April 22, 2022

Business Talk: Creative Collaborations

Business Talk: Creative Collaborations

We are back with another "Business Talk" - Today's show is all about creative collaborations and how to set them up for success.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:05.599 Now here's something we hope you really like. You're listening to creating daily. 2 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:09.199 There's something wrong with you. You know that because you and I are like 3 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:12.880 a mullets. It is the is the business, so he's the front part 4 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:15.919 of the haircut and then I'm the party in the back. I think they're 5 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:22.719 hilarious. Speaks to me. It's like he's saying what I'm thinking. What 6 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:26.760 is going on everyone? I hope you are having an amazing Friday. I'm 7 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.280 having a lot of fun over here creating daily. I'm your host, Billy 8 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:32.920 Thorpe. In this is our twenty seventh episode, I believe. I don't 9 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:37.039 even care, I don't even count. We're here Monday through Friday, two 10 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:39.520 PM Eastern Times. If this is your first time checking us out, thanks 11 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.719 a lot for joining us. If you've been here before, thanks for coming 12 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:46.000 back. Got A great show lined up for you today. I got a 13 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:50.679 new friend to drop to new podcast that I'm really excited to listen to a 14 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.280 little bit of it. But before I get too far into the show and 15 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:57.960 a welcome my Friday cohost, the man the mid the legend, the digital 16 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.960 sells expert, the amazing entrepreneur, podcast host man, I screwed that part 17 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:04.760 up. Anyway, it's in meadows. Ladies and Gentlemen, what's up? 18 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:08.040 Said? How's it going, man, really, what's happening to did great 19 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:11.599 to be here with you. What did what did I do to deserve that 20 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.640 level of an introduction? What are you setting me up for now? I'm 21 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.599 just excited, man, I said, a lot of coffee today. It's 22 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:23.560 Friday. No, it's Friday A. I'm all excited. It's it's going 23 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.719 to be a good show. So I'm pretty excited. What do you been 24 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:27.120 up to this week? Man, I haven't talked to you. Every time 25 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.280 I do talk to you, it's just your busy, busy, busy. 26 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:32.680 So what you've been up to? It's been a busy week, man. 27 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:34.120 Had A lot of stuff going on, a lot of things I'm working on 28 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:41.760 internally in my business to set us up for even more success moving into the 29 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:45.040 summer. So really excited about some of the things I'm working on. So 30 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:48.959 it's going to be fun, man, or to come awesome, man, 31 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.040 while I was checking some sound levels there, while you're talking, I can 32 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:53.840 keep talking. I mean I can like make a monolog here. I mean, 33 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.480 you tell me, give me get to my get out run with it. 34 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.359 I know you will. Your pro man, your pro it's why I 35 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.840 have you on here every Friday. Cool Man. Well, I'm glad it's 36 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.640 been a good week. I've had a good week around here as well, 37 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:10.800 really productive finish up our first month of creating daily so congratulations. Yeah, 38 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:14.400 man, it was cool. It's you know, some people go, dude, 39 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.360 that's a ton of work, but I actually think it's the opposite. 40 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:21.479 I think it's less work because I don't really have, you know, days 41 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:23.400 in between two. If you know, if I was doing a weekly show, 42 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:27.599 I'd have like, you know, three to five, six days to 43 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.520 mole over ideas and be like, okay, maybe I'll do that, maybe 44 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.719 I won't, maybe I'll have imposter syndrome. But with a daily show, 45 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:37.879 it's like Hey, join me tomorrow to BEMC. Then now it's like I'm 46 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:39.439 on, like, no matter what, I'm coming on doing M's. I 47 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:44.199 got to figure it out. All Right, Civili, I'm curious what's been 48 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:49.199 like. Your top three takeaways from doing a daily show? My top three 49 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:53.039 takeaways is not as hard as everyone says it is. In the people who 50 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:54.680 say it is I probably never done it that's what I've noticed, because I 51 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.960 always asked where, Oh, have you done a daily show? I know, 52 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:00.400 I'm like, why do you know? It's hard? Um, so 53 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:04.000 I think that is I think that's one of my takeaways. It is not 54 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.240 as hard as it seems in you know, like you do all kinds of 55 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.479 stuff for an hour or two hours a day. So it's like you can 56 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:14.240 easily if you want to do it, if it's your you know whatever, 57 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.919 you can do it. So that would be one. And then I wish 58 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:21.599 I would have been doing a lot more interviews, because I really like we're 59 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.680 having a lot more conversations, because I'm not really like Oprah over here. 60 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:28.439 I'm not interviewing anyone, I'm just having a conversation or trying to. So 61 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.120 I think that was a couple things. Like, man, I wish I've 62 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:34.800 done that sooner, because it is to your point. I know you've said 63 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.520 this before. You have a lot more fun with someone else on the other 64 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.680 side of the mine. Yeah, and I do like running solo shows, 65 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:46.360 but I also enjoy, have enjoyed, the getting to know people and Networking 66 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:49.280 and all that. So it's been really, really fun. Yeah, I 67 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.680 would say that energetically as you think about how you show up, whether it's 68 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.199 on a podcast or a live stream or whatever you doing. There's more energy 69 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.080 when there's more than one person there. You can feed off of each other's 70 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.759 energy, kind of like we do. You bring me down, you bring 71 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:05.919 my actually, you bring you bring me down, you bring me all the 72 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:11.680 way down. Said like I'm I'm like drinking more coffee before these episodes because 73 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:14.360 you're so boring. Okay, I can solve that, billy. It's been 74 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:17.079 great to be here with you today, cads. Well, my time out, 75 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.600 I'm piecing out. Oh Man, that's so funny. Well, dude, 76 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:25.079 I as always on Fridays, we got some segments that we take care 77 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:29.560 of before we jump into our conversation. But I do have a takeaway, 78 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:32.680 or take this segment, from the previous four episodes this week. So I'm 79 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:42.079 going to go ahead and sway that scalable right, so you can literally sell 80 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:46.439 as many seats as you want to this sponsorship or to this membership program. 81 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:53.000 It's unlimited. A lot of people don't realize really how much significance they have 82 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:58.160 and how you can take your business to a whole new audience when you know 83 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.240 how to use hashtags. The right way to beauty of our platform is it 84 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:05.120 gets experts that power to go live at any moment. Right they're just bored, 85 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:08.560 they go live and see if their audience wants a change. Is Very 86 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:13.639 easy just to have an audience, but I think it becomes a community when 87 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:17.319 you go that step there and you stop being reciprocal and you're building a place 88 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:26.360 for them to congregate. Right there you go, says. So, if 89 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.680 you take aways from the week, I have an idea for you. I 90 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:33.399 love that. What a Great Week of lineup of guests you had this week. 91 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.399 Really hard to choose, like which one was my favorite, because they're 92 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:44.160 also good. But I mean, here's the problem with that. Take this. 93 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.040 You know the problem with it is? Well, well, I'll you 94 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.240 can say what you think. The problem is, we'll see. How's it? 95 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:55.720 Well, the problem is I'm not included in it. Oh Yeah, 96 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:59.120 well, as you do this, take this is the wrap up on Friday. 97 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:02.319 You should in flude me on the FRY. Mean being left out of 98 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:08.079 the I mean I'm the party in the back. It's city clear. I'm 99 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:11.639 the party in the back, first of all, and I do I do 100 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:15.040 include you said, I don't know if you see my social media after the 101 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.959 show or on Saturdays or somewhere. I do include you, I know, 102 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:21.879 but I'm not included on Youtube. I mean I should be included on Youtube. 103 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:27.439 I mean, yeah, you are in the last tigaway every week. 104 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:29.399 If I put them up there. I don't know if I'm put them up 105 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:30.240 there. I need to put them up there. It's a good idea. 106 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.319 Oh my God, I need to put out more content. You know, 107 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:38.800 I was thinking about Kane came on yesterday. We talking about building a community 108 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:41.759 and offering addational content. I'm like, Dude, I have no room to 109 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:45.399 offer additional content. It's for two dollars a month. I did hear that. 110 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:46.439 For Two dollars a month. Yeah, for a lituple. Your five 111 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.720 dollars a month, yea. Yeah, for five bucks a month, for 112 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:50.959 a couple bucks in month, whatever that looks like. So yeah, if 113 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:55.079 you guys didn't check out those episodes, go check them out. A lot 114 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:59.360 of a lot of great takeaways from those shows. And Katie came on talk 115 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.879 about hashtags. I share a little bit about my membership journey over the last 116 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.480 couple of weeks and it's been a lot of fun. See Me over here 117 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:09.600 in the chat. Says he's at the doctor's office. He might not be 118 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:12.240 on for too long. Well, hopefully all that goes well. You probably 119 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:15.360 get prostate exam or something going on. Imagine at your age, Nie. 120 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:21.439 So good luck with all that. And it's Friday. It's me. He's 121 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:26.160 not gonna come back to hat and who? WHO'S BILLY? I don't know 122 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:28.759 why people don't like this show more when it's a grim in the chat. 123 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:30.160 But if you're over the CHA, if you have any questions you want to 124 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.040 say hello, feel free to do that. If you have a question, 125 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:36.759 but q colon question and then if you're over here on bullhorn, they broke 126 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:41.040 it up for us. So there's questions and there's a chat section. So 127 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.680 that actually makes it really easy for us on this side to see what you're 128 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:47.800 talking about. Now get a couple more segments for you real quick. We'll 129 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.560 go over to some news. I haven't done this segment in a while. 130 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:58.480 That's news to me creating daily all right, said, so, starting today, 131 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:03.199 spotify has expanded, or is expanding, video podcast to all creators in 132 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.199 the US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and the UK. Creators will 133 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:13.120 the ability to upload their video content to spotify, with a little caveat, 134 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:18.040 through anchor, as easily as they already published their current audio episode. So 135 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:22.720 if you are a anchor user, you can. You can do that. 136 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.920 You can, you can go ahead and upload those videos. So all right, 137 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.200 I have a question about this. So why do you think that spotify 138 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:39.679 chose to only allow the video updates on their using their anchor platform rather than 139 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:41.840 the entire spotify? Why do you think they made that decision? Because they 140 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.120 want everyone to come over and play on their field, like it's like yeah, 141 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:50.200 Oh, you want that because it is appealing. It is appealing, 142 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.679 you know, just like just like bullhorn. So bullhorn is a podcast player 143 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.360 with video which I can go live on there. I can't upload to their 144 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.200 I don't think, unless they change something without my going, but I can 145 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.039 go live. We're live on there now. It's a podcast player, so 146 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:07.159 it's really cool. That's what I was always wondering, like why are people 147 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.919 not doing this? But Yeah, man, I think spotify wants people to 148 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:15.559 come over there and and then, and then I guess your podcast host, 149 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.559 like my podcast host, doesn't have video. Like I don't even know if 150 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:24.080 that's even possible, like if you could even so it's a place you that 151 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.039 I don't know. All right, there's a question. If I use anchor 152 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.720 and I do video podcasts and I upload it on my rss feed through anchor, 153 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.559 does the video go out to any other platforms that allow for video? 154 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:45.000 Are there any other podcast players that allow for video? That's good question. 155 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.440 I don't know. I don't watch, I don't. I consume on one 156 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.279 platform. Yes, I published on twenty. I consume on one same yea. 157 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.639 So I don't know. I think the answer is probably going to be 158 00:09:56.639 --> 00:10:00.639 no. I bet there's probably some kind of API integrations and all this kind 159 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.799 of stuff that they this is all new territory, which is pretty interesting because 160 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.240 youtube mention not too long ago, or kind of I don't know if leaked 161 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:13.840 it is the right word, but shared some documentation that they should that they're 162 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.919 going to look into putting podcasts on Youtube. So I think that would be 163 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:26.039 very interesting. And okay, so out of curiosity, I know anchors predominally 164 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.639 a free platform. Are they charging for this service? Is this part of 165 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:33.600 their package? Do I didn't look into it that far, it's be honest. 166 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:35.480 Okay, I heard it on Pod News. I'm like, Oh, 167 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.679 that's really interesting for people who use anchor. I've always been anti anchor by 168 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:45.080 just, you know, association with other podcasters who tell me like hey, 169 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:46.480 it's not a good idea. I'm never looked in the terms of service and 170 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.879 never looked at what they own versus what I own, all that kind of 171 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:54.919 stuff. And he says in the in the chat, podcast should be kept 172 00:10:54.960 --> 00:11:00.639 at audio only. So if it's, if then it becomes a video cast, 173 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:01.720 right, is that? What is that? We call it what it 174 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.960 has on, whatever you want. I call it content. Like people lose 175 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.679 their minds over this is so funny because of my it's not a podcast because 176 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:11.200 it's video and I'm like yeah, but I rip the Audio, I put 177 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:15.480 it on a podcast player, guess what, and now becomes a podcast. 178 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:20.279 Like maybe if you define podcast by this style of content and now you said, 179 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.240 Hey, this is this, this is how, like these elements make 180 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:31.399 a podcast, maybe that is the defining moment. But it's like I'm multipurpose 181 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.039 content all time. I'm like, technically this is a live stream show, 182 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.679 right, that's its or you know, that's its origin, is live stream, 183 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.679 but it gets uploaded as a video or it's automatical Appola as a video 184 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.720 on to, you know, makee. So maybe it's a vodka cast and 185 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.080 I rip the audio put it. Maybe it's a like, who cares? 186 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.200 I think everybody like this content, right. It's not like is this a 187 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:54.480 liver or not? Like it doesn't matter. Okay, it's content. It's 188 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.840 putting your message out there. So so Nie, just for the sake of 189 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.759 disagreement, I disagree you one hundred percent, obviously, because the video. 190 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:07.639 I'm video first. So well, maybe you should consider audio first. By 191 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:09.320 the way, that forehead sticking at still make it. Hey, man, 192 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.200 so this is not a forehead. This is like a five or maybe six 193 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.240 head. This has been this way my entire life. You know the good 194 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:18.240 thing about this, though, if you ever see it in person, I 195 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:20.840 could beat you death with it. That's it is its protecting. Well, 196 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.159 now that you're moving back to the states in a few weeks, hopefully have 197 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.039 that opportunity to meet one on one. We've never met, facetoface, I 198 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:30.919 know we haven't. So there irl, as they say, however, I 199 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.159 may not move back to North Carolina. I may move to Florida, and 200 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:39.159 I'll tell you why. After this creator highlight. Creator highlights new cooking necessary 201 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:43.240 and there assembly required. It's got to be fun, all right. Today's 202 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.679 creator highlight, first of all, is brought to you by our friends over 203 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:50.799 at one sheet pro so, go to onheet dot pro Billy Thorpe and you 204 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.919 can learn all about it. But it does have a new guest intake feature 205 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:56.600 which, by the way, said people can go to my one sheet. 206 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:01.039 So it's the number one sheet dot pro Billy Thorpe. Go to the live 207 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.600 stream creator creating daily and there's like apply to be a guest on there. 208 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.240 So if you are a creator and you want to be a guest on the 209 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.519 show, then go apply and I'll take a look and if we can, 210 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:15.600 if we can put together a good conversation, will bring you on here. 211 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:18.639 So that's a really cool thing. And basically one sheet, if you don't 212 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.240 know what it is, it's like a it's a one sheet. Obviously it's 213 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:26.679 like creator bio on steroids. It's like a beast thing. So anyhow, 214 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.879 what is going on here? Ha Ha ha, get that out of here. 215 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:35.919 Get that out of here. Hold on just a second. Said I 216 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.279 think I got a figure. Never give me a shout down for what sheap 217 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.679 pro. So I was gonna do my own. That never let you never 218 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.440 use mine. So I had my own. That's funny. Okay, one 219 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:50.240 sheet pro one she got pro slashed in meadows. I always put it in 220 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:54.840 the show notes so people can see it in the description. All right, 221 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.840 so this new podcast, this podcast, the I think the very first episode 222 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.919 drop today. Know they get a sizzle rill. I think there was a 223 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.200 trailer and a sizzle Rill, and now they have dropped Florida Man News. 224 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.919 Now this is brought to you by Florida podcast network. You guys know who 225 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:16.480 the producer is, producer producer Jimmy from Florid podcast network. She's a previous 226 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.039 person on the show here. And the host of the show is Joel, 227 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.440 Joel Louns. And instead of like telling you about the show said, I 228 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.200 wanted to play just a little piece of it because I think it I think 229 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.519 he's hilarious. So here we go. Here's a little piece of Florida Man 230 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:46.320 News. In pervy pickle poker news. A Florida man who found himself in 231 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.600 a proper predicament after police peeped a pickle and his pooper has played to indecent 232 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:58.080 exposure. According to court records, the forty seven year old. So there 233 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:03.120 you go. Anyway, Raven, last Friday we but we had this whole 234 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:07.679 laughing segment. Oh my God, you're doing it again. I can't even 235 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.480 believe it, Dude. When I heard the police officer peeped a pickle and 236 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:16.720 his pooper, I'm like, that is so good. So that wasn't the 237 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.039 first seconds of the first segment of the show. is about a lady who 238 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.360 is just button naked in this dudes pool when he came home. I mean 239 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.799 just the way it's told. Phenomenal job, Joel in, producer, Jimmy, 240 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.919 this show is funny. And I've only gotten to the second headline. 241 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.480 So literally, for Man News, the worst headlines from the sunshine state. 242 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:39.759 And all right, I can't wait now after hearing because I have I only 243 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.120 heard a little bit of the trailer that she put like out on out on 244 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:46.840 instagram. So that was it, the little clip. That's it. So 245 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:52.240 now I'm going to have to go listen to it today because that not even 246 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.080 thirty seconds, Dude, and I'm laughing. So that's gonna be awesome. 247 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.279 I know I was sitting there like that is the funniest line and I sent 248 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.440 it to my wife. I'm like, honey, you got to listen to 249 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.000 the show, and she like listens to and she's like, after hearing these 250 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:06.799 headlines, I think it may want to move back to and move back to 251 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:11.159 Floridas, to the North Carolina, because it sounds so much fun. So 252 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:12.799 well, you know, here's what I would think about that. I might 253 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.679 go listen to it. So, producer, Jimmy, congratulations on another show 254 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:21.639 in your network. That's pretty awesome. But we all need laughter and comedy 255 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:26.279 in our life and I appreciate Jimmy taking the lead there to provide a little 256 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.600 bit of humor because, you know, we just get caught up in the 257 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:33.759 rat race of life and the problems that our businesses or challenges in our whatever, 258 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.320 and it's good to be able to have a reprieve to go be able 259 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:38.879 to laugh at something so gosh man, is so fun. I was just 260 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.600 sitting there I'm like how many ideas I just get from listen to that one 261 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:45.159 show? I mean, of course I love stuff like that. I love 262 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:49.799 just the you know, like Jay Leno used to have this show called head 263 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:55.080 like the segment on his show like late night show called headlines and it was 264 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:56.519 stuff like but it was. It wasn't really stuff like that, but it's 265 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.080 like headlines that were just written the wrong way so when you like read them, 266 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.440 they sound so super I remember that. Yeah, oh my gosh, 267 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:06.839 dude. I mean I remember I was look in high school and I stay 268 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:11.200 up just to watch that on Monday nights and I'd be like crying laughing at 269 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:12.720 just the mistakes that were meant. You know, whatever's like. People being 270 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:17.480 people is so funny, man. So well, I think we should congratulate 271 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:22.559 Joel for being able to actually say those headlines and not with a straight face. 272 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.680 Yeah, we mis straight face, dude, because I couldn't even listen 273 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:29.160 to I mean I was literally in my office crying, texting producer Jimmy like 274 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.119 look, I'm losing it. I don't know if I can even listen to 275 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.319 the whole episode because this is so funny the way you guys have put it 276 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:37.960 together. So yeah, congratulations. It's out now, so go check it 277 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.720 out. Florida Man News in your podcast player. Producer Jimmy obviously as podcast 278 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:45.759 producer, so it's probably everywhere that you listen to podcast. Go check that 279 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:51.759 out. Super Cool. Super Cool to celebrate other people dropping cool, fun, 280 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:55.200 creative collaborations. I mean, obviously that's collaboration, which is what we're 281 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.920 talking about today. So soon let's let's chat a little bit about it. 282 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:03.720 Man. What is is a collaboration? Some people might not know what that 283 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.480 word means, but in case it's. It's a really great question. So 284 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:12.000 a collaboration is exactly this. It's when one or more people, are two 285 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:18.519 or more people, come together to collaborate or to engage together to do something. 286 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.039 So we are collapse. So it's when somebody starts a daily show the 287 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:26.519 other person just begs them for four days every single week to be on the 288 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:33.680 Friday show. That's personal. I've got to get them mute power on this, 289 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:37.160 because that's a straight up lie. This is me clear. The person 290 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.359 was begging. You were bagging me, like please, I need to get 291 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.079 you in. You got to have a weekly segment in my show and I 292 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.119 finally came and said, okay, do it on Fridays. I know, 293 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.160 man, it has nothing to do with the thousand dollars an episode I pay 294 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:52.720 you. I know, it's all right. I'm just kidding. By the 295 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:55.839 lab I don't I wish thank you. Pay Me a dollar or no? 296 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.519 I wish I got paid a dollar in episode. If I got paid a 297 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.400 dollar in episode, that would be awesome. So so, just a word 298 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:08.079 of advice to any creator out there that billy approaches. Run, don't walk, 299 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:14.119 runaway, wow, runaway, wow, wow. I don't even have 300 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.839 a sound effect for that one. Wait a minute, do my sound effects 301 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:21.240 play? No, they don't. Shoot. No, they do. You're 302 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:22.480 on your road caster. It's all right, you can hit what are you 303 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.279 sure they play? I'M gonna give you permission to hit one. Hang on, 304 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:27.559 hang on here, let's see. We got to get to the right 305 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.559 channel. Okay, can you hear this me? I need to know, 306 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:34.599 if you're watching on Youtube, if you can hear this. Yeah, we 307 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.519 can hear it, because that's like my favorite sound. You know what my 308 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:44.640 favorite sound is online? That's the sound of someone pink, let's say, 309 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.039 up. I mean, why did you record the audio? I didn't, 310 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.240 and it's like I don't want to hear that. It came off an epidemic 311 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:56.440 sound and it was for an intro to a podcast where a couple buddies and 312 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:00.680 I, we like get together collaborating on a Friday night and just kind of 313 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.720 have a couple drinks and sit underneath this car port and talk in every time 314 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.720 for the intro the episode. I'd play then, but gold on, guys, 315 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:14.279 I'm not ready or whatever. So Anyway, oh my gosh, all 316 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:19.640 this. Back on track to collaborations. All right, it's really when people 317 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.759 come together to work on a project or maybe start of work on something that 318 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.400 generates reven isn't always have to generate revenue, but it's when two people come 319 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:33.240 together to collaborate on an idea. Maybe it's to build out a book or 320 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:36.920 a document. People collaborate on books all the time. People collaborate on website 321 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:41.400 designs. We're collaborating and doing a live stream. People collaborate on podcast. 322 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.160 So there's a lot of different ways I think collaboration is used and it can 323 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.640 be a really, really good thing. It can. Yeah, I can't. 324 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.480 So let's jump into some pros. Man. So I wrote down some 325 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:55.400 pros that I think about right when I think about a collaboration, and the 326 00:20:55.400 --> 00:21:00.079 first thing I always think about is I'm kind of Lazy. So if if 327 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.279 I can collaborate on a project, well, I think we can get we're 328 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:04.359 more efficient. I wouldn't say I'm lazy. I just want to be the 329 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:08.759 most efficient possible. So if I'm splitting the workload or really, you know, 330 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:14.920 I instead of leaning heavily on me to manage everything, like this show 331 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:18.279 for instance, like I'm managing everything from production to all, you know, 332 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:22.640 everything, promotion, marketing, all the stuff. But if I'm cohosting a 333 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.119 show, which I cohost a fishing show every week, then my cohost and 334 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.319 I kind of figured out what our strengths were and we both like double down 335 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.440 on those strengths. And so now it's like, essentially I'm doing half of 336 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.279 the amount of work and I'm having way more fun. I got more time 337 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:40.319 with family, friends, all that kind of stuff. So I think get, 338 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:42.000 you know, at face value. Like that's one of the fun things, 339 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:45.519 is the collaboration process for me is like, okay, it's not as 340 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:49.880 much workload on to myself and then I just like working with people. So 341 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:52.480 it's a way more fun, you know, in the long run. Like 342 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.039 I love having a cohost on the show. I love having Katie on Tuesday's 343 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.519 you on Fridays. It just makes life a lot more fun. So that's 344 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.920 kind of one of my front things. What about you? So there's a 345 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:08.160 con to that very thing though. So those of you that have gone to 346 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.559 college, and if you've gone to college, you probably got put into a 347 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:18.640 group exercise or group project they had to work on as a group. Sorry 348 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.000 for everyone I went to college with because I was this guy and there's one 349 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:27.079 or two people in the group that don't do the group project. Yeah, 350 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:30.920 yeah, and the weight gets carried by the other people that want a good 351 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:36.000 grete. In some cases it can be one person that carries the wait because 352 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:38.000 nobody else is participating in we got one person wants to make sure they get 353 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:41.920 that a and everybody else has comes along for the ride, and so there 354 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:47.160 can be a con to that as well. But I do agree that distribution 355 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:52.000 of workload is a really good thing as relates to sharing the responsibilities when you 356 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:53.920 are doing a collaboration. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think that 357 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.240 is a pretty good in both of those and I think it will jump into 358 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:02.680 kind of qualifying people and sure you know kind of how you do that, 359 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:04.720 how I've done that in the past as well. Another thing that I think 360 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:08.559 is really good for collaboration specially, and I'm talking more from the podcast for 361 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:14.960 perspective, it maybe even live streaming perspective as well. Is like the reach, 362 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.920 the extended network, the reach, you know, it's to people, 363 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.599 promoting something to people, you know, kind of going after the same thing 364 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.599 as far as like growth of the business or growth of the show or whatever. 365 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.759 So I think that's like a really good, you know, pro as 366 00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:32.119 well. It's like, Hey, want to get US double the amount of 367 00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:37.319 promotion going on out the gate. I agree with that. And the more 368 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.279 reached you can get whatever you're doing, whether it's a podcast or a live 369 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:44.039 stream, whatever you're doing. That increases your reach but also then leads to 370 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:48.000 in more impact or more engagement, is also really good. But you know, 371 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.680 I'll throw another thing in here, billy, that I think is a 372 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:57.839 really good pro of a collaboration is your ability to do something new that maybe 373 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:03.000 you haven't done before, for and you come together with somebody that has done 374 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.880 something before, and so you're you're learning about it, but yet you're doing 375 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.680 it together. So I think that's another real benefit. But another, I 376 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:18.880 think, even at tagging onto that, another benefit would be two together doing 377 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.440 something brand name. Yeah, maybe you both had the idea, well, 378 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.000 I wanted to do this and you wanted to do that and there was a 379 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.440 maybe your version was a and his version was be and you came together and 380 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.480 you got two version C obviously you had a real, really cool product. 381 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.960 So it could lead to, I think, new products, new ideas, 382 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.880 new programs and new services, things like that. Yeah, man, more 383 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.920 brains are better than one brain, or more or how are they said? 384 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.599 I don't know what the old saying is, but yeah, I will be 385 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:45.759 a hundred percent, and that's why you're on the show. Like said, 386 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.599 doesn't how to go live. He met me, we were collaborating, so 387 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.839 now I can. That is a lie. Dude, I get a little 388 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:59.759 last night. I gotta, I gotta get a little metal lie counter for 389 00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:03.240 he me done. We should on one screen will have that's a lie counter 390 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.480 and then the other scream will have old jokes, old jokes. Yeah, 391 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.640 okay, that's first between you and me. I'm screwed when it comes to 392 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:15.599 old jokes being dropped on the live stream. Today I had another really good 393 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:19.480 pro and you made us it because if a lie, because of the lie 394 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:25.119 the lie guy, so in another so I love that pro because it is 395 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:29.680 like, Hey, bring your experience to my experience and then let's you know, 396 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.720 get it more profound on this idea. And then, you know, 397 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:37.240 that was in my situation with my second fishing podcasts. That was a situation 398 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.880 there, like the guy on partner with now, he has all these captain 399 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.519 relationships, all these relationships in the fishing community, has been doing fishing reports 400 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:52.519 for like twenty years and we were able to use those relationships to produce content 401 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.160 and to bring those people on the show, help them promote their business and 402 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.799 then also help us promote our show and build the content for our show. 403 00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.000 And then, on the flip side, he's not a tech guy. His 404 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.000 fishing reports aren't delivered on a media platform. They're delivered, you know, 405 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.200 an older medium. But we were able to take my skill set of, 406 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:15.799 you know, all this techy stuff I do and really bring those two worlds 407 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:21.720 together and launch a podcast and now a membership, which both are revenue generating 408 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.359 projects for us, and we're both like hey, man, this is great, 409 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.880 like this a great relationship that we have and a great collaboration. So 410 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:32.359 that's you know, that's a something to really think about, even if you're 411 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:34.880 like way different in age and people and all that stuff, because my coast 412 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:40.319 and are different in age. Probably think differently about most things in life, 413 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:44.480 but we're able to meet on that Middle Road and collaborate and go go in 414 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.039 the same direction. So it's pretty good. Well, I love how you 415 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:51.599 highlighted skill set, like you're techy, you get it. He's not, 416 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.440 but he's got content and you come together and you produce something really great and 417 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:59.160 really effective and it's growing and growing and making money and growing. And so 418 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.680 that the there are a lot of opportunities for people to come together with different 419 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:07.480 strengths and different weaknesses to pull off something very effective. Yeah, absolutely, 420 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.240 Man. So when we when we're setting up of a collaboration, I know 421 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.640 you and I we've actually done this. We've actually set up a collaboration for 422 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.559 a business to kind of test the market, go out do a lot of 423 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:25.480 research around a certain market to see if it would work in oftentimes made a 424 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:29.799 mistake that I've made in the past, and I'll go kind of my first 425 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:34.160 podcast, my first fishing show, is I just went full steam at it, 426 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.119 full steam, as fast as I could, as hard as I could. 427 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:41.680 I didn't think about the details. I didn't think about agreements or any 428 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.839 of that stuff. And you know, I think my if my cohost then 429 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.599 and I both sat down in the same room and had a really honest conversation. 430 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.559 We probably be like man, we both got worked over it in a 431 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.200 certain sense. So how do we? How do we set up a really 432 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.880 successful or how have you seen it? And maybe I'll share like how I've 433 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.799 done it as well. But how have you set up a really successful collaboration 434 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.319 where it's you know, we're are some key components to that. So I 435 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:12.119 think to me, what the single most important component to a collaboration? There's 436 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:21.480 two of them, open and effective communication and trust, and without those two 437 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:26.000 things I don't think it could move forward very well. Right, you got 438 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:27.400 to be able to talk about things, you got to be able to hash 439 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:32.279 out the details of the collabor ration, the financial aspects of it, the 440 00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:36.839 responsibilities, and if you can't have that discussion like grown, mature adults, 441 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.799 then what the heck are you doing in a collaboration? So I think even 442 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.200 that process, billy, will highlight whether or not it's going to be successful 443 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.960 or not. Right. Yeah, yeah, man, if I could go 444 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.240 back and look at some of the pre conversations to a collaboration, there's a 445 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.680 couple I would have dipped out on before they ever happened, because I just 446 00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.720 knew, I knew in my gut, and that's another thing is like kind 447 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.920 of follow your gut in this process, because you might just go like this 448 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:07.079 feels like I'm taking a shower with my socks on. Is feels weird, 449 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.880 and I think if I would have paid more attention to that feeling versus the 450 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.920 carrot in the sky, I would have been way better off, and so 451 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.400 would the person I was collaborating with them. And I haven't had a lot 452 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.279 of collaborations burned, but there's been a couple that I went down, you 453 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.200 know, went south pretty quick, and I do think that is the key 454 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:29.880 to the collaboration I'm in now, and I'm in several collaborations, by the 455 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.119 way. I'm not just in one collaboration, I'm in several. I get 456 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:34.720 I get a partner on my Mazon live business, have a partner in my 457 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:40.319 fishing podcast, I'm collaborating with a couple of cohost on this show and all 458 00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:44.880 those are producing different results for different people. But I had those upfront honest 459 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:48.240 conversations of like hey, this is what what we're you know, this is 460 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.720 the direction that we got to go or I want to go and you want 461 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:52.480 to go, and what do you want out of this and all that, 462 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:57.160 but it is tough and you will get into those moments and go, like 463 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.319 I know, even with the collaboration I have now, we still have those 464 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.599 moments. Probably you know it was like, Hey, did we just got 465 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.960 to have a business conversation, all emotions off the table. Here's a problem, 466 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.359 we need to solve it. How we're going to move forward, how 467 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:15.119 we going to break this thing up and but what we do is the hard 468 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.079 stuff up front and it's easier as it continues to go because we have all 469 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.279 these expectations listed out. Now. Are you like a big contract guy? 470 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.440 Are you going to your lawyer and flying people in and signing papers? Are 471 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.519 you write in the email kind of getting it started and then laws? There's 472 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.640 a couple of things I will say to that, but first I want to 473 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:38.240 go back real quick to the the last topic, which is I was talking 474 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.720 about doing a collaboration with a lady that I've known for many, many years. 475 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.359 We work together years ago. We both have our own businesses, we 476 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:51.440 both have for many years worked in the same industry and we wanted to collaborate 477 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.799 like we wanted to. And then the more we talked about it, the 478 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.640 more we had zoom calls or phone calls about it. What we realize, 479 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.279 as we kept getting closer and closer to understanding it, is her goals were 480 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:08.119 different than michaels and what she wanted to do and create with her business was 481 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:12.319 different than what I wanted to do in create with mine. We realize this 482 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:17.680 not a good fit, this is not going to work, and so we 483 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.000 parted ways in the collaboration. We decided, hey, this is not going 484 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:22.680 to work, we don't need to do it, so let's go on. 485 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.960 It was maintain our friendship and our relationship we've had for twenty years and not 486 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.559 do this type of relate, this type of libration. So that part, 487 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.799 that discovery, that open conversation, I think, and honest conversation the beginning 488 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.240 is what leads to those type of results. Yeah, now you back and 489 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:44.039 answer your question about the contracts and all that. Here's my thought about this. 490 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:52.200 If you have to get an attorney involved for legal documents and all this, 491 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:57.119 therefore, who, as state of this does Blah Blah, you're creating 492 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.799 a business, not a collaboration. Okay, Gotcha. All right, creating 493 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:07.279 a business makes sense. So would you say a collaboration is like, Hey, 494 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.119 said, I'm working on this, the stuff. I got my own 495 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:13.440 business. You're working on this. You got your own business, but our 496 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:19.640 world's kind of collide here. Let's let's work together and kind of build something 497 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.160 that. Now, sure, is that kind of how you would view a 498 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:29.200 collaboration versus a business? It is, but if it turned into something that 499 00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.799 became a business, then I would say we need more legal documents. I 500 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:36.200 think you need a document, I think you need a plan, I think 501 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.319 you need an outline of what you're going to do, how you're going to 502 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:43.160 do it, who's responsibilities? Let's take a podcast, right. We've talked 503 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.440 many times about doing a podcast together. You keep chickening out because you're scared 504 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:52.799 of another podcast. Understand all those reasons why you just couldn't go daily because 505 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:59.079 you're weak. But though, but you know, we've talked about it. 506 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.720 We sure, and we could do a one page document that just out outlined 507 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.200 what our collaboration look like. Who's responsible for what? WHO's finding guess? 508 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.599 Who's doing this, who's doing that? If it got to a place of 509 00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:15.160 that podcast was monetized and bringing in revenue. We need to take that document 510 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.480 to another level. Right. If we decided we wanted to take that podcast 511 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.880 and create another business out of it or bring it into a business of some 512 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.599 sort, then we need to go to an attorney. So my I guess 513 00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.920 my point with all that is use your best judgment as where you are in 514 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:36.880 the steps of your collaboration, as to how legal you need to make this 515 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.720 or how formal that you need to make this collaboration. That makes sense, 516 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.119 Bill? Yeah, no, I love it and I think it brings another 517 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.720 point to mind. Like in this depends on your partnership to like it, 518 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.400 I know, like you, and I said to keep us as the example, 519 00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:54.039 I'm a running gun, jump out of someone else's plane, light my 520 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.920 parachute up and trying to build my own plane on the way down and hope 521 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.920 it all works out. You are let's build the plane, test the plane, 522 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.240 build a plane, test to plane. You know. I mean maybe 523 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.759 you're not to that extent. Oh, I will own that. I will 524 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.559 run so so like maybe a little bit of more of a perfectionists to where 525 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.360 I'm just like hey, let's throw the mud on the wall. If it's 526 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.800 sticks, will keep throwing the same mund. Okay, time out, Tome 527 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:22.000 out. So pre show here you're like lining up the boxes to make sure 528 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.679 that they're both the same height and the same size. Because it was good. 529 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.599 I started the show in three hours. Okay, my thos people take 530 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.840 three. I know people who have been one of started podcasts for three years. 531 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:37.480 I started this getting an e three. Not Call yourself a perfectionist because 532 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.519 you have those tendencies to be a perfectionist. Not on the launch, man, 533 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.039 rough I was. It was rough, it was, it was, 534 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.480 it was muddy. Sure, still is, but I agree. We are 535 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.480 polar opposites. Right, I need to plan more, which I hey, 536 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.880 I'm gonna fully met. That slows me down and launching things, and then 537 00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:00.000 you just like won't let's do it. However, oftentimes you, you know, 538 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.159 strategize, maybe you can see some bumps in the road that I just 539 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.920 hit them and it wrecks me for a minute, versus like Oh, I 540 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.159 know how to get over this bump because I kind of pre saw it, 541 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.800 and the pre planning stay just where. I'm like, Oh God, there's 542 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.920 this bump, like what happened in front of my car. But I do 543 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.559 think that you know this is something to consider, like personality types and how 544 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.480 do you work with people, and maybe you do a tester or project. 545 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:29.000 So instead of just going hey, let's full on do this podcast, you 546 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.480 know, because I wanted to start a podcast network or a radio show when 547 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:36.440 I was doing this, you know, before I started creating daily and I 548 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.760 went through all the motions of talking to people and bringing creators into my circle 549 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.920 and said, hey, here's what I want to do, and then I 550 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.159 quickly realize like, Oh, this is a billy project, this isn't a 551 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.719 community project. I'm the one who's most passionate about it and I can bring 552 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.039 other creators on along the journey as guests or, you know, our cohost 553 00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.960 or whatever. But it was going through that, that process of having those 554 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.599 conversations and and saying, Hey, what do you think about this? And 555 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.639 and it's good. I love what you said about you and your friend. 556 00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.639 It's like get in the middle of it. I don't care if you spent 557 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.199 ten hours hashing out what this could look like and then you get to the 558 00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.800 end of ten hours and go, you know what, I like you better 559 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:15.320 as a friend that I do like, because I'm going to kill you if 560 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:21.239 we do you know? You'll know. You'll kind of know early on if 561 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.320 you pay attention and be, you know, super honest with yourself and and 562 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.840 don't be afraid to hurt feelings. I think that's a big right. So 563 00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.360 you just said something I think is really important. Is You got to pay 564 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:35.440 attention and you got to listen to your gut, because I've been in collaborations 565 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:44.639 that I thought were successful, that I thought were working, but they weren't 566 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.280 really working, and so I had a little bit of a blinder on, 567 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.760 but my God was telling me, Hey, this is some don't feel right 568 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.000 about this. I've been feel right about this and so you know it. 569 00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.360 I should have listened, because I stayed in the collaboration a lot longer than 570 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.800 I needed to. I got screwed out of some money. That's happened to 571 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:07.960 you before. That person still owes me a quite a bit of money. 572 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:12.199 That will never I'll never see that money. But I should have listened to 573 00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:15.760 myself and I should have paid attention to what I saw, the signs of 574 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.000 it going south, and I should have ended it and I should have ended 575 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.880 it the right way rather than letting it in the wrong way. Yeah, 576 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.719 so you got to listen to your gut. You got to pay attention to 577 00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.920 the signs are in front of you too. Yeah, man, I think 578 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.960 that's good and it's part for the course. When you do and collaborations like, 579 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.360 Oh yeah, the thing. It's kind of like saying, Hey, 580 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:36.800 I'm gonna you know, once your parents, if you're younger, list if 581 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.159 you're listening to you're younger and your parents allow you to day, you're going 582 00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:42.159 to get heartbroken a few times. It just going to happen. Just part 583 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.960 of you know, just like it's just going to happen in so same thing 584 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:51.639 in business. Ending collaborations like nothing. I don't care what university you go 585 00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:52.639 to or what they tell you how life is going to happen. It just 586 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:57.480 doesn't happen that way. And so you got to be prepared and willing to 587 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.800 say, all right, I'm willing to risk this relationship, and I think 588 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.360 that's the biggest thing that I've learned. You know, throughout this process I'm 589 00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.000 like, am I really willing, at the end of the day, to 590 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:12.440 not be this person's friend because of this project? And that sounds terrible and 591 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.360 it's not like that under value the friendship or not, but it's literally like 592 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:21.400 Hey, man, is this idea so great that if it goes south that 593 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.480 and we get pissy with each other and never talk to each other, then 594 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:27.840 it's okay, and you got to be okay with that, however, solutely, 595 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:29.960 I think, if you set it up the right way, have those 596 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.840 really super open, honest conversations and really the expectations, man, and I 597 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.199 think this is where I messed up in my first you know, fishing podcast 598 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.920 was we went after it, man, we're doing a live show just like 599 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:45.159 this every Monday night, seven pm or Tuesday or whatever it was, and 600 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:49.239 we were rocking and we're having fun and it was great. And then I 601 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.840 just had expectations of doing a business. My friend had expectations of just growing 602 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:59.079 his already existing business in that fishing space, and we just didn't see eye 603 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.079 to eye. And then also, I mean in full transparency, like I 604 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:05.599 think you have to be transparent with yourself. Is Like I had some you 605 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:07.679 know, other goals in mind for businesses that I wanted to be a part 606 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.920 of and some other stuff that I was working on, and so just made 607 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:14.960 the most sense for me to go hey, I'm out, you buy my 608 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:16.880 portion, either I buy the show or you buy the show and let's just 609 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:20.519 goard different ways, like there's no sense. And Yeah, you know, 610 00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:22.440 and unfortunately that guy and I are not really friends. I mean, if 611 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.719 we saw each other out, we'd preshake hands and you know whatever, chat 612 00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:29.280 and all that. Yeah, we'd be cordial, but it wouldn't be like 613 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:30.639 hey, dude, let's go hang out, let's get the families together, 614 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:35.239 you know, because it was messy and it's unfortunate. So it happened, 615 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.000 but this is this is the good, bad and ugly of collaboration. So 616 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.400 we're put it all out here. Well, and in that point it exists. 617 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.079 The good, the bad and the ugly duck do exist in a collaboration 618 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:50.159 and to me it's I think a little bit about like playing in the stock 619 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:57.400 market or buying crypto or in FT's whatever it is. You don't invest more 620 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.280 than you're willing to lose. So you go into it. I if you're 621 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.440 in the Stock Martin, you say stock market and you say, okay, 622 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.079 I'm going to put tenzero into the market, and that means to me you're 623 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.000 willing to lose tenzero based on the flexibility of the market. Right, yeah, 624 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:14.400 so what you're just saying billity is you go into this collaboration, you 625 00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.280 know potentially, worst cases, you're going to lose this friendship. Is that 626 00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:22.679 collaboration potentially worth losing that friendship? And I think it's it's great to have 627 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:29.320 those conversations with yourself just so that you have it and that you know what 628 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:34.159 potentially is at risk. Yeah. So so when you're putting this agreement together, 629 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.719 man, what are some things that you're putting on them? What some 630 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.079 of the thing I wish I'd brought because you and I have one I wish 631 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:44.719 I'd brought it up. I didn't. But what are some some key things 632 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.119 that you're like, just don't leave these things out. Make sure they're in 633 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.960 there. Makes you talk about them. So I would say roles of responsibilities, 634 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.760 the financial aspect. How are you going to share if there's money involved, 635 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.400 how do you share the money? How the money gets collected? Those 636 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.199 kinds of things. Like, if you're, you know, going to do 637 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.280 things like expenses, how do the expenses get covered? Who covers them? 638 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:08.920 You know, how do you cover them jointly? Those kinds of things, 639 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:15.320 and I do think it's important to at a minimum, outline what it looks 640 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:21.360 like. Should your relationship come to an end or should this into should be 641 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.679 two options of this. It ends based on we plan to do this for 642 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.760 one year. One year's over. This is what happens when the relationship in 643 00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:35.159 the collaboration ends. The second aspect of that is the collaboration gets blown the 644 00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:40.079 UP, and this is what we agreed on that. This is how we 645 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.920 would respond and this is what we would do together if it were to be 646 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.599 blown up like that. So you know, cover the basics, include what 647 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.320 it looks like when that, when it comes to an end. However, 648 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.960 it comes to an end and then, you know, everybody get a copy 649 00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.639 of it, sign a copy of it, put it in a share it. 650 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.840 Just make sure you have a an edited version. She's me a unedible 651 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:07.320 for version, like a PDF, signed that somebody can't sneaking behind you and 652 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.559 change that. We said Yeah, because people do that. Speaking of trust, 653 00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:15.079 can a trust you with it at a prove PDF? Well, make 654 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.920 sure you one thing did I think you said that I was going to mention 655 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.920 if you didn't, was put a timeline on this thing. You know, 656 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.239 I think a lot of times and collaborations and partnerships we think, well, 657 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.480 we're going to sign up for this podcast and it's going to be for eternity, 658 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.239 you know, or whatever. It doesn't put three months, but put 659 00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:35.199 three months, six months, twelve months. When my partner and I got 660 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.480 together on our on our podcast, this last one, you know, I 661 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.760 said, Hey, man, I'm in for a year. You know, 662 00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:44.679 we're both in for twelve months. Let's do this project for twelve months. 663 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:46.960 Let's see what the results of it are. Is it worth the investment of 664 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:50.960 time, energy, time, because because if I'm spending time on this, 665 00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.000 I'm not spending time on something else. And so we did that and after 666 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.599 the first year we came back mad a business meeting. Were like, Dude, 667 00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.960 this is rock and rolling, like let's keep, you know, keep 668 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.440 going. Same thing. We just launched a membership group couple weeks ago. 669 00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.559 It was the same thing, like hey, we're in it for a year. 670 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.039 We're going to sell a year membership. We're in it for one year. 671 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:13.360 Let's see what happens. And so, you know, it's been it's 672 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:15.800 worked out and I think it makes you I think when you know you have 673 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.679 an out, it doesn't feel like so much pressure, specially for your personality, 674 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.960 like my personality is like. If I feel trapped, dude, I'm 675 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:30.920 I'm calling already before I ever get the only objection that I have to that 676 00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:36.320 is in your case, you were begging me and you were desperate for me 677 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.440 to come back every week. I said I would only do show with you 678 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.559 for one week. You just can't at please come back on Fridays. I 679 00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.719 need you on Friday. So here I am. I'm every Friday. So 680 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.920 you know, I let you beg me into this. Let me see that 681 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.440 email orsus like man, you've blown my audience up. I'm at four hundred 682 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:57.960 percent growth like this is amazing. That's what I've done for you, right. 683 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.920 Yeah, it exactly everything to get on the show. I get two 684 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.079 people instead of one watching you. Doesn't come back to my side real quick. 685 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:09.679 Yeah, what is sheep pro you just putting me get it straight. 686 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:14.119 You're trying to get in first place. So much on that. I'm getting 687 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.199 close, man. I'm moving up the ladder. I'm moving up the ladder. 688 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:21.360 But I want to say something else about this. Be sure that you 689 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.800 understand that a collaboration what it is, and that when a cleveration becomes a 690 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.239 business, yeah, right, it's good when does it become a business? 691 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.519 Yeah, after a certain amount or I think it becomes a business when day, 692 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.559 when you're talking about financial statements and you're talking about investments and you're talking 693 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:43.239 about profits and loss and I need to put five grant in and you need 694 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.199 to put five grant in in order to make this work. That's moved beyond 695 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:50.079 a collaboration. Okay's to business. Yeah, right, that makes sense. 696 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.440 Well, I like that to make because people always ask me like hey, 697 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.639 I want to start this business, I'm going to go get my this, 698 00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:00.480 that and another thing at business license and all this paperwork and trademark in all 699 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.000 and Blah Blah, blah, Blah Blah. I'm like, Dude, go 700 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.480 out there and try to sell that thing first, like trying to get a 701 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:10.039 sale or to make like six hundred twozero bucks, then go out here and 702 00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:15.199 do all the paperwork. But so what you're saying is testing your you want 703 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.880 to test the Argy. Yeah, that's the strategy. To See if it 704 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.119 works and if it does, then and go do something different. Yeah, 705 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:23.599 I mean that's like you and I. We had that project. We've put 706 00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.719 it on the back burner now, but that was a part of the conversation 707 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.639 and we had it was in and we made a time commitment, but then 708 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.360 both of our lives got a little busier, some stuff happen, and so 709 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.760 we just came back together and said, Hey, man, is this working 710 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.039 out? Like, Hey, let's just put this on the back burner. 711 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:44.000 Let's Relok at it when certain markets change, because right now the markets that 712 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.840 we want to serve a really hot. They don't really need our product, 713 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:50.000 and let's let's kind of figure this out. And same thing. You know, 714 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.159 I'm going to collaboration with my friend John of run Amazon live. We're 715 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.519 both super busy. I don't even live in the states. I came and 716 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.719 do a brand deal to get product or anything, and some like hey, 717 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.159 man, we don't have to do a weekly call and just talk about what 718 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.199 we don't have time to do. Just put them on the back burner. 719 00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:07.400 Will put this state on the counter, will come back and revisit. And 720 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:13.159 so I would say too, like in your collaboration relationships, just be flexible. 721 00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.440 You know, I think, I think flexibility. If you're not flexible, 722 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:17.800 you're just going to break, like that's the thing. Like anything it's 723 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.599 not flexible, just going to break. And so the more flexibility that you 724 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.599 can allow yourself to have in the more grace for the other person or other 725 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.159 people in that collaboration, the longer that relationships going lasts in general. So 726 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:36.880 that would have some something to add to them. Point was great. Here's 727 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.840 what I'll add to it. Just because you can do a collaboration doesn't mean 728 00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.360 you should. Okay, so this is a good this is might be a 729 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.639 good place to land the plane here, because we're at forty eight minutes and 730 00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.039 some change. Forty nine. Gonna talk a lot. So we talk a 731 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:59.400 lot, you talk a lot's my show. That's what I do. I 732 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:04.599 don't need to talk all week everybody all week. I can finally done Friday. 733 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:09.840 Let's go. Let's see. So so how do you? How do 734 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.760 you figure out? Do you need somebody else? Is it based on lack 735 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.199 of skills? Is it based on like knowledge? Is it just based on 736 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:22.000 loneliness? Like what? This makes you all great questions. To do that? 737 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.320 All great questions, and here's the answer to that question. You're the 738 00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:29.400 only one that knows the answer to the question. You're the only person that 739 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:34.559 knows why you're doing it. If you're doing it because you're lonely and that's 740 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.440 the only reason that you're doing it and you need another person in your life, 741 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:42.800 you need somebody in your business. You just that you need then I 742 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.639 would tell you, before you do that, go hire a coach, go 743 00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.039 talk to somebody about that. Be Sure that you understand why you're doing it. 744 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:53.079 But you know, it's just one of those things that just because you 745 00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:58.000 can do it doesn't mean you should and don't. Definitely don't do it out 746 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:02.400 of fear or out of loneliness or out of being scared. But the only 747 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:07.199 person that can answer the question as to why I should do this is you, 748 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.760 that individual. And if you're struggling with it, talk to a coach. 749 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.400 Journal about it, you know, listen to other you, listen to 750 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.880 their podcast, meditate on it, whatever it is, do something to discover 751 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:22.639 whether it's the right thing for you or not. Yeah, man, I 752 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.960 think a lot of the stuff is like it's not analytics, just gut. 753 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.639 It's just like, okay, what's in my gut when I feeling? How 754 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:31.639 am I feeling about this? And really look at what you want to do. 755 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.599 Like, and I would say this for any creator, like if you 756 00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.920 have an ideal, like I had an idea for creating daily I really wanted 757 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:43.880 to bring other creators in. I reach out to CITAD. I was like, 758 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.440 Hey, is there any way? You know you want to do a 759 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.800 podcast. But the more that I started flushing out the idea and what I 760 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.960 wanted to accomplish, I just knew, like, this isn't going to be 761 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.199 a good project for both sin and I together. He can be a part 762 00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:57.519 of it, but he's not going to want to go alive every day, 763 00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.239 and neither or the other people I reach out to and talk to, and 764 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:06.039 I understood that. And so either that idea had to die with me and 765 00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.639 I was going to lean on other people to make this happen, or is 766 00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.599 going to say, man, I just want to create a daily show and 767 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:14.239 I'm just going to do it and if I fail, great, you know, 768 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.800 if I succeed, awesome. And I still don't know if I'm failing 769 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:20.079 or succeeding. I don't even know how to track this stuff with the day 770 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.679 of the show. So we'll see. What I'm doing, what I want 771 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.280 to do, and I'm also bringing other people in. So doesn't have to 772 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:30.280 be a hundred percent collaborations either. It can be once a week, clubs 773 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.320 once a month. Collaborations. You know, I'm doing collaborations every single day 774 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.920 with somebody on my show, except for maybe one day a week. You 775 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.280 know, having a guest on your show is a collaboration. HAVE ANY GUESS? 776 00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:44.079 Coming to Your Business, having a coach in your business, is a 777 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.360 collaboration. So Yeah, man, I love this conversation. I think collaborations 778 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.840 are powerful. I don't think it's the US for no more business model. 779 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.760 I don't think we can make it if it's just that way. And I 780 00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:59.239 think you know, I don't know if this is a hundred percent true. 781 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:00.000 Maybe it is, maybe it it's not, but it's like, show me 782 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.480 your network and I'll show you your net worth. And I think the more 783 00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.360 people that you you don't have to work with everyone, but the more people 784 00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.000 that you play Nice with will you become a referral resource for you in your 785 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:15.119 company. So well, I guess the last tip I'll give before we wrap 786 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:21.239 up today is start small, take baby steps and go through the process. 787 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.119 Get to know each other, do small collaborations before you jump into something big. 788 00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:28.159 Right, get to know each other, get to build that trust, 789 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.679 but always, always, always, listen to your gut. And do your 790 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:37.599 homework. Do Your Homework, do your research right, make sure people, 791 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.199 make sure people are who they say they are. Do you research. That's 792 00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:44.920 good, man. So from a content creator perspective, I'll give a couple 793 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.480 ways and then maybe you can think of some business ways. But small collaboration 794 00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.480 opportunities for content creators. Audio, audio rooms great. So like social media 795 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:58.960 rooms, guests posting on Ig's, like collaborate on an IG story or a 796 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:02.639 real or tick tock for real. Collaborate on something like that. Collaborate on 797 00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:06.400 a couple of live shows or collaborate like sit and there. It's like once 798 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.199 a week, like he's coming on my show, if you have a daily 799 00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:12.559 show, some of that nature. So that's kind of like for creators. 800 00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.960 What about for business owners? Like is it like a product? Okay, 801 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.880 so I think there's a couple options here. You know, I just did 802 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.360 a collaboration recently with my sponsor of my podcast, or one of my podcast. 803 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.719 Okay, they took over my podcast. That was a collaboration, right. 804 00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:30.840 They took over my podcast for a month and it turned out really, 805 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:36.199 really good and it worked and it was really successful. That's a collaboration in 806 00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.039 a business perspective, because my sponsor is a business. He took over my 807 00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:43.480 podcast, which is also a business, and so I think another thing might 808 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.199 be is school that you can do collab yeah, you could do a collaboration, 809 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:51.880 like on a product design, like you could. Hey, billy, 810 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.840 I would love for you to design a t shirt for my business, sign 811 00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.400 the art on the bottom and I'm going to pay you royalties. That's a 812 00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:01.800 collaboration, right to crabby collaboration. I would never do that, by the 813 00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:07.840 way, because you suck at being an artist. Build over my wife. 814 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.920 Will you signatures my life if my wife is watching her as going to buster 815 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:13.719 that tour and like, give me sit, give that microphone. Tell us 816 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:19.320 about royalties and artists like to take what I'm worth. But I also think 817 00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.960 a collaboration, like I'm in a collaboration right now, billy, between three 818 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:30.760 consultants, and the three of us came together to help a brand launched their 819 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.320 business in the United States, their successful overseas, specifically in India, and 820 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:39.199 we were hired as a team as a collaboration for one year. We got 821 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:43.960 a full content this one actually is a full legal contract. Right. We 822 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:47.320 went all the way to it, but it's still a collaboration with us in 823 00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:52.880 building the brand and launching this brand. We all have specific responsibilities and we're 824 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.960 helping a company out of India launched their business in the United States. That's 825 00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.880 a big collaboration with a lot of documents. It's not a business, okay, 826 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.639 but it's a big collaboration and does have timelines on it. So that's 827 00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.920 another example of coming together, especially independence, like small independence, like me, 828 00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:13.519 solo proneuers, everybody in this collaboration. We're all solo proneuers. Yeah, 829 00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.519 but but you guys are coming together, you're putting your skill sets together 830 00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.880 and you're getting a big Pie and you get split that big pie. Yes, 831 00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:23.280 we're leveraging each other skill sets to that's the important thing in that one. 832 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:29.679 So that's another example. I also think like I made a recommendation to. 833 00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:34.840 I saw a post on Linkedin a couple of weeks ago about hiring and 834 00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:37.320 this one. This this guy was posting about his small business. He was 835 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:42.159 posting about hiring sales people and how difficult he was finding it to higher sales 836 00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:46.199 people. Well, another small business that I happen to know also commented about 837 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:51.920 how she's struggling with it as well, so I made a comment and I 838 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:57.199 said how great would it be to see the two of you come together to 839 00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:04.360 collaborate in strategic markets, to hire that person to support both of you? 840 00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.119 We'll see if they actually do it, but that's a collaboration, right. 841 00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.960 You hire were good. Two companies or three companies come together, because maybe 842 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.800 they all can't afford one particular hive dollar sales person, but the three of 843 00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:20.280 them or two of them could come together and afford it. Yeah, yeah, 844 00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.679 that's good idea. The collaboration. It's collaboration. Well, man, 845 00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.599 there's so much power in collaborations. said, I really appreciate our collaborations on 846 00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:32.719 Fridays. You can be back with me next week we'll be talking about when 847 00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:38.239 she said meadows. I'm glad we get more listeners than viewers. So what 848 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.679 you what? She died processed by hilly Thorpe. What's she's not, probably 849 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.039 or what she pro I even know what she dot pro I can't even one. 850 00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:50.840 She got pro forts. I said meadows is where you need to go, 851 00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.280 because it's going to the leaderboard on when she pro they are for somebody 852 00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:57.920 eyes. Say That side up, Brett, if you're listening, if you're 853 00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.760 listening, Britt you better be listening or we're out. You understand to take 854 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:04.840 my one she profile and leave it? Well, man, super, supermus 855 00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.880 fun. So we'll see back next week. We'll be talking about digital what 856 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.599 are we talking about? I can't remember. You gave me the title and 857 00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:14.079 we owe. I was like, what do you talk about? Yeah, 858 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:17.800 you were dissing on me last week, having a laborative disagreement viaus text whenever. 859 00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.719 What you were just being belligerent, is what was happening. But yeah, 860 00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:27.760 so next week show is about digital storytelling. Yes, and how to 861 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:32.440 use various digital medias to to tell a story that bring your ideal customer into 862 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.719 your world, or how to tell storytelling online. Which one of you guys 863 00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:42.679 like better? Wrest where's the new button? All right, Billy's wife, 864 00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:44.559 right in there. Hit to eat bud real quick, please. Done. 865 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.599 In there, hit the meat bud. Yeah, my three days will to 866 00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:50.679 my three year old come and destroy this whole desk, throw it all on 867 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.639 the floor. Actually, it's been fun. Buddy's happy Friday. Great hanging 868 00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:57.639 out with the USC next week. Absolutely appreciate you so much. said. 869 00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.360 All right, everyone, that is all for today over here. At creating 870 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.599 daily. Join Me Monday. Have a great weekend, by the way, 871 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.840 and then join me on Monday. I'm going to be joined by Ross brand 872 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:12.119 and he is a live streamer, a livestream consultant, and he just dropped 873 00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.280 a new book called a hundred live streaming in digital media predictions, and it's 874 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:20.719 volume two. and talking about collaborations, he features over, I think right 875 00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:24.840 that, a hundred and thirty top creators and industry insider sharing all like new 876 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:30.840 entries for forecasts, inside strategies, all that kind of stuff. So what 877 00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:35.519 a collaboration. Super, super cool, super excited to hear about that. 878 00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:39.679 I didn't make it into volume two. Maybe I'll make it into volume three. 879 00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:43.920 Maybe I have him on, warm him up a bit, old Ross, 880 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.199 and then maybe he'll back man this cool. Maybe I don't really have 881 00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:50.320 any predictions, okay, but anyway, if I did, maybe I'll work 882 00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.039 on them for volume three. But Anyhow, I'm excited to have Ross on. 883 00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.599 Join Me Monday, two PM Eastern time. Have a great weekend into 884 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:59.760 France, family, all that fun stuff, and remember, go hit the 885 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.000 real lord bunt, go hit your golive button, whatever that looks like for 886 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:07.400 you. Is a creator and and do what you do because people need your 887 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:09.440 message, they need your art, they need your voice, all that kind 888 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.440 of fun stuff. All right, we'll see you next week