.240 call in to live episodes from the mobile APP. The mobile APP really, 423 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.039 though, is it's a Podcatcher, right, which is kind of cool. 424 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.960 So, and this is why bull horns really specifically meant for podcasters. Any 425 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:47.839 creator can go ahead and use it, but podcasters especially, they have an 426 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:51.720 advantage because their contents already on bull horn. So instead of creating like, 427 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:55.079 you know, a new youtube channel or new facebook profile or twitch channel, 428 00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.960 you can just roll up to bull horn be like hey, creating from money 429 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.759 for money. That's my podcast, boom. And then you're making content around 430 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:07.079 like already, like next to your existing rss feed content, so you don't 431 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.519 have to create like a new person or anything like that. So so, 432 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:14.480 man, I know when you do, when you're when you're doing. You 433 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.000 have because because I'm a user, obviously, so I've been on that long. 434 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:19.519 So I'm still learning it. But I have an RSS feed, I 435 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:25.759 have a bullhorn feed in if I go live on Bullhorn that I upload this 436 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.640 to the RSS feed, it doubles up in the bullhorn APP. Is that 437 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.200 is there going to be kind of a toggle on and off switch or something 438 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:34.880 where I can say, oh, man, in for Bullhorn, I want 439 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.119 the bullhorn thing, but then I want I want to be able to put 440 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.759 it out everywhere else, that having the double up and Bull Horn. Yeah, 441 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.880 there is that optionality where they can, you know, you can, 442 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.799 you you will be able to hide one, right. I know podcasters are 443 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.359 very sensitive with their RSS feed. So that's something that's done manually. We 444 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.880 don't automatically. All right, got you that. Yeah, we didn't want 445 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.039 them to say like Oh, Hey, this episode is a duplicate. You 446 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.039 know, hide it from the platform. I we can we can get into 447 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.720 some trouble. I can already see the supporting emails coming in. Oh Oh, 448 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.640 yeah, about that one, but I don't want to deal with that 449 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:15.119 many supporting thols. I'll deal with the necessary. Yeah, so that's still 450 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:19.160 like a manual button right now. But yeah, for the way it sits 451 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:23.119 right now as because I with because I also have a podcast myself that I 452 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:27.000 started in like November. I think back when we did the contest. How 453 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.119 many episodes are we are right now? I think I just did my twenty 454 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:37.839 for or I just scheduled my twenty four for Tuesday. Some teas and what's 455 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:42.440 the name of it? Already come on. So I kind of just changed 456 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.440 the name. We went through a little bit of rebranding. It's called outdoor 457 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.480 divisions. Okay, cool. Grew up in southern California. I Surf, 458 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.799 scape, snowboard, all that kind of fun stuff, but then I also 459 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.400 love to off road in camp that I am trying to kind of create a 460 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:02.119 brand around. But yeah, like I was saying, the way it's it's 461 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:06.480 kind in the bullhorn APP as as of now is both episodes will show up, 462 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.319 like Sam was saying, but the one that's published on Bullhorn has this 463 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.079 little interactive stamp next to the title of the episode, so you can kind 464 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.880 of easily see which one is going to be the bullhorn and all the interactive 465 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.720 stuff and which one's the R ass and is a little bit more traditional, 466 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.839 I guess. Okay, very cool. Yeah, man, I'll like that. 467 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.359 So now, as far as like creators, because I know you know 468 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.640 pro probably, like any APP, you want more creators to come on. 469 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:36.759 Is there any basil or types of content or categories that you're really like? 470 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.440 Man, if a creators listen to this, it's in the dog category. 471 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.200 We want you guys come over and check out platform. Is there? Do 472 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.480 you guys like kind of keutality of you know what that looks like? Are 473 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.279 you trying to diversifires? It matter really? Yeah, I can start with 474 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.559 the content that's been a little more challenging or the creators that's been a little 475 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.759 more challenging for us to bring on kind of prove the use case to is 476 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.440 the ones that have like highly edited storytelling, right. So I can't yeah, 477 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.440 serial podcast right, very produced stuff. Yeah, well, I wouldn't 478 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.799 say necessarily like produced, but like yeah, like it's where it's almost like 479 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:21.839 a crafted story with like voice actors, right, that one's it's a little 480 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.880 tough to convince them to go live with that content. So that's why we 481 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:30.440 have that premiere feature where they can actually have hey, you know, you're 482 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.559 actually a kind of doing like a fake red, red carpet roll out for 483 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.880 the episode and people are joining live. That's the good use case for them, 484 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:45.200 but we're seeing so we're actually working with there's actually a super cool podcast 485 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.799 similar to that wh I just talked about, like the storytelling aspect, called 486 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:53.240 solar. It's produced by KURTC media over here in Malibu and instead of, 487 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.440 you know, going live with that content, what they're doing is they're actually 488 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.559 having kind of like talk to the characters post shows, right. So, 489 00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:06.000 God, you're like behind the game of thrones stuff. Yeah, where it's 490 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.720 like a talk, you know, have discussions. Where do you think the 491 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:13.200 episode is going to go next week, stuff like that. So there's really 492 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.559 it really like if people are kind of hesitant to on it, I just 493 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.400 want to think like what their fans neither how they want to interact with their 494 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.519 audience, and that's what bullhorns all about is and that you actually interacting with 495 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:30.039 your audience if you want to have that kind of deeper community connection. Yeah, 496 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.039 man, I like the I like that fault process of like hey, 497 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.319 this doesn't have to be the this doesn't have to be the meeting potatoes. 498 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.240 It can be like the dessert. You know. It's like yes, hey, 499 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:43.119 hey, listen our podcast, but then come over on bull horn check 500 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.720 us out for the after show or check us, you know, like the 501 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.160 next day or something like that. And I see people using clubhouse like this. 502 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.160 or my either my three year olds or my dog always wants to be 503 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.240 a part of the the live stream. So, but I see clubhouse being 504 00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.160 used like that. And I did that the other day because I'm I I'm 505 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.039 streaming to clubhouse, while I'm streaming to bullhorn, while I'm streaming to the 506 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.680 rest of the places, and then I will shut off bullhorn, I'll show 507 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.599 off the video and I'll just kind of hang out in clubhouse for a little 508 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.079 bit and kind of talk, you know, talk to everybody over there. 509 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.119 Whatever it's like, you know, because I just feel like that platform is 510 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.039 geared to hey, bring people up, talk to them, all that kind 511 00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.119 of stuff, versus hey, I'm talking to the camera, or the three 512 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.160 of us are talking to the camera, talking to the audience. Who's WHO's 513 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.000 listening for the live stream. So, man, that's a really cool use 514 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.400 case that, you know, creators could think about as well. It's like 515 00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:37.440 how do I make this like the engaging platform? I love that idea. 516 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.759 That's a good concept. They're yeah, yeah, and that's that's kind of 517 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.680 what it's all about. You know, we just want to give any, 518 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.960 any creators, the ability to be creative, right, and that's what's funny, 519 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.759 like I swear like every every month we we kind of stumble into a 520 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.000 new other use case. Is someone being like Hey, can I use it 521 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.680 for this? I'm like yeah, you definitely, can you try it out? 522 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.319 There's like another example. We're talking to like a kind of how they 523 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.440 describe them, they're kind of like a like a small netflix where they have 524 00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:12.480 like TV shows and the movies they create. They're like, Oh yeah, 525 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.000 we have our own subscription base of like Twentyzero fans. We want to be 526 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.960 able to actually hold post shows with them. So, like we have our 527 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.159 highly addited content that goes out on our platform and we're looking to have interactive 528 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.679 content like talk to them. Where can we do that? So we're actually 529 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.639 talking to them about that too. So it's really cool where people are starting 530 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.400 to kind of understand, you know, especially kind of post covid world. 531 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.039 You know, I don't think every everyone wants to go back to the in 532 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:42.119 person events and everything like that, but I think still having that virtual interaction 533 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.079 is here to stay and Bull Horn's kind of looking the foster that freighty creators. 534 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.440 Yeah, man, I love it. I think you guys got a 535 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.400 lot of cool stuff going on over there and if anybody is listening that's a 536 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.679 creator, and probably my audience, you're some type of creator. Be Sure 537 00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.760 to reach out to bullhorn and reach out to nick and get a demo, 538 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.119 because because I saw it, I signed up. I was like Oh, 539 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.880 cool, cool, whatever, but then I really didn't get it until I 540 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.760 saw that demo. So, Nick, how can they reach out to you 541 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.400 for the demo? And then I want to actually talk about another thing that 542 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.079 I get asked a lot about and we'll kind of wrap up the show with 543 00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.719 that talk. But go go for Nick having in touch with you to book 544 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:25.199 a demo. Honestly, the support at Bullhorn DOT FM email would probably just 545 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.000 be the easiest one. All those could filter through me anyways. So I'll 546 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.320 see those and then all be kind of the first respond and work with whoever 547 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.280 it is to kind of get some scheduled. And it also hit us up 548 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:44.039 on social too. Yeah, our twitter is a lot of fun. We're 549 00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.880 small, we're not we're not as big as some of the other twitter personalities 550 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.920 out there, but dmings on social goes. You know, great, we'll 551 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.480 give you a follow back, start interacting with you. It's great stuff. 552 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.000 All right, cool man. Now the last kind of bit of the show, 553 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.360 when to get into here in the really the last question when dive in 554 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.519 it, which is a question I get asked all the time, is how 555 00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.639 do we make money with my podcast? And I was surprised to learn that 556 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:13.280 bullhorn was a free platform, but also as a monetization aspect to it as 557 00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.079 well. So can you guys dive in share a little bit? How can 558 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:21.480 these poor podcasters make a little bit of money on Bullard? Yeah, absolutely 559 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.440 so. Our our mentality again is for the Creator. If you're not making 560 00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.639 money, we're not making money. That's kind of where Bull Horn lies. 561 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:35.519 So to use the platform, to sign up, to actually go live and 562 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:40.239 use all the features, it's completely free, so that that's something nice. 563 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:44.199 Now the catch, now there's not really a catch, is like, Hey, 564 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.800 if you actually want to start making money and create a subscription similar to 565 00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:51.519 something you know, like Patreon, you can actually take any of the features 566 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.679 that Bull Horn offers you, whether that be the collins, right, the 567 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.639 chats, the questions, even the images, right, or like the live 568 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:04.480 video. If you want to put any of that behind the pay wall and 569 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.760 put the subscription price on that, you can. Now they have to your 570 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.480 your audience has to subscribe to that through the mobile APP. Right. They 571 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.199 would have to get download the mobile APP and say, Hey, I subscribe. 572 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:21.480 And then after the Apple fifteen percent cut, or a fifteen or thirty 573 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.639 percent. It depends on like the year. I think. I think it's 574 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:29.760 the second year, is fifteen. Anyway, semantics, after that apple cut 575 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:35.840 you get eighty percent of all the eighty or eighty five. I think it's 576 00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.000 eighty five and eighty five. So he knows more than me. I just 577 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:42.079 I see a lot more, probably. Yeah, but yeah, so that's 578 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:47.400 that's the ideas that know. Our revenue model is actually when our podcasters are 579 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.840 our creators, actually start making money. Yeah, man, I like that. 580 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:53.400 So because, because you know, I think this is the thing, 581 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:58.119 and I pay for the software I'm using to do this live streaming. Bill 582 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.800 a lot of money, hundreds of dollars every year to have access to it, 583 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.920 and so I think it's very generousable horn to say hey, use our 584 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.639 platform, build your audience, you know, for you know, on our 585 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.280 platform as well, whoever's already here, and then also bring people over to 586 00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.760 interact, all those kinds of things, and then here's a built in way 587 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.679 freedom monetize. Man, I think that's cool. And you know, it's 588 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.400 been a content creator. It's not just Oh, I get this one stream 589 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.400 revenue is going to pay me. You know, maybe through some of some 590 00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:29.320 people, but not for me, like I'm I'm like, Oh, I 591 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.480 got to start this membership, that thing, this thing. Guy, honey, 592 00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:36.000 we're going to eat, you know, potatoes today. Okay, no, 593 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.559 no, what? Mac and cheese? All right, just potatoes as 594 00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.519 content creator. So I think it's really cool of you guys still look forward 595 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.320 and, you know, say hey, here's how we can help you monetize 596 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.840 and all that kind of stuff. Man, I think that's huge, huge 597 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.920 for ball. Yeah, yeah, and if that's the that's the kind of 598 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:58.639 mentality when we want to go into it with and if something's not working, 599 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.960 you know we're willing to change it. We're very, very start up, 600 00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:06.239 like we're very nimble. We got a small, great team and we just 601 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:07.920 want to make sure whatever we're doing is working. So, if you know 602 00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:12.880 anyone's listening to this clubhouse on that go we try out bull horn last month 603 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.000 and it was like a little rough or something like that. I would encourage 604 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.719 you to reach out. I want to hear your feedback and suggestions. You 605 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.639 know, there's no I'm incredibly proud of the product, but you know, 606 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.559 I got no ego. Want to hear all your kind of comments, constructive, 607 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.360 Nice, mean or not, let me hear it. Yeah, man, 608 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:31.840 I think I've since some men emails over there. If you guys think 609 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.159 good now, your introes always very nice. Hey guys, and then you 610 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.639 know I'm getting hey guys, what the this happening? Now I'm just messing, 611 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.800 but now you guys have been awesome to to. You know, Bull 612 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.880 Horn, and that's another thing, man. It's you're similar to a couple 613 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.519 other platforms that I like where you are in the in the weed, so 614 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:52.320 to speak, with the creators. It's not just like hey, here's the 615 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.440 platform, deal with the figure out on your own, but you're like hey, 616 00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:00.639 we're building this for you guys, and so I'm seeing you even already 617 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.760 making changes and micro changes and checking on stuff and testing and in all kinds 618 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.119 of stuff which you know. It's just cool as a consumer, you know, 619 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:15.760 quote unquote, to see that into really be valued by companies rather than 620 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.079 just like oh well, you're just this creator, we just needed to come 621 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.199 over here and create. But so man, high five to both of you 622 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:28.599 guys for creating an awesome platform and hopefully my community is listening and saying hey, 623 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.599 I want to go over there and create a lot I've shows or or 624 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.119 just use it as a recording platform and use the video and audio for other 625 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.960 projects. And I think you guys have created something really cool, really unique 626 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:43.159 and I want to encourage people to jump over there. So, before I 627 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.000 end, is there anything that I didn't talk about, because I know we 628 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.920 could probably dive into the listener side of it on the APP. I think 629 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.800 most of my audience is going to be creators, but maybe we could do 630 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.199 another episode and talk about some other stuff on the listener side. If you 631 00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.800 guys wanted to down the road, but anything about the creator side of it 632 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.920 that we left out that you want to touch on, I kind of didn't. 633 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.599 I didn't come out into this with the greatest notes. I hit all 634 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:12.480 my all my highlights. Yeah, no, I think that was just about 635 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.719 everything I was thinking about. Yeah, cool, but yeah, to what 636 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.920 you're saying. I would like before we log off, I want to grab 637 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.840 a pick take a picture of our set up for my mom, my mom, 638 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:27.400 look, I'm famous. Yeah, look, I'm famous. I see, 639 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:32.159 yeah, the big TV and if anybody I word, oh, go 640 00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.079 ahead. Are To say. We were talking yesterday. It's funny to be 641 00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.760 on like the like the guest side of things. We're usually the ones hosting, 642 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:42.480 so that's it's a fun experience to be on the other end. Yeah, 643 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.880 because you're you're the man behind the behind the curtain, control of everything. 644 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.039 Yeah, it's nice to be the guest or the talent over here just 645 00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.519 kind of talking. I know, man, I'm used to in here's the 646 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:53.840 funny part. And there's some people in the in the clubhouse room. It 647 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:59.519 was in a room with us last night, but I'm always used to just 648 00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.199 kind of ride and Solo, like I just bring information, put information out 649 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.239 there and then when I'm get an interview somewhere, I'm like, how do 650 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:07.119 I what? I question? Do I ask? What's it good? You 651 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:12.480 know, I'm like overthinking the interview process, but it's been good, man. 652 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.599 So and we'll figure out the thing with, you know, my audio 653 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.159 set up in Bullhorn. I know I was pushing all kinds of buttons before 654 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.119 yea started. So I screwed something up. But but if you guys got 655 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.639 a couple more minutes, I just want to ask if anybody on clubhouse here 656 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.920 or anybody that's watching elsewhere has any questions, feel free to either drop them 657 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:35.079 in the chat or, being on a clubhouse, raise your hand, come 658 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:39.280 on up and we will and we'll do that. We'll answer a couple questions 659 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:43.320 or these guys will, if you have any. And if you don't, 660 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:46.800 then just be sure to reach out to support at Bull Horned on FM. 661 00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.519 is at the right email. Yeah, and you they should be able to 662 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:52.920 find out on the website as well. M Yeah, WE'RE HORN AT FM. 663 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:57.800 Yep, Yep. Okay, cool. Well, awesome guys. I 664 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.599 don't see that anybody else has any questions. So I really appreciate you I 665 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:06.679 look forward to our our long lasting relationship and as being a creator on the 666 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.400 bullhorn platform. And you know, I told you like yeah, might create 667 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.360 a show or two a week, and I think next week I'm doing five 668 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:16.679 backtoback shows or for for sure. It's just too much fun, man, 669 00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:21.039 so we'll see what happens. So this is kind of the kickoff of my 670 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:27.280 backtoback show series and I'm if I got plenty of opportunities to figure out that 671 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:31.360 tech issue that I cost. So be checking thosebos. I'm excited for the 672 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.960 shows next week and we'll be at podcast movement. So if anyone's listening, 673 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.119 that will be a podcast movement, stop by, say hi, take a 674 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.559 look at the booth and that's well. We'll both be there and we can 675 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.079 start recruiting some guests for you to billy if you need. If you need 676 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:50.199 some guests for next week as well. Yeah, man, anybody that's catering 677 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.320 the creators or a creator, I mean anybody really podcast, live streamer, 678 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.239 all the fun stuff, just looking for people to bring some value to do, 679 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.000 you know it, to build a community that's really this podcast all abouts 680 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:06.119 to do stuff like this, learn about different platforms and different tools to help 681 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.920 us be better well what we do and be better a craft. So awesome, 682 00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.639 man. We'll appreciate you guys so much and in that will wrap up 683 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.239 the interview part of this and just want to shout out to everybody who joined 684 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.320 us all over the the socials and all that kind of fun stuff. Be 685 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.559 Sure if you haven't follow us, wherever you have not followed us yet. 686 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.280 If you're on club house, make sure you follow the club. I start 687 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.679 a new club. Little light on the audience and probably learn a lesson about 688 00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:35.639 that. Pres should have handled a little better, but no big deal. 689 00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.559 And then also follow the Youtube Channel and if you're on facebook, keeper, 690 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:44.639 I already follow me if you're seeing this, because I know it's just my 691 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:46.719 mom. Okay, it's just my mom watching. That is it. And 692 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:50.840 remember got there, hit the record button, create something great, inspire some 693 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:55.239 other people. Your message matters and be checking us out every day next week, 694 00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:00.199 Monday through Friday, at two PM Eastern time, going to be I've 695 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.400 right here with creating for money or Monday morning show or Monday afternoon show. 696 00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.719 Rather, I'm going to be talking to a lady named Nikki who went from 697 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:14.119 senior executive to having one point two million followers on ticktock. She reached out 698 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:15.719 about some other stuff and I'm like, wait, what you have? What? 699 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:19.320 Okay, you're coming on my show. Let's do it Monday. So 700 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.000 she's coming on. I'm going to learn just as well as you, so 701 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:23.079 we'll see you guys there. All right, until then,